The fact that Huey went from "Skull face killed her and put her in the pod." To "Skull face killed her and I put her in the pod." To "Strangelove killed herself after shutting herself in the pod." In the span of under a minute is insane. Huey is good for nothing, not even lying.
You know, seeing now just how bad Huey was, it's actually insane how Otacon and Solid Snake ended up not only working together, but also ended up having one of the healthiest relationship in this entire franchise.
I just love how Ocelot gets progressively more and more pissed off as he pulls apart Huey's bullshit in these tapes. Most of the time Ocelot's the one that has to be the cooler head when Miller starts getting worked up, but by the end of the interrogation you can just tell that he's just as eager as Miller to blow Huey's head off. It really says something about how utterly despicable Huey is when someone as unscrupulous as Ocelot is disgusted by him.
+CegeRoles Off topic, but I sort of feel like this game is representative of Ocelot's true personality. All of the other games, he's essentially playing a role in order to keep his cover in tact. But I feel like when he's on Mother Base and with Kaz/Venom Snake, he is more or less showing who he really is and how he truly behaves once the facade is off. I notice that he's not nearly as brutal and is generally more understanding of others than he is in previous games.
+IcedEarth426 Ocelot is and always will be a great big silly weirdo. He's abnormally relaxed in this game, being a flat character with the only thing reminding us if him being his silly outfit. I'm not sure if it was meant to show us that Ocelot is actually a more laid back person, or that Kojima just had to give in to Konami budget pressure resulting in a stinted character.
+IcedEarth426 Kinda weird seeing Ocelot, of all people, be the heart of the group. In every other game, as you mentioned, he's a cold tactician who's doing his job but here, he's sparing Quite's life, raising a giant wolf/dog, and getting pissed off at Huey (which makes sense when you consider his father, the Sorrow, sort of died to save his life). That's quite some character development.
+KNIGHTMAREMANIAC Ocelot is and always has been on Big Boss's side. The character that we saw in MGS1 and 2 were an act, a means to an end. He was never really on Liquid's side, nor was he on Solidus's. I think this more reserved, thoughtful version of Ocelot is for the most part the "true" Ocelot. It would have to be for him to mastermind so much later on in the series.
You can't hear it if you're using speakers, probably, but the last tape ends with Strangelove's heartbeat getting slower and shallower until it stops and the tape cuts.
Love the part where Venom Snake says, "Lets bring someone else into this conversation..." Then Huey gets all defensive cause he knows he said to much that contradicts what he said.
Shit! Now I know why Otacon and Snake never talk about their fathers much. Because both their fathers were such cold bastards back then, but Otacon's was even worse.
Their families in general are pretty nuts. Strangelove was pretty manipulative (& her obsession with the Boss was pretty weird), Eva was-well, she was Eva, being a spy, carrying the clones. Both were sort of raised for someone else's ends, with Otacon being the one to carry on the Boss' will, Snake being raised a soldier from day one...Heck, everyone in Metal Gear has some pretty crazy history. I love how similar Snake & Otacon are, though, despite being so different. Their friendship is pretty sweet, considering the relationship between their fathers.
Dunno about "worse". BB was still hiding nukes, recruiting child soldiers and erasing his soldier's identity and life so he could turned into his double, did he not?
Huey. All of the psychopaths, terrorists, and malfunctioning A.I.s, and HUEY is the only one in this series that truly scares me. Why? Because I worry about becoming like him. I'm afraid of a lot of things, but one huge thing that I fear is becoming a sniveling coward willing to sell out my friends for my own skin, then play victim when faced with the truth. I worry about hurting people and then lying to myself, saying that I did the right thing, or that this is someone else's fault. It's ironic, really, since I frequently blame myself for things that don't concern me. I've lied about things in my life (who hasn't?), but several things that Huey does (i.e., shifting blame onto others, thinking I'm a victim of someone else, etc.) are things that I've also done. Huey Emmerich and Martin Walker are two video game characters who have made me realize what I can become. And that scares me to death.
I think we're *all* worry about hurting people, but, in the end, it's all down to choice. Even when it feels like we have very few options, that doesn't mean we have no choice at all. That's what I learned the hard way five years ago. And, since then, I've been true to myself and others even when the truth hurts. Whatever happens, it's down to us what we become.
