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What Is Farum Azula? 

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@agtjake
@agtjake Год назад
So I feel like I need to clarify this since everyone keeps commenting the exact same thing. I know and understand you can see Farum Azula from Malenias Divine Tower. But like I said in the video, it could be in a different state when looking from far away than when we actually go there. Just like with the Roundtable.
@williamfryer8460
@williamfryer8460 Год назад
What about continental drift moving the Lands Between physically out from under Farum Azula?
@bencekmeczik6595
@bencekmeczik6595 Год назад
You can go to Farum Azula via The Four Belfries too, so it's definitely in the physical world, just like the other two destinations. Also, there are too Roundtables in the game, one in the Capital and one on the corner of the map. Now it could be argued that they are the same hold, just in different times, but the important thing is, that there's only one Farum azula on the whole map. So it's not just like the Roundtable...
@MuertaEterna
@MuertaEterna Год назад
It's not in a dream state at all. It existed outside reality in its own dimension, an ancient catastrophic event most likely being the arrival of the Elden Beast caused it to be forced into the same reality as the rest of the world. That being said placidusaax lives in the storm beyond time. A fragment of the old dragon realm
@arabidllama
@arabidllama Год назад
I think the Roundtable Hold having its own map location is significant - the implication is that you're actually *in* that crumbling city you see in the distance. There's also a lot of emphasis on just how *old* Farum Azula is and how it's been crumbling a long time. Not that this disproves the dream theory, but I think the evidence is very thin. My poorly-supported theory - I think Stormveil used to be a land of flying cities/temples when the Stormlord was in charge. An inevitable part of his/its defeat was the collapse of the temples, without the stormlord to hold them up / channel Placidusax's power / whatever. Gurranq can be in two places because he holds a great rune, and that lets you do that (see: Margit)
@daxfer2945
@daxfer2945 Год назад
I don't know why no one has commented this maybe it's dumb, but time travel or time bubble. That could be why for many of the ruins and things outside farum azula
@AdrianArmbruster
@AdrianArmbruster Год назад
One theory I like is that Faram Azula is a timeless prison that people who commit cardinal sins are sent to. Hence the teleportation once you burn the Erdtree. Alexander apparently tried bathing in the giant's fire to temper his jar, thus comiting a similar sin almost by accident and winding up there as well.
@xmrmoneyxkillez9142
@xmrmoneyxkillez9142 8 месяцев назад
I like this idea it reminds me of the hunters nightmare from blood borne except of being a murderous hunter you break a a great rule that must be punished accordingly
@sergeysmyshlyaev9716
@sergeysmyshlyaev9716 8 месяцев назад
Farum Azula = horny jail
@thebruh1883
@thebruh1883 6 месяцев назад
This actually sounds pretty likely. Itd also explain why maliketh is there, as his sin was not protecting the rune of death well enough (he talks about sin when you give him deathroot)
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 5 месяцев назад
That’s why the foreskin duo are there, shitty design
@parrish8854
@parrish8854 5 месяцев назад
See, this is the kind of lore that should be included in the game itself. People praise FS for their storytelling, but in my opinion they can do even better. Sometimes more is more.
@Fluffy_hazmat
@Fluffy_hazmat Год назад
Hey uh. In the isolated divine tower in leyndell, the one for rykard you can actually see farum azula in the distance.
@Gante_Gato
@Gante_Gato Год назад
I believe it's Malenia's tower, but yes. Also the belfry teleporter
@quianox1218
@quianox1218 Год назад
idk if he didn’t do enough research or smthing but some things in the video just aren’t right even with some speculation like the reason the frenzied flame can be stopped in his arena is due to time being stopped there not because the three fingers are the dragons god
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman Год назад
@@quianox1218 wait , the three fingers are Placediusax’s god? When was THAT on the table???
@vernonsmith7345
@vernonsmith7345 Год назад
@@Darth_Bateman they aren't, the current theory is that the full hand of the greater will(5 fingers) was split into order(2 fingers) and chaos(3 fingers), and that the 5 fingers was the god of the dragons
@Shaiath
@Shaiath Год назад
I was going to say; you can see the waterfall at the eastern edge of the world, from the western side of FA. I may be mistaken, but I think you also see parts of the mainland? I'll have to load up my file, but i recall seeing the tower and the edge of Calid and Altus.
@TheGreatRakatan
@TheGreatRakatan Год назад
“The one who walks alongside flame” is whatever Tarnished takes Melina to the Erdtree. She is the flame that walks along with us, the one destined to burn the thorns of the Erdtree
@christiankettlewell
@christiankettlewell Год назад
Or it’s the Flame of Frenzy. That description comes from her weapon. She encourages you to burn the Erdtree, but she swears to kill you once you have the Flame of Frenzy. She could easily be the Gloam-Eyed Queen’s daughter
@curupiraha50anos75
@curupiraha50anos75 Год назад
Or anyone with the flame of ambition
@timothyridgway5916
@timothyridgway5916 10 месяцев назад
@@christiankettlewellonly because she knows that the 3 fingers are chaos. They are necessary to the order of the lands between, but they are not to have full reign as everything would be cast into ruin eternally.
@ludeklozek563
@ludeklozek563 9 месяцев назад
Isn't it possible that she refers to herself? Since she walked alongside flame(which i think is the ritual she does to burn the erdtree) thus meeting her Destined Death. And if you do it with the frenzied flame, she swears she will deliver yours.
