Mental health limit. please Chill people 

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Control your feelings. Never allow others to control you. If you can’t do this then you need help. A normal person will not allow others to control them or theirs feelings. Those that have this is stem from child hood issues. Remember that the things that happened while you grew up should not follow you into adulthood.

As I tell the children I teach, create no hate online. I do not subscribe to sticks and stones etc etc etc

Freedom of speech! You can't let a dipstick bully people on RU-vid.

I asked a simple question on FB not knowing cause i missed the previous nights live stream. sorry but not. part of putting content out to the world is taking all critasism.

😂😂😂 wtf now I can’t un-see it

Right?

So true thay need to stop fighting in the hobby but fight for the hobby

Hi Zoe , People need to learn some stuff and you are missing ! Take Care In Whatever Your Endeavours Takes You .😉

I fly my FPV drones also just to relax a bit. But all the videos from all you guys is also a big part of what I enjoy about this hobby. But when you guys are feeling down or angry then it also affects my own serenity. Thank you for alway sounding so cheerfull. I enjoy that part of your videos just as much as the content itself.

Zoe, you and stu are fpv treasures. Thank you.

Damn Zoe, you are an O.G. of FPV. The community loves you. I would love to see more content from you.

He shouldn't have sent the letter, but does that warrant the entire FPV community to mobilize itself and cancel him in response? Not only is cancel culture incredibly cruel, but in the end, what do we expect to accomplish for our community? The content creators involved had already responded to DroneCamps's offense in a professional, productive, and, importantly, polite way. This was the most probable way for DroneCamps to go back on his decision and apologize for the behavior. In my opinion, Bardwell went a little harder than necessary in his emails, but I can understand that he probably felt threatened for his friend, too. However, the community response DEFINITELY didn't help the situation. Emotions flew loose and miscalculations were made. Hundreds or thousands of individuals typed and regurgitated the same things the involved creators had already said, but many comments expressed amplified tonality. What should anyone expect out of DroneCamps at this point? Contrary to (surprisingly) popular belief, alienating an individual does NOT get them to cooperate. It does precisely the opposite- it backs them into a corner and activates their defense mechanisms, locking them into a downhill battle. And that's exactly what we're seeing- DC has doubled down on defending his position, even though we all know that his specific reasons are total bulls**t. Time and time again, too many people forget or simply ignore this, and in the end, nobody is happy. I'm not happy. You aren't happy, nor is DroneCamps, Botgrinder, or anyone else. If DroneCamps's mental health wasn't bad before, you can bet as hell it's shot now. And it if WAS bad before, then this could end tragically. Mental health is a serious issue, and I hope you can understand that sometimes right and wrong cease to matter in situations like this. Our objective at this point shouldn't be to say "he should have done Y instead" or "he should do B now," but rather, it should just be to do what WE should do. And sometimes, what we should do- what's right for humanity and most beneficial for our beloved hobby, is to do nothing.

@@Art1f4ct Yeah it was silly for him to do that, but I also agree with you 100%, Very well put comment 👍

⁠​⁠@@Art1f4ct you talk about “cancel culture” as if it hasn’t always existed, regardless of when through history you go or where you go, if someone does something that the people around them don’t agree with then they will get negative comments or treatment towards them, that is just how society works and has always worked. When people put themselves out to a larger audience then the effects are also larger. I am not responsible for anyone else’s actions or mental health. Mental health is not an excuse or shield against everything. You are basically saying we should never say anything negative incase it upsets someone, do you not see any problem with that? People don’t get a free pass just because they are upset or depressed. “We” do not need to consider what “we” should do at all, the majority of people have done nothing wrong. There is an easy solution here for him, admit fault and apologise and then people would have moved on by now, but instead he doubled down on it and still refuses to admit fault and continues to act like a child, in his comments sections he has been throwing insults at botgrinder, JB and blunty, particularly blunty, saying he smells and lives in his mums basement.

