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Melina's Purpose 

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@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon
@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon 2 года назад
Melina: "l can play the role of gf." Ranni: "Come, my husband."
@thefreshvince879
@thefreshvince879 2 года назад
burn baby burn
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 2 года назад
See the difference?
@MrNamenamenamename
@MrNamenamenamename 2 года назад
Confirmed ranni and Melina are waifu
@waldirnacarath
@waldirnacarath 2 года назад
ranni supremacy confirmed
@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 2 года назад
Ranni: "Thank you for doing all the hard work for me" Gigamaiden Melina: "Let's take Morgott down together, my Elden Lord".
@michaeledmunds7056
@michaeledmunds7056 2 года назад
Tarnished: "Hah! See that, Varre? I've got a maiden now!" Varre: "Really? Where is she?" Tarnished: "She's not here right now. She only shows up occasionally after I rest at these lights that apparently only I can see to tell me I'm doing a good job or whatever." Varre: "..."
@TheSebastianSykes
@TheSebastianSykes 2 года назад
It’s like similar to like divorce almost no? She says goodbye to the kids rather than you, or to the car.
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 2 года назад
That's cause she doesnt care about the player, just who ever torrent likes
@themissionary58
@themissionary58 2 года назад
She actually does say goodbye to you though. She says "Goodbye, my companion" I remember that because it was particularly sad
@surroudsound
@surroudsound 2 года назад
She lives in Canada
@joelwinter1144
@joelwinter1144 2 года назад
@@themissionary58 they might mean when you get the three fingers
@likeasonntagmorgen
@likeasonntagmorgen 2 года назад
If Melina is the gloam eyed queen, then I think the tattoo covering her eye represents Maliketh’s hand in which Destined Death was sealed. Upon defeating him, and restoring the Death Rune to the Elden Ring (making Death indiscriminate), the Gloam Eye of Melina is opened…
@khandimahn9687
@khandimahn9687 2 года назад
Interesting. It could explain why the tattoo is faded in the Frenzied Flame ending.
@ijustmakeinflammatorycomme9839
@ijustmakeinflammatorycomme9839 2 года назад
Just seen the comment on the new video... Not even a like lol Either way more eyes on the theory
@likeasonntagmorgen
@likeasonntagmorgen 2 года назад
@@ijustmakeinflammatorycomme9839 at 9:35 in the new vid? Seems very similar to me 🤷‍♂️. I suppose I would not have mentioned it had he labelled it as “a theory”, or “one theory” etc
@ForticusKrorkenstein
@ForticusKrorkenstein 2 года назад
Then this would support the idea that Melina is simply trying to repair things of her volition. I still think Marika and Radagon both ended up serving the Greater Will. As the Erdtree grows more powerful so does the influence of the Greater Will. What if a deathless age of constant struggle was what the greater will intends?
@Terminalsanity
@Terminalsanity Год назад
@@ForticusKrorkenstein I think Melina is Marika's daughter (of a sort) born likely before the Golden order was fully established and before the Nox/Numen were banished to the Eternal Cities underground as she shares the same moveset as the Night Maidens and Black Knife Assassins (who were Numen Women with ties to Marika and scions of the Eternal cities) At some point the Greater will through the two fingers selected Melina as an Empyrean to wield and deliver destined death in the name of the greater will and as an Empyrean had the potential to replace Marika. At which point I suspect Marika who was aware of if not had taken part in the Downfall of the preceding Dragon order and Greater Will abandoning it and its God and one time vessel of the Elden ring whom she and her order were in the process of replacing got paranoid that one day the Greater will may well seek to abandon her and have her own daughter Melina replace her resolved to remove the death rune to avoid a similar fate which I suspect incensed Melina as she had come to accept and believe that delivering destined death was her calling and declared open war with Marika becoming the Gloam eyed Queen and leading her Godskin apostasy but was ultimately defeated by Maliketh. however Marika in part out regret and foreseeing a future where she may want to end her rule and order, only had Melina killed in body alone similar to Rani (whichmay have inspired that part of Rani's later scheme) leaving Melina burned, bodiless, near powerless, and without a clear purpose with the death rune fully sealed. But Marika did have a contingency plan that involved Melina, Hewg, and the Tarnished should she decide to end her order and rule a plan she initiated when the death her favorite child despite all her efforts came to pass.
@trampoline11x
@trampoline11x 2 года назад
Its pretty chilling to hear Melina, this being who has pretty consistantly been around to help and guide us be very plain in telling us "If you become lord of Chaos, _I will kill you_ ". Like, she knows exactly what shes talking about right there. *_She's here to kill Chaos._*
@Gary_a_normal_human_being
@Gary_a_normal_human_being 2 года назад
UH…uh…UH
@ZhongliArchonofSwag
@ZhongliArchonofSwag 2 года назад
Chaos…? It’s not as simple as Chaos. It’s about annihilation of everything in order to relieve pain and suffering. If you listen to the three fingers “maiden”, it’s clear. It’s the culmination of an older school of philosophy that suggests life and individuality is suffering, and the only cure is to become a singular chaotic void of nothingness. And yes, that’s a real thing. Melina makes it clear when she speaks to you outside the three fingers. Someone who would abandon individuality has no right to be a Lord, a Lord wouldn’t abandon their peoples very being. Melina hunts you down not because you’re chaos in that ending. It’s because you’re Seymour from Final Fantasy 10. And we should all hunt down and kill Seymour’s from Final Fantasy 10. 👍🏻
@natahliazaring5291
@natahliazaring5291 2 года назад
She HATES chaos. Chaos killed her wife and fucked her dog and recorded it. Chaos. She has the MP4 on her MacBook.
@ryanh3772
@ryanh3772 2 года назад
@@ZhongliArchonofSwag I think that OverTheStone was making a reference to the game Stranger of Paradise. It's sort of a meme; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-no-MCGxZcsQ.html
@edwelndiobel1567
@edwelndiobel1567 2 года назад
She aint gonna kill shit.
@matus19971
@matus19971 2 года назад
Melina: the erdtree burns, my purpose is fulfilled, goodbye you who walks alongside the flame Me shortly after: hello there 3 fingers Melina form the grave: am I a joke to you?
@thabignickdigga2603
@thabignickdigga2603 2 года назад
I'm seriously bout to do this
@theeldenbeast
@theeldenbeast 2 года назад
@@thabignickdigga2603 maidenless behavior
@viperakmal
@viperakmal Год назад
Melina from the grave: I can imagine that, Melina doing the same meme of that guy from the stadium looking at something soooo disappointing to. 😅🤣😅🤣
@TheInfii
@TheInfii Год назад
I did the same on this playthrough. But Melina never reappeared for me. 😂
@ForgedinPrint
@ForgedinPrint Год назад
I actually accidentally did this on my first playthrough. I saw a giant ass door on my way to get the stone tablet, couldn't figure out how to open the door. Killed the fire giant, was like "hey I wonder if there is a way through that door. It's probably a gank or something". I then went back to that door, saw someone put a sign that said "no armor", and proceeded to get mad that I was forced into that ending. Not at the game mind you, at myself.
@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 2 года назад
The voice direction given to Melina's actress clearly shows her intentions are not ill-intended and she truly believes what she is doing is for the greater good. That "Thank you" she gives when burning herself is the most heart-warming line in all of Elden Ring.