@felygu9268
@felygu9268 9 месяцев назад
I think you are right, since she is the KINDLING maiden ;)
@binbows2258
@binbows2258 Год назад
Dragonlord Placidusax isn't waiting on the Three Fingers. The Three Fingers' whole thing is that they want to destroy the world with the Flame of Frenzy. Dragonlord Placidusax was previously the Elden Lord in ancient times, and if he was the Lord of Frenzy, then the entire world would have been destroyed before we even got to play the game. The Three Fingers weren't imprisoned below the capital at all, either. What actually happened is the nomadic merchants were imprisoned below the capital, and then they summoned the Three Fingers and the Flame of Frenzy as some sort of desperate attempt at retaliation against the Golden Order which imprisoned them. That's why all merchants use frenzy incantations and when they die they say "Melt away with the rest of it..." Also, Farum Azula is not in a dream. Farum Azula is a physical place which is visible from certain tall landmarks/towers around the map. It does not exist outside of time either. Farum Azula is a physical place that merely has anti-gravity properties. Dragonlord Placidusax's arena is the only aspect which is outside of time itself. It is the only area which can not be viewed from the outside, either. It is the only area where time is manipulated in order to reach. Miquella's needle is used to shut out the influence of any outer god. Miquella's needle only works outside of time due to its function not being complete/perfected. Miquella's needle isn't specifically for getting rid of the Flame of Frenzy. It works on any outer god, and would work in any area as long as its outside of time. Miquella's needle can also be used to cure Millicent's scarlet rot. The fact that Miquella's needle's function only works in the Dragonlord's arena is merely a coincidence.
@Shane-gg3hl
@Shane-gg3hl Год назад
Not a coincidence as the Dragon lord's arena is the only place that not affected by time or any outer Gods, that we have access to atleast. but 100% spot on all other points.
@thanus6636
@thanus6636 Год назад
How do you explain Gurranq being alive after killing Maliketh if Farum Azula isn’t outside of time.
@snatchnefkin
@snatchnefkin Год назад
@@thanus6636 it has been suggested that something happened to farum azula that moved it outside of time. But I disagree with the video where he says it's "in the tarnished's head." It is a physical place, not some metaphysical concept of self lol.
@Ryan13489
@Ryan13489 Год назад
@@thanus6636 if you actually complete Gurranq's quest he won't be there. Folk are simply confused because they don't finish his quest. That he remains after the Malikath fight is an oversight by FromSoft. Complete the quest, go fight Maliketh, and he won't be at the Bestial Sanctuary
@thanus6636
@thanus6636 Год назад
@@Ryan13489 I highly doubt this would have been an oversight. If you kill Morgott before Margit, Margit will no longer appear at stormveil gate.
@MisterDragon
@MisterDragon Год назад
My biggest issue with Farum Azula's dream or altered representation or such is the presence of tangible NPCs like Alexander, Gurranq/Maliketh, and Bernahl being there. Especially Alexander's journey there more than any other, convinces me that we're in the actual real Farum Azula because Maliketh is a divine being in a sense and Bernahl literally assists or invades you but Alexander is just straight up physically, tangibly there. Another solid point is that there is a waygate in Liurnia that goes there with an imbued swordstone key.
@shadowcyberdemon8776
@shadowcyberdemon8776 Год назад
There's a theory that the Greater Will repurposed Farum Azula into a prison for beings that commit a cardinal sins, Alexander and Bernahl probably committed a cardinal sin at some point. That would also explain the banished knights.
@JR--15
@JR--15 Год назад
@@shadowcyberdemon8776 that would also explain why we’re instantly teleported there after burning the erdtree
@bananabanana485
@bananabanana485 Год назад
And the sword from the crucible knight in redmane castle
@Mockle07
@Mockle07 Год назад
It isn’t in the character’s head, that’s just a massive reach of head cannon. It’s clearly a real, physical place so I’m not sure why anyone is even discussing it 🤷🏼‍♂️
@NickPotatoes
@NickPotatoes 10 месяцев назад
@Mockle07 Because that's what the Souls community does, there have been many wrong theories in the community, but it's not a bad thing. If anything presenting a theory and having people provide evidence to the contrary is just solidifying what we do know about the world of Elden Ring. Also, it's just fun idk
@kalzero3319
@kalzero3319 Год назад
You can actually see Farum Azula from one of the Divine Towers. I believe it's the one where we awaken Malenias Great Rune. It's the divine tower that we can get to by using the teleport chest on the Southern Peninsula. Instead of opening the door to the tower just turn around and look East. It's actually a really cool site so I highly recommend checking it out.
@reckless1216
@reckless1216 Год назад
Same thing I said. You can see it and the tornado
@SMT-ks8yp
@SMT-ks8yp Год назад
Also the random ruins scattered everywhere look like fallen pieces of Farum Azula, because what purpose would they have otherwise, being built there as the blocks they are?
@ilikestew5719
@ilikestew5719 Год назад
You can see it from Morgotts too
@aepet22
@aepet22 Год назад
100% this
@jake_
@jake_ Год назад
The rocks around Farum Azula look like the ones levitating around and over the crater in Limgrave, after the battle with Radahn. If i remember correctly, Farum Azula was hit by a meteor/star and parts of the buildings fell and littered with ruins all the map.
@milky287
@milky287 Год назад
I also disagree about the whole dream concepts, there’s other tarnished on the floating city, like that one guy you meet in volcanic manor that help you to kill godskin duo. Or just the godskins themselves who is likely also there to kill malekith to restore their black flame. The place feels very real and alive, and all these very much alive other beings somehow being in your dream just don’t really make sense
@soulsilver1324
@soulsilver1324 Год назад
@@bathsaltshero You fight Fia’s champions as soon as you approach Fia in the deeproot depths. You cannot interact with her there at all until you kill them. In other words you can’t enter her dream until after that fight. The only living thing in her dream is Litchdragon Fortisax.
@uglahboi6074
@uglahboi6074 7 месяцев назад
You could argue that the “dream” locations are places of shared conscience, but I agree that the theory is shaky at best.