I know what you mean. Heaven forbid I ever be put in a situation where I have to sell out people I care about to save my own skin. Still, if it somehow did come to that, I'd like to think I would at least not delude myself and try to make up for it somehow, rather than avoiding blame and running from my guilt like Huey did. If there's one thing I hope to never do as a person, it's to stop caring about others and how my actions can hurt them.
@@nanoman8 Otacon didn't infect people with mutated parasites with intention of having the parasites being spread around the world via birds and murder his wife in cold blood, so I don't really see how making REX with the intention using it as an ICMB defense system is tantamount to what Huey did.
I love how Ocelot basically says what the ai in MGS2 says to raiden: “We’re not smothering the world, it you.” “The real world doesn’t make you suffer, it’s the other way around.” Ocelot is such a good interrogator that he can tear into a humans psyche like a machine.
This is grade a voice acting. You know the Fox engine is notoriously difficult to work with even tho it can be used to make really good cinematics and gameplay, I honestly imagine these were meant to be cutscenes but there wasn't enough time to animate them all.
Emmerich-"I never seen his face." *Sobs* *later* Emmerich-"I said it didn't work!" "He wanted it." Only one question. How the fuck can someone cry over a fabricated lie?!?! That is honestly some disturbing stuff.
study psychopaths, they don't feel genuine emotions but can cry on the spot and lie pathologically. It's not a mental illness but a personality disorder.
He’s so fucked up that he believes in his own lies- or at least wants to believe in the next lie he cooks up so that he can feel comfortable with himself. That’s a trademark of a psychopath.
For the longest, I genuinely thought there might have been a chance Huey was speaking honestly, until he changed his Strangelove story like, four times in the span of three minutes
Timeline of the Metal Gear Game Franchise: 1964 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 1970 - Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops 1974 - Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker 1975 - Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes 1984 - Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 1995 - Metal Gear 1999 - Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake 2005 - Metal Gear Solid 2007 to 2009: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 2014 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2015 - Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
It's interesting just how many discrepancies and dissonance can be noticed in Huey's words on every re-listen of the tapes and his overall behavior. I mean it's interesting, for someone being "forced" to do research for the soviets, he seemed super proud of his accomplishments, so much so that the soldiers stationed in there can't help but talk about his boastings. That's on top of just how comfy and cozy his lab became, he was allowed a shiny new pair of legs, his wife was brought along and they even managed to have a kid and raise him in that lab, he even gets to continue his research unscathed after his wife hides his child away from him while he left her to die in the pod, for all his "lost" 9 years, he sure gained a lot... Many fans think it's out of character for Huey to become a villiain, but in reality all the red flags are there in Peace Walker, Coldman outs him as a scientific fraud, using research stolen from Granin, then when he joins MSF, he almost instantly proposes building an AI weapon for MSF, that's on top of him insisting to put a nuke on said weapon despite Snake's own reluctance to being trusted with one, anyone repentant for their own actions would have wanted an out as soon as the nuclear threat was done, but not Huey, he always had something to gain, always looking out for himself.
I never understood the point of Huey’s heel turn. It came completely out of nowhere, it had no build up, no reasoning behind it, and it kinda felt forced. I mean to this day I still don’t know why Huey was talking to Cipher before the original Mother Base was destroyed
If he was actually telling the truth about mistaking the "Inspection", he would've felt terrible for what he had done to his comrades and Mother Base. But not once did he do that--he always claims he thought the Inspection was real, as if it was an honest mistake with no casualties. Not to mention that whenever his machines are brought up, he gets all happy and silly like a schoolgirl--as if he has a clear conscience. It just goes to show you that Huey is a selfish liar that he'll do whatever it takes to get resources to build his WMDs. "There's no shortage of scientists out to get famous and patent their work--with morality taking a back seat." He just described himself unintentionally. "I risked my life trying to save you all!" HOW, HUEY!? HOW!? How's building WMDs out of Mother Base "risking your life"!?
I think he was too scared to accept responsibility. After all, HE took the initiative thinking that he was doing MSF a favor. What really irritated me about Huey is that he was trying to be all buddy-buddy with us once again, as if the events in Ground Zeroes never happened.
+rcroller1972 in any case, it at least makes it so anyone who says that anyone ever loved huey is wrong. Strangelove found her love for Joy to be so great that they could bear a child between life and death. Have you ever had super gay love with a ghost? Strangelove did.
