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Today's question: “What’s the difference between mechanical and electronic shutter on a mirrorless camera? Is mechanical better for shooting sports due to rolling shutter?”
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@simonbrown6903
@simonbrown6903 4 года назад
That is by far the BEST explanation I've heard. I knew about the banding but didn't completely understand why as I believed it was more about the flicking of the light source vs the shutterspeed, and I never knew about the distorting of images. Thank you for such an insightful and useful piece! 😊
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
You're welcome!
@randyfox5317
@randyfox5317 4 года назад
Completely, THE most comprehensive explanation (that I could actually follow!) on the 2 shutter types. Thanks, David.
@Bob-Horse
@Bob-Horse 4 года назад
Thank you David. Perfect timing, I was only trying to get my head around these matters the other day. Please take care my friend and keep well. 👍🇬🇧
@Chbucha
@Chbucha 3 года назад
David I can’t express how much I love your videos! You have such a great way of portraying your thoughts across and have a perfect balance of technical speaking and layman’s terms. Thanks for your content!!
@behrooz8393
@behrooz8393 Год назад
You don't know how much I've searched to finally get to this amazing video, thanks.
@MikesVideos1971
@MikesVideos1971 4 года назад
Fantastic explanation. Thank you for this video.
@johnnydee7480
@johnnydee7480 4 года назад
I have been wondering about the difference for awhile now. Thank you
@GlenReed
@GlenReed 4 года назад
Thanks David, informative as always!
@Orions_Journey
@Orions_Journey 4 года назад
Wow, that is an artistic image. I like it
@paulevideo
@paulevideo 4 года назад
I’m a long-time DSLR shooter and I never knew all that about electronic shutters! Lol I knew about banding and pulsating light but not about how light scanned off sensor. Thanks!
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 4 года назад
Great explanation David.
@rajagopalanramaswamy1212
@rajagopalanramaswamy1212 2 года назад
Excellently explained with examples. Lovely work. Thank you.
@kamv7261
@kamv7261 4 года назад
Great explanation. Thanks for clearing that up.
@okay1904
@okay1904 3 года назад
A brilliant explanation. Now I understand this issue 100%, Thanks
@JothyJohn
@JothyJohn 2 года назад
Fantastic detailed explanation. Thank You David..
@reboot7507
@reboot7507 2 года назад
To witness this electronic shutter issue take your smartphone and use the pro mode in camera. Use the fastest shutter speed and take a pic of your fan in highest speed.
@martinmcglone8456
@martinmcglone8456 4 года назад
thanks, great explanation
@matrishva
@matrishva Год назад
This is amazing explanation. Thank you very much
@rey_pracoustycmusic
@rey_pracoustycmusic 3 года назад
Iam looking for this Topic ,and found your Channel ,Thanks very Much Sir
@dragonink7302
@dragonink7302 Год назад
Thank you for such a great explanation of the difference between the two.
@cosmoBlue8
@cosmoBlue8 Год назад
Amazing video! I recently bought the Fujifilm XT-4 and didn't know which shutter to use for dog photography (still learning the technical side of the camera/photography in general). Will definitely be using the mechanical one from now on! Thank you so much for explaining!
@tedk2814
@tedk2814 4 года назад
great explanation thanks
@KevinPhillipssb
@KevinPhillipssb 4 года назад
Thanks for the explanation, now I know better!
@ruudvoest1038
@ruudvoest1038 Год назад
best explanation I could find about rolling shutter, thanks
@obedakihary4984
@obedakihary4984 2 года назад
Great explanation! thank you very much🙏🏽👊🏽
@ozuidema
@ozuidema 4 года назад
Great explanation, thanks so much! Those drone photos shot with e-shutter were really bizarre!
@blackriderz911
@blackriderz911 3 года назад
Thank you very much, very nice explanation
@MMB.__
@MMB.__ Год назад
Thanks. This is a wonderful explanation.
@Naesman1167
@Naesman1167 2 года назад
Great explanation!!! Thanks
@othomophoto8433
@othomophoto8433 Год назад
Thanks for the knowledge.
@abitofeverything1985
@abitofeverything1985 Год назад
excellent explanation, thank you!
@billwendry
@billwendry 4 года назад
Neighbor... that was a great explanation! Thanks.
@androidgameplays4every13
@androidgameplays4every13 2 года назад
Excellently explained, than you.
@Joel4JC
@Joel4JC 4 года назад
Awesome, thanks David for the clear and thorough explanation with example photos.
@sparkysteele
@sparkysteele Год назад
The Canon 90d has electronic shutter in live view so thanks for this video i am just learning about it
@RobertMossack
@RobertMossack 4 года назад
Awesome. The next time I have the opportunity to photograph something with spinning blades, I'm going to try to recreate this in an artistic way.
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
It sure is funky, but hard to control.