@CharterForGaming
@CharterForGaming 3 месяца назад
What about Hewg calling you lord. He was a true friend. And roderika staying with Hewg implying she is part of the loop Hewg is in, as he recalls someone like her when she first goes to the roundtable
@rkmugen
@rkmugen 2 года назад
Melina's purpose was to sell me a car. She offered me an Accord...... but instead, she gave me a horse. Truth be told, I would've preferred the car.
@eneveasi
@eneveasi 2 месяца назад
I feel like the car would have a hard time in the lands between..
@DancingAlldayLong
@DancingAlldayLong 26 дней назад
​@@eneveasi imagine driving off a cliff with a spirit spring
@deztacular
@deztacular 2 года назад
When Melina said "as surely as night follows day" I got big dusk vibes from her
@deztacular
@deztacular 2 года назад
One thing tho, I don't think the greater will wants the death rune back in the elden ring. Enia says that it's much too late to put it back and it would cause problems
@pancakecookies50
@pancakecookies50 2 года назад
The lines, you'll surely find them at George RR Martin's Game of thrones novel. Could be some classic words of him.
@Dunge0n
@Dunge0n 2 года назад
@@deztacular If it's really her purpose, she might not be able to see that, or beyond it. She comes off as somewhat "programmed," even for all her emotion. Like how all lifeforms are programmed to struggle blindly towards death, unconcerned with any grander point.
@alexandersavage305
@alexandersavage305 2 года назад
I still think the Gloam Eyed Queen is a character we haven’t met yet. I think Melina’s purpose is to free Marika from the Erdtree, which is why she’s willing to commit a cardinal sin. She has no love for the golden order, only her mother, and wants to see Marika, the Ring, and The Lands Between, all repaired.
@Wakish0069
@Wakish0069 2 года назад
I mean > Her eye is Gloam colored > She's obsessed with destined death > She has the same animations as the Black Knife Assassins > She uses a weapon that is directly related to the Black Knife, and has almost exactly the same flavor text > Ranni took the death rune, and somehow it got into the hands of the Gloam Eyed Queen - implying they worked together > Ranni and Melina are half sisters, and are the only two who refer to Torrent by name > Ranni says she knows the previous owner of Torrent > Gloam Eyed Queen was also obsessed with destined death, and had the death rune > Melina claims her body was burned, and Maliketh uses fire
@nathanieldelacruz7198
@nathanieldelacruz7198 2 года назад
@@Wakish0069 the dialogue from Ranni regarding Torrent makes sense now... Ranni pretty much said that she knows the previous owner of Torrent. It might be Melina.
@Wakish0069
@Wakish0069 2 года назад
@@nathanieldelacruz7198 Ranni and Melina 100% know each other and are half sisters, and all evidence points to them being allies I didn't mention it in my above comment, but it seems Melina's face is that spectral face you see next to Ranni's - and the tattoo on their opposite eyes match
@Notsogoodguitarguy
@Notsogoodguitarguy 2 года назад
@@Wakish0069 I believe the face you see next to Ranni is Ranni. The "Ranni" that you interact with is a doll, because she sacrificed her body. And the ghostly thing is her soul. I don't think it's Melina.
@Wakish0069
@Wakish0069 2 года назад
@@Notsogoodguitarguy The ghost face thing we really don't know, but have you seen people overlap Melina's face on top of it? The tattoo and opposite closed eyes match up perfectly Not really sure what this entails, but both of these sisters lost their original bodies and may have some connection
@brockkilligan3877
@brockkilligan3877 2 года назад
Melina seems to be a "solaire is the lost son of gwyn" character currently. We don't have a lot of answers so we force this character to fill the gaps.
@yamnbam4346
@yamnbam4346 Год назад
That was a joke theory Tbf. I feel like this theory makes more sense. Plenty of arguments you could make for this one.
@proximityclockworkx1572
@proximityclockworkx1572 Год назад
You mean we get told off by Miyazaki 2 games later "no lol", like with the Nameless King?
@Blade4952
@Blade4952 2 года назад
Was actually pretty sad when she died... Then I finished the chaos ending AFTER burning the tree, not realizing she was against it... sooo I guess no one is coming to kill me. accidental win?
@newt2120
@newt2120 2 года назад
Thats more like a double loss. You let her die AND became frenzied lord?
@shinraannihilatiion9617
@shinraannihilatiion9617 2 года назад
@@newt2120 or a double win however you want to look at it lol
@troybird7604
@troybird7604 2 года назад
Lol I did this too. I decided that my character was just so heartbroken after her loss that he just decided to burn it all down and start again. This video makes my personal "lore" playthrough of Elden Ring oh so much more poignant
@TempestRequiem0
@TempestRequiem0 2 года назад
​@@troybird7604 I did a similar thing, but with a religious zealot style character (nothing more fitting than a religious nut bringing about the end of the world) following Millicent's quest. Made sure to kill Malenia right before Godfrey for extra style points. Melina still being alive at the end was a bonus since I don't like the idea of the Lord of Frenzy getting to live especially since it definitely kills the Tarnished at the end and just takes over the body like Yura with Shabriri.
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 2 года назад
Yeusss!
@rodrigomanzo777
@rodrigomanzo777 2 года назад
Here's my take: 1- Melina was the last attempt of Radagon to repair the ring, he tried but he couldn't mend the Elden Ring, he needed a tarnished to do so. 2- Tarnished, before being exiled and fallen from grace (literally) depended on maidens for guidance of the Greater Will, once marika banished Godfrey and the Tarnished, she set out to eliminate all maidens. 3- A flock of tarnished started returning to the lands between to fulfill the prophecy of "a tarnished becoming elden lord" this is literally said by the finger reader at the entrance of Leyndell. 4- The tarnished returning posed a serious problem for any of them to become elden lords as for what we know THE only maiden searching the land is Hyetta, we see a couple more but both were killed, and Therolina becomes one of Seluvis puppets. without maidens NO tranished would never reach Leyndell as they can't even channel runes into power, let alone interpret the will of the Greater Will. 5- Seeing this Radagon/Marika creates Melina to be the last Maiden. 6- we know that prior to our tarnished arrival there were 2 suitable candidates for Elden Lord: Vyke and Bernahl. 7- Vyke couldn't become a Lord because he pledged to the Frenzied flame, which would've prompted Melina to ditch him. 8- Melina in one of her first dialogues tells you she doesn't remember much, other than she was burned, if you read Bernahl's armor set you'll notice it says he could've become "Lord" but his maiden burned away... that's very strange, as Bernahl is later connected to Rykard being eaten by the snake, and to the night of the Black Knights (by the items he drops in Farum Azula) 9- My thoughts is that Bernahl managed along with Melina to go into Leyndell and tried to set the tree ablaze, as it's shown in one of the sides of the Erd Tree which is clearly mated and possibly burnt. The Finger reader at the foot of Rold's Lift tells you that burning the tree is a cardinal sin, however unless that sin was attempted before, it would seem that just the idea of it was unthinkable for anyone living in The Lands Between 10- after that attempt Melina was called back inside the Erd Tree, and later sent to you, but without her memories of the previous "coup" attempts.
@rightousnesspursuer6523
@rightousnesspursuer6523 2 года назад
Vykes maiden wasn't Melina. Melina only plays the role of maiden.
