Meat eaters try to convince vegan that what he’s doing is POINTLESS. 

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Great on your part @ed.winters. The interviewees, not so much. Too much listening to respond. 0 listening to understand.

Define "VEGANISM".

@@TheVeganVicar 👶

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I became vegan earlier, not knowing Ed yet, but since I have seen his content I have learned so much more. He's pretty kind and good.

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It's a really good question. I'm sure at least some of them have seen their debates.

I too have wondered this

00:07 unattractive beta guy says "he cares more about his academic more than the life of an animal.." well the news is his academics doesn't matter to anyone, he wasn't born rich and he is not alpha too, so girl don't care neither! Probably he ends working hard all his life as an average Joe, then becomes redpill at old age! 😂 Thank God we have the Elite to keep these in check!

They probably don’t care that much, probably thinking that most people that are gonna watch this will be triggered carnists that will agree with every nonsensical argument they tried to put forward.

Right... the "coversation" (if you can call it that) is so difficult to follow because blue jumper at some points literally just says random words that are in no way related to the topic or make any logical sense. Pretty sure if you open up the top of his head you'll find a monkey with cymbals.

The moral inconsistency of people in their argument is actually a reflection of our laws in a carnist society. Remember, it's illegal to do cruel acts against dogs and cats in people's houses but if they are pigs, cows and chickens on a farm for money, their wellbeing doesn't matter. Even if you take a cow out of a factory farm and on green pastures, they still have to go to a slaughter house if you want to eat her.

It definitely caught me off guard, I think he said it in a rush to find an argument. It wasn't something he thought about clearly.. but yeah I've never heard that one before and it's clearly a pretty awful argument.

I wouldn't expect better behavior from a closed minded and spoiled rich daddy's boy from Dubai.

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@@arioca wow. not judgemental at all.

​@@VeganSemihCyprus33dis, dat, andy udder ting?

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Yes...Ed is aggravating to watch...he says the same crap over and over and over and over and over and over

@ Trolloftruth Yet you are still here following his videos and in the comment section…

@paulb8251 enjoy watching vegans fail

​@Trolloftruth you have 100+ comments on this channel. He can't be that aggravating to you if you keep coming back over and over and over 🤔

😂, cheers, you earned yourself a drink💚

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​@@VeganSemihCyprus33dis, dat, andy udder ting?

Why don’t you mention one?

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Are you the kind of person who is naive enough to believe there's some utopia in the future or have you ventured outside before?

@@aero203 There will never be a perfect world, but making choices and trying to guide society down routes that cause the least amount of suffering and allowing for more peace isn't a unworthy venture just because perfection can't be reached. Just because I know that there will likely never be a world that murder doesn't happen, doesn't mean I shouldn't act to prevent it.

Dude when us your next video coming

yeh right, the violence perpetuated by the crop protection industry to protect your precious vegan slop so you can virtue signal your faux moral superiority in the comment section

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and he admitted there are convenient vegan options lol

​@aaronmerkel5216 and he admitted he would rather have the animal option

So Lazy! They are everywhere else except for the present moment.

This is why they should live with vegans. I mean, it is kind of annoying. Where are the people? Anyway I don't know.

And/or ignorant, when choosing to not educate oneself is ignorant?

To call someone stupid because they don't agree with your viewpoint is I dare say...stupid.

@@stevenmeyer9674 You must think rapist and paedophiles aren't stupid. Odd outlook you have.

⁠@@_Bush_Bush_sadly people that eat flesh support those type of people because they aren’t a non human and deserves rights. I had two flesh eaters say they are heals at a higher standard than a chicken. It’s sad. Humans are too far gone.

Nah. They were both relatively polite and engaged in the convo. You can't expect them to have the best arguments because it's clearly not something they have given much thought. Of course they're gonna be a little defensive on the topic - it's an emotive issue. The average knuckle dragger on the street faced with this question would be like "bro bro f*** that, brooo"

ALMOST as ridiculous as Edward's definition of "veganism".

