Melina's response after inheriting the frenzied flame 

Now touch grass I mean grace

Divorced before even married

@@WhamBang First time I saw "touch grace" it immediately occured to me it's similar to "touch grass" which was incredibly funny to me, I hope that was the joke

She is not a maiden herself, she was only acting as one. It's like the first thing she says to you

Not much was lost. She barely appears even when resting before the graces. I quite literally spent enough time playing game for me to *completely forget* she was in it, that's how miniscule her role in the overall adventure is.

Pusc

I don't see why. She's a nobody who can't even follow up on her threat, in all likelihood.

​@@zeriel9148She got her cheeks clapped by morgott in my first play through. 😂

@@zeriel9148 it’s implied she’s a demigod so in all likelihood she’s probably much stronger than she lets on

@@zeriel9148She’s likely the Gloam Eyed Queen so she might actually kill us lmao

Shes an immortal ghost like figure so she'll just come back regardless

@@ELLI0TR0DGER nope she doesn't come back in the ending , I guess burning herself consumed her souls

Ahh, someone who accepts the flame of chaos as well. May one be all.

​@@neah9060 *Runes

@@WhoThisMonkey her essence of being

well yeah, the needle doesnt kill the flame, it only seals it. you aren't healed, the flame is still in you, its only being held at bay by the needle. If anything were to happen to you, or the needle, the world is fucked so of course she'd leave you after you had done something that stupid (stupid from a lore perspective, not a player or gameplay one).

@@jasoncarnelian3325 whata the source of that tho?the item description of the needle says its 'Capable of subduing the flame of frenzy'. nothing about only sealing it.

@@JakeDavidRoberts subdue means to capture, not to kill. American cops aren’t famous for subduing unarmed black men now are they?

@@jasoncarnelian3325 not it means 'bring under control'. It only works for millicent temporary but for us it works permanently as we use it outside of time in Plasidusax boss arena

@@JakeDavidRoberts that doesn’t change anything, it’s beside the point. yes it is sealed permanently because of the needle. But if the needle gets damaged, or destroyed? If you, the host, gets killed, or even fatally wounded? Given the flame is tied to the outer gods is a safe assumption that if the integrity of the host or needle is jeopardized at all at any point that flame is busting out and consequences would be catastrophic. The flame never should have been touched. That’s beside that fact that taking it in the first place is a severe lapse in judgement at best that Melina rightfully scorns you for. There is no justifying that decision.

Right? I need me trophies

Eh, you can do it after she sacrifices herself

If you don't betray her, she dies. Lore wise it's extremely heartbreaker. You become a lord at the price of your maiden, or you would burn it all just so she lives.

I just wanted to press the factory reset button.

it was the last one I got and I felt awful about it

Some men just want to see the world burn

The yellow glowing eyes make it worth it

Everyone in the game tells you it's the worst ending because none of them can truly understand how irrevocably broken the world is. Each of them believes it can be fixed---MUST be fixed---in the way that THEY believe is correct. All the other endings do is replace one set of terrible circumstances for another. Every character in the game is tied to their own specific despotic ideology that places their own interests first. They are all demagogues. Burning it all down is the only way to truly set everything straight once again, allowing it to restart. This is a pure reflection of the true reset of the Souls universe that allows the Fire to fade and the cycle to begin again.

Always remember : for century, everyone would have told you earth was flat. Are they right?

@@Yannick-lr6kn if you told me joining the evil side gave me laser eyes I would sell my soul to the darkness years ago

Morgott has over 10000 hp. You do not.

​@@edmarcamyAre you sure with my 100 vigor ?

@@edmarcamy so? if she cant kill morgott but you easily can, then you will surely kill her as well

​@@currentlyspeakingbmwmusic1793 in a way, melina embodies the driving force of living creatures after you become the embodiment of entropy by inheriting the frenzied flame. It's poetic, in a way, that melina is essentially granted life's infinite desire to push on and survive, in the same way that in everyday life, will and order trump chaos and entropy

A sick kind of beauty indeed. Life itself being idiotic enough to keep birthing poor new souls onto the world filled with torment and despair. And admitting it to be beautiful in of itself. Fucked up beyond belief. Sickening.

Yes, births continue. Births of the Omen and the Misbegotten, people who have been punished for generations for crimes their forebears committed that they have no hope of atoning for. Theirs is an existence of misery through no fault of their own. Not even an Elden Lord can reverse their misfortune. But the Frenzied Flame can.

@@theusher2893 Fucken metal as FUCK, duuuude !!!

@@theusher2893 except there are no more births, the ff ending kills all life, if you want to save the omen and the misbegotten then chose the dungeater ending

@theusher2893 no it can't, imagine how much of a psychopath you have to be thinking that killing them all is how you save them. As long as there is life there is opportunity. The slaves from the past irl had it worse than the misbegotten people and even they desired to fight and for their future generations to live. Frenzied flame is just for cowards who think death solves the problem.

it's their job to say that they WILL kill you no matter what, but they still die. But at last, they can not win since only we have the power of the Main Character

underrated comment

Maybe in the next game she will bring someone that will kill you, you the player are now tasked with taking down your former self, the frenzied flame lord.

This is a fromsoft game your maxed out character can die if you accidentally don't watch your step.

@@MrPsych77but I’m on pc, and I can download immortality mods and other shit.

Yeah, the game is awesome. But I have a question : "why the fuck are you watching content from the game that is spoiler?"

