MEMORIES OF ICE by Steven Erikson - No Spoiler and Spoiler Review 

@@AndySmithMN DONE

“Malazan isn’t grmdark” :p

Doesn't it talk to him too?

@@ShelfCentered yes!!!!

I am not yet done!

yeah, I think that does make the decision seem less plot convenient

Thanks for checking it out Philip! It seems I may need to have you and AP sort me out on all this Toc business!

I was also frustrated by Toc at first, but I think his decisions also go along with the book/series theme of compassion. He can make a difference, even at a small level, even if it only matters to one person, even if he has to suffer, he'll take that option.

@@ShelfCentered Well said! I think you’re right about a big part part of his motivation. There’s also his obligation as a Malazan intelligence officer to scope out the enemy. And he would have died in Envy’s company.

@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yeah, she the part of living forever that loses the ability (if she ever had it) to have any empathy. She finds it all very quaint and heads full throttle toward her goals

@@ShelfCentered I've only just started The Bonehunters but I feel like there's some degree of empathy there but it's not a human empathy of that makes sense.

As I went through I realized I did a whole lot less reviewing as much as I just reacted. Either way, lots of fun to read and make content around. Look forward to talking with you about Malazan in the future!

@@thefantasynuttwork Anytime.

Sengar family is awesome and Karsa is horrifying lol I love Erikson's characterization

Glad you liked it! The interactions and relationship building between WJ and Rake is prob my favorite part of the book! I think Toc's background is the big piece I was missing when thinking about this huge decision

Yeah I got it incorrect

I appreciate it!

Thank you!

Let's gooooo!!!

Appreciate it 😁

Thank you, this was my largest effort yet on a review haha

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Thanks bro! I miss this setup lol

Yeah you're enjoyment and excitement when talking about Malazan has been very contagious to be honest. I'm so happy to be a part of the fandom 👍

@@thefantasynuttwork Yes!!!

@@thefantasynuttwork I totally agree with you about how much you are rewarded. I've never been more rewarded by a book than by a Malazan book and then it happens 10 times in a row. Team Kruppe all the way!

@@ShelfCentered Kruppe would agree with us, clearly

Thank you, doing my best!

@@thefantasynuttwork Oh, I just remembered lol I never told you but I did ask Brian Lee Durfee to come onto Chatting with Nutts like I promised lol But I will admit that I did it rather indirectly, it was a sort of meta-textual joke XD He did not acknowledge joke but he's a smart guy so I'm sure he got it (I didn't expect him to acknowledge it because that would have both ruined the joke and there it would be silly for him to make big time commitments like that in a random YT comment lol) If you are curious just go to the video on his channel of his review of "From a Buick 8" by Stephen King and read the comment I left him lol

@@v3rmilli0nair3 my dude! Hahaha I'll check it out 😂

Thank you for watching 👍

@@BooksRebound agreed! I'm about to start binging your content now that I see you have some Adrian Tchaikovsky stuff. I just read Children of Time last week, and very much enjoyed it.

There are dozens of us!!! RG gang

Thank you so much for that, I was nervous it was way too long hahH

It's a hit so far!

Thank you 😊

I’m so glad you enjoy it!

He goes BIG

Thanks Eric! The reveal and explanation of the prologue was so so good

It's terrific

I may have forgotten that!

Yea there is a very brief scene in GotM w Brood and Kallor.

Ups and downs everywhere!

Looks like we align!

@@thefantasynuttwork great minds think alike.

“Aral Fayle. Toc the Younger. Who had called him friend. It was time for the First Sword of the T’Lan Imass to announce himself.” GET FUCKING HYPE

@@ReallyGoodandKind let's goooooooooo

It's soooo good, and thank you!

I’m also starting Midnight Tides. I have to say though despite what I’ve heard others say I really enjoyed HoC’s very much!! Great review Jimmy, I always look forward to what you have to say!!

@@mich7008 thanks! I also really enjoyed HoC

@@mich7008 Yeah, I agree, HOC was really good, cant wait to see Tavore, the army and Karsa again.

Thank you! It gets less confusing after time 😀

You got some good reading ahead of you!

Thank you so much 😁

The biggest misconception I had going into Malazan was that I'd not have any characters I'd enjoy..I've become very fond of Erikson's cast and enjoy his characterization. Malazan is just so different, and for me a breathe of fresh air.

@@thefantasynuttwork Malazan is commonly described as not character-driven, and while it has a different approach in some respects, the characters are at the heart of the series. It's just not one character or one group. It's brilliant the way Erikson is able to do that, and in a different way than Martin who also has a gift for engaging readers with a massive cast!

