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Meitner MA3 vs Weiss DAC 204 - Totally Different Beasts ! 

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Meitner MA3 vs Weiss DAC 204 - Totally Different Beasts !
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0:00 - Meitner MA3 vs Weiss DAC 204 - Prepare for the test
4:47 - Bob James - Rocket Man
9:32 - Chlara - This love
14:02 - Tsuyoshi Yamamoto Trio - Speed Ball Blues
19:02 - Chantal Chamberland - Besame Mucho
23:27 - Conclusions
*Meitner MA3 DAC vs. Weiss DAC 204: A High-Resolution Audio Showdown*
Introduction: In the ever-evolving world of digital audio, choosing the right DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) can be a daunting task. Audiophiles and music enthusiasts seek that elusive balance between accuracy, musicality, and sheer sonic pleasure. In this video, we dive deep into the realms of two exceptional DACs-the *Meitner MA3* and the **Weiss DAC 204**-to explore their features, performance, and sonic signatures.
Meitner MA3 DAC: The Descendant of Excellence
The Meitner MA3 isn't a newcomer; it's a descendent of an old friend-the EMM Labs conversion racks that graced the Clonick commercial recording studio. These racks, built by Meitner's parent company, EMM Labs, were revered for their ultimate accuracy and subtle warmth. The MA3 inherits this legacy, combining transparency with a touch of liquid smoothness. Here's what sets it apart:
Vanishing Transparency: The Meitner MA3 is like a ghost-transparent, yet hauntingly beautiful. It reveals every nuance in your music without imposing any tonal coloration. It's the audio equivalent of a perfectly clear window through which you can glimpse the soul of your recordings.
Wide Bandwidth and Tangible Imaging: The phantom image created by the MA3 is expansive, deep, and palpable. Whether it's a symphony orchestra or an intimate jazz trio, the MA3 places each instrument precisely in the soundstage, inviting you to reach out and touch the music.
Streamlined Functionality: The MA3 doubles as a streamer and a DAC. Plug it into your router via Ethernet, and you can use either Roon or Meitner's own app. The front panel, with its black knob and LED display, exudes understated elegance. Simplicity meets sophistication.
Weiss DAC 204: Precision Engineering Meets Musicality
The Weiss DAC 204 is a Swiss marvel-a blend of precision engineering and musical finesse. Let's explore its key attributes:
Technical Prowess: The Weiss DAC 204 boasts impressive specs. It can handle PCM signals up to 192/24, DSD128, 2xDSD (via DoP), and DXD over USB Audio. It's a versatile workhorse that caters to audiophiles and professionals alike.
Sonic Signature: By contrast, the Weiss DAC 204 reminds me of a popular audio plugin called Soothe. It gently scrubs off harshness in tracks while retaining detail and revealing clarity. It's like a sonic spa treatment for your ears, smoothing out rough edges without compromising accuracy.
Build Quality: The Weiss DAC 204 exudes Swiss precision. Its chassis is compact, yet it houses advanced technology. Connectivity options are streamlined, and the circuitry uses high-quality components for optimal performance.
In this video, we'll compare these two exceptional DACs side by side, dissecting their sound characteristics, build quality, and user experience. Whether you're a seasoned audiophile or a curious music lover, join us on this sonic journey as we unravel the Meitner MA3 DAC and the Weiss DAC 204.

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@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
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@9XThunder
@9XThunder 5 месяцев назад
What cables are you use ?
@DagReinbott_TerraSound
@DagReinbott_TerraSound 5 месяцев назад
Great comparison, thank you. For me the Weiss gives me more of a feeling as if I were directly involved in the recording. Even if the Meitner would cost the same - I probably would still choose the Weiss DAC. I ordered one because of one of your videos some weeks ago - and I kept it! Together with my Naim streamer (ND5 XS2) it's just a wonderful combination.
@charlierd246
@charlierd246 5 месяцев назад
Music sounds great over RU-vid. Nice music selection to test the equipment. Your speakers have a nice warm and detailed sound that can be appreciated despite the compression thru RU-vid. Good work, keep it up.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for your amazing feedback I definitely will and I believe I just find a way to delete the compression totally ;)
@gottrekk5798
@gottrekk5798 5 месяцев назад
Your recordings are really a very high quality ! It is really possible to tell the difference over youtube, although in this case the difference is very small. Personally I prefer the Weiss, not always more expensive gear is better for everyone.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing. yes I totally agree its a personal taste, and yes it's for some Lambo will be the best and for some old jeep just because they have different needs and preferences and price doesn't really matter here if you need to go off-road any Lambo will be the worse option ;) btw funny Lambo video for those who. dream about one ;) ru-vid.comXNfWfVsDkys?si=eXqOAJ5OMTMXp8w3
@garlys3417
@garlys3417 5 месяцев назад
The Meitner is amazing but a difference of 10 000$ is not justified for me, only the Meitner's price is almost your entire system. The 204 is really good, so i choose the 204.