@rodrigomanzo777
@rodrigomanzo777 2 года назад
@@rightousnesspursuer6523 not even Melina has a clear idea who she was prior of meeting you, but the fact that she can channel the power as a maiden sure points to her having a connection to grace that is one of a maiden (or former maiden) or similar.
@rightousnesspursuer6523
@rightousnesspursuer6523 2 года назад
@@rodrigomanzo777 Perhaps. I'm just saying because we meet vykes maiden who is dead.
@lawlessloki9320
@lawlessloki9320 2 года назад
​@@rodrigomanzo777 yeah vayke Madien died it's why he even went with the three fingers. and for behall he had another maiden as well. notice that malenia is called the kindling Madien that is something that should explain the lore but I just don't know what yet
@rodrigomanzo777
@rodrigomanzo777 2 года назад
@@lawlessloki9320 read the items from Bernahl...he literally burnt his maiden, and the erd tree has a huge scar right where the thorns are as if charred
@Sylentmana
@Sylentmana 2 года назад
Melina takes the phrase “I’ll be with you in spirit” to a whole other level.
@breathair66
@breathair66 5 месяцев назад
where did she say that?
@Sylentmana
@Sylentmana 5 месяцев назад
@@breathair66 it’s a turn of phrase people use. The joke is that’s she’s an actual spirit.
@Kaylos29
@Kaylos29 2 года назад
I got the distinct impression from the first couple conversations you have with Melina after defeating Morgott, that Melina becoming the kindling maiden was her own decision, that she redirected her purpose from it's original. Very possibly an act of defiance against her original based on her angry tone. I have a hard time believing she cares for the greater will given she doesn't care a if you pledge yourself to Ranni, meaning that possibly the Elden ring does not get restored at all (that is unclear). It is also important to note, that Melina was not born of a mother, despite being heavily implied (not counting datamining confirming this) she is the daughter of Marika. She tells us this herself, when discussing Boc wanting his mother and to be called beautiful. This means she was likely created in some other manner, and her being a piece of the rune of death is quite poetic.
@kevo300
@kevo300 2 года назад
she could of dropped a mixtape and it would be so fire the urdtree would burn
@tommyandmechon6943
@tommyandmechon6943 Год назад
Noice
@onesime.t
@onesime.t Год назад
True we could've even featured in it
@ay1701
@ay1701 2 года назад
Elden Chads: Lord Godfrey the first elden Chad Hoarah Loux, Chad Chad Margott the last of all Chads Margit the fell Chad General Chadahn Godwyn the Chad Iron Chad Alexander Maliketh the black Chad(nothing racist) Radagon of the golden Chads Varre Chad Morgott last of all Chads: “None may claim the title of Elden Chad with Maidens”
@jacobb6435
@jacobb6435 2 года назад
Hey dude, just want to say you put out fantastic content, you're one of my favorite Elden Ring.... Lorists? I urge you to not pay any heed to the jackwagons that have been claiming copyright bs. Keep doing you and let the haters stew in their negativity. I look forward to all of your lore videos, keep it up 🤟
@TheSebastianSykes
@TheSebastianSykes 2 года назад
I approve this message
@Jake-TorukMakto-Sully
@Jake-TorukMakto-Sully 2 года назад
@@TheSebastianSykes I approve it as well.
@Nathan_Coley
@Nathan_Coley 2 года назад
Approved
@marijuanaknowsomething6743
@marijuanaknowsomething6743 2 года назад
Wait, people have been copyright claiming lore videos? Quantum TV must have a sith academy training these bastards somewhere. Lol
@NedStarrk007
@NedStarrk007 3 месяца назад
So why if we save her with the needle then choose like the destined death ending or gold mask ending is she not happy
@2402Stevo
@2402Stevo 2 года назад
Where does it say the Erdtree feeds on struggle? I read Marika sending away Godfrey and the Tarnished as her plan to overthrow the Elden Beast by making the Tarnished die and die again so they could become stronger. "Grow strong in the face of Death."
@Eladelia
@Eladelia 2 года назад
It definitely does not say that. Souls appear to return to the Erdtree, so it may feed on souls in some capacity, but we're given no reason to believe it feeds on struggle. Even if it did, it would make no sense to send people to struggle outside the Erdtree's territory to struggle to feed it: they're outside its territory.
@2402Stevo
@2402Stevo 2 года назад
@@Eladelia Right, I was referring to this video, where he said that the tree fed on struggle and I don't recall finding anything that pointed towards that conclusion.
@Eladelia
@Eladelia 2 года назад
@@2402Stevo Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was meaning to reinforce your point, not disagree with you
@2402Stevo
@2402Stevo 2 года назад
@@Eladelia No problem. I hope the creator of the video can share his two cents on where he got his conclusion.
@DrGuyPHD
@DrGuyPHD 2 года назад
AgtJake has mentioned that the erdtree feeds on struggle in at least 2 of his videos that I’ve seen, and both times he hasn’t really explained why he thinks so. He’s the only content creator who has this theory that I’ve seen
@davidebazzi8273
@davidebazzi8273 2 года назад
I wonder if Melina's appearance is so similar to Ranni's because they're both dead in the flesh, but not in the soul. We know that Ranni dies in the flesh, but sacrifices Godwyn's soul so she can survive. If Melina is the soul of the Gloam Eyed Queen, whose body has been destroyed, this means that another demigod lost his soul. But who?
@トーキ-g8v
@トーキ-g8v 2 года назад
Maybe she just took upon the body of the first person who died
@callumgoodson5679
@callumgoodson5679 2 года назад
The way I see it Melina and Ranni are both part of the Gloam eyed Queen. Ranni is dusk and Melina is dawn which is why they share that ghostly face overlay as both parts of the “gloam” which can mean both dusk and dawn depending on context. Also the mark on Melina’s eye is a crows foot which obviously is a sign of death tying her to destined death and Ranni.
@riccardocirielli
@riccardocirielli 2 года назад
Ranni is not the Gloam-eyed Queen. She is the daughter of Radagon and Rennala. She only has a connection to the Rune of death because she stole it, but that happened years later, after Maliketh defeated the Gloam-eyed Queen
@Jim-pq9pm
@Jim-pq9pm 4 месяца назад
Gloam is being used as an adjective, which means shady or gloomy. Melina's one eye has become shady in that ending.
@awtodor
@awtodor 3 месяца назад
Don't think they are all gloam eye, but think Miquella, Ranni, and Melina are walking the same path. The three lone wolfs who have forsaken the greater will and want to end the order of things. Both Ranni and Melina have a deep tie to Torrent, who has chosen us and I think we'll find out miqeulla has a tie to Torrent in the dlc.
@adamsirin7249
@adamsirin7249 2 года назад
I think that Melina's relation to the gloam eyed queen could be like Millicent is to Malenia. Heavily implied to be born of the shattering (blooming) of Malenia. Similarly, Melina might be born of the Gloam eyed queen's defeat (at the foot of the Erdtree). She regains her complete self in FF ending. So when Ranni gives you the bell and talks about Torrent's previous owner, she must be referring to the gloam eyed queen (the steed is spectral as are the spirit ashes, both post death) Kinda like V and Vergil I guess. It might be that Marika was the only person who knew of Melina's existence and was part of her plan to return Godfrey and grant him audience.
@tyler9255
@tyler9255 2 года назад
this makes sense as they are both empyrean, splitting themselves into Aspects seems to be what they do.