@FourKnown
@FourKnown 3 года назад
Thanks-great video! Would you advise using electronic shutter for time lapse photography to save wear and tear on the mechanical shutter? Would it work OK for fast moving traffic? Thanks!
@affinitystablepeanuts
@affinitystablepeanuts 2 года назад
Cameras with global shutter do exist. Phantom high speed cameras that do most of the super slow motion videos are global shutter cameras.
@osek64
@osek64 4 года назад
Great way to explain. It bring one question to my mind...is there(or what is ) difference between mechanical and electrical shutter while using flashes ? Both inside in studio or outside with small flash on camera.
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
Most cameras so not allow flash use at all with the electronic shutter. The only ones I can think of have a leaf shutter in the lens, so there is still a mechanism used to block the light on the sensor.
@wingincamera
@wingincamera 4 года назад
With my Pentax KP I have a choice of the electronic or mechanical shutter. Generally, when shooting landscape or anything without anything moving in the scene I use the electronic shutter. Anything else I use the mechanical shutter.
@pvprashant9797
@pvprashant9797 4 года назад
That was a good question ...
@pvprashant9797
@pvprashant9797 4 года назад
And we'll explained 👍
@RizaMarhaban
@RizaMarhaban Год назад
Okay, time to invest Sony A1 for me to prevent rolling shutter for electronic shutter. Nice explanation.
@gladysklip6984
@gladysklip6984 3 года назад
Hi David, love your videos. I have a question about the 1dxMIII, I was wondering what's the advantage (or rather IF there is an advantage) of using the Electronic First Curtain over Electronic or Mechanical shutter in Live View mode?
@rizalmaulanaainulyaqin7534
@rizalmaulanaainulyaqin7534 4 месяца назад
I do wedding photography, and usually I took the details close up picture, since my partner doing all wider pictures. I only use mechanical shutter when indoors only because of the flicker from the lights inside the hall, or I can still use electrical shutter by adjusting the shutter speed to certail speed that flickering gone away. The reasons I do electrical shutter is because less tear and wear to the shutter, because repairing it can empty my savings once, it happened like 3 times when I still use my DSLR back in the day. Fortunately, banding, rolling shutter and flickering is not my big issue for my job and since wedding these day are often semi and or full outdoor that keep me using electrical shutter most of the time.
@michaelharding7587
@michaelharding7587 4 года назад
For anyone who is interested. The photo receptors hold a charge, and as they are exposed to light that charge continues to change. With a mechanical shutter the light is blocked while the values are read; so the value of each receptor is unchanged until the entire image is recorded. For details from someone who knows far more about engineering than I do: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/376797/why-is-there-no-rolling-shutter-when-using-a-mechanical-shutter
@gastonkessler9116
@gastonkessler9116 3 года назад
now THIS is the answer I was looking for!
@stevosteve
@stevosteve 2 года назад
First I have to say BRILLIANT EXPLANATION. Soooooo my new question is 'when could rolling-shutter be used as an advantage to create intentional effects'. I had been playing about with fast moving horizontal vs vertical images and the difference is amazing due to the standard rolling-shutter travelling in a vertical plane when holding a camera in normal orientation. This led to trying fast moving images in a mix of vertical and horizontal and this caused bending just like the common aero prop as per your drone. Anyway I left the experiments for a while then just recently I caught the 2022 BRIT Awards during the Liam Gallagher set . . . . . .and WOWEEE ! It all suddenly became obvious. The lighting set included ultra-fast strobing projections and lasers which interacted with the rolling-shutter of the television cameras, and because the projector and laser beams were movong in all planes and with varying degrees of beams angle it caused the beams of light to become RIBBONS OF LIGHT dancing in mid space. I managed to find some regular footage on RU-vid taken by a person who attended the actual event using a conventional mobile camera from pretty much the same viewpoint, so I ran the footgae side by side, i.e. that taken AT THE EVENT compared to THAT TELEVISED. What a difference to the effect seen by the television viewers. If I was at the event and then watched the recorded footage when I got home I would swear I was at a different event. Superb example of rolling-shutter used for intentional effect.
@loft4me
@loft4me 4 года назад
David, what about in terms of wear on the camera, when doing a prolonged time lapse? My sense is of course, that an electronic shuttered time lapse without the camera parts moving, will have less wear mechanically on the camera.
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
Yes - less moving parts = less wear and tear. But there are other things that wear on the camera as well. Generally, the "pro" bodies (more expensive!) are rated to last longer, whether mirrorless or DSLR, electronic or mechanical.
@loft4me
@loft4me 4 года назад
@@DavidBergmanPhoto Interesting, thank you.
@matias2500
@matias2500 3 года назад
David, have you had issues with flash photography using the electronic shutter? I’ve encountered problems when using electronic shutter and flash.
