MGS5 - Ep.18: [Blood Runs Deep] - No Traces / Perfect Stealth 

"alright men, the prisoners escaped, so now we have to- hey, what an interesting dog"

masterfully done, very impressive as usual, "they'll be telling stories about this one" "that right there is why you're the best boss"

This mission would be so much easier if you could just tell those kids to lie down...

It still bothers me to no end that D Dog can't wake up sleeping guards by barking near them.

Miller: "The chopper will be arriving any minute" Snake: "How about no"

Ah, the escort missions. No better way to show off the worst aspects of the game's AI. In this mission, the designers tried really hard to ensure that you would get detected at one point or another when escorting the child soldiers and would have to shoot your way to the LZ. It took me a lot of effort to prevent this action sequence from working as intended -- and the fact that the scripting in this mission is the worst one in the game didn't help much. To be clear, a lot of the stuff I did here was unnecessary, as far as No Traces bonus is concerned. You can just call in the chopper to some place other than what's been suggested by Kaz, carry the wounded child there, put him on the chopper and extract. Even without the 4 remaining soldiers on board it should still count as a successful completion. That's not my style, though. So, a few notes about my strategy for the extraction: 1) I used the wormhole device on the first child and all others. While it's possible to complete the mission the normal way -- by carrying the child to the chopper on foot and then putting everyone on it -- it's much riskier and would result in enemies noticing the chopper, which is something I wanted to avoid. It's quite doable with mist parasites, of course, but I didn't want to use them again. 2) The first group of guards can be ignored, and the second group requires a single distraction. I was infiltrating the area between 22:00 and 23:00, when two of the guards were asleep, which made things a little bit easier. 3) The real problem is the 3rd group guards (5:33). The children always try to run straight past them and inevitably get spotted in the process, so I had to do something about that. D-Dog must be placed at the right spot and told to bark at the right time, so that it would keep the guards long enough for the children to run past them unnoticed. 4) The 4th group guards also required using D-Dog (6:44). Once you reach that location the guards are scripted to discover the children's escape (regardless of how long it took you to get there), so you have to be fast and precise with that distraction. What's hilarious is that you can issue the bark command every 10-15 seconds, and guards will investigate the noises each and every time, even after they see D-Dog and shoo it away. You can effectively stunlock large crowds of enemies for unlimited amount of time with this, which is exactly what I did in the video. 5) I had to dismiss the chopper that Kaz called in for me twice (at 7:36 and 8:24). While enemies seeing the chopper is not considered a detection and chopper's kills do not count against you, I wanted to avoid any killing and do the mission as stealthily as possible. 6) The children can only be carried or extracted once they reach the LZ (8:50). The mission sure would've been a lot simpler if they did that right after exiting the prison... 7) The last two guards near the LZ can see you if you move while crouching or standing within a 35 meter distance (so carrying the children away from that spot wasn't an option for me), but they can't see you if you switch from crawling to crouching and don't move. The animation of activating Fulton device is not considered as "movement". 8) After the children are extracted you can leave the hot zone any way you like. No need to use the chopper.

almost disliked the video, but then he finally pet the dog.

Epic,i really hate this mission just because those kids are so slow and they move when the first group of soldiers you encounter changed position so that they would be spotted,fucking unbelievable.

Truly amazing ! But I did saw another video where fulton extracting and capturing last outpost (just before the mine/cave where the children are kept) should get you bonus " No alert about children prisoners escape"

EASY No Trace: >Tell the kids to stop right as they leave the jail cell, > kick them for being stupid and getting caught in several consecutive No Trace runs, > and THEN Wormhole Fulton them. >The rest of the run should be fairly easy with D-Dog to leave. So much easier than letting the game generate RNG collision of Guards vs Kids.

I never realized there was a scripted fight at the end because I killed, incapacitated, or extracted literally every guard in the camp and blew up the chopper before rescuing the kids.

That is complete bullshit that those guards just home in on you like that near the end.

Incredible work using D-Dog!

Excellent use of D-Dog.

At the end part I had Quiet and she yeeted every single one of the enemies before I could even find them

Damn you. Making me wanna play MGS V again

That bark, i didn't expect that 🙌

Its even more impressive that you never use a sneaking suit

Theres no chance of completing any level so easily like this on MGS V now. The detection from distance just wont allow it. The AI is a LOT better. But great tactics all the same.

VS: Bark. Guards: !! VS: Bark. Guards: !!!!! VS: Bark. Guards: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lovely.

Awesome video!:) such skill!

this mission is rage inducing. even if you decide to have a shootout, once you get to the helicopter like 10 more guys come through at the end and light you up. what the fuck man

So classy, much stealth!

I just did this mission and the helicopter killed one of the kids at the end, so I went back to the checkpoint. Next time it killed one of the nearby birds and I shot it down with my silenced AM MRS-4R and still got S rank.

Perfect stealth! Impressive!

if you tranq the Kids after the cutscene where you find them than you can extract all of them

Sweet vid - hate the mission

This mission... this fucking mission. Trying to do this new game for the first time blind. Tried to be a good octopus and knock people out using tranq pistol and tranq sniper rifle w/suppressor. The helmets reflect the shots taken at the soldiers jaw line for some reason, so I got spotted, then the guards and chopper kill the kids. I used up my suppressor trying to fight them off, and when I used checkpoint restart my suppressor didn't come back so I spent the next few tries with my lethal assault rifle trying to fight to the extraction chopper, only to have the chopper shot down several times because my r&d team is too low to get armor. Then realized my gmp doesn't reset at checkpoint either so I'm now broke.