@DarkTranqz
@DarkTranqz 2 месяца назад
FA is definitely not a dreamscape. You can literally see it from the mainland and vice versa. It is very much intended to be a real tangible place where the Great One (five fingers) used to preside over Placidusax, before it split into two (the Two and Three finger entities of order and chaos), unknowingly, to Placidusax. Because iirc he believes the Great One just fled, or left, which is why he was still there waiting for it to return.
@ghoulishgoober3122
@ghoulishgoober3122 Год назад
2:11 Enia, the lady you buy boss weapons from, tells you just before or after you burn the Erdtree that the Rune of Death goes by two names. The other being Destined Death.
@revoltzzz1178
@revoltzzz1178 Год назад
Ever wonder why Farum Azula is “doomed” or “slowly crumbling”? Well, I think this is because of the law of entropy - or in the Lands Between interpretation of it - the One Great which originally consisted of five fingers, is now broken up into 2 fingers representing Order, and 3 fingers representing Chaos. This one extra digit for Chaos, could mean it’s ever so slightly prevailing, hence the purgatory-like state of a slowly crumbling place that was originally ruled by the One Great. For all we know, Farum Azula could very well have been a temple, a place of worship, where as you can see on the wall carvings, knights are worshipping the Ancient Dragons, whose lord is Placidusax, first Elden Lord - the entire faction probably being Apostles of the One Great Outer God.
@greanbeen2816
@greanbeen2816 Год назад
As the fundamentalists put it, the law of causality
@greanbeen2816
@greanbeen2816 Год назад
@@fredscoffeeThe fingers themselves aren’t what split though. It was the Greater Will and the Frenzied flame. 2 fingers are the servants of GW, 3 fingers are servant of FF. And Farum Azula seems to imply a significance of 5 fingers- a sign of Beasts’ intelligence. Besides that, we see a version of the Elden Ring in Maliketh’s boss arena that appears to be different from the one Marika/Radagon possesses. Placidusax’s remembrance mentions that he “awaited the return of his god” which may have been the One Great, eventually splitting the symbol of 5 fingers to the symbols of 2 and 3 respectively.
@trippymlgjunkrat5749
@trippymlgjunkrat5749 Год назад
The only issue is every demigod had a 2 fingers
@drewcifer69
@drewcifer69 Год назад
Listen, if I saw a coffin at the end of a river of rot inside a temple of parasite monsters... I'd crawl inside too. Another great vid Jake, keep it up
@runningoutofnames6956
@runningoutofnames6956 Год назад
The forbidden waterslide
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 Год назад
Yeah, I mean... who wouldn't? It's basic common sense. 🤣
@Fraxxxi
@Fraxxxi Год назад
"I'm out of healing, wading through literal rot-water, and man-sized roaches are spitting strands of goo at my back. I am so frickin' dead I may as well just accept it with grace and step into my future coffi... owo, what's this..."
@ninjahattori7576
@ninjahattori7576 Год назад
^^^ Sanest Souls-borne Enjoyer
@crothschild
@crothschild Год назад
It's called "intuition"
@yvngvudu
@yvngvudu Год назад
If you go to the "isolated tower" you can see farum azula way off in the distance
@redglintstonescholar7605
@redglintstonescholar7605 Год назад
I think the dragons had the five finger god, still being the Greater Wills whole hand in a sense. But at a point, the hands are split into order and chaos. As for time, light and gold have represented time in other souls games, ancient dragon smithing stones hint to the same. Also note that roundtable to seems to be a almost statis. Also note it’s via Marika statues and signs that are in the shape of her rune that allow us to be summoned and rebirth at sights of grace. And in the past souls games summons signs are literally pulling someone from a point in time.
@damianford2637
@damianford2637 Год назад
going off of the thought of a combined light and dark, i wonder if the gloom eyed queen was another contender for thanking the throne after plasidusax
@redglintstonescholar7605
@redglintstonescholar7605 Год назад
@@damianford2637 I’ll say this, the twin death birds fit for a envoy similar to the Elden beast. And the elden beast needs the sacred relic sword, or a Fingerslaying blade. So this twin death bird could have potentially used the GEQ as the Fingerslaying blade. The Nox are labeled as MarikasLineage in the games AI files. And the Fingerslaying blade is a ancient treasure of the eternal cities. And you can go into how Marika and the black knives and Numens then link to the eternal city. And it’s Maliketh, who uses the very weapon that speaks of the five fingers when not using his black blade that defeated the gloam eyed queen. Would explain also how Melina can be Marikas daughter but also a sorta the gloam eyed queen aka host to the same outer god as OG the GEQ once was
@jayhayhay5124
@jayhayhay5124 Год назад
The five finger god got split up when the walmart-in-between caught them shoplifting.
@CausalityUsurper
@CausalityUsurper Год назад
Nahh, he's waiting on an outer god that fled the greater will. Remember the fingers are just envoys of an outer god. I think the greater will split chaos (3fingers) from itself for absolute order and control over its influence in the lands between. Remember the frenzied flame ending just fucking rapes everything which is antithetical to what the greater will seems to wish to accomplish within the game workd.
@Terminalsanity
@Terminalsanity 10 месяцев назад
@@CausalityUsurper Or maybe he's waiting for his waifu God who was once a vessel to the Elden Ring seeing as you know he's was an Elden Lord but they're never coming back back because they were usurped and replaced by Marika. Note how the Age of the Crucible that preceded the Age of the Erdtree was marked by Red Gold the very same Red Gold that Marks the Lightning wielded by the Ancient Dragons.I suspect that's why Godwyn and his dragon cult were allowed to be integrated into the Golden because for all intents and purposes the Dragons had just a part of a previous iteration of it. I also suspect Marika having witnessed the Greater will abandon and replace the previous vessel and of the previous age, specifically removed the rune of death from the Elden Ring avoid a similar fate at the hands of the Gloam Eyed-Queen who was said to be an Empyrean chosen by the two fingers, I mean we know the Greater Will planned to potentially replace Marika with Ranni so it the notion is well established in lore that the Greater will can replace its chosen God and vessel for the Elden Ring.
