Men’s Mental Health And The Hard Truth 

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​@@BushBanditGuy Links haven't worked for RU-vid Shorts for a long time but apparently most "big creators" or their employees don't actually bother watching RU-vid Shorts to know this. They also don't read comments so they just keep posting links despite people saying they don't work.

Lazy bastards mate lazy bastards what are you going to do about it we’ll looks like this preacher is er nothing 🤣

Right but they are talking about men here. It's important to distinguish between the lived experience between genders as they're different and as he highlighted in the beginning sometimes applying a universal solution doesn't help

It’s not advice only for men but there aren’t numerous organisations or programmes that exist solely to support or encourage men. If a boy doesn’t learn that his problems and shortcomings are his responsibility to solve and overcome, no knight in shining armour is ever going to ride up and save him just because he has a pretty smile.

​@@sideburnsandwich1119 It made it very clear that these are the main things that men deal with women want to be loved and men want to be honored so hes not saying that women don't want this. He's saying that it's a lot more important for men to meet their needs.

Yes

@@greyaliien i like to know those organizations?

I say the most problems women have is accountability and respect... Modesty is something I don't see anymore!!!

Thats the best cure for most depression because depression is a symptom of not doing the basics correctly in 95% of cases. For most people with "depression" all they need to do is fix their diet, fix their sleep, fix their exercise, fix their routine and they'll feel better. Mental health is much more than depression, in fact depression is often a symptom of physical health not mental health. Most women find talking through their problems to be the most effective way of making them feel better, hence why its so common for women to get mad when their partner tries to fix her problems instead of just listening. Most men find talking through their problems to be pointless if the focus isnt on solving the problems, which is why its so common for men to not open up to their partners very much. The man wants to fix the problem but the woman thinks she just needs to listen to him talk about it.

@@callanc3925 I like the way you see things but Depression for me is not just be able to sleep or going to the gym, I'm bipolar so for me its very different and I have a childtrauma wish is a really hard to understand I wont go into detail but for some if you do the basic is not enough for me I learn to cope and learn to adapt to things and still I felt like I didn't belong but it take time and it's a fight I will have to deal my entire life happiness for me is the little thing in life even if for you sound banal for me I get happy if a get 8hr of sleep hehe

To feel capable and empowered? I have no desire to feel capable and empowered. I want to be capable and to be capable is to have power.

I think as a generalization what he is saying is pretty accurate. It's not that men and women can't both use the same stratagems to solve personal problems. It's that in the male experience men are being fed lines of resoning and solutions for life that don't actually focus on accountability and personal improvement. Not saying that's not what you do- but i've been to talk therapy for a long time and there's only so much you can be made aware of before having to take things into your own hands. Men are told to accept their emotions and it's valid to cry and just sit with pain, but personally speaking- and i think some people will agree with me on this- men really only benifit incrementally from that kind of advice. Men need more kicks in the ass than pats on the back.

Wish he would have said that second part, because the part where the parent helps guide the child through the solution is the most important part.

Everyone has sinned and we all fall short of God’s moral standard. And so the payment for our sins is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. So declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, and you will be saved.

Yep. Parenting and therapy. One of the best therapists I had let me vent and cry for 20 minutes and then asked, "What's your plan?" And he helped me make a solid plan. Did he treat me like a man or a person who needed a reminder to take control of what I can control, namely my actions? A person.

​@@andrewogilvie9051 lol, do you mean the biblical god's moral standards of endorsing slavery, rape, and genocide? I'm more moral than your god. You probably are too, unless, of course, you also endorse those atrocities.

It's so good even moms can use it. It works on daughters too. And it empowers the person to make their own decisions, but it also shows that you are listening and that you care. Everyone deserves to feel acknowledged, capable, and loved.

I agree. I’m an only child raised by a single mum. I’ve never had a dad, grandad, uncle, brother or even close male friends. I haven’t gone off the rails as such but I’m definitely not developing at the pace I should be. Got a lot of internal work to do.

