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Meria, Scholar of Antiquity cEDH Gruul deck tech the new Urza 

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A Gruul Urza! NICE! Really similar just different colors. I have to say I like it. We have different combo options but the same gameplan potential. Urza had problems with combos but this doesn't.
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@revelmonger
@revelmonger Год назад
On one hand I can't sleep and it's 4am. On the other I get cEDH content.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
haha sorry!
@Serouzo
@Serouzo Год назад
Did you think of adding the artifact lands? With the commander out, the red artifact land becomes a dual land. You can tap them to help activate the commander's ability too.
@robertbauerle5592
@robertbauerle5592 Год назад
Yea I built a list and I run the red one and citadel, iffy on the citadel, but the red one seems like a pretty free and good include.
@itzmimz8238
@itzmimz8238 Год назад
I appreciate the hell out of you Mons. Once again coming in clutch with a deck tech for the exact commander I’m trying to brew
@derekmccoy2799
@derekmccoy2799 Год назад
You beat me too it! 🤣 I was just taking with a friend about doing the same thing with this commander. Awesome deck tech as always!
@Rewwgh
@Rewwgh Год назад
This is the DT I've been looking forward to the most. Gimme the good stuff Mons!
@matthewbrusca6434
@matthewbrusca6434 Год назад
When I saw this spoiled I new I'd be seeing a cedh TV video. Really excited for this one, big fan of artifact decks. Been tuning my breya deck for a while and I'm ready to build this
@christopherleonard9585
@christopherleonard9585 Год назад
if you have grafdiggers cage out when you go for the snoop combo just exile the torch courier off the top with Meria's ability.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
True!
@mandielyn0416
@mandielyn0416 Год назад
Been excited for this video!
@RodrigoCML7
@RodrigoCML7 Год назад
“But this forces us to play a bunch of goblins, yuck” Ah, a man of culture I see
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
haha
@iisaka_station
@iisaka_station Год назад
Hi Mons, no shade intended, but just so you (and everyone else) know, the red goblin Conspicuous Snoop is pronounced, Con-spick-you-ous snoop :) Conspicuous means “standing out,” or, “being obviously visible.” Many Americans too, struggle with the spelling of this word haha I have friends all the time who call it con-spish-ous, and it drives me insane 😂 I’m a writer. I guess that’s why. Thanks for the video! You’re my go-to guy for all things edh
@_jordaank_4970
@_jordaank_4970 Год назад
I’m so happy to see you put ghirapur aether-grid in the deck cause I thought about it immediately when this commander was revealed, perfect fit for this strategy and also one of my favourite cards
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
It is one of my favorites too.
@MasterDecoy1W
@MasterDecoy1W Год назад
If you follow the naming convention of "bolt", then: 3 damage = "bolt" 2 damage = "shock" 1 damage = "jab" However, most people I know call one damage a "ping". It's the onomatopoeia for a high-pitched metallic sound. On topic, she seems fine, but Urza bringing the Karn-struct and access to blue makes the comparison pretty surface-level. I'm going to try out Daryl before I even giver Meria a second look.
@EisenherzMTG
@EisenherzMTG Год назад
Great Deck Tech, love to see a commander both similar to Urza and also with Snoop lines. You are right on Howling Mine. It's such a bait. Once you play it your commander will be the main target for removal and suddenly all your opponents draw even more cards. Not a good include.
@daeosmusic1246
@daeosmusic1246 Год назад
I thought about it in my list but swapped eye of Veena. Draws when it enters and basically gives one draw per turn for one mana because it can help pay for its own ability.
@EisenherzMTG
@EisenherzMTG Год назад
@@daeosmusic1246 yup, that's why its seeing play in Urza as well.
@whatchar208
@whatchar208 Год назад
This is pretty meta dependent, but if you have a lot of interactive blue decks at the table you could include Gutteral Response
@StromkirkCurse
@StromkirkCurse Год назад
great content as always!!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Thank you!
@undird210
@undird210 Год назад
Pretty cool commander. Currently putting together a Raggadragga deck instead but this is interesting.
