ME MAEK ZALOT | CNSL 7 

I love how in game 1 it's not even scan's choice in how he wants to lose, it's how ruin wants to win.

Arty is so humble when he is right.

Discovered this channel today and seeing SC1 is still played makes me so happy! Is this the remastered one?

Two gate on troy makes me physically ill.

"If anyone thinks I'm wrong at all, let me know in the comments and I'll delete the RU-vid channel, ok?" I guess if I ever show up and the channel's randomly gone, I know what happened haha.

- The cannons be ready to fire capn'! - Are...

18:32 I can replay this moment forever. Second game is what justice looks like.

To the guy who figured out a counter but doesn't want the channel deleted: Thank you for your silence, you have my respect. Alternatively, theres just no counter.

a tale as old as time, the protoss wins with a broken cheese but can't keep up with a real game, fantastic play from scan

This might be your greatest title yet.

What a beautiful move from Scan, a real piece of art

Normally a Protoss supporter but rooting for Scan in this one. Go on ma boy!

Ruin vs Scan !! I havent watched the video yet but seems promising

Can't even come to the cast channel without insults now.

game 2 was so gooood, you hyped it so nerdly it was great :) ! love your enthusiasm for scan. You can really tell theyre both close in skill with how well they played. artosiscasts 5ever

the obvious counter for 2 gate is going into the editor and changing zealots cost to 150 :D

Artosis has very clearly chosen a side but I don't think he is wrong either.

15:03 RT making his own dono noises

Man, I would love to see you and scan hang out again to play some sc1. Those collab videos you did with him was hilarious.

I don't understand the fuss about 2-Gate Troy. If Terrans were smart, they would immediatly realize how easy is to deal with it: First you kill the assimilators with SCVs; I mean after dealing with so many gas steals, they should be pretty efficiet at it. Then, you rush Ghosts, they fit through. You go mass Scans, mass cloack, kill all observers and nuke the Cannons. Observers are small units, so Ghots with their concussive damage type are basically hard counters for Observers. They can also Lockdown Observers, in which case they cannot reveal Ghosts anymore. Plus, as a surprise move, you can nuke the two assimilators in the enemy's base. They won't see it coming with all the Observers in Lockdown/dead. No wonder stupid Terran has issues without these simple steps... On a serios note, absolutely bonkers series, love me a nice Ruin vs Scan on a sunny sunday.

Well, I'm glad that Artosis finally got closure on that Troy game. All of ASL the pros refused to take the free win, so it's nice for everyone (except Scan) to finally get to see what the hell he was on about.

13:04 I have never seen a vulture move like this. Smooth.

Artosis so happy that someone finally two gated on that map. And yes he is right.

Thank you for the game.

Can you build a bunker right below the Assimilator on Troy? Is that good?

Awesome cast Arty!!

hi artosis thanks so much for the cnsl casts love them so far, is there a good place to watch the recent asl games in english?

“There’s something very funny about pirates.” - Artosis

Seems like Terran has to hold the gap between the assimilators. If Protoss can run zealots through, then the marines have to kite away into the main, which gives the Protoss space to kill the assimilators. Is there a zealot-tight configuration with barracks or depot or bunker against the assimilators? If so, you're done. Just hide behind your wall shooting zealots. If that doesn't exist, then you could still: - Build a non-tight wall at the gap so that zealots can only come through one at a time. Then plug that hole with an SCV and a couple more SCVs to heal it. - Or build a bunker at the assimilators so that your marines can't be bullied away. (You'll still have to split off some marines to fight zealots that go for your mineral line, though.) - Or jam an excessive number of SCVs into the gap (5+) to clog up the zealots. My intuition is that if you stabilize the early part of the rush (first 1-3 zealots) and keep the gap clogged without losing marines, then your marines' focused DPS will quickly outscale the zealots in the choke.

Hey guys nice to meet you. I haven't played forever but in the beginning of the first game when the zealot attacked the assimilator couldn't scan build a bunker between the assimilators do both protect and block the path? I am talking about 4:55 minute mark exactly

20:30. two vollies from 4 goliaths kills a shuttle you silly goose.

On the bottom positions, is there a possibility to build a barracks on top of the, in this case, leftmost assimilator? Does the marine spawn between?

Gonna need a few rounds of chemo after that first game

lmao i love the spicy silly artosis in this vid

Hey Artosis, do you think a bunker would work by the assimilators? I don't play Terran but can you wall off between them? I'd try that and maybe build the factory in the main and float it out. Even get sneaky and float it to the side and proxy vultures while scvs repair the bunker. Vultures are the best unit in the game against zealots and probes. Why not? Thanks as always!

