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Method Feeder V PVA Bags - Which is BEST? 

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Method Feeder V PVA Bags - Which is BEST?
For this latest carp fishing episode we head to Suffolk Waterpark, a lake which has been very kind to us through the years, but one we haven't visited for far too long. The aim of the session was to compare two very popular carp fishing tactics, to see what performed best (PVA Bag fishing and method feeder fishing) AND of course, have an enjoyable day and hopefully catch a few fish along the way.
To find out a exactly how we got on and what method came out on top, then watch the latest episode from the waters edge…
As usual we hope you enjoy it and any feedback is always much appreciated.
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@frankshepherd645
@frankshepherd645 Год назад
Good idea for a test but it was testing a presentation for two different techniques. The method feeder is designed to be used with the method technique where the fish are fed each cast on the same spot when the feeder enters the water. The way the method feeder is designed to work is to cast to the spot and wait no longer than a few minutes then retrieve, reload and recast. Leaving the method feeder out more than a few minutes when you know there are fish about, as in the situation you were testing, meant that the feed was washed off the feeder and the bait so was less likely to result in a bite and should have been retrieved and recast. You had already laid out bait to attract the fish with the spod so either presentation would work on the area maybe one more than the other on the day, but in a match you would catch more on the method feeder because it would be faster. Just to add a further point to address the point made that the method feeder may not have hit the bottom with the bait and feed presented properly as applies to any cast with any method it’s important to soften the impact on the waters surface by slowing its approach just as it gets over the spot. If the method feeder is loaded properly and the bait is buried deep under the feed it will be presented properly and will result in a bite. To check reel back in directly to feeder has hit bottom and you should still have some feed in the feeder. A PVA bag would overcome this problem but would be slower in a match unless you had a sufficient preprepared bags available. If it’s purely presentation that you are considering I would say that the PVA bag is better purely because the choices of bait and feed are far greater.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Well what you say is fairly true, although in winter the method can still be used and left 30,40 minutes and out of the blue the tip will pull round. We did cast to the same spot each time and fairly regular, but I do completely understand what you're saying.
@frankshepherd645
@frankshepherd645 Год назад
@@FromTheWatersEdgeTV I fully understand the aim of the test you carried out and was not aiming to criticise the test but to help explain the results. The only thing I would suggest changing would be to recast both after each bite so that the attraction of each presentation would be tested not the method.
@beachcaster56
@beachcaster56 7 месяцев назад
Why not use both?? I sometimes add a bag of small boilies to my exposed feeder hook on a short hook length.. Pellets on the feeder...10mm boilies in a mesh bag. Caught me quite a few decent carp. Ok for short/medium casts. Best of both worlds :)
@whatshisface4343
@whatshisface4343 8 месяцев назад
Also you used different baits! Love your whole setup from the rods to the filming, nice one
@Cerashor
@Cerashor Год назад
Bro this was the best explication so far and made my decisions easier for my next cast. I am going pva rig next time. Thank you
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Thanks for watching mate, glad you enjoyed it. 😊
@timwise4198
@timwise4198 10 месяцев назад
Great insight into bags over feeder to be honest when you started the clip i thought the feeder would win out but I tried the same experiment with PVA mesh v feeder I found F1s took the feeder with the odd common or mirror over the mesh I'm just converting to bags and looking forward to seeing if I get more joy over mesh or feeder
@johnbloor4376
@johnbloor4376 Год назад
Being a match only angler you’ve certainly given me food for thought. Thanks for sharing! 👍😃
@tomwinterfishing9065
@tomwinterfishing9065 Год назад
A little trick I've used (when I'm not 100% I'm fishing on a clean bottom) is to use a method feeder, but pop it in a bag. This could be adapted to a match situation, as it's far quicker than making bags, but ensures everything stays together and unfouled....
