He is a medic. And a medic always wanted to help as much people as he can. Except for tf2 medic you know the one who take entire Bone from his patient body.
+mjolnir1208 according to tumblr it was flaming buffalo. I mean..not according to tumblr but they do seem to feel like she is the most important DD operator. ( gee I wonder why)
Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. Sun Tzu
Eh kind of. I’m a soldier and an NCO. You also have to look at your soldiers as teammates. They’re your peers. They’re autonomous and work best when they’re confident enough to take initiative.
we r not sure about that! you see we dont know when the last conversation between miller and ocelot happend, so could already know who he really is by this scene.....
The way I see it, Miller already knew and has playing along, but soon began respecting him, as you can see trough out the game, little by little, he sees Venom more and more as the true Big Boss
He knew from the beginning, he saw Big Boss and Venom in the hospital after the crash. Big Boss was in a coma but had his hand. Venom has the shrapnel and a missing hand. Venom saved Miller had a bionic Arm and shrapnel in his head. Miller is A++ on intel, he’s not stupid.
@@duesexmachina6570 Miller and the rest were brainwashed afterwards to believe that Venom truly was the real Big Boss. He may have seen the medic, but for sure him and Ocelot had their memories wiped and Miller was played like a damn fiddle.
I like how when Venom says "We are Diamond Dogs" the camera pans out to include Ocelot in the shot...but not Huey. As if to foreshadow Venom at Huey's trial when he says "Kaz, you were right, he is not one of us." Brilliantly directed.
+Mark9013100 "We'll make diamonds from their ashes..." Mother Base is now in the red "Fuck, Kaz... We'll have to pay for our newest cardboard box with our former allies..."
What people don't notice, or perhaps don't comment on, is that Venom Snake ALMOST gave him the Sea Burial. He almost cast them away, and then he decided not to. He changed his mind at the last moment, because he didn't want to lose their only and final remnants. Not because he had to, not because he wanted to act like Big Boss, but because he didn't want to lose his men in that final moment; he wanted to keep their memory alive, not only for his men, but also for himself. He chose to keep them rather than to throw him away. That will always speak to who he really is, Big Boss, Medic, or otherwise.
Medic. He is nothing like the real big boss in my opinion. He's better. He's his opposite. Him and Kaz stayed loyal to the men, while ocelot and the real big boss used and betrayed their own soldiers. I've always respected venom more than the real boss.
Another thing people miss is that what Venom Says is almost the same exact thing Skullface said to the dying patient right before the Man on Fire Boss fight. This is the cutscene where Venom fully became Skullface’s Phantom.
@@JGAS1Venom Snake became Skullface’s Phantom and carried on his legacy while Big Boss tried to stop the cycle of retaliation. Confirmed by Kojima himself.
@alexdeghost2729 i understand Kojima is the series creator and all, but if he actually said this, then he's out of his fucking mind. Matter of fact, Big Boss's whole supervillain speech to Snake in Metal Gear 2 is about how badly he wants to keep the chain of retaliation going to let the dream of Outer Heaven live.
The way kaz is standing there. A shadow of his former self, Legless, armless and pretty much blind. Yet standing there as Proud and straight as any of them. you've got to think about how little muscle there has to be left on his body, without legs and arms to properly keep in shape, yet he's standing there taller than Huey ever would.
+DrIScream Eh, kinda. He really does care for Big Boss either way. Zero also was never a true enemy to Big Boss if you listen to the truth tapes in MGSV. Skullface was not in league with Zero. Skullface actually tried to kill him. Zero was not responsible for the falling of MSF. Kaz is also the one who basically raised Solid Snake.
People bitch about this being Phantom and not the real Boss, and that the real Boss isn't shown as a villain, but to be honest, I think the absence of Boss demonstrates this itself. Phantom is supposed to be a better Big Boss than Boss ever could be. He deserves to be the true Boss, but is in the real ones shadow. That is the true phantom pain.