I'm no pro.. but in game 1 What would you be able to pull a CVS and get a bunker up into the natural? Then produce factory units out of the natural?

What about making the bunker near the assimilator? Wouldn't it defend the assimilators and block zealots from coming in?

Could Terran wall either in front of or behind the assimilators to prevent the zealots from getting in or killing the assimilators? (I don’t play so I don’t actually know).

Ok, first off... AMAZING GAMES AND CAST!!! But I wanted to mention something, might sound dumb but oh well. I think it's super cool the other games are in a "next video". Because when I saw how long that video was I was like.. damn that's a 3-0 right? So anyway, keeps the suspense alive! :D

Two barracks on the natural covering the assimilators. It pretty much what terran do all times anyway. That counters two proxy gate.

Ruin looks like Scan from a parallel universe where he picks Protoss and parts his hair the other way lol

"The pros are stupid." - Artosis

Damn what an amazing round of 8. And that’s not saying that the round of 16 wasn’t stellar as well. This is way more entertaining than ASL so far! 🔥

The duration of the video worried me, I wasn't prepared for it to be a 2 part thing and though Ruin was gonna clean my boy up with a bunch of zealot based rushes after that first game lol

I only watch brood war and don't play at all, so I have absolutely no idea if it's an option, but to try and hold the Troy 2 gate, could you rush to make a bunker blocking the assimilators and mass repair against the zealots with 2 tax?

I genuinely wonder if you scout it early could you not pull the boys to kill the pylon similar to sc2? Or do you just not start enough workers for this to be viable?

Amazing micro at 18:07 i cant believe he got out of that spot. Wp both players great games

I skimmed some of the comments-aside from variation of creating a wall and using a bunker to try and fend off the zealots, I'd be curious if there's some way to actually try and block the proxy gateways from going up in the first place. A bit of an out-of-the-box idea perhaps, but like, if you know 2gate proxy is sooooo strong, and you know it's probably going to be center, could 1-2 SCVs sent to the middle with good timing make it so that the probe can't put the gateways down without sending another probe or two to cover? And if they can't put the gateway down in any kind of timely fashion, even if the Terran's income is terrible, they *should* be able to at least avoid an immediate loss against the zealots, no? Obviously this would fail greatly if the probe decides to proxy off-center, and leave the Terran at a significant disadvantage from lost mining time if the Protoss just 2gates at home (which should still be pretty strong), but if your ONLY goal is to stop proxy 2gate, it's not like the entire center is buildable terrain, right? so I feel like it's theoretically possible to mess with the warping in of the buildings. and if you now force them to respect that option, then maybe Protoss decides to only do 2gate in base, and that extra X seconds helps the Terran defend normally with a 2rax, or something. Turning it from "unwinnable" to "maybe if you get lucky AND outplay them you have a 20% chance", haha. I dunno tho, not a Terran player or a StarCraft expert, but I think as a fan it can be fun to think about theoreticals even if they aren't/end up not actually practical-it might not be often, but I think a number of modern ideas probably started off as theoreticals, albeit backed by actual skill and a foundation of fundamental knowledge.

perhaps the only way to counter the proxy 2 gate is to build a bunker completely blocking the entrance between the assimilators b4 either of the assimilators are killed and then destroy the bunker as the game progresses?

I’m unfamiliar with this map unfortunately, but does a barracks fit between the edge of the neutral assimilator and the ramp? If so, maybe that could be the wall? I assume it mustn’t or it would have been done, but is putting up a supply depot THAT detrimental? Otherwise, why is this map even allowed if it’s SOOO one-sided?

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couldn't you bunker the assimilator area and then go vult?

10:30 oh, so it's a massively terran-favored map thanks

maybe 8 rax into additional one?

Would maybe building your simcity rax in front if the assimilator to partially building block off those work? Doubting, but...

Hey dude, I'm nowhere near pro level, but I tested, and you can do a pretty nice wall with a barracks and depot behind the troy assimilators. It's 1 scv or marine tight, looks to be about the only way to defend against the proxy gateway zealots. No real cost other than placing the depot up there, rax can lift after.

If Terran sacs extractors to nullify zealot pressure and tries to expand are they behind still?

As a terran that 2nd game was divine

in the first game , why if one of assimilators is destroyed and then factory unit can't get out? I'm newbie here. I don't get it why he focused on attacking a assimilator.

Arty not challenging your Troy take. Just curious what your take on ASL is on Troy, and why more Toss didn’t go 2 gate zealot?