No not at all , grey shirt guy even mentioned that he wanted to be vegeterian by himself in the past so there wasnt much to convice there probaly just wanted to hear some facts for the little push to try vegan or vegeterian "diet" , however blue jumper guy's views are more realistic compared to the average human , i think that is what makes the convo interesting

@@absolutedomination5254 I get that, blue jumper being a stand in for most carnists is one way to look at it. It's just irritating to see that Ed had the possibility to help someone make a more compassionate change but was steamrolled over because of blue jumper. That was my takeaway from the video, at least

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@@TheVeganVicar what is ed's definition?

Factory farming is more sustainable

Explain how​@@omnivacuous162

Ending animal agriculture in favor of a plant-based food system would be a lot more sustainable than factory farmed animal agriculture. Better for the environment, better for biodiversity, would feed more people, and waste a lot fewer natural resources.

@@someguy2135 Factory farming is more sustainable than hunting. That is the only claim I am making.

Hunting is bad but on an ethical scale it's infinitely better than farming animals

Yes! Also me being vegan without activly trying to get other people to become vegan still changed their amount of meat and overall animal product consumption (Milk).

Ed normally seems to effortlessly keep his cool…in this video, it sounded like Ed really had to make an effort to not scream at these guys 😂

There were even so many new arguments there that I've never heard before. 'it happens, so it's ethical' huh? 😂

@@Dylitube yes. are you ok?

Well it's not pointless it's criminal actually, when the system brainwashes you to believe that you should eat grass and make everyone else do the same and ignore your own natural senses.

Thank you for sharing! Your path in life could've gone so bad but you changed and that is an amazing achievement. 💚

​@@piaogilvie8463 Thank you. Life has been a rough journey, but I'm doing what I can to make life better for everyone, human and non-human alike. "Rome wasn't built in a day."

@@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad For many years I worked with children and teenagers who had, like you, been dealt really bad cards in life. Many of them can't change. Many of them fight their way through life. I have so much respect for you

@arioca Ok, then how about lets have a real discussion. Maybe you can answer some of these REAL vegan critiques? Please explain to me how killing a million insects or more to fund your salad habit to be a vegan is better in any way (health, nature etc) than just eating unfertilized eggs from pet chickens that you love and would never harm? Thats what I do. Or could you possibly explain why Faux leather, which turns into microplastics in the sea, is better than biodegradable leather? The cow can die a natural death. You can still get leather. No toxic chemicals or even murder needed! You kill more animals driving to work than I do to eat a meat based diet. I kill 1 bison a year, feeds the entire family too, so its only 1/4 death for each of us. LOL. How many bugs hit your windshield this morning?

