Hope you're all up for 5 minutes of dry legality talk! Looking forward to seeing if Red Bull can also bring something interesting! Hope you all enjoy the video!
the legality talk is what is interesting to me, fun to see how engineers play around with the rules to find solutions that can give them what they are looking for while still complying with the rule set.
Just had another thought last night - the V shaped inlet probably also allows them to push the wall under the sidepod further out, this would likely allow them to shift the pressurisation from this region further out as well, which could help the front tyre wake management more. Just another potential reason they could have gone down this route.
A shame your videos don't get the view numbers they deserve when other channels get millions just for spouting hot takes. Been watching F1 for a while and the amount of knowledge and gems you drop are priceless.
The Race are a prime page for doing this. They do put out good content occasionally but they've been putting out analysis and assumptions of the cars based on renders which are pretty clearly just there to show off the livery and hide most of their secrets. They are very much turning into a quantity over quality page
@@mohammadzohorul8887 I'm fan of this technical insight. Also other technical insights on those cars. And I have no time to discuss this with my child....the only one I can trust not to be payed for telling BS. The last time (previous year) I've discussed some aero with him he also stated that these video's are great. Compliment to Kyle. Oh...He is a PHD in fluids....and was also developer of the aero side for one of the dutch solar challenge cars a decade ago...He knows about what he is talking.
I've been watching since 1996. I'm not an Engineer, but I have always loved the engineering side and loved learning how and why things work or why things are done the way they are. I can not emphasise enough, how much I appreciate your content. Genuinely, thanks for making them.
@@bassmunk If I was watching Kyle since 1996 it would be very concerning I think. Fortunately haha, yes, it is watching F1 since 1996, when my late grandma introduced me to it.
Finally after 1 year worth of fluiddynamics lectures at my university I am able to understand pretty much everything you’re talking about! So happy about it
Doing engineering at uni at the moment and it’s great to see application of all the fluid mechanic theory I’m learning and helping to understand it, glad to have found the channel
Just came across your videos and I must say that this is the most in-depth and detailed f1 engineering analysis I´ve seen on youtube. Cheers mate, am about to binge your vids.
Kyle, buy a lavalier Mic and/or the Rode wireless Go 2, this should reduce your ambient reverberation of your videos when you are on camera. That's a little annoying compared to the incredible quality of your content. Sound engineer here. Amazing videos like always.
Think the under cut more proncounced because they have moved the side impact structure, they were restricted by the sidepod last season. With the cost cap they couldnt move the impact structure to the sidepod design was limited by both the budget cap, and by the previous design.
I think it would have worked if they had access to the suspension systems pre 2022 that were banned or even potential active suspension The floor flexing was also an issue they would have needed to solve I think the concept was solid just the execution required was infeasible under the current budget cap/technical restrictions
Guessing they would had switched either way, from what I understand the zero-pods relied on vortices to control the wake, similarly to the old regs, but didnt have strong enough effect compared to the bulky sidepods. They def would had performed better though and had a more stable car if they had focused on suspension from the beginning like RB did.
There's still no way to control the wake from the front wheels without sidepods though (now that powerful bargeboards were banned)? Wouldn't that zeropod design always struggle to align the airflow to the rear end of the car at high yaw (i.e., low speed corners) or in crosswinds etc, or where they things that Mercedes were on the road to overcoming? 🙂 The zeropod car did look really cool scraping the ground in Zandvoort or Interlagos on the smooth medium speed tracks where it was fast! I can't remember if Mercedes ran huge rear wings for the entire 2022 season, or only at the races where they couldn't run the car as low as they wanted (most of them...).
the zero pod car worked very well whenever the car could be run low to the ground, it was terrible whenever ride height had to be raised. the increased minimum ride height, which Mercedes lobbied for, made their concept unfeasible.
Adding support for the engineering and legality talk. I dont even bother watching other car reviews. I started ine and the first half was a discussion about the livery... I don't care what color they painted the car this year.
I always think back to the photo of the red bull being lifted off the track and the flooring giving insights into the design. That seemed to be a key advantage that others are probably putting into their designs now.
If Ferrari, McLaren, Aston or even Red Bull complain about the top flap, is there another way to shape every flap of the front wing to create a vortex that diverts the front tire wake away from the car? Like if the wing started off at high AOA near the nose and then suddenly dropped (within legal curvature) and then gradually rose back up as it reached the endplates? Also would bump stops have cured porpoising? Would you be able to introduce anti-dive and anti-squat and platform stability by modifying the angles of the lower wishbones on both suspensions? Would introducing anti-dive or anti-squat anywhere increase the harshness of the ride? How do teams optimize the damper settings for fast rebound so that the tire follows every crevice in the road at high speed but also keeps the platform moving very gradually (so it's gentle on the driver's bottom and also keeps airflow relatively stable)?