@geoffreygarfein9169
@geoffreygarfein9169 Год назад
I actually REALLY like this. I feel this has potential.
@HebrewHercules
@HebrewHercules Год назад
Ok i really am digging this deck. I really love that its gruul and not something gruul normally does. I wish i had more pieces for this so i can really build it in earnest.
@whitesmith5985
@whitesmith5985 Год назад
Sparks of cute lightning: PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PING PING PING PING PING
@richardlynch8706
@richardlynch8706 Год назад
Would love to see a primer on the moxfield site if possible! Thanks for the great content!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
A primer of what? Of the website moxfield?
@revelmonger
@revelmonger Год назад
What's your opinion on adding the wof+led combo for a more breach centric build.
@Angel-kk5bb
@Angel-kk5bb Год назад
Iv gotta say iv been watching your videos for a long time and I'm so happy you made a video with this commander. I was wondering well i was planning on making this a deck and if I send you a my deck list with this commander would you take a look at it and possibly give me some pointers?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Sorry. I only look at Patreons decklist. I get to many decklist to look at otherwise.
@ChildrenOfOwls
@ChildrenOfOwls Год назад
Great deck tech, really excited for gruul artifacts. By the way, conspicuous is pronounced Con-spick-you-us… super weird pronunciation I know haha even hard as a native English speaker
@NybarMTG
@NybarMTG Год назад
Very excited for this commander! I decided to go a more heavy stax version of the deck that includes food chain. I'm personally on blood moon and magus bc there's also null rod/ouphe/karn/and the orbs/spheres, so just overall denying all the mana seems good.
@shinigami_0127
@shinigami_0127 3 месяца назад
Same I also run lodestone golem Most of the time I can just run out a nycbloom ancient and just out ramp my own tax pieces
@nel2556
@nel2556 Год назад
This commander can be built in so many different ways! Here's what I was working on: www.moxfield.com/decks/TUbPLMy400CwEyrOIKNw7g
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
nice!
@davidpipes6805
@davidpipes6805 Год назад
My idea for this deck is along the Stax theme. The main combo is Karn and Mycosynth Lattice that locks down opponents from ever doing anything again. Forcing them to concede or guaranteeing you find a combo that shows a win.
@seregg6401
@seregg6401 Год назад
Valakut really starts to become a meme of this channel. If it has red then valakut can be added xd
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
It has always been a meme for this channel. hehehe.
@RandyTheSavage5150
@RandyTheSavage5150 Год назад
Very good deck tech. I have been brewing Meria and chose to go with KCI loops instead of Snoop lines. I'm using KCI+Scrap Trawler+Myr Retriever.
@HebrewHercules
@HebrewHercules Год назад
Could you explain this combo to me please idk what you mean by KCI
@whatchar208
@whatchar208 Год назад
@@HebrewHercules the card is krark clan ironworks
@HebrewHercules
@HebrewHercules Год назад
Ohhhhhh i know that card ok
@daeosmusic1246
@daeosmusic1246 Год назад
I'm on the same with senseis top loops as well. Check out battered golem if you haven't yet.
@zeroisnine
@zeroisnine Год назад
This card is nuts!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Yeah. I actually think it could go insde some other cEDH commander decks too.
@AndrewWoodford
@AndrewWoodford Год назад
I’m going Winconless with Elves and harder Stax. Root Maze, Manglehorn, and Titania’s Song.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
This makes me think of Glisa the traitor for some reason. I just think it is soo cool with artifact focused elves.
@surreal382
@surreal382 Год назад
So when is Mons gonna get me on to talk about Gruul again? Love the content, mate. We gotta jam at some point. 💚❤️
@nikolastojanov8749
@nikolastojanov8749 Год назад
did you put the goblin recruiter pile wincon in this deck cuz its really good or did you just want to show us / popularize/ test another mono red wincon?
@simontorell1549
@simontorell1549 Год назад
I'm thinking that KCI-combos would work great with this commander. Synergistic with the underworld breach-package, as well as with the deck in general
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I think so too actually. I am personally not fan of it. But I could see it be a great combo. Might be better then Snoop actually.