@Todd10260
@Todd10260 4 года назад
Just pre-ordered the R6 from Adorama so I will be brand new to the mirrorless game! When using off camera flash, should you stay with mechanical shutter always?
@hughbyrne5633
@hughbyrne5633 4 года назад
Thanks for the info. David. I noticed my Z6 would not go above 1/2000 shutter speed in bright sunlit conditions - electronic shutter was turned on. Switching to mechanical let me go to the max shutter speed. The camera has an auto switch between the two modes. Do you recommend using that for camera that have the auto option?
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
Hugh Byrne I still prefer to choose the one that’s most appropriate for any given situation. I’ll use mechanical shutter almost all the time except when I want silent mode.
@jacquelinemartin9793
@jacquelinemartin9793 4 года назад
Is there a way I can ask you a question regarding Bridge Cameras? Thank you
@arturtalvik7875
@arturtalvik7875 8 месяцев назад
Great video! For information I have a 2013 Blackmagic Production Camera 4k that has a global shutter and no rolling effect, so the technology has existed for a while actually.
@azesudiro
@azesudiro 2 года назад
How do I switch to Mechanical Shutter on Fujifilm X-T2 on video mode? I couldn't select that option in the menu for some reason
@ledepart.design
@ledepart.design Год назад
Stacked sensors are available and E-shutter is wonderful with this technology. This video isn’t consistent enough with newer technologies.
@jarrellelee
@jarrellelee 2 года назад
Does any of this apply to GfX 100s? I want to know which shutter is best for shooting
@arun1991siddharth
@arun1991siddharth 8 месяцев назад
Now Sony A9iii is the first Global Shutter camera
@VROyun
@VROyun Год назад
One video that i stopped myself when i am about to speed up the video.. gj
@abhishekshah3333
@abhishekshah3333 2 года назад
Which camera have best sensor processor when it comes to mirrorless technology?
@stevevalvona9401
@stevevalvona9401 4 года назад
Can you talk me through basic stating point exposure settings using a DLSR with uncoupled bellows using manual mode on the camera for extreme macro close-ups?
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
Please submit that to www.AskDavidBergman.com and I'll do my best to answer it for you!
@rellaxum
@rellaxum Год назад
Very good explanation 👍✅...well that leads me to a freaking question ...electronic shutter is reducing the ( life expectancy) use duration of the sensor ...does it reduce de resistance to the light also ?🤔...light is causing burning...🤔
@joedcruz6264
@joedcruz6264 Год назад
I'm still confused. At higher shutterspeeds mechanical shutter too have the same effect on sensor since a small slit of horizontal opening causes the exposure. Will it cause roling shutter effect? 🤔
@mhk5272
@mhk5272 Год назад
Great video Now what I don't understand is that the data has to be read from the sensor anyways for both shutters. Why is it done in a different way for electronic shutter
@zubamans
@zubamans Год назад
Can you please explain what causes rolling shutter is and how to reduce it?
@andreaspahan9578
@andreaspahan9578 3 года назад
Hi David, quick question...would you recommend shooting: R6 with a Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary Lens for Canon EF ($900) with a Canon Adapter Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R ($99) or spending a LOT more money and getting the new Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1L IS USM Lens ($2700)? I only shoot outside and use natural light (mostly beach) Thanks for helping out!
@nickblyth166
@nickblyth166 3 года назад
Definitely the sigma Longer reach and slightly faster aperture I own a 150-600
@ondrejkratochvil4589
@ondrejkratochvil4589 4 года назад
How about the electronic front curtain? How is it vulnerable to rolling shutter or banding?
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
I wanted to get into it, but the video was getting too long. Electronic front curtain has no rolling or banding, and also no "shutter shock" issues. But it's also not silent so only good for certain situations (like long exposures).
@ericgrayphoto
@ericgrayphoto 3 года назад
David Bergman I thought EFCS was still prone to showing banding.
@ericgrayphoto
@ericgrayphoto 3 года назад
Either at high shutter speeds or using strobes?
@InWhoseOpinion
@InWhoseOpinion 9 месяцев назад
The sensor is scanned one line at a time, top to bottom in electronic shutter mode. How is the sensor scanned in mechanical shutter mode?
@DUCzillaMonster
@DUCzillaMonster 3 года назад
so, in short, 1/32000 is for every pixel line, and the sensor works different when switching from ms to es, right?!
@eelcj1
@eelcj1 Год назад
A mechanical curtain and an electronic (rolling) shutter will both produce low frequency bias. A global shutter or a leave shutter won’t. Global shutter are available, for example, in high speed cameras.
@nikyabodigital
@nikyabodigital 3 года назад
When to use Electronic Shutter and Mechanical shutter? What about in video? How does shutter work there.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 15 дней назад
What about 1st curtain electronic shutters?
@jdib1080
@jdib1080 3 года назад
But dslr cameras, with mechanical shutter, Still can have rolling shutter effect since they have CMOS sensor right?