That screenshot is tight

8:43 bunker near the assimilator?

personally I would've fended off that rush by building ghosts and locking down the zealots, idk why scan didn't think of that

I'm rooting for Ruin, but in that second game Scan dominated. Masterful play, great build. Thanks for the cast, Artosis! So excited for this round of 8!!

ROFL 🤣 when artosy said he gunna delete the youtube channel i died

0:00 twins?? down the same haircut, pose, style of glasses

looking forward to whatever that thumbnail is a reference to lmao

You can stop 2 gate proxi.The only way is to have 3-4 scvs right away before first zealot comes to wall off the exit with marines behind those scvs.Even with 2 rax he proved how its impossible to push back the zealots with marines alone.

way to counter 2 gate harder is to go for a cheese build yourself, notice when the pylon and gates are going up, and then prep sim city then this cheese demands more cheese also such a borked map shouldn't be in the pool IMO

What about wall off the two assimilators, maybe put one of the barracks there if marines spawn on the bottom side, or else a depot or bunker, and then destroy it later when you want to get out

Concerning Game 1 early game for the love of God make a bunker. He had time when the first 3 zealots were in his base and zealots had to leave the main base entirely due to marines in the barracks sim city to make a bunker near the assimilators. If he had done that and kept 2 scv's nearby to repair, terran keeps both assimilators at his entrance, doesnt lose marines, covers his production facilities and continues marine production and can pop marines out of bunker if zealots run by to cover mineral line at main base if they attack scv's mineral line. Attack held. Exciting gameplay, joy to watch high level starcraft like this, Great casting, awesome replay.

Artyyy❤❤❤

can terran build refineries on those geysers to open up the door again?

Can you build a moot refinery on that gas? The one affecting game no.1

2 gate om troy is downright nasty and maybe requires special circumstances to win

How about build a bunker before second barracks? stops the zealots from getting in and prevents them from blowing up assimilators

Was there no “veto”? Why couldn’t Scan veto the map in game one?

I would build a bunker by the assimilator so he can station marines inside without running back and forth. That way the zealots have a harder time sniping it bc they’re constantly getting shot at 🤷🏻

Zalot man go brrrrr

With how good pros are at sniping mines in predictable locations, I wonder if its good to just gamble by laying 2 mines close together on a weird rally spot to make the snipe difficult

Build the 2 rax tight to the assimilators, to what hopefully makes a wall that still lets your marines hit the zealots attacking the assimilators. You might try different combinations of buildings (2 rax, the depot, maybe a bunker but actually probably not necessary in this case unless the extra range was needed. Don't bother trying to get out until you have siege or go wraiths and tickle those zealots to death. If you wanted to get sneaky, run an scv into a second main first thing and hide it there, and expand into a second main with the same type of wall. Don't bother taking a natural until you have siege.

the picture of scan and ruin makes it look like they're twins lol

In the second game when hes talking about watching certain pros and that warching them wont necessarily teach you how to he hetter at lower levels reminda me of warching chess pros. the top level players know when they can get away from basic principles

How do you counter harder? You lift off and fly all your buildings to each corner of the map and tilt your opponent to win next game.

Any chance to counter zealot rush in game 1 with firebats?

Always 👍🏻

You counter harder by building a bunker behind the inner assimilator. Trust me, I completed the campaign.

Could you fit a bunker to the left of the top assimilator asap? It would be a waste if they not doing the 2gate but can cancel it or get rid later, Scan was pretty close if only the assim had more health. Broken map for sure though lol

Could Scan have made a bunker behind the assimilator in game 1?

I don't know SC1, but couldn't he have just blocked the extractor area with a bunker?

If terran killed assimilators, this move would have blocked 2 gateway push, right? And since his structures can fly, factories could be redeployed to expansion later, which solves logistical issues.

I don't think you're wrong about it being broken, but I think more scvs must be pulled and try to get a bunker up, but none the less if you have to all in a defensive manner vs such a simple build to execute it is too strong

How many zealots? -Yes

8:50 how about a bunker right below the 2 gaz at the choke of the main to protect the gas AND defend the zealot rush Additionnally, this 2 gas choke is very tight and building the 2 racks closer to that choke might have helped at micro management to block the zealots

At troy i think Terran are supposed to make their simcity at the assimilators.

It's very easy countered: power overwhelming!

You need to rush a bunker outside the assimilators. There is no other way.

Scan could build a bunker to counter 2 gate harder

I love it, just I would love it more if it was the whole match at once. Now I can't wait for tomorrow and I will kinda loose the hype :(

No idea who wins but let’s go scan!!!!