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 2 года назад
Theres a few counters to this claim that come to mind. Why is melina in an incomplete state? She says she lost her purpose long ago and was burned and bodyless? Only to get a new one from marika. This born from death would make a lot of sense but the fact she apparently had a former body and purpose takes a lot of the wind from the sails for that idea. I do think melina was born from death as being born from the roots points to where they bury their dead so they can reach the tree sooner to be reborn and where Godwyn is(perhaps godwyns body has something to do with it.) Almost like a reverse of how life normaly is recycled for her to be born where the dead are. But I'm starting to lean to the idea melina being born is only pertaining to her current state, not what ever she was before being burned and bodyless but i dont have any proof just the only logical one that lets melina be who she is now and be associated with the gloam eyed queen cause there is so much that points to it but if she was "born bu marika at the roots of the tree" as the gloam eyed queen its impossible because gloam eyed queen most likely exsisted before the erdtree. I get thar info from the deathbrids serving the gloam eyed queen and they exsisting litterly before the erdtree. Still need some more context before saying what exactly is what unfortunately. Also another reason melina couldn't have experienced a similar thing to millicent is that she calls melania her mother, either by blood or association im not sure the motivation but technically she did create millicent from the bloom so it checks out. For melina she is calling marika her mother as well as data mining calling her "daughterofmarika" so exsisting from gloam eyed queen the way millicent does from melania just doesnt work in thay context.
@adamsirin7249
@adamsirin7249 2 года назад
@@petercottantail7850 Actually, none of what you said takes the 'wind out of its sails'. Millicent has marks on her face as well. Millicent NEVER calls Malenia her mother. Melina NEVER calls Marika her mother. As for the datamine name, Nepheli Loux is daughter of Gideon. Having a former body and purpose takes NOTHING away from the idea, actually. It could be the result of someone thwarting the 'cardinal sin' planned by Marika. No offence and all, but nothing of what you typed is of any consequence. That too such a LONG wall of text...
@balintkiraly6187
@balintkiraly6187 2 года назад
I think milicent is malenia's dignity basically and she lost that when she allow the scarlet rot to bloom
@danthe0therman51
@danthe0therman51 2 года назад
"the one who walks alongside flame, shall one day meet the road of destined death" I feel this is atleast connects Melina to the gloam eyed queen in some capacity. Originally, the gloam eyed queen held control over destined death, in the form of the black fire used by the godskins in combat. Until, maliketh beat her and took it for himself and used it as a weapon out in the open which frightened all the demigods. Eventually, ranni steals a piece of it in the night of black knives and when maliketh gets it back, he seals it away in the amulet until our fight with him in game. This would makes sense about the tattoo over Melina's eye being a beasts claw cause it symbolizes maliketh, being a shadowbound beast, whom beat her. As such, her powers are sealed away until the rune is freed into the world and her eye opens, being able to use the power of destined death once agian.
@lemredd9724
@lemredd9724 2 года назад
I was wondering why the use of Dark Souls OSTs, but then you mentioned about Melina's "kindling" sacrifice. Such a subtle detail.
@agtjake
@agtjake 2 года назад
Thank you for noticing that 💕
@picklefathernurgle2719
@picklefathernurgle2719 2 года назад
What I find odd is that Melina seems to be following you at the end of the Lord of Chaos ending. I've been thinking that if you take the flame, burn the tree but then use the needle she should come back and say "Oh, I see what you did there. Smart.".
@jake_
@jake_ 2 года назад
When Melina says "Death Indiscriminate", she means that gods and demigods must die too. And i think Marika was on the same page. She sacrificed her son and tried to kill herself (she was the Elden Ring she tried to shatter). The Numen assassins were her people and Ranni simply took advantage of the situation, by working with Marika at first and then setting in motion her own plans. Marika sent Godfrey and his soldiers away to grow strong in the face of actual death and come back stronger, to help her That was her plan B, if she failed. Which is the reason the tarnished have returned. She stole the rune of Death and gave it to her to shadow to guard it. She wanted to use it for her own purposes, not thoseof the Greater Will. At some point she became obsessed with the idea that living forever was the root of all evil. It made people corrupt and weak. She even told her children that either they will be strong or they will become a sacrifice. The Greater Will tried to take advantage of this "Plan B", in order to take out all the demigods that rejected it. But it doesn't want Marika dead, which is why you find the entrance to the Erdtree closed. Even the Two Fingers are surprised by that, which is why they try to communicate with it to find out why, after you kill the Omen King. They are not in the know. Melina tries to fulfill her mother's plan. She is not afraid of death, because for her, immortality is the real cause of everything that went wrong. She literally tries to help you kill her mother and the Elden Beast, just like Marika tried to do and failed. That is her purpose, "given to her in the Erdtree": to complete Marika's plan and deliver Indiscriminate Death Edit" By the way, her name, "Melina", also describes the color of her eyes: "honey".
@lukefrost6907
@lukefrost6907 Год назад
she says that she is acting of her own accord and doesn't care what her perpose given to her is though
@Ty-cx3gv
@Ty-cx3gv 6 месяцев назад
I'm pretty Marika didn't want to kill Godwyn. After all, her grief over his death caused her to shatter the Elden Ring. I think she may have had doubts about sealing the Rune of Death, and wanted to release it.
@jake_
@jake_ 6 месяцев назад
@@Ty-cx3gv Yes, i have changed my mind on this since then.
@whozurdaddyva
@whozurdaddyva 2 года назад
Melina being the gloam eyed queen makes sense she has a twilight colored eye.but her being the dusk eyed queen is also sensible. She has a dusk eye after the Lord of chaos. And the whole as surely as night follows day line confirms it
@lukefrost6907
@lukefrost6907 Год назад
gloam is a literal synonim or however you spell it of dusk
@this_is_japes7409
@this_is_japes7409 2 года назад
if miquella's needle eliminates/suppresses the influence of the outer gods and melina is the gloam/dusk-eyed queen i.e. an outer god, then even if she did wanted to speak with us once again, maybe she can't because of miquella's needle.
@marcustefan4453
@marcustefan4453 2 года назад
It is never implied that the Gloam eyed queen is an outer god
@RuslanLagashkin
@RuslanLagashkin 2 года назад
Haha, excellent!
@wolff_
@wolff_ 2 года назад
The Elden Beast hand has 3 fingers very separated from the other 2 in that cutscene, dont know if it was on purpose or not but still, HMMMMMM
@FreddyCastaneda1
@FreddyCastaneda1 2 года назад
I'm confused. I thought the rune of Death was removed so that the age of the Golden Order would begin. Isn't that why Marika is called the Eternal because she got rid of death from the lands between? Why is AgtJake asserting that the rune of death was removed after the Shattering?
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 2 года назад
You right. It's a common mistake to think that, my friend thought the same thing and i had to go over a couple item discriptions to get him to believe me. And to be fair it is hard to imagine someone 'taking' death out of the ring, when theres a shattering it would make sense if thats whem it happened so i understand the confusion. Unfortunately i dont think ive found a single lore video that doesn't get something completely wrong and some how soirals out of control by coming to a conclusion that was based on incorrect information. But I still watch them to see if i missed anything cause i want to know what happened and its a community after all, cant do it all on my own 😫 but it would be nice if lore/theory videos tried to be accurate for once, but truth doesnt make money content does 🧐
@DrGuyPHD
@DrGuyPHD 2 года назад
This is a very clear thing the game tells you and somehow people still get it very wrong
@4566Iggy
@4566Iggy 2 года назад
We need dlc bad.
