Mega Man X Legacy Collection 1 + 2 PS4 Review 

You’re objectively wrong though - the aspect ratio should _NOT_ be 8:7, but 4:3. CRT's didn’t really have a native resolution like modern displays do. This means that the image was stretched or squeezed to 4:3 regardless of resolution, more often than not resulting in non-square pixels. The SNES used 256x224 with a pixel ratio of 7:6, i.e. pixels wider than they are tall. On the other hand there were stuff like Capcom’s CPS-1, -2 and -3 arcade boards which used 384x224 with a pixel ratio of 7:9, i.e. pixels taller than they are wide. Every single game on either of these platforms (with aforementioned resolutions) was, without a shadow of a doubt, intended to be displayed on 4:3 CRT monitors/TV's. You mention scaling, and the important thing would be _integer_ scaling, and you obviously do get that with the square pixel 8:7 mode. The _better_ option would be 48:35 (slightly wider than 4:3 but a hell of a lot better an approximation than 8:7), which could be achieved by scaling 6x horizontally and 5x vertically, resulting in a negligible vertical ”overscan” of 4 SNES pixels on a 1080p display. (With 4K you could get the desired 4:3 with integer scaling.)

I don't get where all the talk is coming from that 8:7 is objectively wrong. Why is it that so many modern ports and re-releases of old games look like their native resolution instead of how they would like when they are stretched or squished on a CRT? Why does Sonic Mania look like the Genesis games in 320x224, and not how the Genesis games do on a CRT (so slightly thinner)? Why is Mega Man's sprite of around the same width/height ratio in the X1-X3 games in 8:7, as the sprites in X4-X6? Mega Man is clearly fatter in X1-X3 in the CRT aspect ratio than he is in the PS1 games. Why is it that so many square/round objects in X1-X3 are oblong in a CRT aspect ratio, when they look perfectly square in 8:7? This isn't even mentioning multi-platform games like Toy Story, where the sprites look the same in 256x224 on SNES as they do on the Genesis in 320x224; display these two versions on a CRT and they have completely different proportions. Let's just leave it up to preference, so that people can choose which aspect ratio they want, and call it a day. No need to say one option is factually correct while the other isn't, because there are arguments for both sides. Even Nintendo on the NES and SNES Classic devices have the options. If Nintendo, the designer of these consoles, has the option for CRT or 8:7, clearly even they can't decide or at least understand that people have different opinions on the topic.

J's Reviews the armor in the x challenge is the ultimate armor but you ment to say that

Retropolis Zone Well, what's _prefererred_ individually is of course subjective, I'm not going to argue with that. But there is an objective answer to the question "What aspect ratio was intended by the developers?" and it's 4:3, not 8:7. This means that if the aspect ratio on this compilation "should" be anything, it should be 4:3. An added 8:7 mode of course doesn't hurt if that's what you prefer, but it's objectively wrong to say that that should be the default. That's what I meant with "objectively wrong", to clarify. _"Why is it that so many modern ports and re-releases of old games look like their native resolution instead of how they would like when they are stretched or squished on a CRT?"_ By saying "look like their native resolution" you are telling me you don't understand what I wrote, and that's the problem I was trying to address to begin with - not understanding how CRT's work. You only say "look like their native resolution" because you're used to how modern televisions work, with a fixed native resolution with square pixels. Back in the day there was nothing restricting you to only using square pixels and of course THE DEVELOPERS KNEW THAT and designed the games accordingly! This is my point. _"Why does Sonic Mania look like the Genesis games in 320x224, and not how the Genesis games do on a CRT (so slightly thinner)?"_ Because they thought that 320x224 with square pixels is close enough to 4:3. Perfectly reasonable. _"Why is Mega Man's sprite of around the same width/height ratio in the X1-X3 games in 8:7, as the sprites in X4-X6? Mega Man is clearly fatter in X1-X3 in the CRT aspect ratio than he is in the PS1 games."_ That's true, but it's a new sprite and a new design entirely so it doesn't prove anything really. _"Why is it that so many square/round objects in X1-X3 are oblong in a CRT aspect ratio, when they look perfectly square in 8:7?"_ This is actually your only good point. (Not the squares nessecarily, but definitely the circles.) Typically it's the other way around on the SNES and that would obviously be an argument in my favor. The short answer is symmetry: It's simply easier to do perfect squares and circles. Also, sometimes it actually is the best approximation given the low resolution they have to work with. There are cases, however, even in the X games where the opposite of what you're saying is true, which means they went out of their way to design "round objects" asymmetrically, which proves my point. _"This isn't even mentioning multi-platform games like Toy Story, where the sprites look the same in 256x224 on SNES as they do on the Genesis in 320x224; display these two versions on a CRT and they have completely different proportions."_ They simply used the same sprites but for different resolutions; that doesn't prove anything. The platform the game was designed for first would tell you how the sprite was intended to be displayed. It's not rocket science. Perhaps more important than any other technicality, I don't think you have to go beyond the fact that _at least_ 99% of gamers back in the 90's played SNES games in 4:3 on CRT's, so it's clearly the authentic experience in that regard. The screenshots on SNES boxes are also displayed in 4:3, further proving my point. Finally, I'd like you to ask yourself which of the following two scenarios seems more plausible: 1. The game designers designed everything with square pixels in mind and upon realizing that almost everyone played them in 4:3 on CRT's they thought to themselves: "It's a shame. I guess we'll have to wait a decade or two until monitors with fixed square pixel resolutions are the standard and then finally people will get to experience the games the way we intended." 2. The game designers knew that the games were going to be played on 4:3 CRT's and designed them accordingly.