@SoI_Badguy
@SoI_Badguy Год назад
I think the Dragonlord's God was the One Great, or the original form of the 2 and 3 fingers. The symbolism of the beastmen having FIVE fingers seems super significant, and the "old version" of the Elden Ring you see in farum azula? The one people say looks like it has roots? I don't think those are roots. They look like flames. I think that the Greater Will is a fractured part of the One Great, which for whatever reason chose Marika (or perhaps she had a hand in dividing the outer God), as she is a Numen and likely came from Farum Azula. There was some form of coup, where the greater will rejected the chaotic half of the one great and forced it underground in order to maintain order. Also, the idea of an Outer God that is equal parts order and chaos, that exists in a city that is falling apart and crumbling, but always STAYS in that chaotic state, never really changing? Seems like a good fit to me.
@stuartcarter4139
@stuartcarter4139 Год назад
I think Numen just means “new man” and is actually the precursor to humans as we know them now in the Lands between. I think they were basically what happens when Beastmen were born “outside of the grace” of the crucible (the reverse of what happens with Omen now). This is all wild speculation though. To accompany this idea though: I actually think those are roots, and that they represent the crucible (which is now the deep root that the Erdtree grows out of and modifies), which is responsible for the beastmen being, well, beast and man, until the Golden Order excludes the crucible, so now everyone is born more or less in the form of the Numen, though, since they’re “second gen” they’re not as powerful (like Albinaurics). But basically now that the crucible is excluded from grace via the Golden Order, no roots in the Elden Ring. What’s really cool is that you can see Miquella’s great rune in the Elden Ring. There’s no one else it could belong to, it looks just like his needle.
@Shane-gg3hl
@Shane-gg3hl Год назад
@@stuartcarter4139 Miquella's Great Rune? The Rune of Abundance is Cut content that may or may not be used in future DLC so no use speculating on that aspect.
@stuartcarter4139
@stuartcarter4139 Год назад
@@Shane-gg3hl yes, miquella’s great rune tbh i think there’s ONLY use speculating on future content because then we get to see who’s right hahaha
@TempestRequiem0
@TempestRequiem0 Год назад
Almost certain Melina was talking about herself when she gave her final speech. Essentially saying this was her inevitable end and bidding you farewell.
@jasonrobinson401
@jasonrobinson401 8 месяцев назад
Only question, how does she threaten you in the frenzied flame ending of she's met her destined death already? Perhaps it's the same reason she "yet lives, burned and bodiless", in her words, though that would make it more than "be kindling maiden". Wen TF dlc Miyazaki? I need the answers, WE need the answers.
@arcstaff
@arcstaff 8 месяцев назад
​@@jasonrobinson401if you inherit the frenzied flame and become lord of frenzied flame AFTER using her to burn the erdtree, her cutscene does not appear
@jasonrobinson401
@jasonrobinson401 8 месяцев назад
@@arcstaff ahh, so she still is alive at the end if you burn yourself instead, then use the needle to pick another ending. She still won't talk to us anymore though, I thought that was exactly what the celestial dew was for? Is that just an oversight then? It kinda looks like one.
@arcstaff
@arcstaff 8 месяцев назад
@@jasonrobinson401 yeah she's still alive if you do that but she leaves you permanently as soon as you're embraced by the three fingers
@chocolatecrud
@chocolatecrud Год назад
There’s a great deal of symbolism regarding the beast men that emphasizes 5 fingers; 2 fingers + 3 fingers = 5 fingers, perhaps the original one great before the greater will from the age before the red tree. Placidusax even had 5 heads originally as evidenced by his 3 severed stumps. It really does seem like Farum Azula was the Lyndell from a time before the One Great was divided, or “fled”.
@tylerchitmanotham3913
@tylerchitmanotham3913 Год назад
Also… what if those dream states are actually like inside Godwyns mind or memory? Like when we go into “fias” dream what if she just kinda tapped into godwyn which is why we fight his dragon friend😂
@capshep99
@capshep99 Год назад
The sky is lined with his eyes in that fight. I was wondering the same thing because if that.
@MrBigSpuds12
@MrBigSpuds12 Год назад
@@micahbell9412 tell us what it is, not what it isn't.
@tylerchitmanotham3913
@tylerchitmanotham3913 Год назад
@@micahbell9412 just let the neurodivergents have their fun theorizing come on😂
@exxy9931
@exxy9931 Год назад
@ 11:18, something I've tried pointing out to others since the beginning is that you only have the guidance of Grace until you get to Farum Azula (if you look at the map, you can see little directional queues from the sites of grace but they stop after you kill the Fire Giant; there are none of the directional queues in Farum Azula). Glad you kinda touched on that.
@its_nuked
@its_nuked Год назад
I never noticed that what :O Thanks! Spread the word yo ^^
@shinfil3737
@shinfil3737 Год назад
Does anyone find it ironic that in Dark Souls 1-3 the lore clearly states that Gwyn developed Lightning Miracles, with Seath's help, to kill the Dragons, but in Elden Ring the Dragons are the ones clad in lightning and grant you lightning powers after dying?