Yes and no. Many men would give the boy a beating which doesn’t particularly help matters. There has to be a fine line, not too ‘strong’, not too soft.

My father taught me by example. Worked his butt off, switched to nights for 5 years to look after my brother and myself, never fought or yelled at my mother, always told me to pick my battles, to accept constructive criticism & so much more. We had a few difficult years(my fault) but never gave up on me. I'm middle aged and he's my best friend and greatest role model. Still I made some terrible mistakes in my life. A good father is just part of the equation. You have to use all those lessons to mold who you are & become.

​@John Martin There is nothing wrong with a spanking. Discipline is good, and as long as it's done right, and the father still shows he loves and cares for his son that's fine. I got spankings from my dad, but he sat me down, gave me a hug, told me he loved me, and explained what I did wrong, and how to improve. Spankings showed the world will have consequences, and some may be physical. Also that there will always be people stronger, and bigger than me.

@@pcgameboy8407 I’m sure your son will/does love it.😉

Yeah this is just stupid. Nothing here is Fair to the actual needs of depression between either gender. Depression isn't black and white.

This is true however the issues surrounding men are far more underrepresented, so again this is true, but everyone knows this I understand what you are trying to do though 👍

Yep, and these 2 guys are talking about a way of thinking that doesn't accept personal limitations.

These two men are also talking in a way that isn't applicable to all men or even the majority of men. It's only really applicable to men in their own subculture. The criticism they're levying against mental health treatment, that there is a one-size-fits-all approach to a highly individualised problem, is the exact mistake they then go on to make themselves when they generalise for all men.

My observation is that when women says they have a problem, it is less about the actual problem, but more about what the feel about the problem. When men says they have a problem, it is about the actual problem and their ability/inability to fix it. This is why women tend to benefit from just "talking about it", because it helps those feelings to settle down. However, men tend not to benefit from this because they don't have this feeling problem in the first place.

Agreed because I definitely feel a lot more capable, but I want to feel cared about and loved so I agree 😂

I completely agree and love how articulately you said it.

K.I.S.S. "Keep It Stupid Simple" (or keep it simple stupid.) Most of the time simplicity is the answer

@@3CODKing There's a big difference between simple and simplistic. It can often mean the difference between genuine understanding that is useful to a large extent, and seriously misunderstanding something in a way that has far-reaching, avoidable negative consequences.

Feeling loved and cared about is important to me as a Guy, i want to feel that people honestly do want me to do good in life and be happy I dont need to be super strong or always in power I just want to keep a good sense that reminds me "i'm not alone, i have people who care about me, and i care about them as well"

I would say that counts for children in general

@@zondernaam2040 absolutely true

We should do this for everyone tbh. We all need a healthy balance between our right brain and left brain. Nobody should be neglecting one side of their brain

​@@PlayshotKalo >me, sides of my brain looking like David and Goliath

​@@PlayshotKalo that's not how brain works 😂

Wake up and join the real world

@@hboy8625 Ummmm their comment was a realistic and factual assessment of therapy. “Join the real world” That is so dramatic 😂

@@o0alias0o Just wondering how you can state categorically that the comment is "realistic and factual" when the very next comment is from an actual female psychiatrist saying how useful the short is for her to hear from a man's perspective - because Men respond differently.

true. I feel like they in the video, and alot of republicans think that everything needs to be a certain way, that every tradition is a one-sized-fits-all thing, when it isnt. I mean, I get that democrats are garbage, but that doesnt mean every republican value is correct either

Sadly nuance might make for good therapy but it doesn't make for good clicks.

Or -Be 6’4 -Be Scary Large -Be Rich -Be a Asshole

This statement makes it incredibly hard for me to believe you’re a psychology major. Have you by chance been sleeping though most of your classes?