@varindersingh7309
@varindersingh7309 5 месяцев назад
Try Netherlands 🇳🇱 based ecdesigns DAC BX retails fr 1200 dollars.. pcm no dsd .. upto 192 .. only toslink input .. it will outclass these all by huge margin .. designer is not rookie but John brown whose work on TDA 1541 is highly reckoned in diy and audio
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 4 месяца назад
Meitner MA3 used is only $6k.
@raraiiraiira5744
@raraiiraiira5744 2 месяца назад
Resolution both are quite same. More headroom and wider side to side for MA3 but 204 is so joyful to listen to. I would pick 204 for this set up. Great review, the way you present it is beyond words.
@ericelmore887
@ericelmore887 5 месяцев назад
Great video as always I think what you can do to enhance your system to get a little bit more of that smoothness mid range is to maybe get a tube preamp and then still run your class D amplifiers. Maybe look to upgrade the fuses that are in Weiss dac.
@johnlai8921
@johnlai8921 5 месяцев назад
The meitner MA3 by a mile. More open, dimensional than the Weiss while still maintaining a very natural sound
@user-nf4ob5rq4o
@user-nf4ob5rq4o 5 месяцев назад
When I opened my eyes I was able to tell the difference between the two DACs. When I closed my eyes I was not able to. I think it is a lot of money for a very small differences. 😂
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
The most of the difference is in the character. Weiss is more alive and Meither relaxed. Each will move the system to better ones comparing to less advanced DACs but with different flavors. If you like it concert like you and like the Weiss more you just saved 10000$ 😜
@AdiMaco
@AdiMaco 5 месяцев назад
Meitner MA3 is superb, it is more nuanced (refined) and more layered but I could live with Weiss DAC204 too. By the way, your Qualio speakers are indeed very good!
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Cool, thanks for your opinion and comment. Yes for sure Meitner is more refined and relaxed 😌
@rafalbroncel5792
@rafalbroncel5792 2 месяца назад
Totally opposite. Weiss play Music, meitner reproduce sounds
@vonjuergen
@vonjuergen 5 месяцев назад
I have the same goals as you! Ultimate speed, dynamics, openness and immediacy - essentially what live music is all about.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Love that! Yes I listen to relaxed music not systems ;)
@Phloored
@Phloored 5 месяцев назад
Both seem very nice. I love the recording set up. What model of shoeps are you using? Nice system, thanks for sharing.
@chipsnmydip
@chipsnmydip 5 месяцев назад
The Meitner is missing the sharp edges and height that the Weiss has, it comes across more soft in the treble and compressed, but has better bass, better transient timing (esp in the bass), and slightly better texture for reverbs etc. For the most part it comes down to whether you like a classic high res, low noise digital presentation with sharp edges, and slightly lean and restrained bass, or one that vibes a little better, and is easier on the ears, but definitely rounds and softens things. I actually own the EMM Labs DA2 and it is a familiar signature. What I can say, at least from that DAC, is there is a high level of low-level detail that doesn't quite come through on mediums like RU-vid, but the softer, rounder, and faster bass signature is definitely there.
@hermanvisser4034
@hermanvisser4034 2 месяца назад
I also prefer the Meitner DAC. Instruments (especially piano) sound more natural. I am listening on a Metrum Pavane DAC and Neumann KH310 studio monitors. For the price though, I can easily live with the Weiss. I notice you published a video comparing the Holo Audio Spring with the Weiss 204. Going to listen to it now as I am R2R DAC fan .... (my main DAC is a Sonnet Pasithea).
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 5 месяцев назад
It always amazes me how small the differences are between DAC's compared to other components. However, there are differences here. Both DAC's sound excellent. Both are detailed and tonally similar. However, the Meitner MA3 seems more natural without sacrificing all the things the Weiss DAC does well. The MA3 is everything the Weiss is but it sounds more analogue. I prefer the MA3 in your system. I could see in some systems where the Weiss might be preferred. The clarity a bit more overt but not actually more detailed than the MA3. Overall it's a tough decision because the Meitner MA3 costs about 3 times the price of the Weiss DAC 204! For most the Weiss will make the most sense.