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 Год назад
My take on the walk alongside flame thing was that the "flame" is referring to Melina, as she is the kindling maiden The point is that at the end of your journey with Melina, you will reach the way towards Destined Death Also, Guranqq is supposedly howling at the Erdtree, where Marika is held prisoner since he's likely still able to sense her, but can do nothing about it As for the ruins, it does make sense to think that the ruins scattered all over the ground are from Farum Azula, since you can also get the ruins fragments and sanctuary stones from the debris under the Bestial Sanctum. But I'd like to think that there was another city in the sky besides Farum Azula, and that city was the one that was stuck by the meteor mentioned in the Ruins Greatsword. Perhaps it is the kingdom of the Sun alluded to in one of skeletons shield? To add to the above, I'd like to think that Farum Azula was once on the ground, filling the space between North Caelid and the Mountaintops, as you can see a waterfall in the middle of the ocean between those areas, which may have hinted that some landmass was there before it suddenly disappeared. This would also help explain why there are giant dogs and birds in both Caelid and the Mountaintops, as well as the gigantic skeletons that are only found in this two regions. It would make some sense if it was once connected for these creatures to mingle in both areas
@thedeathofreason
@thedeathofreason Год назад
'Elden Ring the most confusing lore ever' Kingdom Hearts series: "Hold my beer."
@mrmastaofdesasta6994
@mrmastaofdesasta6994 Год назад
Something that speaks against Melina teleporting us to Farum Azula is that we end up there, even if we burn the Erdtree ourselves using the Frenzied Flame.
@billyjoel4497
@billyjoel4497 Год назад
7:18 you can also physically see Farom azula form a distance at melania’s tower. I believe it might have something to do with the subtle connection between Melania and Maliketh with Maliketh having a similar special attack with wildly swinging consecutive hits. Also that the beast clergyman (Maliketh) being found in the caelid wilds. And if you wanna get real wacky with it, there’s an interesting link between Melania, Melina, Maliketh and Miquella what with all their names not only being similar but with Meliketh and Melina having a connection with destined death and Melania being the “blade of Miquella” having that connection to eternal youth. Kind of a yin Yang if you will. It’s made more interesting when you consider that both associated areas with Miquella and Melania are optional and hidden away. Specifically branching away from the greater will and the golden order
@tylerchitmanotham3913
@tylerchitmanotham3913 Год назад
I really enjoy your videos my man, and it’s great to follow along and kinda unwind this story. Elden ring is my first souls game and the community is great! Keep up the great work
@tjniezek3096
@tjniezek3096 Год назад
Another awesome video man !!! I have become a big fan , I like the way you break things down. Your production value is getting better with every video . You give us lore lovers something to look forward to , thanks again and keep em coming !!!
@lucamorello_guardiansoul
@lucamorello_guardiansoul Год назад
The dragons god isn't surely the three fingers, the three fingers were summoned after the golden order captured and forced below the city all the merchants because Shabriri had accused them of being followers of the frenzy flame. The other remaining gods are the Giant's one, but I'm not sure if it can return after we slay the last fire giant, and the two headed bird of the death birds who is at the moment missing (the bird's god could be rappresented by the four fingers like the items they drop, and that most think brought bad luck). This would start to make sense if we see the look at the arrival of the gods in the lands between in a decrescent order : 5 finger(beast/dragon), 4 fingers (death birds/storm hawks), 3 fingers (Shabriri/first traveling humans), 2 fingers (civilized humans and society), 1 finger (perhaps the newborn god of the giants? The only one that could harm the erdtree?)
@lonelyspacebean
@lonelyspacebean Год назад
Your lore videos are some of the best and some of my favorite out there. The streams are amazing too :D
@biggiecheese726
@biggiecheese726 Год назад
I always thought the reason we get teleported to Farum Azula was because we burned down the Erdtree, which is a cardinal sin and that the Golden Order wanted to punish us somehow
@ybnnuggz4872
@ybnnuggz4872 Год назад
You got my sub👍🏽 I know lore in elden ring is getting scarce but the way you put it in your own words and described it to us is worth my sub. I’ve watched a few of your videos and I enjoy your content and not just the videos about new findings in the game but how you tell the backstory in a way that makes the game feel fresh. It’s made me want to explore more and potentially find things that might alter the way we see the lands between.
@kalle3940
@kalle3940 Год назад
As a side note, Gehrmans theme always gets to me a bit. It's a truly heartbreaking piece. When I was a kid, I could have never imagined this would be video game music.
@MrJon1157
@MrJon1157 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad i wasn't the only one who noticed it
@mafiaben12
@mafiaben12 Год назад
Also on farm azula location, if u use one of the portals at the four belfries it takes u to a far outer part of farum and u can see the beastial sanctum and cliffs in the distance, I feel like the ruin fragments around the lands between were flung from the far east
@algooriginal2560
@algooriginal2560 Год назад
if you go towards the Isolated divinte tower, where Milenia's great rune is, you can actually see Farum azula in the distance.
@shawnaash
@shawnaash Год назад
I love your videos, please keep it up! It makes my playthrough so so much better
@alexanderayotte8867
@alexanderayotte8867 Год назад
Being a studio ghibli fellow the first thought I had with farum Azula was it’s similarity to Laputa from castle in the sky. I believe the golems are also a reference to it. As are the the bits a pieces all over the world that have fallen off the city. I don’t thinks it’s a dream so much as a crumbling vestment of the previous order. Its also almost completely inaccessible which makes it a great place to hide things. I wouldn’t be suprised if the dynasty merika usurped was once headed there . It would make sense that the center of the dragons power would be in the sky.
@josephstranczek7523
@josephstranczek7523 Год назад
I think that the outer god of placidusax is in fact the Greater Will, just at a different time. This comes from two pieces of lord. The first being that Placidusax is specifically called an Elden Lord. This means that the dragon wielded the Elden Ring, which is a manifestation of the Elden Beasts power, which is a vassal of the Greater Will. The second piece of evidence is that the Greater Will may not have fled, but may have in fact abandoned the dragons. The fact that the Greater Will abandoned the demigods, and it’s apathy towards the Lands Between afterwards, seems to suggest that so long as “order” is present, it does not truly care who is in charge, and most likely abandoned the dragons because they were either a lost cause, as with the demigods, or simply saw a better option, which could lead into the rise of Marika to godhood.