@ilbertipt
@ilbertipt Месяц назад
@@4566Iggy enjoy dlc
@ilbertipt
@ilbertipt Месяц назад
But we need more
@Vapor.Steve77
@Vapor.Steve77 2 года назад
Super crazy theory dump ahead!!!!! So basically every offspring of Marika or Radagon comes in 3 and usually the names start or sound the same (ex. Ranni, Radhan, Rykard) but if you think about it. The ones who break this rule are the offspring of Marika and Radagon Mikela and Malenia. If you try a third name that rimes. Melina fits perfectly. Further more. Malenia has the red mane of her father and Mikela has the golden hair of his mother and when you see the transition from Marika to Radagon in the final fight between the golden hair and the red mane it looks pink!!!! My guess. Melina is a secret daughter of the gods. Who they sent to destroy the golden order. The reason why Rani was able to steal death from Maliketh which if you think about you would need an insider to do something like that. The connection between Ranni and Melina is no that obvious but we all know is there. Her purpose is to restore the balance by shattering it.
@michaelwilliams8242
@michaelwilliams8242 2 года назад
Melina's big line is "the one who walks alongside flame will one day meet the road of destined death." And her title that we know is the kindling maiden. So I certainly believe she was purposed to burn the erdtree, but I'm also curious as to what meeting destined means, and when she first became associated with the rune of death.
@Foxelus
@Foxelus 2 года назад
I think she refers to the fact that in order to really burn the Erdtree and access to it, we also need to fight Maliketh who protects the destined death rune.
@graciesugarbee
@graciesugarbee 2 года назад
I didn't know you could summon Melina for the Morgott fight! That's so cool. Love your videos my dude and still so upset that some jerk copyrighted your video that you worked so hard on! I really hope youtube approved your appeal. Keep doing you my dude!
@MrMilkyCoco
@MrMilkyCoco 2 года назад
I dislike that people think that saving her is whats best for her. The lady has lived far far far longer than you and has experienced many things before meeting you. Is it so far fetched to accept that she chose this fate out of her own free will? She even says that this fate of hers was her own choosing ...she wanted it to happen. Why should one take that away from her >
@WeirdTroll666
@WeirdTroll666 2 года назад
She gives us the (Honda) Accord
@Jay-qh6uv
@Jay-qh6uv 2 года назад
You know how Marika’s and Radagon’s kids either have red or white/blond hair? Melina has pink hair. Pink is just red and white mixed together. Melina says her mother gave her purpose IN the Erdtree. Is Melina a child Radagon and Marika somehow created while Marika was imprisoned? Regardless, hair color is really significant in this game and never seems to be just a random aesthetic choice. FromSoft is amazing at visual storytelling and so much is conveyed through character appearances. Melina’s mother being Marika and Melina having pink hair rather than red or blond is significant. It’s saying something. I haven’t heard anyone mention this yet, and I truly think it’s very significant. Maybe I haven’t watched enough lore videos though and it’s already been discussed. If Melina’s pink hair is significant, then her hair color change when she becomes the Gloam Eye’d Queen must also be extremely significant and might give a clue as to what the hell is going on with her.
@krillin6
@krillin6 2 года назад
I believe Melina is the Snow Witch. Her face is near identical to Ranni, one eye closed, and they even sound nearly identical. We know Ranni's new doll body was based on the looks of her Witch teacher. They even have the same eye color (revealed in the frenzied flame ending).
@lalakcj
@lalakcj 2 года назад
Melina makes many references to her “mother” and makes clear that her mother is in the ErdTree. But she also makes many references to “Marika,” and seems to refer to her as discrete entity who is not her mother. This to me seems like a deliberate choice, which suggests that Marika is not her mother. But if that’s right, who is her mother then? The elden ring itself? Some other essence within the erdtree?
@jorgenjorgensen2739
@jorgenjorgensen2739 2 года назад
Wait... you can summon Melina?!
@JayAllenification
@JayAllenification 2 года назад
I subscribed because I used your videos to explain lore to none Elden Ring fans. Keep doing you bro, this situation your dealing with might ended up benefiting you in the end. Also I wanted your dog to get treats!
@owendiaram3870
@owendiaram3870 2 года назад
Typically the phrase "Driven to the brink" means that they're on the edge of something, whether its madness or otherwise.
@kr1spness
@kr1spness 5 месяцев назад
Everyone thinks she's the gloam eyed queen because she has a weird eye, even though Ranni has a closed eye and a burned body.... The real question is who Torrent's former master is, and Miquella or Marika seems to be the best bet, either could be the 'girl' with the three wolves in Farum Azula if it were a sort of prophecy. Melina is likely a child of Marika born to burn the erdtree when she was imprisoned, and considering Millicent is somehow a daughter of Malenia, I think it's a safe bet. As for her eye, same as Ranni, i think its just because her spirit is split from her body, i think Melina is a daughter in the sense that shes a clone of Marika, an empty vessel she made from her essence to be kept secret from Radagon for this one purpose, the child was killed by Maliketh's hand in body, while perhaps Marika was killed in soul out of a desire to end Godwyn's shameful half-death. I think Gloam Eyed Queen is just a Numen the two fingers wanted to replace with a puppet, and Marika didn't like her strings when she noticed them.
@delmoneto
@delmoneto 2 года назад
Actually, Marika plucked the rune of death out of the elden ring and gave it to maliketh BEFORE shatering the elden ring, years before. Ranni stole a fragment of death from maliketh, and used to kill Marika’s firstborn and ONLY healthy child. She was furious with maliketh incompetence and cursed him. Maliketh sealed death within his body so no one would ever steal it from him again, and spent the rest of his life trying to take back all the death he let escape, by “eating” death that we players give him and returning the stolen fragments back to the rune of death trapped inside his body. He does this to try to fix his mistake and please marika again, as we all know empyrean shadows are very loyal to their empyrean and would do anything for them “rip blaidd”. We can see him, as beast clergyman, lamenting and calling for marika, asking when this curse would end, hoping to be forgiven. And he always refer to the death loose at the world as his “sin” blaming himself for been robbed or deceived by ranni, and saying it was his duty to fix it. AFTER waging hundreds of war in the name of the Greater Will, having her children cursed and killed because of this never ending conflict of imposing the Greater Will desire upon other people and other gods, marika was tired of all the “bullshit” and shattered the elden ring (the elden beast/Greater Will agent wrote the elden ring). After she shattered it, she was “killed” by the elden beast as punishiment and her body imprisoned inside the tree (form me it seens she is not dead just kinda absorved? Like all other souls that the erdtree absorves). Radagon tried to fix it but he was punished as well. Now who is melina? I dont know, I think she was Bernahl maid (beast champion set) who threw herself into the fire. She tells us she died burned and is bodyless. And her dagger, the Blade of Calling, belonged to the “kindling maiden”, and “someone set on a journey to fulfill her duty”. Now who is melina mother? Why the first time she burned herself didnt count? She said she was born inside the great three só what does that mean? Who is the gloam eyed queen? I think we will only discover this things in the dlc
@wolfshade124
@wolfshade124 2 года назад
This. Marika only became known as "The eternal" after she took the rune of death away from the ring and gave it to Maliketh for safe-keeping, so that she and her offspring could live eternal lives and destroy all their enemies in the Lands Between, to consolidate the golden order. Where i have a different theory is regarding the shattering. I believe Marika shattered the ring as a big "Screw U, everybody go to hell" once Ranni managed to steal a fragment of the rune of death to kill herself and Godwyn. I do not believe Marika has a grand scheme of redemption and plans of freedom from the control of greater will, i think she just threw a tantrum out of rage and grief from losing her firstborn, thus shattering the ring. She is a manipulative and controlling person who wanted to punish everyone and everything, even if it meant being punished herself. She is just another Cersei Lannister, and probably FS tried to made her less obvious by making her share the same body with Radagon (Jaime Lannister), without hinting to a very obvious case of incest.