@briancampbell7712
@briancampbell7712 Месяц назад
I'm using a Formula dac with lumin mini network streamer with upgraded external power supply...😁🎶
@MaximusTiberius_
@MaximusTiberius_ 2 месяца назад
I’d like to see the comparison of Weiss 204 vs junior Lessloss Echoe’s End
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 2 месяца назад
Interesting. I'll try to arrange the Losless Dac : )
@carlesjuliavallmajo3812
@carlesjuliavallmajo3812 5 месяцев назад
hi there , first i love your speaker and i ll purchase them !!! second i love the weiss is fantastic , streamer : auralic ? , ( rose 130), lumin u2 , t3 , i am not sure about the streamer , antipides k22 , thanks !!!
@carlesjuliavallmajo3812
@carlesjuliavallmajo3812 5 месяцев назад
maybe aqua lascala dac and innous pulsar , what do you think ? thanks bro !!!
@andreterbork7140
@andreterbork7140 5 месяцев назад
Wondering if the Weiss dac would be a match for a Hegel h590. Great music btw...
@D1N02
@D1N02 5 месяцев назад
It seemed to me the Meitner had a more relaxed presentation and longer decays, other differences I couldn't hear over youtube. I guess your tracks ware also better for the Meitner.
@johnlai8921
@johnlai8921 5 месяцев назад
You should try using the meitner with its internal streamer. The built in streamer sounds very good
@ericelmore887
@ericelmore887 4 месяца назад
Is the Weiss dac still your reference dac? Did you listen to the aqua la scala or and other high end dac ?
@c.j.vanwoerden1676
@c.j.vanwoerden1676 5 месяцев назад
My vote goes to the Meitner. More body and density. The Weiss sounds thinner in comparison. My 1 cent.
@benoitdugas745
@benoitdugas745 4 месяца назад
Definitly not worth the price difference in my ears! Great job!
@contemporaryartist6542
@contemporaryartist6542 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! I’m hoping to get that Weiss and its upgraded power supply. Try that out.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Yes before you go with the Weiss wait a few weeks I have a new great toy ;)
@contemporaryartist6542
@contemporaryartist6542 5 месяцев назад
Thanks any clues?
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 5 месяцев назад
Check out the Sonore signature rendu
@pennfootball71
@pennfootball71 4 месяца назад
If you can swing to get a Grimm MU1 it sounds more natural. I just traded in my Auralic Ares G2.2 for the MU1. The MU1 upsamples 4x and just uses SPDIF or AES on purpose because they use better processing and filters than most DAC’s do with a better clock most DAC have. I just A/B it with a Taiko Extreme and it was 95% as good as the $32000 Taiko. Taiko just has slightly more bass kick and a slightly richer mid that was very close. The Auralic sounds like it has Digititus and that’s the harshness you hear from the Weiss not the DAC. The 204 DAC is being honest the Meitner is sleepy
@victorasanza1584
@victorasanza1584 5 месяцев назад
El MA3 DAC suena con Mayor Cuerpo Bajos Acentuados y Buenos Agudos aunque el Weiss 204 DAC tiene Mayor Agudo pero al tener Menor Bajo Disminuye el Cuerpo de la Musica
@Nunorsc1
@Nunorsc1 5 месяцев назад
While i do really appreciate these sound comparison videos, i wish that on high priced items, you would also use a high end/similarly priced amplifier, because even though the fosis are very good for their money, i would really like to be able to see if with a higher tier amplifier, we would also be able to better distinguish the differences between streamers/dacs.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Hello. I am working on finding better more musical amp for the speakers but it is not that easy apparently. This amp after modifications is a true giant killer, and I had it against multiple accuphases, gryphon, nagra classic, other well received class D amp costing with the dedicated preamp 20'000$ and few others and basically it made them all pointless. After I finish up everything with the DAC Streamers, I'll leave the amps for last. Maybe I'll find a way better amp that I'll find payment for 10-20k$ worth it, because now I still did not have a chance for that ;)
@alberto3028
@alberto3028 5 месяцев назад
Weiss has more transients. I guess it has discrete or hybrid (discrete and opamp) output buffer. In terms of conversion quality, it's the same. From my point of view, the only slight difference is the line output amplification.
@fabriciovai
@fabriciovai 5 месяцев назад
I'm on the fence with the Weiss DAC204 but I don't know if it will clip with my amp. I have a Primaluna amp with a input sensitivity of 870mV. I'm still looking around DACs
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
not sure about that Weiss has a output level that can be adjusted, but from my experience tube amps can live with high level signals without clipping ;) wait for a moment I had a very positive encounter with Holo audio spring DAC which I do really like and there will ba a video on that soon ;)
@hallgeirangel6494
@hallgeirangel6494 5 месяцев назад
I am now curious as to what power supply you are using for the Weiss?!?! ;-)
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
A Simple DIY one with Mundorf caps and volrage regulator set to 8.5V
@blejzerosamigos6115
@blejzerosamigos6115 4 месяца назад
Jeżeli użyjesz aplikacji Auralic oczywiście z ipod to też zmieni brzmienie, Roon ma swój własny głos i w porównaniu z aplikacją Auralic brzmi trochę za ciepło i jakby zaowalowany, gubi trochę detali (w moim systemie, kable również robią dużą różnice) pozdrawiam
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 4 месяца назад
Dzięki za porade. Tak chetnie kiedys sprawdzę ale jestem Androidowcem a support jest tylko na IOs ;) kabelki jak najbardziej zgadzam się. Często w źródłach robią wiecej roboty niż we wzmacniaczach.