​@@conorstewart2214I don't believe I implied anywhere that cancel culture hasn't always existed. I do need to amend, though, that I personally usually use the term with a negative connotation to represent events involving at least some toxicity (and usually occurring over the Internet), but I believe my usage is a bit inaccurate. I agree, though, that the underlying process of boycotting and calling-out (which are better ways to describe cancel culture anyways) is an important part of how our society functions. We humans need to get along and cooperate to thrive and survive, and the pain mechanism of social rejection is an important aspect that keeps our individual behaviors in line with what is best for our society. I didn't mean to shift the blame entirely to "us" for taking part in it. I do not believe that we should never say anything negative, but I believe there are limits to the amount of negativity we should express. Admittedly, though, I cannot objectively define where that limit should be. Drawing the line between overprotection and toxicity is impossible because it depends on the situation (plus the individual) and it depends on how much you value individual versus group wellbeing, which of course is a battle that has been and always will be swinging one way or another. The purpose of cancel culture, and other forms of criticism, is to correct an individual's thinking or behavior. From what I've witnessed on the Internet, though, hate speech on the scale of events like this one seldom accomplish that role, and more often than not, it results in the offender doubling down on their position, pushing back harder and harder as the public objection increases, which as you pointed out is exactly what we're seeing from DC. I believe that this is caused by the fight-or-flight instinct (animals fight when severely threatened and flee when mildly threatened), but I don't know enough about these topics to be able to claim that this is actually true. This is a difficult line to walk because the words above make it sound like I'm saying individuals such as DC have "no control" of themselves but of course that isn't true. However, we are not logical machines. We are human, and countless chemical mechanisms like this are always affecting our behaviors. You claim that admitting fault and apologizing should be easy for DC, but it simply isn't. Regardless of the exact situation, this same plot plays out the exactly the same every time. DC, or someone else in his position, does something stupid or reckless, gets canceled, and turns aggressive in response, devolving to their basic animal instincts while they fight for their life (from their perspective). When the community backs off, they can cool down, but when they don't, they remain engaged in a pointless battle that only causes more harm to everyone involved. You are not responsible for anyone else's actions or mental health, but you do have a voice, and your voice does have an impact. People on the Internet are more likely to say harsher things while worrying less about their consequences- for one, you don't have to worry about being punched in the face, and for two, you typically don't see their reaction to your words, which would typically trigger some degree of empathy. You may think you know how the words will be received by DC, but the fact is that you cannot know for sure. You may think you know how he feels, but that's less likely than you think to be true (and the same for me of course; my entire position is built around the /possibility/ that he feels as I suspect, but I cannot deny the possibility that he is just a sellout douche after all). The ending of my last comment was worded poorly. What I should have concluded was that we should say no more needless defamation or insults to DC (especially the insults). But yes, we should still respond according to our takes- unsubscribing and ceasing to watch his videos, for example. And what was already said by Botgrinder and his friends who spread the word was also necessary to an extent, because without any of that, casuals like me might not even know what happened. Additionally, I meant to say that *this* act of cancelation was pointless, and that was why we should do nothing. My conclusion is based on my own and others' interpretation that DC is not responding logically, and he will not back down, so we should quit trying to persuade him. The longer this runs for, the worse off our hobby and community becomes.

He is making a clown of himself and seeing the repercussions now.

What's funny is, only a complaint sheep would even consider remote I.d

He also told Bot “don’t be a pussy” when he made his first response video then took it down. But let’s all be gentle with his feelings.

​@@k1ortia truth 👊

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Lmfao 😂😂

Aww man. Go easy on him 😂

It’s also a straight 4. Soooo there’s lots that’s wrong with that car.

a great quote! and the reason I am so quiet :)

Yep !

Sometimes everyone needs to hear things that they will feel aren’t “nice” to regulate and remain in reality.

Your mother is part of the problem. Go ahead and tell her I said that

That attitude is for children, and your mother was right to teach it to you as a child. However, as an adult that no longer applies. It basically means "try not to hurt anyone's feelings". Which, these days, means worrying about every word you say, every thing you laugh at, everything you do, hoping not to offend someone. That's no way to live. We need to move back to accepting criticism, accepting the fact that sometimes we don't agree and don't all get along. That was more wholesome than "be nice or be quiet". Seems safer, to me, in many aspects, also.

Is the new movie worth watching. Haven't really looked into it

@@MrDrakeSirlit i liked it. Its a little cheesy, but funny, and decent story

you have just written your own thesis on evidence that DC shows the signs of someone who is vulnerable. Is a trapped animal that bites deserving of retribution. Does the following sound reasonable Individual A makes a seemingly negative comment Individual B reacts inappropriately as they are not balanced Everyone piles on to give Individual B a good psychological kicking Would you understand that people piling on, are responsible for the damage caused to individual B as much as individual B is responsible for their actions to individual A. He is saying "try not do become the mob thowing punches". Stu understands. I hope you are able to look a little further.

​@@doccock100 if someone is vulnerable, then they shouldn't be posting RU-vid videos online for the world to see.

@@mikeb1596 I don't think that you would have any youtube videos to watch if that were the case. Vain movie stars, narcissistic politicians.. how about those? is there any appreciation of your role as a gatekeeper. Could you use your judgement and choose to not watch people you don't want... at the very least, not then take to your keyboard to insult them. If only shouldn't was wouldn't, but it's not, nor will ever be.

⁠​⁠@@doccock100even IF he is vulnerable, it does not justify anything. Lets say he is vulnerable: are you telling me his partner wouldn’t interfere? How does this explain his reaction to Individual C writing him and trying to bring some sense to him? Lashing out further and further in this case doesnt show that he is vulnerable but just that he is behaving like a d*ck. This could result in having been bullied in the past, sure- but having been bullied should not be an excuse whatsoever.

clearly you dont know him in person lol. what you see on youtube is all for show.

Bot is really kind

He didn't mention props at all.

now im drunk. thanks stew

I dont think i was mixed in. Im fine. Just asking people to be kind to others

What are you doing man! Get your drone gear and fly, I need you out here flying, I need you happy mate. Upload for you, not for others. You got this!

@@AngelWingrc You're right. I need me happy too, mate.

@@TheOneAndOnlyRandy ofc man you deserve it eh, happy flying!!

This is the bit that scares me about all this - That someone's mental health might be balancing so precariously that comments on the internet drive them over the edge. Fix the underlying issues first, methinks (we've all been there at some stage). Staying away from the web (as practically as you can) is probably a good option if things are not looking good mentally. The internet shows human nature in an unfiltered way, and it's never going to be a 'nice' place, per se. There's a heap of good, and a heap of bad. I like your philosophy.

Sorry to hear. Just to clear im not saying dont be critical. Its how we learn etc. im just saying those people who do more personal name calling etc dont help