@@Johanna_reads yeah and I think this approach results in less "dead" storylines for the books. Meaning when you delve so deep into characters each time it can be a huge miss if a reader doesn't care for the character. For instance, and I do not feel this way, a lot of people dislike Dany chapters in ADWD so it brings their overall enjoyment down. I feel like the approach Erikson takes is easier to get around that type of issue. I'm sure there's a better way to decipher the two but I'm not knowledgeable enough to do that, need Philip or AP on the case lol

@@thefantasynuttwork Oh wow! I loved Dany's chapters in ADWD! 😅 As to your point though, there are so many storylines in Malazan that all interconnect through theme if not plot. I have had the experience of not connecting to some storylines as much as others (like in Reaper's Gale), but usually I find there is always so much there to reflect on, even if I didn't get a strong emotional response while reading it. It's interesting to compare those two series though!

Oh man that's really kind of you and I appreciate it so much. This one took a lot of time but I had so much fun doing it

​@@thefantasynuttwork Toc was pushed into it by K'rul, who compelled him to go to the heart of the Pannion and eventually release the Ay spirit. "She seeks … redress. The realization flooded Toc’s mind, and he knew that the knowledge was not his, but an Elder God’s. Who now spoke directly, in a voice that trickled like sand into the Malazan’s thoughts. [...] It is difficult - a risk beyond imagining - but I must send you into the Seer’s embrace. I do not think you will forgive me." edit: nevermind, just saw a comment saying the same 😂

@@pranavprabhu8609 I'm learning a lot today lol

Glad to give them 😁

@@thefantasynuttwork I am also reading the Esselmont books where they fit, 3rd full world reread to end with a first read of The God is Not Willing.

@@jdracing551 that's so hype!!!

Seven cities are/is growing on me

He's like the most epic of epic

No wait... Karsa then Itkovian.

@@shawnturpin197 Karsa is a badass!

Great pick!

Epic

@thefantasynuttwork for real!!

Forever!

After MOI is a good break spot

Oh damn!!!!!

I remember that I caught this conversation upon like third re-read considering how packed with these "little" references MBotF is :D

@@MrZidaczech that's mind blowing

@@thefantasynuttwork You also may want to consider the following calculation that Toc may have run in his head: 1. I am a trained scout and spy and have been trained in infiltration by the sneakiest spies in the world. 2. If I stay with these overpowered fools I WILL end up dead as they cannot possibly protect me against what they are wading into. 3. I have survived on my own in worse situations than this... I survived being thrown into chaos after all. 4. What is that buzzing in my head? I feel myself being swayed by a mysterious force that is making this calculation seem a lot more one sided than it should be. 5. Sure, they say that they are cannibals that have no food, but really, there must be some food somewhere, no one would ever run an army like this. There must be some mistake or exaggeration. 6. It may be that I have an overly inflated sense of how well this is going to turn out, but a choice between what I see as certain death with weird dreams and psychotic killers, or a choice between maybe surviving undetected in a mass of mad humans who won't pay any attention to anyone else and who are heading toward my friends and fellow soldiers... Lastly, Toc is also only human and can make mistakes like anyone else. He doesn't have all the information we have, and choosing between two bad choices will always result in you making a bad choice. We just know that from his perspective Envy was predatory, scary, and prone to fits of pique and whimsical decision making, Tool couldn't guarantee his safety in battle nor protect him against Envy if she decided she was mad at him, and the Seguleh didn't care about him at all. Plus, Gods directly messing with mortals for their own plans and nefarious ends, that is becoming commonplace by now. maybe he just needs some hugs... like lots of hugs... 🙄🙄

@@ACriticalDragon fabulous response. I definitely was willing to be ignorant and or wrong about the said decision, which is why I asked for comments like this haha. I'm thankful for it! Hugs 😭

Yeah I missed some stuff no doubt

Which is your favorite so far? I think out of the first 5 it's gotta be MOI or MT for me

@@thefantasynuttwork it's still deadhouse gates for some reason It's my favorite 💯❤❤

Kallor is a bad bad man

Thanks for watching my friend

Yeeeeeah!

So amazing

True

okay cool! thanks! It's fun to theorize as I go haha

Interesting! I felt the Moon Spawn ending was a result of Rake evolving and changing due to his experiences with WJ

you'll appreciate that scene with Rake a lot more after you read book 8 : - )