@@starinthesky8134 I had depressions for years, even to point i often thought of suicide. And you're wrong! So wrong! I've heard it million times...'Things are not so bad, it's ok to feel low, but remember tomorrow it's going to be better. You're fine..." That's not helpful-that's gasslighting! All sympathy, all words...0 real support. Most of time...telling me how i am actually ok for like 5 minutes...and not even letting me finish what I wanted to tell them! Not listening what I had to say...but telling me how I am ok...when I felt like throwing myself out window less than five minutes prior. ...It's not ok. And telling depressed person...that the way they feel is ok or normal...when they desperately want that feeling to stop...is pure insanity.

@@starinthesky8134 No, I just actually listened to them. And to many multiple therapists have taught me. Have you? By telling a client "you are okay the way that you are", you only serve to reinforce their unhealthy / ineffective coping mechanisms.

@@stoyanpetkov3853 so you’re saying it’s better to make patients feel bad about feeling bad? Like „hey you’re depressed, and you know what that’s not okay you piece of sh*t“ or „hey I know you’re feeling confused and scared about the future right now but that’s totally not acceptable“…. Pretty sure that’s the actually unhealthy thing

@@starinthesky8134 you know there's a middle ground between those things right? Many therapists I've seen that have helped me have directly said what I was feeling wasn't normal or ok to feel, but that doesn't make me wrong or bad.

Agreed.

The western cultural indoctrination is to infantilize instead of truly empower.

Agreed, but unfortunately we have different rules.

Father can't be really like that anymore or their wife will take half their shit. Not saying it doesn't work but once you have chosen the wrong partner because you weren't a man already, it's difficult if not downright impossible to bring that kind of energy to raising your kids.

​@@xLegendaryPicturesyour response displays a fundamental misunderstanding of how real relationships happen. Women don't "take half men's shit" they earned 50% by helping their spouse to become successful. They were an equal partner in accumulating that wealth. No man becomes successful in a vacuum, thas just egotism speaking.

It wasn't accurate for me.

PLEASE don't listen random dudes on the internet trying desperately to perpetuate gender normativity and an insanely atomizing and isolating individualistic ideology. As a man, MEN DON'T NEED TO BE TOLD THEY NEED TO 'MAN UP' MORE. PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE

As a man who was neglected and bullied as a child. All i ever wanted was to feel loved. These men are one bad day away from suicide. Because all their welf worth comes from providing.

@@MustbeTheBassest If that’s your take you need to whatch this clip again he said men want to feel capable and powerful. Providing was not mentioned. For a man to feel good to love end respect himself he need to feel capabel and powerful.

But... the first words in this short was "Don't treat depression in others like how I suffer from it"..... and now you're going to say "THIS IS WHAT MEN THINK?"

Mums do that too.

@@laestrella9727 not as often or effectively as men.

@@benjamink.1970 What a load of BS, of course moms do this too. The same way dads can just let their kids do what they want and encourage bad behaviour/ moms can also do this. It depends on what kind of person you are and how you have been raised.

@@chalk4156 I never said that they wouldn't or couldn't. Focus buddy.

@@chalk4156 The way Moms do it and the way Dads do it are different, and equally important. The lesson is in the tone of voice the parent uses and the delivery of the lesson. Each different delivery and tone support the importance of the lesson within a slightly different context. The difference is the emotional context of the child receiving the correction. Both different, both invaluable.

Same I completely went thru the same thing. When I just wanted to be understood and acknowledged of my frustration and someone says "what are you going to do?" It made me frustrated even more and felt like no one cared about how I felt.

I agree but I don’t think it’s a gender thing, I think it’s a contextual thing. “What are you going to do about it?” doesn’t help a child who is subject to terrifying things outside of their control it just makes the child feel shame and shame is corrosive.

Every psychiatrist (probably) knows this. These guys are just using a strawman to prove a point.

​@@estoyaqui257no. U just was too afraid to tell truth. U were a coward to explain your problem and admit u lack knowledge and need some guidance. Question itself is perfect. It puts u in a place where u are in charge of the outcome. Your parent literally asked u what's going on. But u run away from it and even today can't admit u are coward.