@BlueSoul03
@BlueSoul03 Год назад
What a beautiful lore video, this is absolutely incredible and interesting video. I wish you the absolute best AGT, don’t let anyone bring you down! ❤️
@deep_amok
@deep_amok Год назад
To me, it makes more sense that Melena is referring to herself rather than the forge when she calls us the "one who walks alongside flame."
@payday7679
@payday7679 Год назад
The dragons didn’t lose their “outer god” they lost their equivalent of Marika and likey they also served the greater will as they can coexist with the golden order that derived from it
@_infinite_8852
@_infinite_8852 Год назад
Videos are great bro keep up the grind. I truly believe your channel will pop to high levels
@laytey22
@laytey22 Год назад
such a great video! love your lore content
@anthem_sm
@anthem_sm Год назад
The flame melina talks about is also the frenzied flame, she means that whoever gets possessed by the frenzied flame must die.
@claytonbigsby6911
@claytonbigsby6911 Год назад
The Stormhawk King God is responsible for the winds of around stormveil, (check the item des. of the Stormhawk King) not Farum Azula, but i do think it was all up there in the sky at one point
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 Год назад
It was most likely above Caelid. The Farum Greatbridge and the Beastly Sanctum have the same architecture as Farum Azula.
@ysmirnorth9752
@ysmirnorth9752 Год назад
Ur videos r great and informative, ty for that. Keep it up bro. Awesome video, I love that area of the game.
@infernotitan1158
@infernotitan1158 Год назад
Ever since I'd first gone through Farum Azula in my first playthrough, I've wanted to know *WHY* it's hanging in the air, half destroyed, but seemingly held together by the twister at its heart. This crumbling city is my favorite location in the entire game, and the more I find out about it, the more I'm drawn to it. Thank you for a fantastic video, love your way of breaking down lore 💙
@jarltryggvi
@jarltryggvi Год назад
I disagree with the interpretation of the phrase “Walks with Flame” I am under the impression Flame here was referring to Melina as she becomes the Flame and we ventured this far with her.
@NullPointer
@NullPointer Год назад
I disagree with the part where FA is inside the mind of the tarnished, since you can reach it earlier from the four belfries. It's a magical place, where time flows differently yes, but I don't consider it in an alternate reality. The Round Table Hold in the other hand...
@JohnSmith-ut1hq
@JohnSmith-ut1hq Год назад
Great video like always, keep up the great work.
@Ck-io4bm
@Ck-io4bm Год назад
great videos bro, keep it up!
@stuartcarter4139
@stuartcarter4139 Год назад
I think Farum Azula has to be a physical location in some way, because there is a Waygate in Liurnia of the Lakes. I also think it includes information the player is not necessarily privy to, since you can see what looks like Miquella’s great rune (a needle) right in the middle of the old Elden Ring. I think it’s possible that this rune in play in Farum Azula also, since you can use Miquella’s needle in the Dragonlord’s arena. I think this is because the throne exists outside of time, and since the elden ring has only been shattered inside time. The weird thing is that the guidance of grace still works in Farum Azula, which is something I don’t really understand since with this theory of mine, the grace of the Erdtree and the Golden Order shouldn’t work. Lastly, I believe it used to exist where the bestial sanctum is now, since there’s a “Farum Greatbridge”… near where the dragon mound and bestial sanctum is, which I doubt is a coincidence.
@DukeMemes6047
@DukeMemes6047 Год назад
You can see Farum Azula from Malenia’s divine tower. Definitely a tangible thing.
@nolongerhuman13
@nolongerhuman13 Год назад
Thank you. Your vids def help. I don’t know why a company would make a story that was this complex and make it almost impossible to find out exactly what they made.
@Kajenx
@Kajenx 3 месяца назад
It's pretty clear the Roundtable is in the Erd Tree, since it burns the same time the Erd Tree does, and the flames get worse the same time they do for the Erd tree.
@tomohawk2177
@tomohawk2177 Год назад
20+ hours and 2 months into my playthrough and just found moonveil… tempting…
@KingJinzo2125
@KingJinzo2125 Год назад
Do it. Join the weeb side of Elden ring
@themafiaman7554
@themafiaman7554 Год назад
Yeah do it, it doesn’t matter if people complain
@nuhuhnope7579
@nuhuhnope7579 Год назад
I am using the co-op mod with my partner for our second playthrough. I am using dual moonveil and she is using dual sword of night and flame. Memes can be fun. My first playthrough was a quality build with spiked caestus.
@itsforfon5964
@itsforfon5964 Год назад
Wow! Just strolling in my subscription then found this and just 16 second ago like lol what? Ok. Let watch This. But other comments are like 10 hrs ago...what happening here? RU-vid?
@LuisChivas13
@LuisChivas13 Год назад
Maybe a patreon member who got to see the video early
@pixelboujee
@pixelboujee Год назад
They're denizens of farrum azula
@covetingbread5851
@covetingbread5851 6 месяцев назад
I have a feeling that it wasn't the 3 fingers that he fought for but instead it was the two fingers and the three fingers combined into something like a hand (maybe like the god hand from berserk)
@berylman
@berylman Год назад
This was great! Utterly fascinating
@Stiffs8000
@Stiffs8000 Год назад
Im so hyped for the dlc. I can’t stop thinking that elden ring actually leads to dark souls and the ancient dragons ruling over grey lifeless plains after the tarnished burn the entire world into ashes with the flames of frenzy, stopping life and births (exept for the everlasting dragons). That the ancient dragons were probably the rulers under the 3 fingers before even makes more sense for the theory!
