We had a Land Rover- sold it because it was always in the shop Broken that- leaking this- electronics not working right- Bad sensors- got rid of it right after the warranty expired Have had a G class Mercedes since Only 1 issue - 1 bad spark plug Otherwise just oil changes and brake pads and usual service Now 10 years old-347,108 miles runs great to this day We take it off-road monthly in the desert of CA- no freeway baby miles- No driveway Queen- She was up to her steps in mud two weeks ago and did great! Sold On Benz!
legend has it, that the rest of the off roaders are sitting around the fire at night and tell stories of the legendary adventures of the G-class and the Defender, jealous that they can't even come close
@@drueskillz Jeep is good on mud because of the light weight, as is the Jimny. Defender is in a class of its own because of chassis, axles and brutal torque curve of diesel engines..
I live in Jamaica and have a 94 Discovery 1, 200tdi, which I love. I don't play games with it like these guys, though. It's a work vehicle, not a toy. Can't afford to destroy it by being foolish.
Adam Chabni. Basically those tires seemed over pressurized they need minimal air pressure than their normal pressure. In doing so It'd improve wider tire footprint for better grip and will also reduce vehicles bouncing uncontrollably. BTW Nice video. "Land Rover!"
The SUZUKI JIMNY at a third of the cost of the cheaper of these two vehicles, would put them both to shame!ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GE2W93FBdo8.html
i would have to say the defender is the best simply because of the alluminium body and it being simple and cheap to fix compaired to the merc, although both are great 4x4's
The Landy has raised suspension which as you can see, is a major hindrence to it climbing. Also has bead lockers to stop tyres being torn off..but neither modification helps with the climbing.
While the low-end gearing is there on both of these two SUV's, it all boils down to tires, tires, and tires (type of tires and the right pressure for them in tackling such)
The Defender sounds amazing, what are you running? Also I know the Merc has factory axle lockers, have you fitted diff locks to the Landy or did it get up on open diffs?
@watannen the Def. is bouncy cos it has HUGE lift competition springs on it and a tilt axel set up. alsonote how much easier it got up the hill in the first place. It may not have the most powerful engine, but landrover have done such an amazing job at transfering the power to the wheels, with the low range gearbox engaged it has no trouble gettin up there x
not just the tires, the lifted clearance raises center of gravity, so i believe a non modified vehicle of the same types could have made it easier, with only proper "not over sized" tires
@watannen What you need to look at is the torque curve, Landies tend to have better low down torque but it drops off at higher revs, so if you spin a wheel it loses torque. The G has a higher torque peak, so when it starts spinning it gets worse. In this case the Defender got over in less tries, but I don't claim that's a definitive test. But then there's the cost, a Defender can be had in most cases for the cost of servicing the G (slight exaggeration), well maybe servicing and tires.
the G had better tires but shorter wheel base.the defender had sucky tires but had a little longer wheel base.the defender won because of that,great truck
@ZionW0lf That's one of the things that i was saying. The G has a more powerful engine and i think the driver stepped on it a bit too hard and that is why it lost traction and spun its wheels instead of getting up the first time just as the Defender did.
if you want a modified mercedes g: the swiss armed forced will sell all of them (about 20'000 i think). very good stuff, i was driving one as i was in the army.
Both trucks make it to the top of the obstacle, but the Land Rover does it with less fuss, and on the second attempt. Also the Land Rover looks like it has raised suspension, which will not help on a hill like this, as it raises the centre of gravity.
In the Late 1970's when Persia (Iran) was ruled by the Shah he was the main share holder in Mercedes Benz, as there was a revolution in the making the shah wanted a reliable and versatile vehicle that was not only reliable and comfortable but one that could be easily adapted for military use and all the variations needed. Then in 1978 the G wagen was in production built by hand in Austria. You either love them or hate them ! Most people who have 4x4's don't even go off road so shouldn't comme
I finished the video and though, great, finally a video that not showing bias for or against something. Just 2 guys in 2 different off-roaders, having fun. Then I read the comments, and alot of people must have been watching a different video than me. They both won, because they both made it.
@watannen yeh, the gearing is reallyhigh ratio aswell. But the fact stands that the landy obviously dosent need a more powerful engine cos its designed in this way. its much more efficient annd at least 4 times cheaper lol (as many have already said, u could buy 4 brand new def 90's for the same price as 1 G x
@ZoracYTManager Engine size/power isn't entirely immaterial, esp on hills. "Power hill" isn't just an American concept. More torque would allow the use of a higher gear (low 2nd/3rd) which would help suppress wheelspin on the ascent. A 500cc engine would have to be geared so low that there'd be "zilch" energy/momentum & traction would be lost pretty much @ the base
although a landrover owner and fan, love the merc g wagon too. the defender dont sound like its got a tdi or td5 in it though. stunning scenery though.
NL land army: Mercedes, our Royal Navy: Land Rover 110 XD's: experience in the sandy dunes: marines in LR 110's: no problem running around (standard), Mercedes (loaded also) stuck mostly; after at least 2 wheel/ tire combinations + diff locks could do the same. Weight distribution is key: LR front axle remains about same load while vehicle is fully loaded; Mercedes LWBase: rear axle pos effectively increases front ax load: earlier stuck.
Judging by your videos, you're actually not as far away as you could be. Not that far at all relatively speaking, but right now I'm trying to start a career. I've got street tires on my truck right now, being unemployed I can't afford gas getting that far north much less a repair if my rover decided to break. I've got a pipe dream of sticking a Defender body on that disco frame one day, maybe then. :P
@Gris110 Based on this video, where do yo see the defender is better? Disregarding the fact that the defender is heavily modded too, maybe it's just the driver? No doubt that both cars are great offroaders, but price is no argument when you're out there
Fergus 110 no, it was just the better driver. what does a defender have that a G doesnt have? then again a G has 3 diff locks and more power, a Defender doesnt
Fergus 110 heritage? Thats a plus point for the G, it is hand made and still produced in austria, graz. And the design? A defender looks cool, but so does the g
Funny how those, like HG, who could never afford a good car, say stupid things! LR is voted the N° 1 car in the world by one or other of the comparison sites almost every year. The Merc - if like the oneI had is just fit for the scrapyard; and, it is not only the driver but 90% of the success is the tyres. The film shows the difference. The LR Traction control is the best in the world. Sorry HG
Of course it is. This is what a Audi does to a Defender: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lTSd0iIYLlE.html In a G Wagon you wouldn't even notice you're pulling a Defender...even in the Caribbean Islands ;)
The comparison is not quite fair. The Landi had better tyres plus modified suspension. I think with the Landy-tyres the G would have gone up the hill the first time.