What’s said in the clip doesn’t speak for all men. A lot of men would feel exactly like you did.

Yeah man, I’ve had a very cold relationship with my father because of this sentiment. It’s so harmful, I can’t believe this kind of shit is being pushed to the gullible masses again.

It's a far cry from saying men can't have emotions, to saying "wallowing in your emotions with no end game is unhealthy"

​@@GarrotWireThere is a difference that you can't understand because in your life these lessons were done differently so you only think thats how everyone gonna do. But its not brotherm

@@mewe1023 True, one size doesn’t fit all but we could at least admit that in certain cases this isn’t always true. Ignoring your emotions while hiding behind a “tough” fascade is not only pathetic but unhealthy as well. I’ve spoke with guys before who have said they’ve had no issues with this growing up but their way of living habit, and characteristics say otherwise. It’s just having self-awareness, something men are slowly starting to develop due to the information highway.

Well hopefully he has a father to help him develop a backbone whilst you mollycoddle him!

He is assuming really outdated and traditionalist gender roles.

My response to these kind of situation is: "If you do not want me to help you fix your problem, then make your complaints funny. And if not, then don't expect me to listen."

This is the typical situation for most all male/female relationships and it’s usually because they want to just get it out in the open and then are able to think about it better. The way me and my wife try to do it is at the beginning I ask if this is a “fix it” situation or a “just listen” situation. It’s usually the second 😅. But there have been plenty of times as we’ve used that technique that she’s asked for my opinion afterward. I think it’s helped our marriage a bunch

Research has shown that venting alone can help lower stress significantly, so can't blame them. I'll still try to find a solution though lol

Yes. Women just want to validated and told they are correct, listened to in whatever they are venting about. They do not want a solution.

My girlfriend became oregnant unexpectedly, and I sent her some information about abortions because neither one of us wanted a baby. However, she didn't take it well because she needs time to sort out her emotions about it and I was coldly trying to solve it logically too soon.

Beyond that i actually think some of this is harmful. The truth is some things cannot be controlled, sometimes it is the environment around you... and you cannot change it. Even more so part of, especially chronic, depression and anxiety is realising that, at least part of you, isn't capable and you need help. Now of course that doesn't mean that improving ones feelings of control and power cannot help but if you don't also come to grips with your feelings of self worth being directly connected to those things and how you need to change that it is exactly the same as hollow ego boosting.

No this is complete nonsense again

@@TheWhiteGoblin You’re absolutely right, it’s incredibly harmful. Thinking like this is how abusers are created. It comes from a pretty spoiled place too.

It's like there is some truth to it but the explanation is so scrambled it doesn't make any sense. He makes it sound like the way to treat male depression is to not respond to their feelings and that is harmful and not grounded in science at all. But it's a fact that there are decisive gender differences in mental illness that often get overlooked by professionals. For example autism and adhd are underdiagnosed in women, depression and borderline are underdiagnosed in men, due to the fact that symptoms and their pattern differ due to 1) men tend to externalise symptoms while women tend to internalise. There's lots of data on that. 2) while all humans have the three basic needs or motivations of control/power/influence, achievement/self-efficacy, and attachment/affiliation/belonging, there are gender differences in how strong those needs are that are mediated by sex hormones and social environment/culture. Higher need for power is associated with testosterone while higher need for affiliation/attachment is associated with estrogen and oxytocin. Now this is a tendency and everyone needs to have their needs met, but the higher the need the more suffering and dysfunction a frustration of that need (or motivation) will be. In therapy there should always be a focus on helping the person cope with frustrations and find ways to satisfy their needs, taking into account the individual and their experiences. That being said, a "typical male" with mental illness that is externalising and has a high need for control would benefit from being taught how to establish boundaries and respect other peoples boundaries and how to feel in control of themselves and their emotions first and foremost, while a "typically female" mental illness expression benefits the most from bonding experiences and emotional validation. That doesn't mean that men don't need that, it just means that they might bond in a different way and that focusing on a domain that is less of an issue for them will neglect the domain that they need more support in, which is a sense of control. Hence, when the therapist focused on emotional validation instead of his sense of control his needs got frustrated and he didn't feel it helped him deal with his depression.