@@ZackExplorer28 perhaps he wouldn't regret being responsible for his suicide no longer because of how pathetic and traitorous he really is. Not to mention he murdered Hal's own mother. Hal would probably hate him instead of feeling guilty for him.
He got them when the CIA declassified everything offscreen. It helps that Miller made sure that the tapes survived the destruction of the Mother Base. So in case anyone doesn't know yet, during the events of MGS4 entire world knows what more or less happened Somewhere between MGS2 and 4 the declassification process happened. One of the reasons it happened was to turn Big Boss into an icon Eva talked about.
One of the things I love knowing about these tapes is that Christopher Randolph would be stopped during several of his takes and his vocal director would say “Huey isn’t that good of a liar.” Randolph wasn’t even told clearly what was a lie and what was the truth and had to play everything as if it was at least a bit of a lie. Idk, something about Randolph’s acting here is just really interesting to listen to and think about the recording of it
Huey’s biggest betrayals: Laughing at Big Boss’ belief of Santa, Mother Base, mutating the quarantined men, saying DD is a wolf, now that’s crossing line no one one crosses. No one drives a wedge between a man and his best friend.
Personally, he should’ve just came out and accepted accountability and responsibility for it to begin with. Hell even Skull face found himself disgusted by Huey
Then again, Huey was so caught up in his own lies he started to believe them. It’s all well and good saying what you would’ve done, but you forget that the man had been living a lie from 9 years. You would believe yourself too if it were that long
What is interesting about Huey is that he sounds earnest at times. Perhaps because he lies to himself all the time and believe his own lies. A true hypocrite. A horrible sin, yet probably the most humane one which we all can relate to at some points in our lives. Most of us won't be Snake, Miller, or Ocelot, but any of us could slip and descend into Huey.
Say what you want this game’s voice acting was perfect, the vc for Huey somehow manages to capture a desperate, insane man who’s making up lies on the spot, Ocelot’s vc manages to capture a ruthless torturer who’s experienced with interrogation and is constantly picking apart Huey’s lies, Miller manages to capture a bitter, scarred man who has lost more than anyone else.
Much as I do want to say that Ocelot seemed kinda 'flat' compared to how he is before and after this, I also feel like this is a rare case of him not having to put on something of a front. He's being in a sense a 'strait man', even though when I recall how he's been, his calm nature isn't entirely unheard of. In Every other MG title he's been in, he's had moments of calmness, even under some extent of stress. I want to call it 'bad writing' but stab me in the back to say, I find it very very fascinating on the other hand. I find it very interesting to see a person whom typically is a hoot to watch with, be it his eagerness in a gunfight, or to torture people or really anything. Say what you want about the twin snakes, I got a good laugh over him both breaking the fourth wall ('...there are no continues my friend...Don't even think about using autofire, or I'll know!!") and his little accident with dropping his gun (or in both the original and Gamecube take on him loosing his hand), Ocelot is someone that in some vein I loved to hate given how he managed to get away with so much of what he did. It's odd and yet I'm ... I'm okay with how he was in 5. It's like he was there and trying to be the 'strait man' compared to everybody else. The one to be calm because lets face it, almost everybody else to an extent is even more off-their rocker for understandable reasons. Be it Venom snake for loosing his arm, shrapnel in his head and imbeded flesh inside him from another person. Or Kaz with a missing arm, foot, and potential eye damage. Then there's the MSF survivors whom are understandably not quite gotten past what happened in 1975, and so on. There has to be at least one 'sane' person even if Ocelot's own sanity is questionable as well. It's strange to see him so god-damn calm but I welcome it as well. It's like it's the ONE time we see him as... 'normal'. It's like in some twisted sense he's most 'comfortable' in this situation compared to everywhere else in which he's putting up to some extent a facade to some goal that's not clear right away, but in time it's revealed. I like it. That's my rambling opinion anyway.
I don’t mind it, but it would’ve made for a more entertaining watch if Kojima added a flair of unpredictability to him. I wish his lines were also delivered with more charisma as well, as he’s quite boring on screen. Ocelot is meant to be an entertaining character, but he just puts me to sleep in this game. Say what you will about MGS4, but in my opinion Liquid Ocelot was the best damn part about that game
It's like classroom or work social systems. If the clown or the comedian of the group transfers or is out of the game, someone else.. Hell even the quietest person in the room will step up
Because for the first time, he is actually working for the man he admired, Big Boss, or at least as far as he made believe to himself through hypnosis. Only In this game he is not a spy for anyone...
