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MDA to CGA mod on a TTL Monitor (Tandy TTL-5 Amber Monochrome) 

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I didn't have an Hercules but I love Amber Monitors so much! So I have modded/tweaked this Monochrome TTL MDA monitor to accept CGA frequencies. Do not reproduce at home and remember, it's all about having fun!

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Комментарии : 38   
@CyberhugTechnologies
@CyberhugTechnologies 3 года назад
Very nice video and very well explained! Thank you - keep it up please, thumbs up.
@fiallos1
@fiallos1 Год назад
It’s Jean-Claud Van Dam genetic twin! Nice!
@gallgreg
@gallgreg 4 года назад
Great video!! Amber was sooo cool back in the day!! Very easy on the eyes, especially when compared to the B&W security cam monitors or TV’s that preceded it! Awesome that you were able to breathe new life into this one!
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 4 года назад
Thank you Greg! Amber is still cool to me haha!
@rwittmeier1
@rwittmeier1 4 года назад
Another great video! Love seeing the amber raster scanlines. Had an old Amdek amber monitor with my Apple II... A very pleasing shade. Yes would definitely love to see how you address the geometry to get the image centered!!
@nostaljunkie
@nostaljunkie Год назад
Congratulations, it's so cool !
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 4 года назад
Clever stuff and a really professional video! Nice job. That's a sub from me.
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 4 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@Joshinken
@Joshinken Год назад
Philips actually made this exact same monitor, as in, completely identical but with a philips logo and with a composite input, as the bm7522. There is also the 7502 in green and the 7542 in white
@francoisdastardly4405
@francoisdastardly4405 3 года назад
Fantastic video !
@TechGuyBeau
@TechGuyBeau 2 года назад
Oh man beautiful. The exact monitor I grew up on…. Love it
@wojwoj06
@wojwoj06 2 года назад
Good "tinkering" skills! :)
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans Год назад
Dude, You Rock !
@natejones7844
@natejones7844 4 года назад
I tried a similar thing a while back with a mda monitor I have, but was using vga to the monitor and had the same black and amber colours only. getting the grayscale is very interesting, I may have to try that on mine later on
@cygenta_modernCRTgamer
@cygenta_modernCRTgamer 7 месяцев назад
super helpful vid, ty!
@compufood
@compufood 4 года назад
This is a very cool idea! I recently got an amber MDA monitor and discovered that it can handle CGA if I adjust the V-hold just right, but is in "black and white" instead of greyscale/amberscale like yours, and it isn't completely stable - sometimes when I launch a CGA game it will cause the picture to roll and I have to change the V-hold again. Do you know what I could do to help it lock-on better? Also, I'm curious what this switch at 2:36 is doing, what did you connect it to if I may ask?
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 4 года назад
I am guessing your monitor is built like mine, there is a logic gate (Exclusive OR type) that will turn any analog signal into a digital (full off or full on) signal. To get AmberScale, you will probably need to do like I did, bypass this gate, mix your RGB signals using a 1k per channel, and maybe amplify the video signal. There is no easy way to help the monitor latch on a different frequency tho, I think you will still need to adjust V-Hold manually. As for the switch I showed, it was to select between [Mixed RGB signals] or [Intensity] signal coming out of my graphic adapter, just a test but I wasn't happy with the results and went all the way with Analog conversion.
@veryslowpoke2025
@veryslowpoke2025 18 дней назад
Hey, I know this video has been up for four years, but I'm trying to figure out how to convert an amber monitor of my own to SVGA or possibly just an rca jack, and I am curious about some details. When you say it was turning the analog signal into a digital picture, were you referring to CGA? CGA is entirely digital, which actually makes it much more compatible, but then when you added grayscale, was that RGB from the CGA or the VGA? I couldn't understand how CGA would manage to produce a grayscale image when it is digital. What I also was wondering if you knew was what the voltage is to flip the intensity or video pin from a 0 to a 1, and how that behaves with an analog signal.
@engind.9125
@engind.9125 3 года назад
Jean Claude Van Damme???
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 3 года назад
I have an amber brother word processor display that appears to be TTL. gunna mod it now thanks!