@MaxiMe-et4zs
@MaxiMe-et4zs 5 месяцев назад
Why not try the Jcat Xact S1 server? Should be available near you.
@craigspencer2927
@craigspencer2927 4 месяца назад
Meitner has a slightly cleaner sound but the Weiss is very very good. Given the price difference the Weiss is a better bang for the buck. IMHO!
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 4 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing. Yes for the money Weiss is awesome 😎
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 5 месяцев назад
Not sure what Playback Designs dacs sell for over there but at the price of the Meitner I’d be taking a serious look at them. It’s the only dac that has made me want to spend that much
@JingoLoBa57
@JingoLoBa57 5 месяцев назад
Which Aurelic did you buy?
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Auralic Aries G2.2
@kurt120032002
@kurt120032002 3 месяца назад
Not really sure what features you lack in coaxial but USB itself degrades the signal, so I made a point to avoided it at all costs. I did an A/B test with the same cables, streamer everything, and the only point where USB got in was on storage, and just by having that USB standrd degraded the sound very slightly, so I cut out any USB.
@ramlord6669
@ramlord6669 5 месяцев назад
Please take into account, that the Weiss is in its default version an at least 10k DAC, thus pricewise in the same league as the Meitner! Weiss is only just so nice to offer this reduced and a bit ugly child variant to make it much more affordable, especially for professional audio environments where nobody sees the components like otherwise in your private halls where every guest is admiring your HiFi setup presented on marble stone with gold edges 😉
@joecartwright9221
@joecartwright9221 5 месяцев назад
I like the Weiss
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. So do I ;)
@REX4340
@REX4340 5 месяцев назад
Meitner has less digital glare, probably more engaging and less fatiguing.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Definitely less fatiguing. With engagement that will depend on what each of us enjoy 😉
@zzotya777
@zzotya777 5 месяцев назад
A more accurate and clearer source better reveals the problems of sound recordings, amplifiers, rooms.
@guillaume95870
@guillaume95870 Месяц назад
The 204 is better for me !
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi Месяц назад
I did like it more as well ;) Thanks for sharing :)
@dixter1652
@dixter1652 3 месяца назад
would be interesting to put out a compare vid with a nice expensive DAC and the SMSL D-6S as an example and not tell anyone what the cheaper DAC was and see what kind of comments would there be...
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 3 месяца назад
I can arrange an smsl dać for the future for sure 😃
@mehmetcamat4458
@mehmetcamat4458 5 месяцев назад
I think once our are on the 3k range with dacs going 3 x 4 times up can only give you very little nuances and difference. For me for an average decent audiophile system Weiss DAC is more than enough enough or something like denafrips Venus is more than enough
@johnsimmons5056
@johnsimmons5056 5 месяцев назад
Weiss was way better. Much better lower and mid-bass with better punch and slam.
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your opinion ,😃👍
@funwithy
@funwithy 4 месяца назад
The meitner hasn‘t got the fundamental bass .Try to listen at higher peak level and you ‚ll see.
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Why would anyone buy a streamer that can't stream Music Videos or Concerts too? Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
I bought one and inept care for vision since I personally don't have tv ;)
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi 5 месяцев назад
@@VirtualHiFi . "...inept care for vision...". Say what? lol
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
Sorry autocorrect. "Not care for vision"
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi 5 месяцев назад
@@VirtualHiFi . Lol, now I see. With HDMI Out, I like to display the Cover Art, Meters or Spectrum analyzer on a large format monitor instead of that tiny 4" screen. But/ to each their own. Peace.
@Negatywny2
@Negatywny2 5 месяцев назад
absolutely no difference, and you wouldnt find it with 200$ DAC also :)
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
i have to disagree. there is so much difference it's not even funny 🤣
@Negatywny2
@Negatywny2 5 месяцев назад
yeah, try level matching :) @@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi
@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад
I do level match using noise and SLP meter at the same distance for All units
@Negatywny2
@Negatywny2 5 месяцев назад
@@VirtualHiFiyou got me ;) Now try blind abx testing ;)
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