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
No worries at all mate, thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. 😊🎣
@simonkjaeldgaard-greising
@simonkjaeldgaard-greising Год назад
Interesting. However, There are some things to consider here I believe. One is the speed and simplicity of using a methodfeeder compared to PVAbags. Re-casting takes literally seconds. If you fail a cast with a bag it is a lot more punishing. The Methodfeeder is usually meant to be re-cast quite often. PVA bag fishing for me is cast and forget when your'e fishing for a bite where it's hard to present a normal rig. Another downside with PVA is shown in the video. Rain. Fishing PVA bags in rain obviously render them useless. Rain is not always predictable as we can see. I think PVA bags all things considered has the ability to make a better presentation on the bottom than feeders but feeders has a lot of other things going for them.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
100% our thoughts on all the points you raised mate! Speed and simplicity and use in the rain are obviously two major advantages, especially if match fishing. 😊
@newsmonger77
@newsmonger77 10 месяцев назад
Using PVA bags is slower and more expensive which is an important issue for me. Also the bags use up more bait material.
@daveclark2643
@daveclark2643 Год назад
I used to fish method feeder all the time but was never 100% sure that it had not come off on entry into the water or before it reached the lake bed! That's were i think the pva bags have a huge advantage i am now happy (in my mind anyway) that the hook bait will be sat in pile of pellets/bait on the bottom!
@fishingsammystyle8682
@fishingsammystyle8682 Год назад
Pv1 binder 😉
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Interesting mate, it's so nice to hear everyones thoughts!
@swiatu25
@swiatu25 Год назад
I had that issue aswell. What I found is that if you prepare the pellets correctly and use good quality pellets, the you can smush it right down and the pellets will still be intact when it reaches to the bottom. I also use hybrid feeders so it prevents the pellets from breaking upon impact. Overall had good results.
@henkspaan526
@henkspaan526 9 месяцев назад
Using a hybrid feeder will bring your pellets on the deck on deeper venues. A rail feeder is more developed for shallower water. Also making and keeping your pellets spot on during the day is also key. Both have their pros and cons
@bobnudd6879
@bobnudd6879 Год назад
I watched something not long ago with Rob Hughes I think it was and when the method feeder hits the water 9 times out of 10 it explodes on impact, resulting in spread everywhere. That's why I think pva bag gets to the bottom an presents the best.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
I think thats what Steve had watched too Bob! All interesting stuff, nice to read everyones comments. 😊
@cheza7061
@cheza7061 Год назад
As always a pleasure to watch. 😎🎣🐟
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Thanks for watching as always mate and glad you enjoyed it. 😊🎣
@gregmercer276
@gregmercer276 Год назад
I think the method will be quicker for a few reasons there is going to be the waiting time for bag to disolve a bag can hold more bait so less chance of taking hook bait Bigger food foot print when bag explodes And method pellets softened and carp prefer softer baits in my experience...
@southgateclean
@southgateclean Год назад
Maybe on the method bait comes off and disburses as it sinks. Another great video.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Possibly mate, so many theories and nice to read everyones point of view. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. 😊🎣
@gregmercer276
@gregmercer276 Год назад
i get the pva but i would only use pva in deep water my locals are around 5ft deepest points... i used pva bags for several years had and had 2 unused feeders until rain stopped me being able to... and for the liquid if you mix dround bait/pellets add flavour to that water or i have seen haze added to feeder before cast
@leejordan7252
@leejordan7252 Год назад
Great video. Does a hard pellet give off more attractions to a pre soaked pellet?
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
I don't know mate... If I had to guess I'd say the other was round. Soaked pellet, is softer, fluffier and must be easier to digest?
@julianthomas6899
@julianthomas6899 Год назад
great video as usual! No way am I an expert carp angler, but I always try different techniques, say PVA bag, dynamite stick, method feeder, maybe switching all rods to one method if it is clearly the most effective, but I found day to day the best method varied somewhat unpredictably so there was no clear overall winner
@lewishunt6133
@lewishunt6133 Год назад
Well said 👏
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Thanks for watching mate and glad you enjoyed it. 😊🎣
@jamesatkinsfishing
@jamesatkinsfishing Год назад
Yes I enjoyed it, must give the bag a go i fish there from time to time on a cage feeder and it's made me think again, would love to no when you were going to be there i would of gone out of my way to come meet you two, coz your getting a bit good at making video's, very good shots and filming, Brilliant, would love to get some filming tip's of you, coz your like me when you make video's you have to keep moving around a bit, Thank you two,👍👍❤
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Ahhh thanks as always James! We might be back before the years out, so will be sure to give you a shout!