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Zero 4 gave us an answer to that.

Fighting gold!

You should play all 4 zero games to have that awnswered

@@crazykirbymain4217 its a fucking joke and its also been a year shut up

Were going to have to wait for the zero collection to find that out

Steam reviews are basically cancer, as it is on steam, and steam is the wild west more or less.

Except the Steam version suffers from a lot of problems, like input lag, slowdown, bad reolution scaling, and overall poor optmization. It's pretty dishonest to claim that the bad reviews are there "just for the lols", considering that most are from people whom bought the game and had a bad experience with it, a lot of them "dedicated fans". I don't know about the PS4 version, but as of now, apparently they didn't correct the problems with the Steam version. I tried to play X3 in the collection, and the controls felt unresponsive, and everything was just too slow, so I tried the game in Snes9x just to see if I wasn't going crazy, and yeah, the emulator ran it in 60fps, no slowdown, no input lag (no noticeable input lag, anyway), and better pixel scaling; same deal with X1 and X2; X4 was at least playable, but it crashed during my first boss fight. On PC, at least, the collection is objectively worse than playing on an emulator. MMXLC2 might be alright, I don't know, but it's the worst half of the collection, anyway.

Also, J can go about "240p" all he wants, but the MMX Collection on PS2 is far more playable than the PC version, years earlier, on inferior hardware. If you want a good experience and high resolutions, forget the collection, just emulate it.

​@@wt_neptune54 You can say that again.

Sjono I always loved the first 3 x games better than anything else

@2d fighter fan Zero>X>ZX>Classic>Legends (canon games only)

Why tho

@2d fighter fan I liked Zero 2 and Zero 4 but I didn't like Zero 3 and Zero 1

Me too but probably because I played the X series first however I only got to play from X1-5 then tried the regular mega man games but I really liked the fast pace and art style from the X series

They just released Megaman 11. Can't expect too much from them at one time

I was also thinking that a reboot would be the best for the series. If they ever make a new X game I think they should go the same direction as the first 3 games (with core characters like x, zero, sigma, and even Dr. Cain), but take it like MHX and tell a different story. I think that maybe changing the original maverick cast would be the best since that way they could be their own separate story-lines (and, just maybe, fix the continuity after X5)

Personally I rather they reboot from X5 onward, and wipe everything after off the face of the earth.

Megaman XDive

Mega man legends 3 mega man x9 and mega man 12

Unfortunately there are no English subs.

Sadly unless ya have Japanese imports, all localized games outside of Japan and maybe Asia don't have Japanese songs no more cuz of licensing issues.

