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@AutosportOfficial
@AutosportOfficial 2 месяца назад
With the missed opportunities now adding up for McLaren, what do you think they need to do in the fight for the F1 Constructors Championship with Red Bull? How will Mercedes restore the driver’s faith in the team after Belgium, when at the end of the race nobody looked very happy at all? Let us know what you think in the comments below…
@johnmclaren3908
@johnmclaren3908 2 месяца назад
I think you’re misinterpreting Stella’s comments. I think Stella has realised how good Piastri is and is fully backing him. Norris is in trouble for me
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 2 месяца назад
Stella knows that Oscar will focus on addressing any weaknesses, in order to get the perfect race. Stella also understands that Oscar has already probably identified making better pit stops as a priority for his overall race pace management, so it’s nothing new to Oscar. Oscar is like Lewis and Max, in that he doesn’t need to be careful managed to get the best out of him.
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 2 месяца назад
The fact Oscar is already this competitive with Lando in his sophomore year and Lando is in his 5th season and still making basic mistakes gets overlooked way too much
@delebalogun9926
@delebalogun9926 2 месяца назад
Thats because Lando is British and Oscar is Australian. If Oscar was British every media will be singing his praises to the high heavens. I am British by the way.
@5150TJT
@5150TJT 2 месяца назад
6th season 117 GPs to 36GPs..
@ribeqahh
@ribeqahh 2 месяца назад
@@delebalogun9926if F1 had zero British drivers on the grid. It’d be a dead sport lol
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 2 месяца назад
@@delebalogun9926 Speaking as an Australian, F1 does have media coverage in Australia but not same extent as the British media. Due to time differences, most races happen late at night, it’s only Australian F1 diehards that actively follow the sport all year. So outside of the Australian GP, media coverage in Australia is limited one race report or to driver changes that impact Danny Ric or Oscar.
@russ99a
@russ99a 2 месяца назад
This seems ridiculous, Lando had to deal with every kind of issue and underperforming cars, and now when McLaren has things sorted, Piastri is all of a sudden better. Let’s see how Piastri deals with a good chunk of a season of adversity before anointing him team leader.
@markgerrard1892
@markgerrard1892 2 месяца назад
The tire clag argument is silly. This isn't the first time they've run at Spa so they know about not having the cool down lap.
@aaawac2174
@aaawac2174 2 месяца назад
Another thing to add is 5 other cars did 1 stops but they all weighed in properly so it's not a marble pickup issue.
@Brad_Black
@Brad_Black 2 месяца назад
@@aaawac2174 exactly. I don’t get how these guys in such a privileged position can be so smooth brained sometimes
@AndrewLeaberry
@AndrewLeaberry 2 месяца назад
Also apparently the fia can make you put on your tires from the first stint to weigh the car. So obviously those would have any extra “pick up”
@kwakekamdivasi591
@kwakekamdivasi591 2 месяца назад
F1 is all about narratives and it's quite annoying at times
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 2 месяца назад
Oscar has a lot of similarities to a young Lewis Hamilton imo. I think if oscar gets the right car (which he currently has) he can do some damage with wdc titles. I also think he's one of the smartest drivers on the grid and is a very quick learner which has some similarities to Alain Prost.
@markhill9275
@markhill9275 2 месяца назад
Wrong! Oscar is VERY similar to Alan Jones, reserved extremely hard nut!
@GrizeldaOConnor
@GrizeldaOConnor 2 месяца назад
Yes they both started by wo Ning remote con troled car races at 6 years old !!!
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад
I think Oscar is a generational talent and it’s only a matter of time until he surpasses Lando. _It’s going to be hard to watch._
@gilvansouza
@gilvansouza 2 месяца назад
Lando once again making mistakes at the start, it just ruons his race. The fact that Piastri already jave the raw pace to match in only his second year and getting better every race os certainly cause for concern for Lando. He needs to clean up his starts and also in my opinion sharpen his wheel to wheel as well.
@rpcorp
@rpcorp 2 месяца назад
Oscar will earn #1 status by end of year
@ribeqahh
@ribeqahh 2 месяца назад
Oscar is already better than Lando Norris. will finish 2nd in the WDC too.
@rahimstarc3545
@rahimstarc3545 2 месяца назад
Oscar is absolutely the better driver. Has a racers mindset. Identify your weakness and eliminate it. Lando more focused on other people and things he can’t control
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад
I thought “no shot” at first but he’s only 32 points behind is definitely doable.
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 2 месяца назад
I think Stella cost oscar the race in pitting him on lap 29 and not going long. Piastri had just done fastest lap and then stella pitts him. If oscar goes long there is no way lewis was getting past him. Oscar was also 5 seconds ahead of Russell when they pitted oscar.