Is there a way to shape the sidepods in such a way that you can both deflect front tire wake, create vorticity by the front of the floor that seals the whole floor, and creates vorticity that would seal the diffuser? Is there a way that Mercedes could have added elements to their crash structures during their zero-pod era to have accomplished wake management, floor and diffuser sealing?
I went straight to looking for your video after seeing that front wing and overall how much different this car is than last year! Glad to see an in depth look on this car, we'll see if it's fast...
The front wing change seems like a neutral element that sacrifices a small amount of front downforce for improved front airflow. Even if it was “revolutionary”, as a front wing change it could be replicated across the grid in a month. Its never going to win a championship, but might improve the Merc’s stability.
True, I think Merc isn’t worried about the speed, drivers complained about the stability and drag all of last season. I think the speed was there last season but the car was just too unpredictable think that’s what they focused on.
Thing with frontwings is always that they change the airflow on the whole car. Which is why they amount of work you need to put in during a season is so much more than a new rear wing.
@@cesarsilva8102 yea it had potential, hopefully they can run it full power with the revised concept although I think they might still have issues with cooling this year
@@claudeumuhire1625 I guess we have to wait and see, I think with the new front wing and the style of the inlet side pods they improved cooling a lot, they can definetly run at hihgher power now, im very confident this year now that allison made the car.
Would love to see you do these same tech exercises 6-7 races into the season This would show the changes and the real concepts. I love deep dive tech looks at F1.
That detached Rear Wing will definitely make it harder for cars to follow them as well. So, this year and next will definitely make overtaking a little bit harder, So... if there is an approval for the in-wash car concept, I will wait till then to see how innovative teams will become from an aero perspective
also just a little detail, the carbon fiber they used here looks a better quality and more aesthetically pleasing to watch than last year, this one has nice smooth pattern, last one looked cheap up-close
One of the engineer in brackley inform me that the new car is 18kg lighter than previous car.... 8.5kg savings particularly on the new engine.... can you confirm it pls?
Thanks for this quiet enlightening. What I would like to hear more about are: 1: the fairly bulky second element of the front wing right next to the three pointed star. It seems almost integrated into the nose cone. Maybe it can take ballast? Ballast put there could change weight balance quite considerably with a minimum weight!? 2: to me it seems like the rear suspension is rocker suspension and a double wishbone suspension fused together. Of course it is difficult for anyone to see under the skin of the vehicle so… Greetings from Denmark
Putting ballasts on something than can break off so easily feels weird. It's also hard to open the wing and adjust. But maybe you're thinking something to the likes of the Renault with the mass dampener, but you can't really fit conventional springs inside of an airfoil.
Another great analysis, I’d like to get your thoughts on the extra scoop Mercedes have put into the first element of the front wing that’s detached from the nose which is slightly different to the other teams.
Kyle - great analysis as usual. A question I’ve posed on several f1 channels is why are the front wings so ridiculously wide? If the FIA, F1 etc are so worried about outwash from the front wing why not make them MUCH narrower? Like to the centre line of the front tyres?
very interesting video as usual. would you consider doing a video in which you explain how these vortexes influence airflow around them? i can't quite get my head around them
It almost looks like they still want that zome what zero design but turned horizontal. Still nice to see that two teams that we know of didn't go for the more RB style sidepos inlet lip
I always wonder, when other teams see something like the Mercedes front wing, do they have the technology to roughly draw up a sketch and run a quick sim to get an overall idea if it could be of benefit
man I really really wish they would allow bespoke rims again (like the dimple merc rims). The current rims look like painted spare tires off a 2000's crown vic...
for some reason i believe mercedes have redesigned their inlets to use more air because they want to push the PU more they tried with zeropod car but were struggling with the temperature spain/hungary
It looks like the connection between the two elements at the very outboard tip of the rear wing is quite outwashed as well. I wonder if that's done to meet geometric legality or if they've done it on their own to weaken the vortex.
Awesome video. The rear pull rod looks very flat. Won't it help to clean up the rear airflow if they ran a geared hub design. That way they could run the drive shaft and lower wishbone much higher.
It would be helpful to get your insight on the state of CFD modeling for areodynamics. After 3 races theres a lot of discussion on how the W15 isnt performing as projected/modeled. And McLaren last year claimed they didnt understand how their midseason changes worked as well as they did. All of this leads me to believe that there are significant limitations in modeling. Which combined with wind tunnel & track testing limits has all teams except RBR guessing whether changes will actually work. Is that your experience?
Quick question from a commercial pilot. As you are an expert in aerodynamics (especially with regard to tiny details), do you look at commercial aircraft and see obvious shortcomings in their designs? Do you think these large planes got their designs right or is there a lot left on the table regarding lift and drag performance? Thanks