With the NA opening track too. I love that song.

El Rocky Raccoon What you mean you DON’T wanna know what Zero’s fighting FOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?

El Rocky Raccoon I’m disappointed in you Rocky

@Angelique Well spoilers but Biometal X and Z have X and Zero's souls in them so they are not really gone even if they'r bodies are.

Knuckles Channel 3 & Knuckles No 4?

No it’s the great x4

that rhymed

What bout num 7?

What about the greatest game ever x7

TGX Game Reviews I saw your sonic fandom video, it was *perfection*

I came through here just to see the comments man! imma do a playthrough for the whole collection as part of my retro gaming series!

This hasn't aged well

+YourTwchGuy Your comment hasn't aged well.

It's just his opinion.

@@legoking6165 I understand that. It was a joke.

Probably not. X series is all about sigma virus and the maverick wars.

Elf Wars were never in the X timeline to begin with.

But X, Zero, and Axl were the ones who fought the Elf Wars... so it should be part of X's timeline as well.

kyrios0307 Axl was not in the Elf Wars.

Saito if Capcom make the elf wars in X9 Axl will be in this war too like archie comics issue 55th

Mu Jones megaman legacy collection 3?

2:30. There are games from the X series still missing in this collection.

Mu Jones I thought you meant the classic megaman since you didn’t put an X

I would like to see part some of the Elf Wars from before the Zero Games... BUT then it will only be a chapter in a set history. And that could limit the creativity of the developers and Capcom...

@@DARS_04 elf wars would make a cool rpg game like the nettle network series.

I will be mentioning some of the updates, yes.

Zero project on my 3ds is the reason I have a hard time justifying buying any of these collections even at a sale price

I must say, I'm glad CRT filters are becoming more common for older games. On old TVs pixels were bright in the center and would bleed into the surrounding scanlines. Often games were designed with that in mind, allowing for a smooth blended effect or the illusion of more detail than is actually being displayed. On HD TVs pixels are perfectly contained squares, so they have to fill in blank scanlines with a duplicate of the previous line. Like a JPEG image thats missing every other row of pixels, if you copy-paste every line twice to replace the blank space, you end up with a very chunky picture.

Btw just checked the slowdown in Armored Armadillo's stage in X1 in the x collection on Gamecube and nope, no slowdown at all in that entire stage.

Kyouma with all due respect the only true bonus content in the ps2 and gamecube collections are the artwork and that weird racing game And yes I know there is the music but imo this newer legacy collection was an effective low budget celebration of 25 years Not to mention the new soundtrack amd the hint at X9 in the soundtrack booklet

yeah, they could've done those things, but people liked how things were made in X6 to give them a "challenge" but seriously, screw alia in x5, and you are right about the slowdown problem in X1-3.

I suspect what’s going on here is that X1-3 is running on some sort of emulator. Certain groupings of sound effects cut channels out of the music and there’s slowdown too even though some parts are faster than the original. Also seems to be some sort of v-sync/frameskip issue in places too. X4 feels like a port and aside from a sound or two that for some odd reason sounds higher pitched due to compression, looks and plays just right with no issues I’ve seen thus far.

Kyouma the X Collection back then was 6 ports, that’s why. Apparently X1-3 on here are emulations. And kinda rough ones in spots at that.

Bad level design? No its still there you'll just die less

I understand what you are saying, but I find it to be a bit hyperbolic. 4 Mega Man Games got cancelled at around the same time, so it hasn’t been an era of cancellations. These 4 games got cancelled because of the diminishing returns the Mega Man series had in the 2000s with each series falling off the map in terms of recognition, not to mention the MM series practically competing with itself for dev time and marketing. But since all of that is in the past, imo we should give this new era of Mm a shot with open arms, but what your saying is understandable.

Gunvolt To be fair, when we only ever knew about Classic Legacy 1, this was an honest argument. There was a weird time gap between Legacy 1+2, which made me think despite L1 running smoothly and having nice challenges they would just make a decent NES port collection and call it a day. By Legacy 2 existing and going from 1-6 to 1-10, my "BUT ANNIVERSARY" went away. And knowing from the get go we'd get X1-8 killed any "BUT X COLLECTION" I could possibly have. ...I wish I could have my PS1 X3 OST though, but beggars can't be choosers on that front, I'll take the music hit if I can have X1-8 on my Switch.