@Azmania3000
@Azmania3000 2 месяца назад
Leclerc's defence ended Oscars challenge for P1. He needed clean air. All it took was the pit error. Having said that the engineers weren't on top of the metrics for the ideal window
@hilroydaniels5109
@hilroydaniels5109 2 месяца назад
Mercedes will say that it's the trye wear because they don't want to admit the the car was underweight.
@russtaylor385
@russtaylor385 2 месяца назад
The underweight was not because of tyre pick up issues. FIA can put spec wheels on if they think the pick up is too much. It’s not fuel as that is irrelevant. Could be excess weight loss elsewhere. Oil, fluids, plank wear, Russell’s own weight etc. Fine margins are always used but it is a strict limit and you need to be on only one side of the line. Cock up is most likely explanation - it’s not as if they haven’t done it before.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise 2 месяца назад
We complain when 2 drivers at a team are mismatched because they aren't raking in maximum points and then as soon as a team gets 2 drivers that are both performing well we complain that they are too closely matched and say that the team has to prioritize one over the other. 2 strong drivers is what you want. Just start them on the same tires and tell them whoever is in front after 1 lap can choose whether they stop first or go long.
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 2 месяца назад
If Alain Prost had to deal with two great drivers as his teammates at McLaren, why can’t Lando? Alain Prost had Niki Lauda and Ayrton Senna as teammates. The difference here is that Lando is British and an Australian driver is starting to beat him regularly and the British media don’t like it now.
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад
Two strong drivers has its downsides particularly when they fighting a team that has a clear #1 driver for the WDC.
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 2 месяца назад
@@durodesduvo8424 The upside it forces two competitive drivers to up their game and to be better drivers. This was the when Senna and Prost were teammates at McLaren.
@GrizeldaOConnor
@GrizeldaOConnor 2 месяца назад
Well they are tilting at windmills to think Lando has a remote chance of challenging for WDC​@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад
@@GrizeldaOConnor Max won this year, I'm thinking if McLaren can keep up this momentum for 2025, _(and that is not a guarantee at all)_ if they have both drivers fighting for the WDC against Max in near equal machinery, then Max wins by default, because his teammate isn't taking points off him.
@SuperPassionflower
@SuperPassionflower 2 месяца назад
Keep Ronald Vording in the mix! he really is the best Dutch F1 journalist! a real journalist.
@nicholasriley3569
@nicholasriley3569 2 месяца назад
Second that. Ronald's insights are really good.
@vMaxHeadroom
@vMaxHeadroom 2 месяца назад
It wasn't the weight but the team no letting hamilton know he was actually racing hiis own team mate...If he had been told immediatly he would have uipped his pace and taken him..
@WH0oo...
@WH0oo... 2 месяца назад
You forgetting, HAM is D2 Persona non grata now, LOL. Silly fans.
@johnstanp9692
@johnstanp9692 2 месяца назад
​​@@WH0oo...And yet he has two wins 😂
@josephineowili3435
@josephineowili3435 2 месяца назад
​@@WH0oo...the silly one here is actually your sorry self
@micsunday14
@micsunday14 2 месяца назад
I think the Russell DQ being blamed solely on cool down lap rubber pick up is incorrect. Why didn't all the cars DQ then. No one got a cool down lap😂
@toodsf1
@toodsf1 2 месяца назад
Everyone knows there is no in-lap after the race at Spa - which applies to all competitors - so this is clearly irrelevant. Alonso, Stroll, Tsunoda and Magnussen also 1-stopped I'm pretty sure and car 63 was the only underweight car in the field, so I'm not convinced by this argument. Maybe the others accounted for it pre-race because they knew they were going to 1-stop? Whereas Russell and Merc switched strategy on the fly? Hmm I suspect it was an error unrelated to tyres tbh
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
Lando will do what danric did...he will leave and will go backwards from there.
@charlesmatthews5592
@charlesmatthews5592 2 месяца назад
No Mercedes was being slick not telling Lewis spin king.
@sibiyu67
@sibiyu67 2 месяца назад
i think alex has been covered this sport for years,, one car is illegal and the other one is legal, so its not the same car,, what are you talking about?? stop the narrative man.. what he saying is just like a personal opinion.. jeez
@robatnic
@robatnic 2 месяца назад
Yeah! and also Alonso did a one stopper and his car was not under weight.
@mizzouriv3637
@mizzouriv3637 2 месяца назад
@@robatnic and TSU
@sibiyu67
@sibiyu67 2 месяца назад
I dont want to be rude here, but F1 should ban him or them on attending another F1 press conference in the future,, poor journalistic content as he put (maybe) his personal opinion on the show, just because he saw george face turn like a thunder after the press conference??