@akaqueequeg
@akaqueequeg Год назад
The main problem I found with the recruiter combo was that being that is has a pile of 4 cards (including recruiter) it is easy to exile a key part when digging with exile ability. Hitting Kiki-Kiki and not being able to cast it sucks, an most of the time you can't because of the RRR. Also the grinding station/breach combo can't win through Rod/ouphe. The other issue with the recruiter line is you really want red mana not lots of G. It would be better if you had a mono green combo pack consisting of creatures, maybe two cards. This gives you less chance of accidental exile which in my limited testing happened way to often. At least if the Combo parts are green you have more chance you can cast them from exile with your artifacts.
@ethanstates884
@ethanstates884 Год назад
Is Birgi/harenfel a consideration for the deck? On the one hand, you could be adding the red mana with birgi just for casting the rocks, possibly adding a way to filter to the Kiki jiki combo. On the flip side, if your commander gets too targeted, then you can use the harenfel side to dig through the deck for answers and fill your graveyard for breach.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Honestly I like it. This was just a standard Gruul sheel. Really similar to what all other gruul decks have been doing so fare. But I have a feeling we might move more towards mass artifact storm.
@ethanstates884
@ethanstates884 Год назад
@@cedhtv I think that’s where this deck goes from a cedh perspective. Making it an optional birgi secondary option and having a cloud stone curio combo or a storm combo. I’m not sure. It just seems like a good variable oprion
@LinksCow1
@LinksCow1 Год назад
Is there any reason to play LED in this deck? Or just not necessary?
@shinigami_0127
@shinigami_0127 3 месяца назад
Consider playing memory jar? Seems like an amazing fit in to counter Orical
@notabotm9923
@notabotm9923 Год назад
What about Paradise Mantle? 0 drop mana rock equipment, which turns Meria into a mana dork as well. So kind of a 2 mana rocks for 0, in a way.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I like it!
@francesthebard2758
@francesthebard2758 Год назад
Have you considered Cloudstone Curio/Dockside lines? You have so many 1cmc creatures to bounce back with Dockside that it seems trivial. Create infinite treasures, exile and play your deck. It could replace the Snoop line and free up space for other things.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
It is hard to tutor for cloustone in gruul. It is more or less a 2 card combo. While snoop is a 1 card combo. I personally think it is better to run 1 card combos in decks like this because we need to have consistensy. Also it is a creature and it is easy to tutor for creatues with green.
@daeosmusic1246
@daeosmusic1246 Год назад
Working on a storm variant of this commander.
@benjaminking3677
@benjaminking3677 Год назад
I think you could go for a more focused breach strategy if you wanted to. You don’t have many tutors that can grab breach but Meria is also a card draw engine. So you can flip through your deck pretty quick.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
You actually said it there. We don't have that many tutors. Basically gamble. Snoop can be really consistent. We have a lot of tutors in green for creatures.
@thetangelo1375
@thetangelo1375 Год назад
The gruul stax deck Ruric Thar always wanted to be
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Yes!
@pierrebuthaud7640
@pierrebuthaud7640 Год назад
This is the most "Non-Gruul" Gruul deck I've seen in my life... interesting
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
That is actually true.
@nierlluc4705
@nierlluc4705 Год назад
Is there any merit in building Meria over Jetmir? I wanted to build a Jetmir stax but I also got the good old Winter Orb and the likes that makes me want to build Meria instead.
@PyramidHeadLovesYou
@PyramidHeadLovesYou Год назад
My question for combos that have a lot of pieces like the Snoop piles; what do you do when you have one or two of your combo pieces in hand?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Cry. But yes. That is a problem. sometimes that just happens. It has been a problem for ever in cEDH with combo packages.
@pyroteknic420
@pyroteknic420 Год назад
@@cedhtv Scroll rack?
@dirtpickingusa8786
@dirtpickingusa8786 Год назад
Are you going to do a deck tech on Stenn, Paranoid Partisan?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I am going to do some mroe deck techs from dominaria united but no not on him sorry.