@jUSTZIpPos
@jUSTZIpPos 2 года назад
Here's the one and only real truth... "Melina is the true Elden Lord." you are welcome
@techpriestofmars899
@techpriestofmars899 2 года назад
I think Melina, Marika and the gloam eyed queen are all the same person. Mainly because we never see Marika alive, we only see her other half, Radagon. Melina is also bodyless like Ranni. I think there is something to be said about the fact that Melina is bodyless and Marika appears to be soulless (or at least her soul is not in her body when we see her before and after the Radagon/Elden Beast fight). Also Marika seems to share goals with the godskins, mainly the death of the gods (evidenced by master Hewg making a god slaying weapon for the tarnished on Marika's orders). Marika and Melina also share the goal of getting the tarnished on the throne/ killing the elden beast which is the vassel of the golden order in the lands between. It's likely not correct but idk I just find this theory fun.
@Bibspagush
@Bibspagush 2 года назад
It feels as though Melina looks like Ranni because that is indeed Ranni's body, infused with another spirit (melina) or a fragment of the spirit of the rune of death. EDIT: At the time of writing this comment, I wasn't aware that Ranni's body can be found in the game, but it would've been a fun theory ! XD
@Rannos22
@Rannos22 2 года назад
It's really disappointing that you do all this work to remove the frenzied flame and then it doesn't effect anything outside of no longer being locked into an ending
@ZatoichiBattousai
@ZatoichiBattousai 2 года назад
Probably because she is Renna in disguise, and Ranni borrowed her name at the start to confuse the PC and since she wasn't using it at that moment. So many names and so few characters LOL
@Jim-pq9pm
@Jim-pq9pm 4 месяца назад
Maybe a dumb question, but who are the three sisters? If Ranni is one of them, and Renna is another, then this could make sense
@erichrandomstranger1243
@erichrandomstranger1243 Год назад
So she wants death back. That's easy then I'm doing the duskborn ending. Spoilers below Basically you do Fia's questline and eventually you receive an item you can use at the ending to mend the Elden Ring wherein it returns the natural cycle of life and death back to the lands between.
@januarygrey
@januarygrey Год назад
THEORY: Marika is broken becuse the Elden Ring is broken because Marika is the vessel and embodiment of the Elden Ring. So Melina is a part of Marika, the part that is the rune of death, long severed from her being.
@wrathescanor4674
@wrathescanor4674 2 года назад
i dont think melina is the gloam eyed queen... why....if she wants to restore the world...and served the greater will...why in love of god that she wants to burned the ertree..we all know that the ertree is the one that collects the souls to feed it to the greater will...and if she is the gloem eyed queen...why is she did not use it...instead she used the golden order magic or power instead the black flame .if she is the gloam i queen why her followers want to kill us the player tarnished if we are a companion of their queen? i think queen marika banished the tarnished so that they are free from the influence of the greater will...remember queen marika is the one who give the grace to the tarnished and after that she take it away..so that the tarnished can go stronger in the face of death..after the shattering and her imprisonment ..queen marika call again the tarnished so that they brandish the elden ring but after we arrived we are maidenless so (for my theory) she give melina her daughter a purpose..to guide the chosen tarnished to be the one who will be elden lord and brandished the elden ring that had been shattered ...and i think melina is a empyrion(for ny theory) why? cuz only a demi god or empyrion can give a deep threat to us tarnished, meaning she is not a simple maiden like hyetta and in my theory she a chosen by the flames of ruin..why cuz she can use the flame to burn the ertree..no one can use it except the giants...for those who think that melina is ranni or twin or whatever. Remember ranni that we see is not actually ranni..thats ranni`s shell or vessel..its just a doll that look`s like the winter witch her mentor right and that name is renna....and if melina is dead like she said that she is burn and bodiless...how a soul can kill us the tarnished if she is already dead right .....and why melina can go freely in the capital city of lyndell..cuz like she said she is born on the foot of the ertree.....anyway this is my final theory. Remember that queen marika always have 3 children in each husband.. well i include radagon cuz ragadon is marika right...1 entity but 2 personality ...in godfrey she got 3 godwyn the golden and the 2 omen morgott and mohg..in radagon there are 2 childen that`s rhadan,rykard and ranni...in marika and radagon there`s the twins miquela and melenia and i include melina...one more thing..the reason why melina fight like the blacknife assassins cuz they are numen women and her mother is a numen maybe they train melina...i think melina and ranni are friends
@BloodElfofDarkness
@BloodElfofDarkness 2 года назад
If DC/Marvel has taught me anything if you don't actually see someone die they aren't dead lol the camera pulls away as she said's goodbye I didn't see nobody XD Well, a least I hope she didn't die I guy can dream.
@anjuro
@anjuro 2 года назад
One thing that confuses me is how the player ends up in farum azula. Whether you burn Melina or not you just randomly wake up there without explanation. If Melina has some kind of connection to the rune of death then it could maybe explain why she would send you to it, but I don't know why she would do that after you take in the flame of frenzy. The other explanation is that Melina had nothing to do with it but then who could be responsible? It's kind of infuriating how ambiguous it is.
@wolfshade124
@wolfshade124 2 года назад
Or how our character is transported from the Chapel of anticipation to the stranded graveyard, who took us there?. Also, aren't we the travellers from across the fog? When did we crossed it? Even Demons Souls had a better explatation for how we got into Boletaria.
@farzlihakimi8928
@farzlihakimi8928 2 года назад
theory dump ranni and melina is different person..ranni doll body take after his mentor/teacher look..ranni real body probably dont even look like the doll..ranni mentor hold rune of death got defeat by maliket..she probably gloom eye queen..and teach ranni how to kill her body and all that..so melina is the gloom eye queen or her daughter
@zephyrtuvai
@zephyrtuvai 2 года назад
Give that doggo one more tummy rub from me =D
@CrimsonRayne
@CrimsonRayne 2 года назад
why does vare know we are maidenless? my guess is that he killed her in the tower of anticipation to 'push' us towards his beloved blood god.. just like a sneaky thing he would do
@TheSpoartsNetwork
@TheSpoartsNetwork 2 года назад
that you can spare melina, remove the flame of frenzy and she doesn't come back, is really really lame.
@agtjake
@agtjake 2 года назад
It’s because you released the rune of death when you beat Maliketh. Her purpose has been served. That’s why after she sacrificed herself to the flame, she sends you to Farum Azula so you can release destined death.