@VW7472
@VW7472 3 года назад
I have a AMDEK Color 600 'Good Luck finding anything on it' It has a 13' crt and only a 9 pin D-SUB and a switch labeled A/B as well a mono audio input. I found your video while searching for a way to convert analog CGA to TTL CGA as I would love to use this monitor with my Arcade supergun and not just my Tandy 1000 or the Commodore 128. As i am not a electronics expert modding it would be a real challenge and the fact I can't find any schematics. That said is it possible to make a device to do all this external of the monitor? I am guessing not and probably not worth the cost.
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 3 года назад
Analog to TTL could be feasible in theory, so long that the H/V frequencies would be compatible, the other way around would not without bypassing some internals. I guess Analog to TTL CGA would only take a few components tho, my guess would be just some schmitt triggers and TTL Logic could suffice.
@michelelintenditore6234
@michelelintenditore6234 3 года назад
The shape is quite like the Pilips BM7522 that is an amber monitor mayde by Philips with composite and audio input. Have two of them, one is upcycled with a DTV receiver as black and white 12 inch TV, because has white phosphors. That should be the BM 7513. I think you could see on the PCB unused pads that are for the composite input. archive.org/details/PhilipsBM75xxServiceManual/page/n3/mode/2up Had to repair mine, because they both had a failure in the 12V regulator so I had to dig in the schematics.
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 3 года назад
Interesting, correct it looks pretty similar!
@easyerthanyouthink
@easyerthanyouthink 3 года назад
cant wait for horizontal position ?????
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 3 года назад
Oh boy, thanks for the reminder! Sorry, been caught in so many other projects! I will put a reply here when I get to it ^^ Easy way would be to shift the whole thing using the neck rings, but a better way would be, I am guessing, a tiny DC offset on the horizontal deviation circuit, will take some circuit deciphering and will have to experiment as I couldn't find any schematic.
@easyerthanyouthink
@easyerthanyouthink 3 года назад
I love amber. Its my favorite of all. I have not tried your methods yet. But i cant wait.....
@8088argentina
@8088argentina 3 года назад
make a tv to a mda monitor, i wanna see that
@ercan_akin
@ercan_akin 2 года назад
I want to make a ttl 640*480 pattern generator, can you help me?
@saimon1680
@saimon1680 3 года назад
I bought a VGA monochrome monitor, when i plug it to my laptop vga output i get a sord of triple image overlayed on the edge of each other, it seems like i can do some adjustment messing around with the Horizontal phase adjustment pot but it seems like it runs out of range, is this related with refresh frequencyes? Any idea to solve this problem? I’m guessing it has to do with refresh frequencyes since it changes whenever I choose a different frequency output... In the end I just want to plug it to a composite video signal with an RCA jack
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 3 года назад
I think I see what you are talking about, three stretched images on the screen. If that's the case, definitely a sync range (refresh rate) not supported. Did you check your monitor's specs?
@saimon1680
@saimon1680 3 года назад
Analog Thinker well it has a user manual wich talks about Vertical frequency of 50Hz to 90Hz and seems to be compatible with VGA, 8514A and VESA the signal input is at TTL level of 3.4V+\-1V any idea?🤷🏻‍♂️
@saimon1680
@saimon1680 3 года назад
Analog Thinker another important fact is that i can run an old laptop loaded with win XP, the BIOS setup displays just fine and the windows loading logo but whenever i get to the GUI it flickers around and won’t display the image... My guess is that the BIOS setup and loading screen runs at lower frequency or on it’s range and windows GUI doesn’t
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 3 года назад
@@saimon1680 That would also be my guess. The other thing to consider is the resolution itself. Make sure you stick to DOS resolutions, I don't anticipate those older monitors (especially the monochrome) to handle anything like 1024*768 or even 800*600...
@saimon1680
@saimon1680 3 года назад
Analog Thinker Thank you for your time! And by the way I really enjoyed your video! You’re clever
@ercan_akin
@ercan_akin 2 года назад
I want to make a ttl 640*480 pattern generator, can you help me?
@AnalogThinker
@AnalogThinker 2 года назад
Hey! I would highly recommend getting a nice Sencore (or Philips or whatever brand) pattern generator on eBay, who knows what else you could need it for! It's a safe investment. If you are looking into making a partner project or need to get a custom Pattern Generator, please send me an email (in the "About" tab)! I can think of multiple ways to design one.
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