In all honesty, even if Chico didn’t reveal the location of Mother base, I mean, when you look at it from a certain point of view, Huey has just as much blame as Chico because he let them come and attack Mother base. I mean, he should’ve known better than accept a “preliminary” inspection when said inspection was a ruse for Skull and XOF to attack and destroy mother base. But he let them come anyways. So looking at it like, you can say that Huey was essentially responsible for what happened to mother base, especially seeing as how nine years later, he’s the one who is easier to blame since he didn’t lose anything out of compared to say, Miller, because Miller didn’t just lose mother base, he lost an arm and a leg too
I wanted to comment on Huey's supposed dramatic shift in personality. I saw it as more of a slow burn. Through out his life he had this idea that he could blame others for his unfortunate circumstances. His deformity of his spine which took his ability to walk was the result of his father's work on the atom bomb. His plagiarized work was justifiable in his mind because of the pressure he felt. Trying to use his own son as a test subject for a weapon. His obsession with Strangelove which eventually led to her murder by his hand. I'm sure he rationalized everything he did like all psychopaths do. I'm leaving out a lot but if you look at his life and the way he omits certain facts and tries to play the victim its clear he's unhinged. It was slowly building towards this.
You know, it's really sad to see Huey become a villain. I liked him a lot in Peace Walker. And I was the one who understood and supported Huey when he wanted the inspection to happen (But make no mistake, I hated the fact that he sent the letter without consulting with Kaz and Big Boss). He actually looked like a victim to me in Phantom Pain initially and I thought he was just a victim and hoped that Huey proves that he was a good guy. However, after knowing that he killed Strangelove and risked the life of Otacon, it disgusted me and wished someone kill Huey. Even when Venom spared Huey, he still had the balls to say that Snake should have been the one in that life raft. I am glad he died and made me like Otacon even more
4:50 "Hunched-over bipedal waddling?" Huey, do you NOT remember how ZEKE moved around when Snake fought it? In case you've forgotten, Paz had that thing jumping like it was on the moon!
+Isaac Chaudhry You're correct, and the other comments are true, but wrong in that they deny the other truth. Ocelot is the child of the boss and the sorrow by biology, but Otacon is also the son of the boss, the child of strangelove and the boss.
The AngelAJPwny Strangelove WAS close to The Boss, that so called egg that she mentioned before her death, if you look at guns of the patriots with sunny emmerich, That was the chekov's gun to REALLY carrying The Boss 's will. Ocelot was probably watching over Otacon the whole time to see if he would find a way to end the patriots that zero established, from the days of phantom pain, along with the testing of the sons of big boss. kojima predicted it even before this was made.
Huey lied about so many things, but he couldn't lie about how great he thought his invention was. Huey had this pitiful woe is me tone every time he tried to explain his way out of Kaz and Ocelot's questions, but when he talked about Sahelanthropus, there was a tone of pride, especially in the "history of mankind" and "bipedal" part of the tape. Huey only cared about his inventions and didn't really care whether the Metal Gear brought drastic consequences and his actions brought to his friends.
29:34 Huey had me chuckling on this one, I also was like, "Umm that's a wolf, but whatever" when he named him D Dog at the beginning of the game. The best part though was DD was in the chopper as well and barked during this part.
Actaully Solid Snake is the living embodiment of The Boss's will. It was Solid Snake that influenced and inspired Otacon to be who he was later on. Solid Snake and Otacon then becane two sides of the same coin
Because the left is usually delusional, embracing ideals like equality, control etc even though they have no base in reality, so when reality shatter their delusions they don't open their eyes. They lie, even to themselves, so they will not shatter their narrative, until they reach a meltdown or their heads. Proof? See Anti Trump supports behavior, lying, hitting and swearing at people that practice reality.
+Darkmasterxx ??? Why are you spewing this weird political jargon? Have you never heard the expression "out of left field"? Also I'm pretty sure Huey isn't a monster because he is a left wing liberal.