@Ixxlostinabox
@Ixxlostinabox 2 года назад
I have a theory on Melina and Ranni being twins. When Radagon and Rennala had Ranni, what if the Marika side of Radagon also got pregnant with Melina. Ranni got the R name because she is Radagons child, but Melina got the M name because she is Melinas child. Twins are also knowen to be very close to each other, some people say twins are connected spiritually. Rannis other side could be her twin connection to Melina.
@thefreshvince879
@thefreshvince879 2 года назад
yes
@PhanthomKnight9
@PhanthomKnight9 2 года назад
Now i see, you deny your maidenss purpose
@DavidMartinez-um3yb
@DavidMartinez-um3yb 2 года назад
She'll show up again for boc on his quest line
@HowlingFad03
@HowlingFad03 2 года назад
Melina was once alive and already fulfilled her purpose as a kindling maiden, but died and is subjugated to repeating the process as a phantom guiding new tarnished that venture into the land between. This may be why we find her blade of calling in Leyndell.
@NievesTheWitch
@NievesTheWitch 2 года назад
Step 1: obtain maiden step 2: journey with maiden and chat and have fun step 3: burn maiden and cry step 4: seek new comfort maiden
@jillianmonks5030
@jillianmonks5030 2 года назад
the night of black knives happened before the shattering, though. maliketh already had the rune of death before marika shattered the elden ring
@quaffie
@quaffie 2 года назад
she gave me her speach at the door to the flame of frenzy i burnt her at the forge of the giants i opend the door and became lord of chaos
@gilbes1139
@gilbes1139 2 года назад
The Greater Will uses the Erdtree to feed on the souls of the dead (lore of the various catacombs). When Marika found out (Ofnir alludes to this) she removed death from the Elden Ring (the manifestation of the laws of nature designed by the Greater Will). This messes things up. Melina wants to restore order by restoring death and to free her mother Marika from The Greater Will. Melina only wants to burn the Erdtree after you reach it the first time and sees Radagon sealed it. It was not her original plan. She has no qualms about burring it though, because destroying it is a major blow against The Greater Will.
@ZeroToWealthRedistribution
@ZeroToWealthRedistribution 2 года назад
Unrelated but I really hope if we fight Miquella he references himself as a the ‘Shield of Malenia’ and continues ‘and I have never seen true battle’ or something like his sister lol
@bazah23
@bazah23 2 года назад
Lmao
@adamsirin7249
@adamsirin7249 2 года назад
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold dagger But she ain't hanging with no broke fingers.
@austinling7318
@austinling7318 2 года назад
Cmon bro don't just kneel there give her a hug goodbye. It's just a little fire
@99prxp
@99prxp 2 года назад
tbh i didn't see the elden beasts hands on melina's eyelid at all. looks like a roosters paw to me :P
@vak.o
@vak.o 2 года назад
Godwyn was killed before the shattering. Ranni stole a fragment of the Rune of Death and the night of the black knives happened shortly after where Godwyn was killed, which was the catalyst of the Shattering, whether Ranni ordered the Night of the Black Knives or not is up to debate, but her fragment was certainly the one used to kill Godwyn. Godwyn’s death caused Marika to cause the shattering, then Radagon desperately tried to fix it. Marika was against the Erdtree and the Greater Will, that’s kinda why you literally kill the Elden Beast, which is a messenger of the Greater Will of some sort that is the very incarnation of Order.
@dylanmurray130
@dylanmurray130 2 года назад
But Melina tells us at the Elden throne that she has rejected her purpose upon discovering it. 🤷‍♂️
@vinylghost3864
@vinylghost3864 2 года назад
That's the exact opposite of what she says...
@ashrunzeda4099
@ashrunzeda4099 2 года назад
Not really, in fact, she doubles down on her purpose. After speaking with Shabriri who puts doubt on you and reveals Melina's plans. When you sit in a site of grace, you can talk to Melina about her purpose. She then states along the lines of not being controlled by the Tree or destiny or something but is pursuing her goal in her own free will.
@MrNamenamenamename
@MrNamenamenamename 2 года назад
@@ashrunzeda4099 tbh I think choosing her purpose of her own free will could go either way
@MadAtreides1
@MadAtreides1 2 года назад
5:39 I've always tought her brand was a crow talon, and linked her to the Deathbirds and the Gloam Eyed Queen. Also, why no one ever mention that there is ANOTHER ERDTREE in the land of the dead?
@twentytwenty4632
@twentytwenty4632 2 года назад
I think Melina is a confessor fighting for the will of the two fingers that’s why she tries to kill you if you choose flame of frenzy
@JusticeforLiberty
@JusticeforLiberty 2 года назад
Yeah she offered herself , she offered herself so hard that she set her ass on fire just to progress my quest. She is literally a Lord orbiter. I guess that is why I always go with the fecal feaster's or rannis ending
@softwifi4127
@softwifi4127 27 дней назад
YOU CAN SUMMON MELINA WHEN FIGHTING MOHG????
@ItsGalaxyyz
@ItsGalaxyyz 2 года назад
Wheres the proof that the Gloam Eyed Queen is the protector of the rune of death? This is my problem with these theories about Melina. Theres no evidence to support it. Especially when people say Ranni and Melina are the same. We know Ranni's entire story theres no room for Melina in her lore
@Bubumuk
@Bubumuk 2 года назад
I mean, theories are a lot of "what if...", that's the fun of it. At the end we don't know what the truth is.
@ipeeontheworld
@ipeeontheworld 11 месяцев назад
this whole time i thought Melina is Malenia
@trulyfog
@trulyfog 2 месяца назад
Bro did NOT play elden ring before this comment 😭
@DavidMartinez-um3yb
@DavidMartinez-um3yb 2 года назад
She shows herself for boc
@magnus5612
@magnus5612 2 года назад
in the cavern of the wise at altus there are the killers of the birds of death, and the one on melina is the mark of the claw of the birds of death. melina presumably is the twilight-eyed queen
@mouie5042
@mouie5042 2 года назад
Soo, I made Millicent quest, kill Malenia, got the Miquella's needle but forgot to used it soo I fucked up my ending
@sebastianmorin9780
@sebastianmorin9780 2 года назад
Melina says, “The one who walks alongside the flame shall one day meet the road of destined death.” I think this means she plans to become the next Gloam-eyed Queen. Something that Melina herself didn’t think possible when first following the path Marika set for her. She says “My purpose was given to me by my mother, but now I act of my own volition… this world is in dire need of repair, and death indiscriminate.” Meaning not only is burning the Erdtree what Marika wants, but it is also what the first Gloam-eyed Queen did in order to become an Empyrean and discovered the Rune of Death by doing so. Once we separate the rune from Maliketh, and Melina has burned away her flesh she finds the rune and claims destined death as the New Gloam-eyed Queen. The dead eye is something I haven’t fully come to understand, this is either because she is still a part of Marika and Radagon, and that part has since died, or it is a sign that Melina has ascended to the level of an Empyrean. Perhaps the first Gloam-eyed Queen had one dead eye and one gloamy one too.
@dibi8600
@dibi8600 Месяц назад
melina is that tree. tree gone, she gone
@dragonslayerteo5756
@dragonslayerteo5756 2 года назад
What if Ranni is actually Renna and Melina is actually Ranni?
@Azr4el
@Azr4el 2 года назад
Well of course the Erdtree feeds form struggle it literally grow from the corpses of the catacombs, they say they go back to the Erdtree as they die so naturally The Greater Will/Fingers/Golden Order wants people to not die naturally but to become nourishment for the tree instead. Maybe Marika didn't want that anymore that's why she did everything and maybe she IS Melina too or at least created her.