@robertwlittlejohn
@robertwlittlejohn 2 месяца назад
Lando's chance at a WDC this year disappeared in Austria when he was dive-bombing Max and got knocked out of the race. Now its about maximising points as they have a great chance at a WCC...no favourites, just who is ahead on the day get first choice of pitting. Lando has a habit of burning his tyres up to make a point of how fast he is... like he did in front of Piastri in hungary and behind Ricciardo in Monza...he's a super fast driver but Piastri is getting close to matching him, but with a much better emotional control.
@JordanAlbone
@JordanAlbone 2 месяца назад
Why did none of the other one-stoppers weigh in underweight?
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
Because the FIA didn't check all of the cars, once they had George that was it.
@JordanAlbone
@JordanAlbone 2 месяца назад
@@semadragun What are you on about? They weighed 19 cars after the race and all were within regulations apart from Russell. Literally google “FIA weight checks Belgian Grand Prix" and you’ll see the official document right near the top. Maybe do some research next time before you comment mate 👍🏽
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
@@JordanAlbone No they didnt..WTF are you on about?
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
Says the bot with a bot username fark off
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
If you did your research you wouldn't have asked this question. Maybe you should do your RESEARCH before you comment yeah....mate?
@Casualfan94
@Casualfan94 2 месяца назад
Lando could end up like Mark Weber
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад
Oof … poetic oof
@Hydrnaught
@Hydrnaught 2 месяца назад
What, Australian?
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
Or even worse like danric.
@bobbymoto1675
@bobbymoto1675 2 месяца назад
Just take weights with the tires off after the race. They are spec wheels and tires, no reason you can't just subtract that from 798kg requirement. But at the same time, no one else was under weight, so I'm not going to take tire wear + no cooldown as gospel. Far more likely that they borked his initial weight. Nothing malicious, just a mistake and lost points.
@gregscales2960
@gregscales2960 2 месяца назад
Please stop this praising of George. He always so this when he doesn't have the pace of the top runners. He did this out of desperation with nothing to lose NOT because he used some great race car craft. It really shows the negative bias against Lewis. His drive was way more impressive than George's drive disqualification or not! Just teams not understanding tie wear so don't really understand the excuses for George. He probably didn't lift and coast enough because all he is concerned with is beating Lewis. I see why Merc trying to get a top driver post Lewis!
@russ99a
@russ99a 2 месяца назад
This argument is so tired, you can’t see the merit of this kind of performance in a vaccum showing growth as a driver that helps the team get better moving forward, it’s always all about Lewis.
@Plz9
@Plz9 2 месяца назад
Some interesting reflections including discussion about Oscar’s 2nd pitstop - so frustrating. Did I miss it in the discussion, or did the team get their due praise for the first pitstop being the fastest one of the race at 2.05s and McLarens first fastest pitstop for the 2024 season.
@tonychan9752
@tonychan9752 2 месяца назад
Ronald is one of the best young writers around at the moment.
@SuperPassionflower
@SuperPassionflower 2 месяца назад
He is very intelligent, very knowledgable, unbiased, and a true professional real F1 journalist, the best in NL imho
@TillURide420
@TillURide420 2 месяца назад
What happens if a car is on point with its weight at the start of the race and a piece breaks off during the race and is now underweight?
@TillURide420
@TillURide420 2 месяца назад
@@RaptorV1USA thank you 🙏 I’m curious as to what would happen in this situation. In all reality, I find this to be a very likely scenario to happen.
@rachelkoiks
@rachelkoiks 2 месяца назад
This shows how bad the Red Bull is. It isn’t the ceiling, because the RB-20 isn’t anywhere near to how well the McLarens are running. If Max can’t get it to P1, has run offs & complains about the balance, then surely that means the car is really, REALLY tricky & difficult to drive. Max has proven he can continue racing in the points even if his car is severely damaged. like Hungary ‘21, Silverstone ‘22, Baku sprint ‘23, etc. When I was trying to figure out who they would replace Perez with, it just made me wonder who’d be most suitable but it would be a for *this* car which is by far their worst in years. I say worst because it looks harder and harder for Max to even win A race. So with the gap times in mind and the top teams closer together, I’m less convinced it’s all on Checo to pick up the pieces. It’s more important to develop a car AT LEAST on/similar to McLaren’s level.
@ttronan
@ttronan 2 месяца назад
I think the reason for a lower than expected tyre degradation at spa is because of the new tarmac, which should be more smoother than the old one. I am also starting to like Oscar piastri for his great driving but with a calm mentality. A bit similar to Lewis, but I hope he shows more balls when it comes to dealing with max because you can’t let a rough guy own you.
@braneblackstock9708
@braneblackstock9708 2 месяца назад
Alonso had a similar race he did 31 laps on the hard and his car was not under weight…. Just saying so let’s stop the tires conspiracy Russell started the race under weight
@Hydrnaught
@Hydrnaught 2 месяца назад
Norris isn't a leader, he'll be barely good enough as #2 for Piastri.