@oswinhull4203
@oswinhull4203 6 месяцев назад
My theory is that some programmers thought it would be cool to have a crumbling sky fortress as a setting in the game and they just kind of shoe horned it into the game without any real story reason.
@DJ42288
@DJ42288 Год назад
every video you come out with just gets better and better in production value. its clear to see the hard work you put into these. Keep up great work. (im Manderex from Patreon)
@tomohawk2177
@tomohawk2177 Год назад
How did you post this before the video was posted? Do patrons get early access to videos?
@DJ42288
@DJ42288 Год назад
@@tomohawk2177 yup we get videos 24 hours early. definitely worth to help support such a great creator
@bradeygein389
@bradeygein389 Год назад
In regards to that blade, you mentioned about 1/4 the way through the video, that is the exact blade you can see Melina wield when you call upon her to aid you in the fight against Morgott
@GoulaLegamer
@GoulaLegamer Год назад
What u can also notice is that there is like sum lands parts under the city with sum threes and stuff and also bridge that lead to nothing clear indication that it was once connected to the ground
@LGFree
@LGFree Год назад
Not only that, Godwyns eyes can be seen growing through out Farum. It had to be connected to the rest of the continents if a tree somehow started to grow up there.
@robertsoto5713
@robertsoto5713 Год назад
Never thought the lore is confusing but maybe cuz u explain it well. Good job man thanks
@luna7157
@luna7157 Год назад
I'm fairly certain the Roundtable Hold is a physical location, inside the Erdtree. It's placed outside the map to distinguish it as the hub area, and because if it overlapped with the final boss' area (like the other Souls games), it might give it away.
@Addyboy0190
@Addyboy0190 Год назад
Placidusax is heavily damaged with 2 heads left, a pendant shows 4 heads originally but the boss model shows 5 heads, 3 stumps, the two heads seems to be similar to two fingers, seeming like the index and middle finger while the missing heads are the thumb, ring, and pinkie, similar to the three fingers
@ghostflossy2403
@ghostflossy2403 Год назад
3 fingers are the fingers for the crucible
@ghostflossy2403
@ghostflossy2403 Год назад
I guess lol
@commandercharmander8330
@commandercharmander8330 Год назад
Farum Azula is my favourite location in the game love the visuals with the never ending storm and the cutseen before the dragon lord where time seems to reverse just adds to the mysteries
@dakotacrum3872
@dakotacrum3872 Год назад
All of your videos that I've seen are amazing
@thedriller3943
@thedriller3943 3 месяца назад
This is what i love about fromsoftware. They make you really think about the world and what might have happend or will happen. And i really like that you took the first hunter soundtrack to have as background soundtrack, really threw me back to the bloodborne days.
@AMBATUKAM11111
@AMBATUKAM11111 Год назад
I like how destined death has golden embers. Looks super cool with black and red flames
@whiteobama3032
@whiteobama3032 Год назад
You can see mountaintops of the giants from farum azula so its definetly right there where it shows on the map.
@phage5342
@phage5342 Год назад
When I reached the royal capital there is a gateway which teleports you to the middle of the ocean with a tower with at that time a locked door, if you faced away from the door and looked to the right you would see farum azula. Round table hold has both a dream version inside the erd tree and a physical one, so when you burn the tree the dream version catches fire but not the physical one, if I had to guess if farum azula is similar it's probably in the great tree and is the reason why it's in such disrepair.
@gullit97
@gullit97 Год назад
I always thought the roundtable was some sort of non physical place for the same reasons you mentioned! I would love to know any theories about the identity of the statue in roundtable hold around the table… he stands out so much and I’ve seen nobody talk about it!
@cassavaman3784
@cassavaman3784 Год назад
Looking closely at the inside of the Forge of the Giants. There are many scratches, grooves, markings and multiple rips almost claw/finger in appearance in the outer structure. It is as though something was in there originally and has escaped, just a thought.
@nicholasrusso215
@nicholasrusso215 Год назад
It's pretty obvious that the roundtable hold that we keep going to is located in the Erdtree; when the erdtree is set on fire the hold is burning and is the only other location on fire besides the tree
@Expl0dingGalaxy2
@Expl0dingGalaxy2 Год назад
You can actually see farum azula if you go to the isolated divine tower. Behind Malenia’s two fingers you can see it quite clearly in the distance.
@fearslayersoro1589
@fearslayersoro1589 10 месяцев назад
i guess it kinda makes sense cause everytime you sit at grace after killing the enemies it respawn while some don't with death being like you said random at times
@koayuoo
@koayuoo Год назад
Gehrman ost almost had me crying BB is truly a masterpiece, cool lore vid btw
@michaelmain1990
@michaelmain1990 Год назад
If you summon Melina during the fight against morgott you can see her using the blade of calling. I believe she places it there after you defeat morgott
@Hyacynthesis
@Hyacynthesis Год назад
you can see Ferum Azula in the sky where it is on the map from the secluded tower where you empower Malenia's great rune.
@deztacular
@deztacular Год назад
One thing that might throw a wrench into your dream state idea is that Alexander the warrior jar also gets teleported to faram azula and and does indeed die if you choose to fight him and you can even bring back his innards to jar bairn. So we have to be somewhere in the actual world rather than just inside ourselves or some other state of being.
@touka9252
@touka9252 2 месяца назад
Bro Gherman’s theme hits so hard.
@eco.
@eco. Год назад
I think when it says the one who walks along side flame….. I think its referring to the tarnished walking the path with Melina who is the flame whose destinies put them on the road to destined death
@majestic_coconut9276
@majestic_coconut9276 11 месяцев назад
The roundtable is likely inside of the Erdtree because when you set the Erdtree aflame, the roundtable also gets on fire.