@AhzekAhrimanOne
@AhzekAhrimanOne 2 года назад
This game, this lore man its like a gift from the Gods to play this game. Timeless legend, game of the year forever. I am 250 hours in lvl 410 and I keep replaying over and over, I just cant get enough of its mysterious universe. I cant wait for the DLC!! I hope they take it to a cosmic horror level, outer beast, like those black shades in the game that I only seen 3 of them so far, they hide in shadows scary looking, or like the elden beast. I also love your videos brother they are amazing!
@David-ez1fp
@David-ez1fp 2 года назад
Thats really tragic. She helps the character from the very beginning, giving them all the tools they need and places to visit. Goes against the kingdom she was once part of... just to kill herself to give you a chance to end it all and make things right. If there was ever a meaningful death in this game, thats it
@jovanni_orb5116
@jovanni_orb5116 2 года назад
I think it is likely she killed our maiden. She does this to use us to get her to the ears tree. Her ability to help us grow stronger is a great offer that we would not accept if we had a maiden. She also has more of an ability to get to the starting area where our maiden was waiting with her ghost powers than other characters.
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 2 года назад
Ive been thinking about why our maiden is dead too. And yet we still get to be guided by grace? But I don't think its melina since the intro cutscene makes it like she "stumbled" onto us and we were lucky. This to me says she found us because we can be guided by grace. Torrent sees it right away but melina waits a bit as it takes a couple graces for her to visit you. But who kills our maiden is probably related to marika's motives. I say this because marika shatters the ring, by shattering it no one can become lord right away, the Lord Rune discription says that once the ring was shattered, the would-be lords lost their way. Maybe that's why marika shattered the ring. To stop anyone from replacing Godwyn as lord. Maybe to stall until she finds someone that would have her motives inmind perhaps. If(i stess if here but most likely is the case but im still having trouble with it) we go further with this line of thought and say that she was with the black knives as they are all numan. The numan coming from the eternal city who are nox. They worship the night, wnd are waiting fornits return. Coincidentally enough ranni's fate is to being back the night. We confirm this by not just her association with the moon but rennala pleads after we beat her that ranni bring back the night amd sella says that radahn holding the stars is keeping rannis fate from continuing. This would mean that if marika is also part of this plot she is stalling till someone will come along and help ranni or at the very least defeat radahn (as well as radagon to become lord? Something just doesn't add up unless we go with split personalities here) melina is the key to letting her chosen tarnished inside the tree by burning it down as noone else could enter before and fix what she started. The main issue with this thoery for me is that there is no guarantee you find ranni and do her quest, and if you do her quest ranni kills marika in her ending just feels odd (unless that needed to be done to completely severe the order from the lands between) but she does introduce herself to you saying she is doing so because she was entrusted to give you the bell cause of torrents former master. Like she sees you have grace, so that means you are being helped by marika(maybe) then she says learn the land well and alludes to not following the fingers for long, like she is trying to instigate that you find her where she is hiding away and second guess the fingers direction.
@ishmaelkalim9405
@ishmaelkalim9405 2 года назад
More tummy rubs for Joy on my behalf.♥️
@shivanshu6204
@shivanshu6204 2 года назад
Idk why people think she's the gloam eyed queen. It's much more convincing that she's a daughter of Marika and Radagon, especially since it would make the third set of children be a triplet, all of whom are cursed unlike the other six. Miquella has eternal childhood, Malenia the scarlet rot, and Melina a burned, bodiless existence. She even says her mother lives inside the erdtree ffs.
@Nina-lf3st
@Nina-lf3st 2 года назад
I gotta be honest, I know her eye brand people have also said crows foot which looks about right too and makes sense, but in the beginning I legit thought it was a dragons claw. Also after all the bitterness in the lands between of losing people and then Melina in her selfless last moments, that burned my heart to a crisp and I finally had it. That's why I said screw whatever order, screw this world entirely, I'm marrying my new moon wife and dipping out to the night sky for our honeymoon lol bye
@marcoscarrasco92
@marcoscarrasco92 2 года назад
Are we sure Melina didn't kill our intended Finger Maiden when we enter the Lands Between? You know, the very first corpse we find in the starting area. If she did, that would give her the perfect excuse to approach us and offer to serve as a Maiden for us.
@lamozlamozovich3843
@lamozlamozovich3843 2 года назад
Melina: "This world needs a Destined Death so the only way to do it is me getting cooked in the biggest pot in LandsBetween" Tarnished: "Bullshit" *puts on AirPods with MainTheme ost and does The Reverse Chaos ending*
@renefelipe922
@renefelipe922 2 года назад
Does someone know what tf is that red thing piercing marika body?
@s0meRand0m129
@s0meRand0m129 2 года назад
Longinus Lance
@GothicXlightning
@GothicXlightning 2 года назад
it does.. kinda feels like a sort of Dark souls game when you add the firelink shrine theme on it hey? i wander why.. well i been putting lots of Castlevania songs in the background since i been roleplaying Trevor Belmont and Simon Belmont in it since i started playing Elden ring
@jpain5986
@jpain5986 2 года назад
Has anyone let her burn them do frenzied flame ending? Does she still show up
@rocki_bb
@rocki_bb 2 года назад
She rises up with the opposite eye open, it's purple, and tells you she's going to kill you
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 2 года назад
I have not, but I’ve heard that she doesn’t show up.
@courtneycherry5582
@courtneycherry5582 2 года назад
My boyfriend did she doesn't show up you kill the fire Giant and then you catch fire
@SageStudiesGunnarFooth
@SageStudiesGunnarFooth 2 года назад
Yep, she does not show up. YOU do the burning. My theory is that the Gloam-Eyed Queen is her mom, who was imprisoned in the Erdtree after her defeat by Maliketh and gets released in the FF ending. “As sure as night follows day” sure sounds like a reference to twilight, which “gloam” is another word for. I’m not convinced Melina is the same person who shows up in the FF ending, though. The hair color, eye color, hair style, and tattoo are all different.
@jpain5986
@jpain5986 2 года назад
@@SageStudiesGunnarFooth dang I thought we might have stumbled onto a 7th ending lol
@ianmcpherson2171
@ianmcpherson2171 2 года назад
There's an item description that talks about a "Kindling Maiden" I mean... That has to be her right? Created specifically to burn the Erdtree.
@Tomp4ul
@Tomp4ul 2 года назад
You know what would send me absolutely insane with joy? DLC which varies what you do in it, depending on how you completed the game.
@datlamahorn
@datlamahorn 2 года назад
I think you shouldve mentioned that she is also the Kindling Maiden wich is stated in the description of the blade of calling wich is the weapon melina used against morgott and its stated that this weapon belonged to the Kindling Maiden alongside a Citation: "The one who walks alongside Flame shall one day meet the road of destined Death." This Citation is written in the description of blade of calling and this where also Melinas last words. So she is the Kindling Maiden and my theory is that she is Marikas daughter cause Melina tells us that her Mother gave her a purpose IN THE ERDTREE and this was prob. Part of Marikas perfect Plan to test the greater Will and so Marika wanted to see if another person could become Elden Lord.
@tweakxyv
@tweakxyv 2 года назад
Can u do a video on the elden beast
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