*Please...*

Is it though...

Nope....

MegaMidget Xtreme But Wha-What are you fighting fooorrrrrrrrr?! xD

@@dhazedxz007 hes fighting to keep his fans alive

You might be better off playing the Japanese version instead. The voice acting there is much better and not irritating at all in my opinion. In fact, some of the voices from that version of Mega Man X4 are reused in both X5 and X6. Otherwise, I'm afraid that will not happen. Just get use to it even if you don't like the Japanese voices.

I for one loved X and Zero's in game voices, but those cutscenes were terrible

Then why does the Classic Collection have proper scaling?

I don't know if still want the answer, but here it is: It's the Ending song from Mega Man X6 called I.D.E.A.

Thank you so much!

@@KaygoFGC You're welcome, bro

That is tough to say, if you have never played X5 - X8, it would be good to form your own opinions on it while supporting the series at the same time.

J's Reviews Yeah. Ya know what? I'll take the plunge. Worse case scenario. I don't like the 2nd half. Best case scenario? I find enjoyment in both collections.

Super Gamer61499 If I might make a suggestion, when playing X6 I would highly recommend using the Black Armor Zero Code, or the Ultimate Armor X code depending on which character you prefer to use. X6 can be very aggravating when it comes to the overall stage designs, or nightmare system gimmicks and those armors help a lot in making X6's bullshit more tolerable without making the game too easy the way that rookie mode seems to do. It's still not a perfect solution to the issues that the game has, but for me at least it was a major improvement. Also using those armors doesn't even lock you out of getting any achievements if you care about that sort of thing. There are actually two specific achievements that can only be obtained with Black Armor Zero and Ultimate Armor X.

BN: Already here Xchallange is....... meh pretty good, but not for long play wise, just felt like with two bosses, they get in the way and that's it. Would be cool if they could combined their attacks

Xebenatros Xeracroft It does, they are called “Hunter medals”

It actually does, thank goodness.

I'm really tired of seeing this hive mind that X6 and X7 are the worst, X6 is still fun for me, X7 is the only one I can't stand, and X8 irritates me too much to be good

Fair, that’s your opinion. I have to say though that X6 is not a bad game, but a f**king hard game

imo x6 is poorly designed making most of the levels complete bullshit

>X can’t shoot thru wall >Nightmare Virus is in the wall >X is in a tight corridor >Nightmare Virus fak him to death That’s X6 for you

Yes, it’s in the options menu of those games

X8 is pretty good.

But then why do people defend the PS2 collection when it also added nothing and looks worse and doesn’t have X7 or 8 and also has the PS1 version of X3 which is awful

@aBDk, because nostalgia.

aBDKstan Obviously progressive mode (480p) on LCD will of course look BAD and have input lag like what J showed but... 480i on 4:3 ratio CRT with component cable and you get near-perfect experiance with the original x games 6 plus removal of slowdowns and first time for US players to play megaman x on RGB, i'm not disapointed by this collection because it's splited into 2, i'm disapointed because it doesn't improve the experiance as well that it's just a lazy emulation, *when i'm looking for collection i want the games to play better honestly, not extra stuff like art work, soundtrack or trailers that can be easily on the internet any time soon* again i'm getting collection 2 because 7 and 8, they look quite good and it's far better option instead of wasting tons of money on ps2 copies i love the megaman series and want to support it, but at the same time i don't want to support capcom and tell them thats all ok to keep releasing half-assed ports of their old titles Justin Stewart I don't think thats entirely true since majority would prefer something to look good on their modern display, Legacy collections are basically upscalling the original 480i resulotion, it doesn't make it look better, it just makes it more acceptable on your modern LCD *aside from obviously X7 and X8 since it's from SD into HD remasters conversions which is good*

Doing it in 2019

J's Reviews lol, OK, I will be waiting (also great videos by the way), also where are you that you are replying to comments at 2 in the morning (for my local time)