@mosiahmendoza6846
@mosiahmendoza6846 Год назад
Farum Azula exists in a timeline detached from the timeline in which the whole game takes place. That’s why killing Maliketh doesn’t make him disappear from the beast Sactuary, that’s why we regress time to fight Placidussaxx, it is because it’s a place stuck in time in a branching timeline.
@Ajial01
@Ajial01 Год назад
How did Alexander get there? :O
@mosiahmendoza6846
@mosiahmendoza6846 Год назад
@@Ajial01 maybe they show us in DLC
@Lupikus
@Lupikus 5 месяцев назад
As someone that is still on my first playthrough I immediately became super suspicious of the fingers when Ranni asked how long I might remain obedient to them
@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss
@Ori3ntal3Xpr3ss Год назад
First vid to pop up when I first load up the app. Sweet
@h3ll.is.w4iting51
@h3ll.is.w4iting51 Год назад
love your elden ring lore videos
@subject8776
@subject8776 Год назад
Farum Azula is in the Lands Between otherwise it would not make sense that you can reach it through a portal at the Four Belfries.
@luclin92
@luclin92 Год назад
For the weird transport like the coffins, I think it's just s visual gag, because it's not the first time from software has done something like that, but it's the first time they made that ridiculous cutscene of them flying to the next spot. When I did it the first time it was up the waterfall and I didn't expect to see that, so I started to laugh at the absurdity. But I will say when you sleep near the dragon I think you go into a dream like when you fight a certain other dragon which was trapped in a different dream
@runningoutofnames6956
@runningoutofnames6956 Год назад
God damn that thumbnail looks badass
@jakelaponder7565
@jakelaponder7565 Год назад
The roundtable.exists within the erdtree it's a manifestation of you returning to the erdtree it's the reason why when you do things that effect the erd tree (i.e set it on fire) roundtable hold suffers the same effect.
@FonzieKree
@FonzieKree Год назад
I think that like Elden Tree is towering over Lands Between (and when you burn it it cover the capital in ash) the Azula served same purpose in age of dragons, towering over Lands Between. When it was shattered, ruins covered the land like ash covers Capital, and the Stormveil lost it's storm (stormboy placidusax went to slumber). The misbegotten are former shadows of beastmen which are still in original form in Azula. When first lord appeared we got Azula, for second lord we got a tree and now (with age of stars) we get moon which represents Elden lord (consort)
@patrickg3872
@patrickg3872 Год назад
Cool theory on the dragonlord being the first and the connection of the needle. All of the crucible knights, dragon incantations and those cast aside, outside of grace being more ancient than the greater will lines up with this.
@ColorAgent
@ColorAgent Год назад
From the lore I’ve read and studied: Azula used to be in the middle of the map, above the sea and in the center of all the divine towers. The dragons picked this strategic location because they could very quickly see and travel to pretty much any place in The Lands Between, hence cementing their rule for awhile when Placidusex was The First Elden Lord. Also, they can obviously fly, so it’s naturally a safe place for them to roost, away from non-flying enemies. Maybe their Outer God made the Temple in the sky just for them. But I digress. As rulers of pretty much everywhere though, you start to make enemies. These enemies are the ones who called to their Outer God to bring the Hurricane/Tornado thingy to sweep all Azula away, and it ended up off to the Far East (hence why we see a storm still covering where Azula used to be on the map). Makes a lot of sense to me. Now, I’m now sure if the dragons or the giants where in the snowy northern mountains first (I lean towards the giants), but either way, they started to become enemies and I think the giants called upon their Outer God (The Fell God), to help them defeat the dragons. The Fell God brought the storm. I think the giants lived there first when the trolls migrated up there and evolved into them long ago. Which is why it’s called the Mountaintops of the Giants, not of the Dragons. As the Dragons’ rule started to spread further, they finally started to invade the snowy north and made enemies with the giants. This is all long before the giants’ war with the erdtree of course, but maybe they wouldn’t have lost if they weren’t already weakened by their fight with the dragons, since they already possessed a way to burn the erdtree. Maybe they just didn’t have the numbers to execute their plan after fighting the dragons.
@yorusaka3554
@yorusaka3554 Год назад
if you go to the isolated divine tower you can see farum azula, which proves it actually is where it's signaled in the map
@timelineenjoyer
@timelineenjoyer Год назад
Placidusax also has the remnants of three heads that are no longer alive (an echo of three fingers?) But this also could lead one to believe since he has two remaining heads perhaps he is more so a reflection of the greater will, or what is left of it. Since there is division amongst one hand there can be no balance which is why the lands between are in the state they are when we arrive.
@retro926
@retro926 2 месяца назад
I like to think that the Farum Azula we play in is in a different time line, which explains why Gurranq is still in Dragonbarrow after we kill Maliketh, you can see Farum from a divine tower which means it exists but when we play, we are in a different time line.
@misterkoala7364
@misterkoala7364 Год назад
In my opinion Farum Azula was part of the ring you can see on the map (whole Map looks like a whole ring, except the right part in the north of caelid). The isolated Divine Tower was part of it when it was on the bottom. Maybe it represent the shattering of the ring as its the missing part of the map.
@hideyasumusha7211
@hideyasumusha7211 Год назад
I don't think Farum Azula is in our minds, we can see it from one of the towers so yeah, i'll pass on that one
@marvingray9758
@marvingray9758 10 месяцев назад
I definitely agree with you when you said that the round table hood is actually a dream state. That seems to make sense to me. However, (and I can’t remember where I read this) but the gragonlords, like Plasidusax, could actually control time, hence the player’s ability to enter his temporal cocoon.
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