​@@Dylitube Raising animals for food and leather requires huge amounts of feed, pastureland, water, and fossil fuels. Animals on factory farms produce 130 times as much excrement as the entire human population, without the benefit of waste treatment plants. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has even acknowledged that livestock pollution is the greatest threat to our waterways. Although some leather makers deceptively tout their products as “eco-friendly,” turning skin into leather also requires massive amounts of energy and dangerous chemicals, including mineral salts, formaldehyde, coal-tar derivatives, and various oils, dyes, and finishes, some of them cyanide-based. Most leather produced in the U.S. is chrome-tanned, and all wastes containing chromium are considered hazardous by the EPA. Tannery waste contains large amounts of pollutants, such as salt, lime sludge, sulfides, and acids. The process of tanning stabilizes the collagen or protein fibers in skins so that they stop biodegrading-otherwise, the leather would rot right in your closet. People who work in and live near tanneries suffer, too. Many die of cancer possibly caused by exposure to toxic chemicals used to process and dye the leather. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the incidence of leukemia among residents in an area near one tannery in Kentucky was five times the U.S. average. Arsenic, a common tannery chemical, has long been associated with lung cancer in workers who are exposed to it on a regular basis. Studies of leather-tannery workers in Sweden and Italy found cancer risks “between 20% and 50% above [those] expected.” In addition, raising the animals whose skin eventually becomes leather requires vast quantities of water and wide tracts of pastureland, which must be cleared of trees. In fact, in the last half century, 70 percent of the Amazon rainforest has been cleared to make way for pastures or for growing feed crops. This mass deforestation causes habitat loss for millions of species, eliminates the Earth’s tree canopy, and drives climate change. Animal agriculture and its methane- and nitrous oxide-rich products, including leather, are leading contributors to climate change. Runoff from feedlots and dairy farms also creates a major source of water pollution. Leather has one of the greatest impacts on eutrophication of all materials used for fashion, a serious ecological problem in which runoff waste creates an overgrowth of plant life in water systems, which suffocates animals by depleting oxygen levels in the water and is the leading cause of hypoxic zones, also known as “dead zones.” The EPA has confirmed that factory farms account for 70 percent of the water pollution in the U.S. By some estimates, animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gases than all of the world’s transportation systems combined. Huge amounts of fossil fuels are consumed in livestock production as well, and cow-derived leather has almost three times the negative environmental impact as its synthetic counterparts, including polyurethane (PU) leather. The production of leather hurts animals, the environment, and the workers who manufacture it. The only ones who benefit are people who profit from the misery and suffering of others. Thankfully, there are plenty of sustainable vegan leather options to choose from today that mimic the properties of leather without the cruelty to animals or environmental devastation. And there is lab grown leather that does'nt involve the exploitation and use of animals in any way at all. Maybe do your research instead of trolling vegan channels with your uneducated nonsense.

​@@Dylitube More collateral deaths of wildlife are caused by growing and harvesting crops to feed 90 billion farm animals every day.🤷

​@@Dylitube No bugs on my windscreen as pesticides have killed so many of them. 🤷

​@@Dylitube Is this a serious question? You need only look at the 1st law of thermodynamics to understand why your "solution" kills thousands more insects than a full plant based diet lmao

Every person kills 100 animals in one year on average. 8000 during all life.

Why would I want to support a vegan business when I could support a regenerative farm with animals?

@@Dylitube if you like things that are regenerative then because vegan alternatives are regenerative

@@nerdwisdomyo9563 huh? "vegan" farming by definition is not regenerative because it requires chemical fertilizers and kills the soil. Think about it. If a vegan farm had even just 50 chickens per acre, and was a small farm at only 100 acres, then thats 5000 chickens. Which is 100000 dozen eggs/year. Why would any sane farmer or person let 1.2 million eggs a year go to waste to be a vegan? Let all the starving children die because of your vegan religion and just let all those eggs go to waste? No way. They just skip the chicken part and use fertilizer. Its stupid.

​@@DylitubeBecause regenerative farming is not anywhere near as effective as its proponents suggest. What would be significantly more effective, would be the reduction of overall agricultural land use and the rewilding of that agricultural land. Wild spaces, particularly forests, are significantly larger carbon sinks than some grass with some cows on it

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I agree. It's a very abstract, hazy, non-specific idea of what happens in slaughterhouses. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Yeah, was thinking about that too

Seen it don't care it's food

@@rondarkman.i agree, meat is healthy and good, it also tastes amazing, maybe we should make sharks go on a plant based diet to save the fish

Exactly! Sharks cannot eat plants. I was vegan but your argument has convinced me to switch.

Not only a new video, a new DISCUSSION video

Let babe sleep. The video will still be there. Sleep eludes us sometimes. We're a sleep deprived species.

Very sweet💚

@@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dadwake babe up, she's lazy and needs to get a job

Your comment is as tired and hackneyed as the « I’m a simple man…» comment.

Beautiful comment

this is probably the only time i can agree with this gendered and male centric rhetoric lol. everyone should work towards to create change in our world, but i still agree with ur point.

its not just the responsibility of only men but yeah

@@shibainu1428 I think this kind of rhetoric works better if you specifically target it towards men. Because the "alpha male" stuff will just repel if you also talk about women for them

Exactly this!