This is actually a very good question. I mean, in Peace Walker he did a wrong thing or two, but his heart was in the right place. Now, it just feels like he cares more about his ambition/reputation rather than the motive of not letting nukes get fired ever again.
Whoa dude you figured it out. Today Bernie Sanders said he was going to unleash ethnic cleaning parasites on Washington D.C. And lock his wife I robot. How'd you see that coming!
31:16 Really subtly fucked up connection. The static/disturbance sounds at the start of this tape? They're the same sound effects used in Viola's death message in Zone of the Enders, one of Kojima's other games.
7:59 As much as of a lying bastard Huey is (nor I am trying to make look like a good person or defend him, I mean just because someone's a terrible person doesn't mean they can't be right about something) for once he's actually telling the truth there he was genuinely baffled how skull face managed to get the Sahelanthropus to work without a human pilot or AI even he had no idea that a psychic named psycho mantis was controlling it.
he also told the truth that Sahelanthropus was just a paper tiger. it is indeed COMPLETELY useless without Psycho Mantis, once Venom Snake destroyed it in Kingdom of the Flies, it was scrapped for good before Metal Gear 1.
At first, I thought of Huey Emmerich as a father. Looking at Sons Of Liberty before I played The Phantom Pain story, I wondered why she was complaining of her father that almost drowned her. But now I understood. Huey is a murderous, lier, stealer of the lives in the Quarantine Facility, even bringing down the Venom Boss, who didn't realise he was talking to the Fake Venom Snake. If I was Big Boss, I would've shot him, but doing this would cause a time paradox, similar to Ocelot from MGS3: Snake Eater. Preventing the situation of almost drowning Emma is one of them. At least R&D can use Huey's work to their use.
Metal Gear Solid 4 elaborated on what MGS2 mentioned about the bastard in that he did attempt to kill her too. But instead drowned himself. A very pathetic, fitting demise for Huey if ya ask me.
I seriously have to ask why he made Sahelanthropus so powerful and not the bare minimum to meet skull face's standards. Or make it look strong but have a crippling weakness.
Why wouldn't he? He knew what he was doing, and he loved every second of it. He's like Walter White from Breaking Bad; he makes constant excuses, maybe even starts to believe it. But beneath it all, he does it all because he wants to.
Sahelanthropus isn't powerful tho; it doesn't work at all. It's an absurdly overambitious design that was never going to function properly with the tech limitations of the era. The only reason it ever moves at all is that a telekinetic kid plays with it like a puppet.
Honestly it probably was the bare minimum, the thing didn't work and could barely be called a Metal Gear. It had to be puppeted around by a psychic to be a threat. Even Huey didn't know how it was seemingly operational when he first saw it drop in, because it actually was impossible.
What the actual hell happened to Huey? Was he secretly this much of a bastard back when I rescued him in PW? What the hell happened in the many years between PW and... THIS disgrace?
ES21007 basically became the proverbial mad scientist. He used his kid for demoing sehelanthropus, and killed Strangelove for trying to protect their child. He had fun with all of the unlimited technology at his fingertips, and became drunk with power, until big boss snatched his ass out of there.
That was one of the reasons I wanted him out. 1. He harassed Big Boss and Miller into allowing the inspection 2. He sealed Strangelove in the Boss AI 3. Tried to change the subject of covering his ass to Big Boss 4. Helped the whiney little sh!t Eli repair Sahelanthropus 5. F**ker may have done or said something to Paz
Huey thinking that the inspection being real is probably the only true thing about this. He's the kind of guy desperate to justify his own actions to others, and lie about the bad ones to prop himself up. He probably did want to make MSF seem justified in the eyes of the world and tried to take the initiative for that when he thought everyone else was being unreasonable about something that would help them. Every single one of his actions are driven by self-preservation and cowardice. Rather than go the long way around of sticking with his comrades, he hoped to prove them wrong in an action that turned out fatal for everyone, and he forgets others lost things too. He did lose a lot, but his cowardly nature meant he lost a lot less.
+Tom3744 At the very least his mom had something of a moral ground (shown when she was torturing Big Boss) and genuinely loved him. But yeah she was pretty fucked up, just not to the extent of his father.