@weeeeee374
@weeeeee374 Год назад
Try the new leads by OMC, they are designed for groundbait. Just set up a normal lead clip system and try those maybe?
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
I've not seem them mate, will give them a look!
@slothandturtle8036
@slothandturtle8036 5 месяцев назад
Hey mate, can you please tell me what rods you are using there ?
@jacquelinehulme9761
@jacquelinehulme9761 7 месяцев назад
Excellent video BUT how are your rod rests standing up without falling over?
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching mate and glad you enjoyed it. We used something called ‘stage stands’ you screw then into the staging and then your bank sticks lock into them. 😊
@lewishenderson8460
@lewishenderson8460 Год назад
Would sticky method pellets work better at holding onto the feeder than standard soaked ones
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Possibly mate, altho soaked pellets do usually stick well!
@ryanbowen5764
@ryanbowen5764 Год назад
Solid bag!
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Ooooo good shout! 😁
@blackgoby1
@blackgoby1 Год назад
I wonder if the fish are more likely to spook off a method feeder (especially if they have been caught on one numerous times) whereas a lead is less conspicuous and more like a pebble or something more natural (and they are less likely to touch it while feeding on the pellets)?
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
All interesting questions John! It's always nice reading peoples views, as there is no real right or wrong answer! Everyone will have their favourite etc 😊🎣
@ph1zy696
@ph1zy696 9 месяцев назад
do you use shock leader with method feeder
@paulellam6926
@paulellam6926 Год назад
So I fish two rods, one what I call my sleeper rod, and that might be a pva mesh/bag setup or along those lines, my other rod is a method rig using small pellets and fake pop up corn, I rod about with the method, to try and find the fish sort of keeps me active so to speak. Generally I catch more on the method, some decent carp too, but I can also use this setup as a recce for the pva bag setup and then put that into the right place, so the method rig is my sort of fish finder if that makes sense. It makes my day a bit more interesting too, and seems like I,m more active than the folk with 3 rods out who are getting zero bites, yes they may be after monsters but I catch many fish and some decent ones too.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV 10 месяцев назад
That sounds absolutely perfect mate, it's nice to be busy and to work away at a method too. 😊
@ettienneesterhuizen1291
@ettienneesterhuizen1291 4 дня назад
When my hook and lead is wet , my bags break before I finished to prepare a bag ....but I am new into fishing , mabe its just me.
@garethholdcroft4130
@garethholdcroft4130 Год назад
I personally think the bag is a better way to fish because you can get so much more attraction in a bag than a feeder, for example liquids; I always put as much liquid as I can into my bags.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Both have pros and cons, but I definitely agree with what you're saying!
@thomassquirrell7567
@thomassquirrell7567 Год назад
Gotta love fishing a solid at swp mega runs water
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Indeed mate!
@francescosottocorno5697
@francescosottocorno5697 2 месяца назад
Che canna usi in questo spot
@joes_outdoors7659
@joes_outdoors7659 Год назад
What is the braid u are using please?
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Hooklink braid? If so I'll find out from Steve for you. 😊
@fishingsammystyle8682
@fishingsammystyle8682 Год назад
I only ever carp fish with a method feeder. I've had my pb of over 50lb on it, had multiple 300lb hits of big carp on it, plenty of times they've taken the bait within seconds of it landing an had a 30lber on the drop. You're recasting more often, therefore you're more likely to recast. It's hard work when on the fish as it's so effective. I do live in France though.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Nice mate, thats some fishing! 🤩
@ald247
@ald247 8 месяцев назад
Method feeder 👍
@tomwinterfishing9065
@tomwinterfishing9065 Год назад
I reckon the method mix was just getting wafted away by the fish, whereas the heavier pellets stayed a little more static. Or, it may just be that the pellets were more attractive and/or available for the fish...
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Possibly mate, so many theories and nice to read everyones point of view... More food for thought. 🤔 Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. 😊🎣
@dylanheath9315
@dylanheath9315 Год назад
What’s the leader material
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
I'll find out from Steve for you. 😊
@nickcotton28
@nickcotton28 10 месяцев назад
cant see how this is a fair test when, the method feed is used in the same way as a bag, this isnt the case for most fishermen. Method is ment to be cast out a lot more not left there like the bag. That said my lad and i did fish today and he got 7 on bags and i got 5 on method but i had the bigger fish which i though the bag would have.