Anecdotal - it's true for me.

if you're suggesting that people don't need to see a therapist to help with depression i think you need to relearn what depression is. what causes many people to fail to get over their depression is that they are unable to recognise why they're depressed and what delusions they're having to cause those symptoms, as this is extremely difficult to achieve alone if not impossible. when the very way you think is disordered you can't just "be brave and face it".

@@luckerowl8990 True enough. I wasn’t suggesting that, but rereading my comment, it kind of sounds that way. Upon familiarizing your therapist with the condition, they can help you. I was referring more too RU-vid pod casters giving blanket advice for a complex condition.

It’s always best to fight depression with a community that loves you, gives motivation, and validates your feelings.

Everyone has sinned and we all fall short of God’s moral standard. And so the payment for our sins is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. So declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, and you will be saved.

@@andrewogilvie9051 What are you even talking about, have you read the bible carefully at least once? Most people are more moral than God

Interesting how you'd call it ignorance when so many people agree with what Chris and his guest are talking about here.

Yeah fuck that I'm not gonna keep scrolling, people are so fucking stupid on here

​@@henrysjolinMany people also think the earth is flat. It has literally zero relevance to whether or not it's true.

@@thorstmixx Sure, but neither does dismissing a claim as "ignorant" without elaborating on why it is. All I'm saying Chris has a strong following for a reason

@@henrysjolin Just because everyone agrees doesn't mean it isn't ignorance. A lot of people think the earth is flat but that doesn't make it any less round.

Respect is something that is earned. Not given. Courtesy on the other hand is something you give even to someone you are about to execute.

@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj be sure to pay respect to the dead

Based.

We need to stop at male because the way mental health works is generic in its field and it helps women with how women think and operate... It stops at male because men don't get the treatment they need and deserve when it comes to mental health... And the way men work is different than the way women work...

You're not wrong but the point that male depression differs from female is still in there.

@@martijnoerlemans765 I agree, really tired of all the male outlets for talk always turns into well women.... instead of just focusing on men for 1 fucking second.

true

Those feelings must genuinely be validated in order for that person to move forward. Bitterness isn’t the healthiest approach to solve your problems.

All children need to be provided with structure, and taught responsibility. That is a basic developmental need, it's not a gender thing

You can do both!

“What are you going to do about it?”. I’d recommend you to build your own moral compass and make it your life goal. As long as your moral code of conduct intact after how many time you fall, you’ll just have to do what’s right and move on with it. At least that’s how I live my life, I help the needy during my free time and absolutely uphold my code in any moment and I probably will until I take my last breath on this earth. Lately I’ve been studying different religions then comparing them with each other and I’m not trying to follow any religion but I’ll take what seems to be common between these scriptures and live my life by the code. Hope it’ll help you to figure some things out in your life. Have a nice day mate.

I don't think so

@@user-zp4de5lq9i Bro, let’s just get to the point, this guy needs to be loved. Having a loving support system is crucial to solving big problems.

Fax

THIS! Hopes it getts better, buddy.

It's not okay to be where you are right now if right now you're in a genuinely bad mental place making genuinely crappy decisions. But beyond that I agree with everything you said

There is no such thing as depression except as inviting sadness and then deciding not to let it leave. Just another form of cognitive dissonance.

Your dad sounds wonderful. But he cannot keep you from having depression. If something caused your serotonin levels to dip you would 100% experience depression like everybody else. Depression is not sadness. It is a physical disease.

You just described being sad.@@elyse443

Jake sounds like you’re doing a fine job and have reached the perfect balance of lovingness and strength/harshness. Keep doing what you’re doing, I never had that

W DAD

Nothing you said there can't be done by a mother.

Nice! A father that’s finally aware of the balance.

Will do the same if it was a different gender?