@Hashbrown1682
@Hashbrown1682 Год назад
With Meria there's a funny lock with void mirror and possibility storm With meria you can impulse the top card and play it so you're unaffected by void mirror Your opponents, not so much
@mckfencer
@mckfencer Год назад
I'm not sure what to cut, but if drannith magistrate is that much of a problem, it would be good to see another answer to it in the list, maybe lightning bolt? Umezawas jitte also could answer drannith/opposing dorks and taps for a green with commander.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
We have the answer. VALAKUT!!! Jokes aside yes lightning bolt could be great here.
@mckfencer
@mckfencer Год назад
@@cedhtv I think maybe delayed blast fireball could also fit in the deck? Decent at 3 mana, and gas if you hit it off meria without paying the foretell cost
@kampuput619
@kampuput619 Год назад
Mons, do you think Raggadragga is actually just a better stax gruul commander compared to Meria? A lot of artifacts in Meria feels like dead in the water once she got interacted with.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I don't think Raggadragga is good at all tho. Like your wincon is really slow compared to Meria.
@safeguard379
@safeguard379 Год назад
Which is better stax deck, Derevi or Meria? Thank you.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
After playing both I would say Derevi. In my opinion Meria struggels without the white. The white hatebers are soo good.
@EpicHeroSandwich
@EpicHeroSandwich Год назад
I was searching and came to the same conclusion the other day. If you're gonna take this to cEDH you NEED to play Collector Ouphe and Null Rod. People are gonna get TONS of dockside value against this deck and those two are the only things that are gonna keep your opponents from actually using all those treasures. Also, Drannith Magistrate is what Lightning Bolt is for.
@jameslong5102
@jameslong5102 Год назад
how does tapping artifacts with static ability stop them from going off?
@simontorell1549
@simontorell1549 Год назад
Because they say so on them. They are static abilites as long as they are untapped
@Coulrophobia29
@Coulrophobia29 Год назад
Im a believer that dorks in this deck are "bad". If your commander is out, any dork drawn is just a worse 0 or 1 cmc artifact. Yeah you get screwed if drannith comes down, but rather than dorks I'd rather just run removal. What roll do dorks play in this deck in the end. We dont really need to ramp fast for anything, and replacing some of the dorks with other artifacts helps us draw more in the end. Just my 2 cents, but when I build this deck this is the route I'll be taking so I'll be able to test it out.
@williamcortespoppedecarval951
Why no yavimaya for color fixing on the mana base?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I dont like to color fix for my opponents. Also we do have a ton of green once we have commander in play,
@mr.vernmeister7578
@mr.vernmeister7578 Год назад
You really need to test possibility storm void mirror combo
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I could see that go into the deck.
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 Год назад
More land destruction *And Klothys!*
@flameberga
@flameberga Год назад
Urza deck usually runs eye of vecna instead of howling mine, any reason to run mine instead? How bout dualcaster twinflame combo, seems compact enough.
@flameberga
@flameberga Год назад
Also, thoughts on welder/engineer?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I personally like 1 card combos. In decks that cant tutor that much 2 card combo can be tricky. So we can get to snoop quite consistent. But Dual caster and twinflame gets tricky.
@iurirosa3155
@iurirosa3155 Год назад
We are producing so much green mana with the artifacts, why not go for Tooth and Nail entwined and win with something like: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts / Great Oak Guardian / Hyrax Tower Scout
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
You know what! I actually like that idea. We do have the green mana for it.
@iurirosa3155
@iurirosa3155 Год назад
@@cedhtv the only (big) downside is the big slap from Ad Nauseam
@FrancisSalois
@FrancisSalois Год назад
Have you consider curse mirror in the 99 ?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
I think I actually might add that honestly.