+DimebagVision Nah man, Venom Snake got more done than Solidus ever did, even as his turn as President of the United States. His part in Shadow Moses blew up in his face, and the whole Big Shell incident failed in spectacular fashion, capped off with being killed by Raiden. Venom Snake put together Diamond Dogs and took down Skull Face and his nonsense scheme, then did the whole Outer Heaven thing years later. If anything, this game showed that Venom Snake is on par with Big Boss, at the least. As for Big Boss's sons, Solid Snake is the best. His triumphs at Outer Heaven, Zanzibarland, and Shadow Moses, his personal decision to fight for a better future between MGS1 and MGS2 (read: character development), and making peace with Big Boss at the end of MGS4 is pretty sound proof.
+lord smidders I totally agree with you.. V is better Big Boss than the real one..He ketp his ideals. Big boss "sold the world" he turn his back on his dead soldiers and founded the patriots with zero.. cipher or whoever he was
***** You don't need to insult me..big boss tell to snake something at the mgs4 epilogue that sounds like he sold the world..big boss became the bad guy..meanwhile V was the good guy..
This mission was the hardest in the game, not because of its difficulty, but because of the emotional baggage of being forced to end your own men as they salute you one last time.
@@demoneon9527 yeah it does. Thats the only issue I had playing prequel games. You KNOW they are dead. I truly want to know what would have happened if Big boss never pulled the trigger. How much the world would have changed
There are plenty of great scenes in this game despite the weak story and this sums up the most frustrating aspect of this game. The story falls apart and begins to get boring and disjointed (do three missions and just wait for a cutscene to happen with no logical cause, repeat). But then parts of the game such as the quarantine platform, the hospital prologue, and the bloody warehouse full of patients, almost everything Kaz has to say, the end of Quiets storyline, and the end of GZ (if that counts) are all just so well done and memorable. A game getting so much right but then missing the mark in other areas might be more frustrating than a game that just fails across the board.
TPP's story is mostly muddled due to executive fuckery on Konami's part. Game production, a lot like mainstream movie production, is driven by profit, shareholders, and marketing teams. Metal Gear's explosive budget is due to all of the blood and sweat poured into animating, voicing, and writing scenes like this. Had instead Kojima had his way with the story, had profits and sales targets not have been a concern, this is but a small glimpse of what could have always been.
+Bjarki Þorleifsson True. David Hayter overplays his dialogues which makes sense when you consider how MGS has always been over the top and on the verge of parody but MGS5 is a game that takes itself a little bit more seriously and for that reason Kiefer Sutherland did a great job on those lines.
+DimebagVision Totally agree with you on Hayter as Snake. I know people love him a lot, though I feel a lot of that is sentimentality. I honestly just can't enjoy Hayter's voice acting because it sounds overdone (in a bad way) to me. On the other hand, Kiefer has that real rich gritty voice that just seems to fit the role of a battle-hardened war veteran.
Unpopular opinion but I really like MGSV’s story. There’s just something beautiful about it that I can’t explain whenever I get myself into arguments about why it’s good, guess it’s preference or something.
The avarage fan that cries about game being incomplete and Venom having no personality are the same people who usually stop playing after they take down the sahelanthropus. Even the sidequest with Paz is enough to realize that Ahab is hypnotized to be a remorseless soldier but ends up grieving over what he couldn't save. Big Boss would just move on and keep his bodycount going. Venom's entire personality is one that has been locked away and tries to shine trough the darkness that is the Big Boss's meme. People just can't see that in their 3 hour gameplay so they call Venom out for not having a personality.
LambdaCore I think they were setting up that Eli plot line for metal gear solid six but then the whole Konami stabbing Kojima in the back thing happened
Get new staff members? You should be encountering more soldiers that are at least A rank in one field after the mission that leads to this cutscene anyway. It's been a while since I played the game. About 2 years, I think.
Shout out to my stepdad, Doug, for playing through a good chunk of this game. I know I made fun of you for stupid shit like how you had to wear the chicken hat, but I’m glad you wanted to learn about something I was so hyper fixated on. Rest In Peace man. You’ll always be a diamond dog.
Big Boss: Used Venom as a tool despite being used as one himself. Venom: Never used his men as tools and did things himself without ever asking for more. Eva: Manipulative and in service of a greater agenda. Quiet: Was true to you to the end and gave everything up for you, and never lied to you. Knowing these things, every counter argument rings hollow to me. I love both Venom and Quiet for what they did.