Yeah, different but equal. Differences are what make our species so strong and resilient and that's why we should appreciate each other for what we have to offer instead of putting each other down

What happened next ? Did you confront your troubles

Was there any love presented? There needs to be a balance. Sure, he taught a lesson but it doesn’t completely patch up those wounds from inside..

Yeah but men dont get nearly the amount of emotional attention as women do

facts, depression is a symptom of poor physical health most of the time. for 90% of people, fixing your diet, sleep, exercise, and routine will make depression go away.

@@callanc3925 Agreed. The few times that you’re depressed by some genetic fault is extremely rare. Pharmaceutical companies love to treat the symptoms they themselves may have caused.

​@@callanc3925pure bullshit if it's severe it's not gonna help anyway

This! All that gender wars is only useless poralization. New psychology is needed

Nooo. Men must feel superior to women yet underdogs all the tiiime.

Non binary depression this, non-sense gender classifications that? Why do you bother chiming in as a failed man?

You said:"At home we are allowed to be be ourselves." That’s the problem… Who allows who? Who needs to feel allowed to be oneself?? Society makes us frustrated on so many levels then we think all of this is normal feeling.

@miriades we allow our partner to have a safe place to process the frustrations of society and the demands of surviving. Love with understanding can create a safe place two share, where they have each other's back.

@@kittenhrdr You're actually right.

@@miriades thanks for the support 🙏

That is true even in men groups to whine lol, not only to their partners. But they do not exhibit the topic of depression

Men mostly want to feel capable for themselves. Like - we dont learn how to fix a car so we be adored for our ability to fix a car - we just want t have that skill. Coz its in our nature to want to get things done. And look at male power fantasy - Thor, Hulk, Blade, Superman, Batman - we just enjoy power and capability. (Also why Tyler from Fight club is so popular)

No, its not same. I will have people who love me but I feel useless and like a load on them. I know that's not how they feel about me but I am built to feel that way it's not a conscious decision I made.

@Kevo Walkerso what are you going to do about this?

@@AnonymousIRL hell for you maybe

It is a big part of it. Depression has been described as anger at the self. It can have roots in interiority and perfectionism, and the root of both is pride. Pride = ego. This is an oversimplification but I want to make a point the the perfectionism, anger, and entitlement that results in a few cases of depression can orginate in deeply imbued internal schemas that translate pride/ego or in other terms self-esteem. Low self-esteem and "high self-esteem" (the narcissistic type) are both egoic and find their resolution in humility. This being because anger at the self for your life circumstances or self image slowly dissipates as entitlement goes down and and personal responsibility goes up. The eastern Orthodox church teaches this in a way kind of. I heard it in a somewhere. My explanation has probably muddled it but I hope it illustrates a point.

The issue is most men are depressed because they feel lonely, unloved and unwanted.... So the key to treating that is to not make them feel those things? Man these blokes have lost the plot entirely

@@2ELI7E depression is always a sign of unmet needs, it can be caused by a myriad of things from nutritional deficiencies to lack of affectionate bonds, it's the task of a therapist to find the reasons and solutions in each individual person. But the best prevention is a social environment that is attuned to a child's needs and helps them learn coping skills and to meet their needs. For the longest time it was normal to neglect and traumatise children of any gender. Today, while the situation has improved for girls overall compared to lets say 100 years ago, it is still normalised to neglect boys in traditional ways in many places and families. It is true that needs differ in strength and expression but we are still all humans with the same basic built.

@@2ELI7E even if they WOULD base these assumptions on existing data, it would be like saying "oh men need a little less emotional bonding than women? Let's give them none of it then". It's actually so insane and misguided.

​@@pandapanda246 those unmet needs are the biological need to create. Men need to feel powerful not loved.

@@jamesharvey1720 incorrect and lacking scientific foundation. This is simply bioessentialist misinformation. Even men, believe it or not, are human beings and have the needs that are universal for humans. Attachment and affection are part of that. Rejecting this is actually indicative of attachment wounds that a lot of men have due to cultural beliefs like this one that men don't need affection and attachment.