@@justalockheedf-117nighthaw7 To answer you,I know for sure I won't be able to buy it,plus it's a multi-ending game which is fun to check the options Plus as an artist and fan I like to see as much as I can to stay lore accurate

@@TwinZ-studios ur a fan of a game u have never played -_-

Did you buy it yet?

@@Onaicul98 sadly no....

Torrent is a real homie

torrrent is a killer 😂😂😂

And he is killed at the end

True. Devs didn’t think of that lol

Exactly what I am doing XD

@@Chara_Murdererr They thought of that, but characters in fiction don't have to be aware of everything and know everything that's going to happen. Melina maybe doesn't know about that arrangement and the ideas the Tarnished have for themselves. It's natural that she thinks you're going to fully embrace the Frenzied Flame ending. People should start thinking how human logic and natural writing works before judging scripts and narratives.

You didn't save her. You just give her an eternal suffering for whole life. She doesn't need a hero to save her life, and you disrespect her need as she said.

@@MK-xj5by She wanted to sacrifice herself because she thought it was a necessity. It was not. She'll get over it.

Probably how you should be feeling given that your ending the world when you could be fixing it. And you also kill torrent by doing the flame of frenzy ending betraying your one constant companion and the one who chose you as his rider.

It’s Almost like that’s the point

@LoftWing Heropon I wish it would change if you get rid of the frenzied flame taint and something would happen say melina returns

@@loftwingheropon2743 .

Well, I don't think you're supposed to feel good about yourself for purposely bringing chaos to the world

Imagine she’s actually terribly weak and doesn’t give enough runes to level up for the point you are at Because the point is that the real challenge was actually killing the one person who actively aided you all this way

I can imagine this is possible in either Shadow of the Erdtree or any possible sequel(?)

@MothmanOfficialWva i dont think devs mKe fun choices like this, its probably going to be the same old dark souls experience with out anything experimental I mean, adding a jump button was a game breaking change for them lmao

​@@clover9725 I don't think they will do it in the DLC (it wouldn't make much sense), but to say they wouldn't do this sort of thing is completely wrong, when they literally did exactly this in Sekiro, their previous game. In Sekiro's bad ending, there's an exclusive boss fight against Emma, who has a very similar role to Melina as basically your 'maiden'.

Kind of like Emma in Sekiro if you choose to help Owl?

When resting in the site of grace before inheriting the flame, she tries to deter you from doing so. Check it out 👍🏻

Okay so i didn't rest at that grace so i totally missed that warning and i remember someone comented that you need to undress by the gate so i tried it not knowing it would instantly make my decision. I then rest after i get it and she threatens me like that i was just sitting there like woah that escalated quickly... lol​@libraflame8263

you weren't overthinking. its the bad ending

@@gufaaahhh there is no bad ending. :)

Nah man, fuck them trees.

“Didn’t mean to” > gets curious about leyndell > finds sewers > explores sewers > finds secret area > finds mohg the second > kills mohg the second > completes jumping puzzle > takes off clothes voluntarily > voluntarily meets 3 fingers and inherits frenzied flame > loses maidens > kills funny big fire man > burns giant tree > kills a good boi > kills first elden chad > kills god > becomes -elden lord- lord of chaos

@@raghav1026 I did not meet the three fingers voluntarily they jumped me

It's not too late! You can forsake the frenzied flame. You have to save Millicent in Caelid, then defeat Placidusax in Farum Azula, and use the Needle while in that arena.

@@WufeiLord But Melina will still have dumped you at that point

My man asking the real questions here, no idea, but good fucking luck testing that

@@DrunkedOwly I'm sure someone will figure it out. 🤣

@@Cheese334 probably through hacking, but yeah

Actually that’s not even possible, you have to go to the roundtable hold to activate leyndell’s door so you to talk to melina

​@@2rh.c 3 months late here, but i dont think so, you only need 2 great rune to unlock the leyndell seal

Melina leaves, and Varre comes in out of nowhere and sits down with you. Even under his mask, you can tell he’s smirking.

Flip the script and Play as Melina to Kill your character

To the shadow realm

albania

brazil

To the muffin mans house

Ohio

*Eating rowa berries

I'm not there yet but I think you can just use the frenzied flame to do it.

You do it yourself instead. You inherenting the flame is the only way she lives

@@garfball3010 but if that os the case then you burn the erdtree and just die by doing it?then if you die what,you dont het to fight morgot godfrey and the final fight or what.

@@papafloppa you dont die doing it due to the power of the frenzied flame

-Inherit frenzied flame -burn big tree -Rid self of Frenzied Flame -profit

She has no control over Torrent anymore. Torrent chose you as his rider.

@@tonystarrk4859 Didn't she say that "I shall leave Torrent with you", when we got her to the Capital? She phrased that as if she very much had a choice in the matter.

Michelle's needle hell yeah autocorrect true

Well the needles don’t remove the influence entirely, just halts it. You’re still a carrier for the flame, essentially, and I doubt Melina would be chill with that.

She won’t. The devs didn’t think about that.

Try turning off eye alteration

Well, choosing the most chaotic, ravaging, destructive ending should have some consequences to yourself.

Good you deserve it 😂

Go to the Mirror in Fai's room in Roundtable Hold. Go to the eyes option, and turn off eye alteration. That will remove the Frenzied Flame visual from your character's eyes.