@delwigzieful
@delwigzieful Год назад
It all comes down to how confident you are whatever method you fish i laugh with all these carp guys barrows full of stuff it's laughable especially when i turn up just carrying a fly rod a landing net and a small bag containing small terminal tackle items .Then catching carp after carp with ease on nothing more than chum mixers and a fly which is tied using deer hair imitates a chum mixer perfectly.I can't tell you how many times i crack these carp guys up they simply cant handle it but i love it it's absolutely hilarious cracking these guys up .
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
It does indeed mate! Do what you enjoy and what you're confident in. 😊🎣
@Paulforsilvers
@Paulforsilvers Год назад
Mesh bag at distance, method, close in 🎉
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
😊🎣
@foggy460
@foggy460 Год назад
Try using pva bags in the rain.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Very true! 😂
@waynegarrett1614
@waynegarrett1614 10 месяцев назад
method
@thomaswatts2230
@thomaswatts2230 Год назад
It was 7 5
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Was it?
@Gareth04100
@Gareth04100 Год назад
Hitting the clip hard on a heavy carp rod and line is going to strip the bait off a match method..no doubt. Maybe use one of the classic large 360 ball method feeders would be a better test.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
That would be interesting mate, taking it back old skool! One of the old coconut balls. 😂
@whatshisface4343
@whatshisface4343 8 месяцев назад
Depends what type of fishing you are doing, method feeder in my opinion shouldnt be used like this, its for busy fishing where youu would be revasting every 5 minutes or so
@dimitarlapchev2902
@dimitarlapchev2902 Год назад
I’m putting my money on Method feeder.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Nice one! 😉
@paularnold818
@paularnold818 11 месяцев назад
Method
@user-yc7ww6jj4w
@user-yc7ww6jj4w 6 месяцев назад
Unfair test... 10-15 spods is what caught them fish... Do the same test again without baiting an area and you'll have your correct results
@newgrani3957
@newgrani3957 11 месяцев назад
pva seems more accurate feeding to me
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV 10 месяцев назад
Thats true mate!
@danielbinder812
@danielbinder812 10 месяцев назад
Your loading the method feeder up wrong, the hook bait goes in last so it sits in the bottom of the feeder, your hook bait will be falling away from the method, no wonder the pva is catching more!!
@mikepruis7819
@mikepruis7819 Год назад
Pva will win. Holding more bait
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV 10 месяцев назад
Interesting!
@hugheski
@hugheski Год назад
Maybe the method may have been more productive if you were recasting it every 10 mins regardless of a bite or not.
@aarondavies8486
@aarondavies8486 Год назад
So right mate you can't fishing a method just casting every couple of houra
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Possibly mate, yeah. A few people have said that. Although in the colder months when match fishing we wouldn't think anything of leaving a cast 20-30 mins.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
We casted more than every couple of hours mate. But I know what you mean.
@KotoBish
@KotoBish Год назад
It is dangerous to draw conclusions from limited data
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
It's fun to think about the different scenarios and try to work out, or think about whats happend/happening though.
@KotoBish
@KotoBish Год назад
@@FromTheWatersEdgeTV agreed, but it's nothing more than pub banter based on this "experiment"
@Tiger4ever89
@Tiger4ever89 11 месяцев назад
Method Feeder = On season PVA Bag = Off-Season
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV 10 месяцев назад
Good thinking! Love the reaction, as everyone has there own theories... one thing that makes fishing so great!
@aarondavies8486
@aarondavies8486 Год назад
If you fished the method with exactly same pellet that the pva uses and casted the method more like your ment to fish with it
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Possibly... so many theories out there!
@chrisfalcon9804
@chrisfalcon9804 Год назад
PVA residue, no thanks.
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV
@FromTheWatersEdgeTV Год назад
Definitely food for thought! 😊🎣
@vlladellu
@vlladellu 2 месяца назад
Lake bed full of method feeders and lines. No thank you
@vlladellu
@vlladellu 2 месяца назад
Lake bed full of methods and broken lines. No thank you
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