As a woman I agree. I’d rather be told “what can you do about that” after validating the actual feeling being felt, which is an important first step regardless of gender.

Incorrect, men have been content forever because the role of protecting, stoicism and respectfulness not only drives us but fulfils us as well. The illusion that we will be happier if we relinquish control of our emotions and succumb to the lack of a role a man is given in todays modern society, is unfathomably destructive and detrimental to men’s mental health and well-being.

@@chagarro5459 No, you misunderstand. Men literally have higher rates of suicide when raised in the traditional values of men because they don't know how to handle their emotions. The solution to this isn't to spoil them rotten and teach them to be complacent, which is what we've done. The true answer is balance between the two. Teach them its okay for men to feel sadness, and how to express it, and how to ask for help, but ALSO how to work hard, be responsible and be strong.

@@TheGrumbliestPuppyyou’re close, except that everything talked about goes for women too.

​@Grumbles No, men have higher suicide rates because they use more violent and damaging methods in their attempts. It's a solution for them. It has nothing to do with the value systems under which they're raised. Women attempt suicide more because it's one of their ways of calling for help. I am NOT saying this in a bad manner, but it's one way women and girls seek attention for their problems.

@@chagarro5459 It's so weird that folks have this warped, rose tinted view of historical masculinity when really just about any historical male figure you care to think of was an alcoholic, abuser or worse. Men in the past were not ok, much less content.

Imagine being in a marriage that’s void of feelings. There’s no way for humans to bond intimately without feelings and vulnerability. Repressing your feelings only leads people to isolation because we never bond with anyone. What we actually need is a balance of both

Stoicism is a side effect, not the goal. If being stoic is your goal, then you already failed at your first step.

@@PlayshotKalo Your feelings are a product of your desires. Therefore, what are your desires a product of?

@@anaximanderofapollonia9842 id wager to say that desires are uncontrollable because we have no true free will.

@@bokchoiman How so? As in, if "I do want X" is beyond my control, is "I do NOT want X" also beyond my control? Also, can you force yourself into wanting something? And what would be your reference point for "true freedom/free will?

What exactly was toxic about men not finding solace in being told everything is going to be ok vs tangible measures to take back control of their lives?

@@theezenriarinze9203 you misunderstood me. I did not say that the video promotes toxic standards, in fact it just kind of misrepresents something that is actually true, which is that men differ in how they prioritise, experience and express needs from women on average, and that mental health professionals are often not schooled in how mental illnesses differ in symptom expression between the genders. What I said is that I am saddened that some people in the comment section take this video as "proof" or agreeing that men don't have any emotional needs to be met, which is false and a toxic cultural belief. Just because men's need for control has a higher priority doesn't mean that needs for bonding and emotional validation are irrelevant or nonexistent. Clearly, if what you lack is a sense of control that needs to be addressed, especially if it has been neglected so far. That does not conclude to being the only need men have.

​@@theezenriarinze9203Because barely any therapist tells men "everything is going to be okay". It's make believe to rile people up.

@@pandapanda246 The only people who seem to misunderstand this video are unilateral thinkers, aka socially manufactured sophists. If any of you think following his advice, literally word for word, is the first action to be taken, and a good choice of action at that, then honestly I feel sorry for you and I hope you all get to work on that aspect of thinking. Most people (men in this thematic aspect) today are pampered and matured in false educations as to fall into this trap. Into a false sense of understanding, which funnily creates problems such as these.

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A lot of people have testified about this and I really want to give it a shot. I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels

Shrooms was definitely the best trip I ever had. It was amazing!

Is he on instagram?

YES very sure of bergwilly11__. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

Right now is that the case? Yes technically For 99% of human history has that been the case? Not so much. Strong and accountable has traditionally been the mans responsibility.

​@@callanc3925 human history is so full of shit that is hard to look at something without being afraid is stained of that same shit. Tradition luckily is dying. and we should let it die in peace