@nickblyth166
@nickblyth166 3 года назад
DSLRs don’t get rolling shutter The scan speed of a DSLR is much faster than a mirrorless in electronic shutter
@jiajianhou426
@jiajianhou426 3 года назад
So if I shoot stationary subjects, does it mean electronic shutter is perfect?
@gurribuy
@gurribuy 4 года назад
7:52 That drone has EyeLashes.
@thanghoa95
@thanghoa95 3 года назад
Pls confirm me if i can shoot in HSS with electronic shutter Thanks. P/s waiting for your answer bfos buying Fuji xa3
@fostervf16
@fostervf16 3 года назад
The answer is no. HSS is a function of the mechanical shutter synced to a flash. Lots of videos on RU-vid explaining this. And from what I know you cannot even use a flash with an electronic shutter. The flash cannot sync to the way the sensor is read.
@QUINPANO
@QUINPANO 3 года назад
No sorry
@warrenlauzon5315
@warrenlauzon5315 3 года назад
Just a note that many AC powered LED lights will pulse. DC powered (including those with built in AC charged batteries) do not.
@Vlaakster
@Vlaakster 4 года назад
This is so confusing. I don't see how the data being pulled off the sensor line by line is any different than the mechanical shutter's light slit traveling down the sensor over during the exposure. At any given moment, the shutter's exposure slit is open over a different portion of the sensor, and to me, that approximates the electronic shutter reading line by line. I don't get why the mechanical shutter doesn't have the same effect for fast shutter speeds where the shutter produces a slit rather than being fully open.
@randytesch7664
@randytesch7664 2 года назад
Marshall, the difference is that the mechanical shutter moves much, much faster across the sensor than can be read & saved line-by-line by the electronic shutter.
@moshima1747
@moshima1747 2 года назад
I believe you're right but the effect is less noticeable with mechanical. Rolling shutter is always there with a slit exposure method, even with film, but on todays cameras, the electronic shutter slit (moving row of active pixels) is much slower. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter
@elephantgrass631
@elephantgrass631 2 года назад
Great explanation, but the video would be better and shorter if there were graphics or animations to further explain it.
@nicholastoo858
@nicholastoo858 3 года назад
Global shutter with the Sony F55. Sony F65 has mechanical shutter. I also hear there's older Balackmagic with global shutter.
@imagesbyjk
@imagesbyjk 4 года назад
So would they need to have a global electronic shutter to allow flash sync at all shutter speeds?
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
Honestly not sure if/how flash would work with a global shutter since it's only theory for now. You cannot use flash at all with most electronic shutters, unless the camera has a leaf shutter in the lens.
@imagesbyjk
@imagesbyjk 4 года назад
David Bergman I always looked forward to electronic shutters thinking they would act like 21st century leaf shutters. To me that is the one major feature I’d want - to not be limited by a sync speed.
@imagesbyjk
@imagesbyjk 4 года назад
David Bergman I would think it would function like a leaf shutter since you’d be exposing the sensor all at once. Thus you could virtually sync at any speed.
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
@@imagesbyjk Yes, that certainly makes sense. Can't wait! :)
@rldsg
@rldsg 7 месяцев назад
a9lll has joined the chat. informative, thanks,
@markgarcia137
@markgarcia137 4 года назад
Silent shooting count shutter count?
@fostervf16
@fostervf16 3 года назад
No. You're not using the shutter.
@reboot7507
@reboot7507 2 года назад
Drone looks like something from skynet.
@matrixate
@matrixate 10 месяцев назад
Also, at higher shutter speeds, you lose bokeh with the electronic shutter.
@tommytexter4054
@tommytexter4054 3 года назад
Canon new flagship mirrorless R1 is gonna have global shutter
@fegik5922
@fegik5922 11 месяцев назад
but obviously you're electronic shutter speed is too high, can slow it down to get organic motion
@johnmckay428
@johnmckay428 4 года назад
?? im more confused...
@DavidBergmanPhoto
@DavidBergmanPhoto 4 года назад
John McKay ask away!
@mhk5272
@mhk5272 Год назад
Mechanical shutters should be obsolete by now
@derTommy
@derTommy 3 года назад
This explaination doesn't make any sense to me. First of all a mechanical shutter moves from the top to the bottom so why shoult there be no rolling shutter compared to a electronic shutter? With your explaination with pixels are turned on and off it shuld be the opposite. Secondly you say that images with electronic shutter look how they look because the pixels are read line by line. But at the moment the pixels are read the picture is already taken so it shouldnt matter at all when the pixels are read.
@RakeshSingh-zo3zw
@RakeshSingh-zo3zw Год назад
An animation video with this explanation would have been so much better!!
@vitall7871
@vitall7871 2 года назад
Too much talking
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