Fantastic comprehensive instructions buddy but I just can’t get 0.17 line through a QM1 eye 3 times. 12’s and 10’s are fine, love the adjustable hair though 👍🏽
I strongly recommend using 8 figure loop knots, for both knots. reason 1: loops are linearly aligned with the rig line due to 8 figure. Using simple knots you will always get loops at an angle, reason 2: stronger knot (~15% stronger).
I'm not a match type angler etc... but found this how to video very interesting. I'll be trying this method when tying my barbel and chub rigs and hair rigs in general....thanks for sharing it 👍👍👍
Nice one Rob. I use this when abroad fishing for very large carp. The hookholds are superb. Superb show of the actual tying of the whipping high up the shank for knotless knot
Thanks Rob, very helpful but to add to it having been a fly fisherman and fly tier for 45 yrs if you were to put the hook in a fly tying vice it would free up a hand and be easier. Having only come into carp comp style fishing 6 months ago I’m surprised no one uses a vice
Rob I used these rigs last night and although you said you didn’t invent it I’m giving the credit of a 15lb common to you. I haven’t fished for a few years and was a bit sceptical about the the 2” length but it took the best bottom lip hold inside the mouth I’ve ever seen. Caught it on my little 8ft TF Gear tip rod and my beloved Shimano 2500 with 6lb line and a 12 hook 👍🏽👏🏼
Great vid Rob thanks for taking the time to show us. How do you store these very short hook lengths or do you have to tie them up lakeside?? None of my hook length boxes seem to go below 4".
Never fished the method before, but as I’m now relegated to a motorcycle, I have to cut down on gear dramatically, so method fishing for big carp makes a lot of sense at the moment. Plus it’s something new so I’m exited about it lol. This has given me a lot of confidence, especially after clocking the 70 grand cheque behind you lol. Ps any suggestions for wafters this time of year (spring)?
Try tying an actual D-rig. For baits with buoyancy it can be better to let the bait act nearer to the eye rather than the bend. Set ups like the D-rig and KD rig do this really well. For a d-rig you would use a suitable line diameter that would allow you to "blob" the return of the D with a lighter flame, so it could be a different piece of line to the hooklength itself. For the KD you would have a braid hair with a true pop-up bait and a shot on the hair. As a carp angler for about 30 years, I want to say that the rigs used on today's method feeders are a long way from what they could be in terms of efficiency, but most of what we want to test in all forms of angling is actually very hard to test. What I would like to ask you Rob is have you tested wafters against normal buoyancy boilies? I have a feeling that wafters get easily dropped off the feeder, especially if they are not taken on the first visit.
I have true is different weight baits and to be honest I think whatever bait you use it will easily fall off the feeder unless there’s very few fishing moving in the swim.... I’ve done some really interesting underwater filming that shows this. You are probably right about the match anglers rigs not being as effective as speci style rigs. I feel it’s hard to get match rigs to work as well though with smaller components unless you have an idea
@@RobWootton I have seen your Edge films and the preston underwater feeder ones too. You are probably right that the hookbait gets wafted off the feeder if the fish don't get nailed first or second go. But, most "match" situations will mean rebaiting within say 15 mins anyway. For big carp that doesn't work, the rigs have to reset the trap. I'm convinced that some carp rigs actually work better once a fish has got away and the next one gets caught. I have lots of ideas Rob, just none I could advocate without testing.
HI Rob great video as always couple of questions firstly you advocate very short hook lengths for the method do you think that there Is any disadvantage when you fish an inline rather than elasticated,I am losing quite a few fish on the inline using short hook lengths as most waters I fish insist on inline.On a similar theme you often advocate the helicopter rig as your favoured set up for bream fishing again I cannot use this as majority of fisheries insist on free running rigs.Keep up the good work on the edge think you and Lee are a great team doing some excelent content best around by far.
I try to use a soft rod and as light a feeder as possible for inline work Steve. I love a sliding rig and would rather use one for smaller fish or at short range, it just becomes an issue for long range work in windy conditions as it can tangle sometimes
Hi Rob, i've been using this for a few years now, but my main issue with this, in my eyes, is when using hooks with small eyes. ie 0.011 + baitband on a size 18 hook. The eyes are so small you can't get the line through 3 times . For big feeder tho, perfect.
Easy one, Erwin. Start as Rob did, but don't pass the short tag end through the eye. Just hold it beside the hook. Then start your knotless knot. After two or three turns bring your bayonet in position and fold the short tag end back to the hook bent. Finish your knotless knot by overwrapping the short tag as well.
The only thing I do not like about this rig is, that little bayonet or pin does not secure the bait very well. It is a bit like putting a wafter straight onto a barbless hook, the fish can nick the bait without you knowing.