Probably a little late to ask this since it's been over a year since you've played this but realistically is using the Central Africa music acquired tape to put the kids to sleep and then fulton extract them with the Wormhole a possible strategy for No Tracing this mission? - or does the cassette not work on child soldiers? Love your channel by the way. Eventhough I can No Trace a lot of these missions myself I still am amazed at how fast and smooth you are able to do a lot of these.

lmao - this heavily armed search party, and even the pilot of the helicopter, all drop everything to stand around and look at a dog barking.

Quick question about the detection mechanics in this game, do certain actions the player does have like "I frames" for lack of a better term? Like does the rolling sideways while prone, which I always get a kick out of btw, not get detected at all? I swear I've done it almost certain I'd get noticed but didn't.

Brilliant job using ddog

Were you distracting even the helicopter with DD? what the hell?! This level was the worst.

omg ! GG prenatual :-)

this mission actually took me all day (i am not good at stealth games)

I had no idea before this video you could use the Cardboard box to get picked up the Delivery Points. All this time I was wondering what those are use for. I am baffled. I am constantly finding out new things you could do in this game from watching videos like this.

Dope!

You are the best boss! the one and only

Now that's a good boy.

lol You're an expert with this game.

Tumbleweeding. The ULTIMATE stealth maneuver.

The hold up to the first target always results to a red one for me. I don't know the reason for it. Any help?

So snake could teleport them. The Diamond Dogs are the Institute.

Brilliant use of Bark command. The only thing I hate is the Wormhole Fulton. Got to be balloons and ceilings for me.

can u stun kids with stun arm in cave and extract them right away？ That would make it a lot quicker, but would it affect the No Trace bonus？

came back a year later just to say fuck this mission that's it

When do you unlock the black hole Fulton I need that bad

THE ENEMY SPOTTED THE TARGET

I wonder how swiftly you can complete mgs4

Tried this recently without extracting the crippled kid - basically impossible, and even if you are able to complete it, it'll be sloppy as all hell (white suspicion lines everywhere). Another mission needlessly ruined by forced action at the end.

Il love the phantom of pain

where was your start lz?

So that's why I was having so much trouble. I got the little bastards all the way to the extraction zone and kept getting caught; I had no idea it was scripted... I also hate how Piccot just ignores your dismiss order but I suppose that's scripted too.

Wow

It'll break No Traces, sure, but the aforementioned strategy is a MILLION times better: Sleep Grenade em' and wormhole extract them, quick and clean. :)

You can fulton extract all the kids if you have children fulton on

wow

Which do you think is better camouflage suit or sneaking suit...

Это Кодзима играет?)

@Prenatual, How do you deal with that annoying enemy gunship in this mission?

I still believe it should be Boss decision to leave kids in there and still get s-rank. Bullshit plot.

why couldn't you fulton all of them from the start?

Why didnt you fulton the children right away? Did you want to prove that you can take them to the extraction point unnoticed?

B A R K

how do you roll while crouchin again?

Dey won't hear u if ur too far away from dem. Kaz pls.

It's the worst... It took me more than 10 repeats to correct things when they go wrong.

Now this shows what BS that s No Traces. You can fulton a soldier or kid in front of others and cause a caution alert yet you can't directly do anything like use cqc even if you never put the enemy into a caution?

Escort mission should be a game design taboo.

Wait A Minute !! Did He Leave The Dog Behind ?!? 🤨

I SEE YOU FULTONED THE KIDS AT THE END, HOW COME YOU CANT DO IT AS SOON AS YOU ARE OUTSIDE THE CAGE OUTSIDE?

right off the bat you fulton the target then run right in front of the next guard....how does he not see you? your runs are awesome i just hope you dont have a glitch going on of some sort?

I got an undeserved S thanks to a bug, I think. I sniper shot the first dude, then made my way to the kids pretty quickly. I had to retry the bit where I'm taking the kids to the chopper so many times,because I kept getting killed by enemies or enemy chopper. At one point I manage to get to my chopper, but it soon takes fire and explodes!! And then the game froze.I had to restart it from my ps4. But I was able to continue the mission on the bit where I left it. Basically everybody was near the chopper and all I had to do was eliminate enemies and put the kids on the chopper. I still had a few retries for this bit though. It was a disaster but I just wished to finish it quickly. I thought I was gonna have an E or a D,lol.

Bark

bark

1:04 how wasn't he seen?

this is the reason why venom snake is better than BB.

This mission is probably worst in the game tbh

I hate this mission. Seeing how many hoops you had to jump through to avoid the gunfight the game so clearly wants you to have has made me lose even more respect for this mission. Scripted alert from children escaping, guards spawning out of nowhere right behind you, the game forcing a support helicopter on you twice and a gunship that's just hanging around for no apparent reason even before the alert. An escort mission with a group of children that suck at following your orders is bad enough without all those other things.

Two irrefutable facts. First, you are a god when it comes to stealth games. Second, You don’t know what ‘No Traces’ means.

funny how people complain so much about things being accomplished through scripting even though actually making it systemic would basically result in the exact same scenario as the scripted result. Nobody cares if AI is smart, they just care that it acts exactly as smart as they think it is. I want more stealth games where enemy reactions and scripting are super opaque yet going on the offensive is still the worst strategy, but also luck plays a huge factor in getting through it. And for the love of god, no rating system.

This mission.... it's just crap...