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​@@VeganSemihCyprus33dis, dat, andy udder ting?

Many such cases

That is a great argument to use because vegans have no counterargument and simply deflect.

To me it seemed like he was somehow partly arguing against having to become a vegan activist.

@@Dylitube Funny how the plant rights activists only pipe up when their flesh eating is challenged. Hmm. Weird . . . but predictable.

@@Dylitubewhat do you think farmed animals eat, genius?

​@@Dylitube The vast majority of chickens in the world are factory farmed. They don't have a choice of what to eat.🤷

A PhD and 72 hour days

Beautiful Comment!

Don't deflect. Just because you don't have a valid counterargument doesn't mean you have to make it personal.

Crazy good take

So vegans look like plants now? Lol

Yeah we're called humans.

@@gabrielascensotomas that's a different kind of eating.

@@rangv733 eventually we all will.

but its not. you do have to invest time, you have to decline food, you have to tell family and freiend who might react badly ... is it that easy? idk

Its definitely not easy. I try to eat organic non sprayed and its really difficult to get my hands on quality organic produce even here in europe. And its expensive. Every producer should be focusing on organic growing. pesticides are killing people

It isn't easy at all. Your privilege is showing

If it was that easy to eat a plant based died why are u eating fake looking meat products whitch are filled with more awful stuff like fat sugar and its loads more expensive its bland & tasteless than a meat diet

​@@Yorker1998what makes it so hard for you?

your local municipality (any govt body) isn't handling waste collection properly. and it has come to a situation where people are dumping their garbage in certain public places causing a lot of issues. the sight of these sites piled with garbage bags has become common. would you join others and dispose the garbage from your house too there even when there are alternative better options available and just because just me not choosing to not do it wont change the issue? you know very well how much problem its causing to everyone. so what do you think would you do in such a situation. might be a good point to ask.

Unfortunately that happens even in voting. Like alot of people say they prefer RFK Jr. over the other candidates, he still gets less support because most ppl don’t believe he has a chance of winning

Meat eaters for Kamala!

​@@Theedeadman If people choose not to support candidates they believe in because they think they won't win, it undermines the very principles of standing by what you think is right. If everyone thought this way, we wouldn't see any progress or representation for alternative views. Believing in something and taking a stand for it is important, regardless of the immediate outcome.

The brian runs on chickens

Studies show that 84% quit veganism.

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 not true

@@SlipperyManBean It's true. Can you dig it?

How is he supposed to study if he's hungry?

😂😂😂😂simp

Heard the same thing from my dad...I'm still omnivore 9 yrs later

One day is not a day of the week. Pick a day and make the transition! You can practice a handful of recipes before going full vegan. And when you decide on the day, which can easily be within weeks from now, you will already have the knowledge and skills to do it. The single biggest regret of every vegan is they didn't start sooner when they all knew they easily could have.

Yup I do not care animals are food its all good

@@rondarkman. i disagree obviously but this is the rationale for about 95% of everyone

Don't need to argue animals are food

​@@Dylitube Veganism is NOT a diet. We've no need to consume animal products to live healthily. Plus it's better for biodiversity and the climate too.🤷

​@@Dylitube Vegetarians support animal abuse in the dairy and egg industries.😏

@@chrissiehorsley304 well thats maybe true. You can live MORE healthily by eating eggs and salmon roe and ghee. to be fair, i agree its not a diet. its a weird religion. also, the health problem is less the lack of animal foods and the increase in chemicals, fertilizers, plastics and dead soil. that being said, salmon roe is infinitely better for you than flax seeds. and why can't you eat an unfertilized egg or fermented milk, nothing is being harmed, tortured or killed? You are killing insects to grow the veggies, and you are killing other plants (weeds). Its not even morally superior. So at the end of the day you kill more stuff and you are less healthy. I don't see the point of it. Could you enlighten me? Plus, if you are a fan of spinach or kale, you really should add a little kefir to "cream" it. If you dont, then you are essentially poisoning yourself with oxalates. All you have to do is add a little bit of dairy and boom its healthy for you. Since I know you won't do that, PLEASE at least add some mustard seeds and lemon to it and never eat them raw.