@UKBIGBLUENATION1
@UKBIGBLUENATION1 2 месяца назад
Honest question. Can drivers take an additional lap at the end of the race? Or would there be some form of penalty
@russ99a
@russ99a 2 месяца назад
I’ve never seen a driver going from potential WDC winner this season to not being able to lead his team in one week. This F1 news cycle is bonkers.
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 2 месяца назад
Between Lando not delivering in crunch time and mclaren cocking up on strategy in the last 4-5 races will probably be the reason Max will win the WDC.. it’s too bad for us fans! It should’ve been a repeat of 21’
@JordanAlbone
@JordanAlbone 2 месяца назад
So a cheating of the rightful winner in the final race?
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 2 месяца назад
@@JordanAlbone no I think that didn’t quite come out right
@ttronan
@ttronan 2 месяца назад
You can also make a video on what might happen in the driver’s market next.
@reydogg21
@reydogg21 2 месяца назад
Russell deserves it? Hilarious!
@semadragun
@semadragun 2 месяца назад
100% agree they should get rid of DRS.
@muyamuraya6623
@muyamuraya6623 2 месяца назад
Would the weight difference be made up just by tyre wear? How come this has not happened before? Does not make sense.
@rulifaller8474
@rulifaller8474 2 месяца назад
Who cares about the constructors championship? McLaren have thrown away the drivers championship. RB had the dominant car only in the first 5 races, and in one of those Max had a DNF. Lando should Nynke at the very least be very close to Max, and given their car advantage that would have put him in absolute prime position for the drivers title. Instead him and the team have been messing up on an almost weekly basis. Replace Lando and McLaren with Ferrari and Vettel and they would have been absolutely ridiculed.
@darkassassinpubgmobile905
@darkassassinpubgmobile905 2 месяца назад
Great podcast
@jaylund521
@jaylund521 2 месяца назад
THAT RACE NEVER HAS A COOL DOWN LAP IT'S NO SURPRISE HAHAHAHA
@juggernaut316
@juggernaut316 2 месяца назад
Lando doesn't have the gumption to be a #1 driver
@delebalogun9926
@delebalogun9926 2 месяца назад
So that we are clear. George didn't force his strategy. Thats not how F1 works, and it's disappointing that you pundits didn't even realise that due to British bias. George made a suggestion, and based on what the team saw with Lewis tires that had plenty of rubber left, and their simulations, they agreed. Toto alluded to this in his interview. Drivers don't dictate their own strategy in F1. Poor punditry.
@Alisisme
@Alisisme 2 месяца назад
George did multiple times since 2022. Its funny with mercedes, they never let driver chose strategy before with Lewis and Bottas. But they did allow George. That how bias they are. They give him all the green light. And if you believe everything Toto said, then you’re fooling yourself.
@armandolobato455
@armandolobato455 2 месяца назад
Sorry, can't stand Alex.
@samadchowdhury7695
@samadchowdhury7695 2 месяца назад
😊😊
@JordanAlbone
@JordanAlbone 2 месяца назад
Piastri was 5 seconds behind Lewis with the gap staying the same until Lewis started losing time behind George. Let’s not act like Oscar somehow threw a win away 😂😂
@lemargasskin8397
@lemargasskin8397 2 месяца назад
his fault
@Alisisme
@Alisisme 2 месяца назад
All the praised of how great Russell is, is funny. Haven’t seen him come on top when he’s on the same strategy with everyone. He always needed a gamble strategy. That already shows his real level. Which is mediocre. What Lewis did to get the well deserved win from lights out easily dismissed by all these white british journalists because their white boy driver needed a lighter car to win and a gamble strategy. Luckily got a well deserved DSQ. No one deserved a win when they didn’t follow the regs. End of, be it your fav or not. Lewis got DSQ at cota but no one singing praise to his drive that rattled max that day. But when George did a mediocre drive and a gamble strategy, he is a genius, great drive. Absolute moronic to go for a gamble strategy. A desperate move from a mediocre driver.
@CatPicture001
@CatPicture001 2 месяца назад
Lando is still miles better, he had one bad race and this is the headline?!?! When it comes to Lando, sport journalists turn into F1 Twitter haters, doing everything they can, making these type of headlines to drag him down.
@agenech1239
@agenech1239 2 месяца назад
Oscar only caught up with the Mercs only after George packed the bus in front of Lewis. Thats y he got caught from 4s by Lewis.
@WH0oo...
@WH0oo... 2 месяца назад
HAM couldn't get past, showing his age. LOL
@russ99a
@russ99a 2 месяца назад
@@WH0oo...wasn’t his age, it was George getting a cleaner line out of La Source to deny the pass on the Kemmel Straight, Lewis always brakes late, and always runs onto the kerb around that corner.
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