@DemonOfMyMind
@DemonOfMyMind Год назад
So Kiki Combos... Why would you use Zealous conscripts when you have cheaper options? The way Combat Celebrant is worded it says it untaps all tapped creatures you control when you exert it. It doesn't specify the creature needs to be attacking. What about using Hyrax Tower Scout? It untaps a creature when it enters, you're in green so you have that option. And is the "Gain control of target permanent" better than Coercive Recruiter's ability "Whenever Coercive Recruiter or another Pirate enters the battlefield under your control, gain control of target creature until end of turn."? I mean, it seems to me I'd Pick Coercive Recruiter over Zealous Conscripts any day. Because then if I'm running Dockside I can infinitely copy Dockside so in case there is something that prevents me from attacking I can still combo off with infinite mana and casts from the top of my library. Its a corner case to be sure, but its just that little bit better imo. I mean, Imperial Recruiter can't get any of them since all of them have 3 or more power. But also Green isn't lacking in creature tutors. If I want to be mana efficient, Combat Celebrant or Hyrax Tower Scout seem to be the way to go, but if I want inevitability Coercive Recruiter seems to be a better choice. Sorry if this is a bit rambly, I Just think Zealous conscripts is a bit outclassed here.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Zealous conscripts is actually a good card in cEDH. you can steal cards from opponents and sometimes that dose a lot. Also 5 mana for it is not a big problem. This deck has a lot of mana.
@DemonOfMyMind
@DemonOfMyMind Год назад
@@cedhtv Thanks for explaining.
@blim8777
@blim8777 Год назад
Jeweled Amulet looks terrible, aren't there any other better zero mana artifacts? Like Paradise Mantle?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
You can play that. Both are kinda the same.
@Kakuz98
@Kakuz98 Год назад
I only have a doubt relative to the snoop combo: if you have infinite copies of conspicuous snoop thanks to Kiki jiki, how con you deal 1 damage for each goblin sacrificed? Mogg fanatic says “sacrifice mogg fanatic: Mogg fanatic deals 1 damage to target creature or player”, but conspicuous snoop don’t says that it becomes the card on top of your library, it says it “has all activated abilities of that card”, so you could win only if you have infinite Mogg fanatic, but you don’t! I’ll be happy to be denied because I’m super horny about this commander and would love to build it
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
You will give all snoop the mogg fanatic activated ability when you use the last snoop copy to target goblin recruter to shuffle the deck and place any number of goblins on top. This time you place mogg fanatic on top and now all snoop goblins have the ability.
@comvnche
@comvnche Год назад
201.4b. If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 Год назад
More land destruction
@Winterhe4rt
@Winterhe4rt Год назад
What is Splinter Twin doing here?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
It was a error. I was going to add the red creature that combos with kiki jiki but just added wrong.
@Winterhe4rt
@Winterhe4rt Год назад
@@cedhtv Aight, I was so confused haha. List looking great btw!
@Kozi15
@Kozi15 Год назад
Paradox Engine could have been good for this deck. Sad.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
YES!!!!!
@cinnamonkittamon
@cinnamonkittamon Год назад
Wait so where's "new urza"?
@shinigami_0127
@shinigami_0127 3 месяца назад
What?
@cinnamonkittamon
@cinnamonkittamon 3 месяца назад
@@shinigami_0127 title says "new Urza"
@shinigami_0127
@shinigami_0127 3 месяца назад
@@cinnamonkittamon yeah it's talking about the commander.. Both Urza and this creature have similar effects that are executed differently.
@cinnamonkittamon
@cinnamonkittamon 3 месяца назад
@@shinigami_0127I also made that comment at least a year ago. I was just explaining my question since you asked, and didn't think to clarify that I had since figured it out
@DiploRadio
@DiploRadio Год назад
Disclaimer: assuming all 4 players allow proxies or assuming you have infinite money
@cedhtv
@cedhtv Год назад
Yeah it is expansive. But where I play we always allow proxies.
@DiploRadio
@DiploRadio Год назад
@@cedhtv i have no doubt about that but i think this disclaimer is worth saying somewhere in the video
@AndrewWoodford
@AndrewWoodford Год назад
@@DiploRadio It isn’t.
@simontorell1549
@simontorell1549 Год назад
It is cedh. That cedh decks are expensive/ proxied is universally understood by those who play
@bennycostello2472
@bennycostello2472 Год назад
she's such a strange card. ''what if we did urza but for green red?' like wtf
@UncleJamie
@UncleJamie Год назад
CON SPICK YOU US
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