​@@Dylitube If you are being genuine when you say "could you enlighten me", I would suggest watching videos of dairy cows and the egg industry. You may not have seen this footage before based on the statement "nothing is being harmed, tortured, or killed". Male chicks are useless in the egg industry and are thus macerated and minced up alive within minutes of being born. Dairy cows have their calves taken away from them seconds after giving birth and they are forcably impregnated by us humans year after year in order for us to steal their milk (not to mention their premature death when they are sent to slaughter because they no longer produce enough milk to be profitable). You also mention that insects and plants are still being killed regardless, which is true, but when you think about the fact that most of the crops we produce are used specifically to feed animals being bred into existence by us humans, by arguing that we should reduce the amount of plants we kill, you are actually advocating for plant-based nutrition and veganism anyway (since more plants are killed for the purpose of animal feed). Again, if you are being genuine, I recommend watching Ed's TedX Talk called Every Argument Against Veganism.

I was skeptical, but I'm glad I checked it out! Very beautiful song.

Where can we hear your song?

@piaogilvie8463 I clicked on their profile pic and went to their profile and then found the song under their videos.

@@JoshuaMakar Thank you, Joshua!

It's awsome to eat veal to cheers❤❤😂

While I agree with your sentiment, I'm sorry but China are absolutely NOT very vegetarian in the diets. It's a big country so some places will be, but generally the Chinese are VERRRRY meat/animal-centric in their diets.

China? I don't think so

@@FromTheFens219 buddhism is popular in china so there has been cultural vegetarianism for thousands of years, rice and soy are staples, and traditional rural diets have little meat due to cost

Well said.

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@rondarkman. Does that emoji indicate you find slavery something to be mocked? I mean, we can get into it if you care to have an intelligent, grown ass conversation. Or you can continue to look like a damn fool since that seems to be all. You. Do.

​@rondarkman. Do you find some shit funny about slavery? Elaborate it for me because I damn sure want to know.

@@Angela_Clark Slaves tho , they are not slaves they are animals bred for consumption

It certainly is a diet.

Exactly! It's so annoying to look at a person who has so much influence not convey a vegan message... People hetalk to have NO idea what Veganism means after leaving the convention.

​@@unlimitedhangout5Certainly not. But Ed convey it like it is, which is frustrating and disrespectful to the movement and its objective.

@@unlimitedhangout5 did you get that idea from watching Ed's MISINFORMED videos?

Winters has never accepted the concept of veganism. He only defends Peter Singer's utilitarianism.

Me on every level. One may not want to hear it, but they damn sure come to terms with it when I speak the truth. I come direct, and at times, it may be a little aggressive, but that's just my demeanor. Folks need to hear the truth and resonate with it, point blank.

Never voluntarily giving up "meat", as my physiological responses to 9mo of almost entirely WFPB were poor. Nutrition trumps ideology.

@@Angela_Clark wow. I think it's so good that you are direct and tell the truth. It's easy for people to subject animals to misery, pain, exploitation, cruelty, and abuse for the sake of their taste pleasure. And those people do it with anonymity. Human decency means practicing empathy and compassion, especially for the unseen victims of all that horror. The mutilated corpses that people consume were sentient living creatures just a few days earlier. I admire what you are doing. Thank you!!

Groovy fact

Thats actually not exactly true. I think it was 17/1

For every £78 I pay my local supplier, I get back only 1kg of fillet steak..

Pointless comment. It's all over for the vegan cult.

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 you mean the Bad cult against unneccecary violence Explotation and Killing. Or do you mean the cult for unneccecary violence Killing and Explotation?