+Ricardo Quezada nowhere near the extent to his father. His mother may have some flaws in her right, but she genuinely loved him deeply and protected him from his appalling father, she hoped great things for Hal, and it helped influence the boss's wisdom. Hal truly possesses the boss's will, I'd say he does even more so than most if not "any" other character in the metal gear solid franchise
Is Otacon aware of The Boss' meme? I don't recall he is, and I thought it's amazing that he became the inheritor to The Boss' will completely on account of his own decisions, without anyone else's input or pressure.
These tapes are so uncomfortable they're awesome. I can totally see myself acting like Huey if I was in his position, caught guilty and trying to come up with excuses. Fantastic voice acting by all.
Strangelove is so fucking weird. It's no wonder they called her, "Strange love". She has like a fucking hard-on for the Boss, who was already into the Sorrow.
i like that huey is a pathological liar without even realising it. it just is his natural defensive mechaninism so he doesnt even realise hes doing it. its clear hes not a psychopath just a person with an incredibley flawed mindset.
I love that even tho they "reconed" Dr Clark into Paramedic, they still call Dr Clark a "He" @14:18 Its possible that since she is a patriot, she decided to lie about her genders as Dr Clark. Man I love MGS
Miller or Ocelot comments in one of the tapes that they don't know for certain if "Dr. Clark" is really even a "he" because there's no info or leads on that person to be found anywhere
that was already confirmed in the MGS4 Database, Paramedic was so secretive that no one even knew her Gender as Dr. Clark, so everyone just defaulted to "he". just like in MGS2, no one knew the gender of Olga's child so Solid Snake said "Don't Worry, I'll find HIM", then MGS4 revealed that Sunny was Olga's Daughter.
why did snake say he never heard of dr. Clark? in one of the first tapes ocelot lists off the patriots and includes paramedic aka dr. Clark? was he just playing dumb with emmerich?
+andrew gonzales I always saw it as him playing dumb. I say this because in the first tape between Ocelot and BB, Ocelot mentions her by name as being part of the Les Enfant Terribles project.
+andrew gonzales because he called dr. clark a he If I knew a woman with the surname clark and then heard of a man named clark I wouldn't relate them, much less if that she was a field medic and the man was a genetics specialist and even mgs1 says it's a he, we don't really know if it's the actual paramedic or not
I blame huey and Miller for the destruction of msf they both had motives with cipher , Miller knew about paz from the beginning and allowed her to fulfil her role , and huey well he is more guilty but both should be cast aside , no wonder the real bigboss got rid of Miller since Miller wasn't in the outer heaven rebellion and zanzibar uprising but by then Miller and bigboss wanted each other dead
I get it that Huey was responsible for lot of bad stuff that happened before and during the Phantom Pain but did he really know that the ''nuclear inspection team'' that he invited would actually be the XOF strike force with task to destroy the mother base? I mean that's the main reason why Huey was brought back in to new Mother Base in first place so Miller and Ocelot could interrogate him about. That was never really cleared to me ^^;
I get where you're coming from. I had the same doupts the first time (I guess using the same actor that played otacon had a hand in it). But having played GZ and TPP and listening to the tapes things became pretty clear to me that he's the traitor. First off, he wasn't the one working for XOF on the inside. We don't find out who but it is said that XOF had a team on the inside that planted C4 on the strut legs, and that's how the base went under. If you listen to the all the tapes you can find a bunch of inconsistencies in hueys answers during his interrogations, like for example: He says that he worked on the A.I alone and that he retrieved the Mammal Pod from the lake in Nicaragua. But Kaz tells us that after contacting Amanda, he discovered that strangelove is the one who did it. And than there are so many coincidences and decisions that huey makes. He agrees to the inspections behind everyone's back, he has all the soldiers unarmed during the inspection, strangelove leaves the ave of the attack and he asks that the bulk of the soldiers and armored vehichles leave the base. Yeah, to me he's a traitor
I get the sense that Huey knew something was up, but assumed it would simply be the theft of Zeke (which honestly would be sort of poetic because while Big Boss could say he’s letting the nuke get into the hands of a potentially dangerous random group the same exact logic applies to MSF/DD having nukes). Or there’s the other, very real, possibility that Huey fully believed they were with the UN and simply has no sense of how to properly protect a military base and what would be acceptable for a UN inspection. It’s not like Huey knew infiltration tactics and I could totally see Skullface keeping him fully in the dark up until they kidnap him.