Xx Lone Wolf 88 11 xX are you fucking dumb? the reason why quiet attack the solider is he was infected the FUCKING parasite,how is that not try to warn them? On top of that,SHE CANT SPEAK THE FUCKING LANGUAGE.parasite remember? and the reason why she wont take the treatment is the parasite is THE ONLY REASON she was still alive,the burn in the opening scene destroyed her lungs,she NEED the parasite in order to survive,to let the parasite act as her skin to breathe.
Uh, the vocal cord parasite is an entirely different strain from the parasites keeping her alive, the one that covers. The wolbachia treatment was to deal with VCP specifically. I agree with the rest however.
@@Rad-Dude63andathird and big boss didn't try to stop him and in the end (mission 46) he only sends him a fucking cassette tape. He didn't even meet venom to thank him.
Venom Snake was the best Big Boss. Awful pacing and disjointed-ness aside, look at his entire existence in MGSV. Every decision Venom Snake ever made was to save people. I think it is evident that he had his own personality and morals despite being hypnotized into Big Boss. Big Boss, Huey, the kids, Quiet, DD, the fact that the demon meter is highly dependent on killing people instead of knocking out/fultoning. The Paz cutscenes make it obvious that somewhere deep down, Medic is haunted by not being able to save Paz. The ending is the ultimate conflict for Venom Snake, because in order to save the rest of Motherbase, he has to kill his own men. Venom Snake tried to save everyone, even if it ultimately leads to his destruction. He was introduced to us showing that he was willing to do it in the most literal sense.
Very good summary of his character. Venom is a fascinating character, and an underappreciated one I'd say. Some people think he's just a random medic or that he just represents the player (that's partially true, more on that in a minute), and even though we don't know much about his past except that he was the best and most trusted soldier Big Boss had on his side, his tragic story in MGSV (and later MG, I guess) was gripping. He has a very distinctive personality (for example he's willing to forgive and tries to avoid violence, as we see mostly in the second chapter of the game), though his character development is mostly subtle (that's why he speaks through actions, which I preferred compared to long expositions. Body language and subtle expressions also play a bigger role in this game). All of his decisions are justified once you understand that he was a brainwashed man who tried to act the way he thought Big Boss would act, after he was given his role. Thus, he ended up being a better version of Big Boss and a contrast to him, by trying to emulate his persona, and that way Kojima was able to explore two characters at once. That doesn't mean that Venom's perfect of course. The way he intended to treat the child soldiers was... morally corrupt. During scenes like the one I just mentioned we can see the tear between his real self, and the one of a war monger that he was forced to be (not to mention the optional stuff like the construction of nukes or the combat deployment missions, through which you can basically risk the lives of your soldiers in order to gather materials, money etc with the press of a button, a simple order. Shady stuff, I prefer saving animals). Now, about the twist that you're not Big Boss, but you're... you, more or less, I loved it. I like it when games tell a story by taking advantage of the medium's capabilities, and MGSV is a good example. I don't know why the general consensus is that Kojima gave us a pat in the back during the true ending, he actually showed us indirectly how Big Boss became an utter piece of shit (which is what people wanted from V, cause apparently they didn't get it with MGS3 and especially Peace Walker) by revealing that he exploited us throughout the whole game and took credit for everything we did, while we got erased from history. We became a proxy. Not to mention that Big Boss treated Venom the way The Boss got treated, and not just the way he himself got treated by the US. It was his ultimate downfall and after this his MG2:SS speech made total sense. Also, it's an inversion of MGS2's ending, with Venom's identity being taken away from him forever, while Raiden was encouraged to find a new one, and stop being a pretender. edit: Made some edits to make my point a bit clearer. Sorry for the long ass comment. edit 2: It's pretty important that Venom is a medic and not a "regular" soldier, as stated by others. Once you know that, the Paz side quest makes way more sense. There's a sense of a repressed, burdening psychological trauma, and regret. Then, there's the quarantine stuff, that's even worse. It's sad that most players didn't appreciate the more subtle storytelling, thus claiming that "there's no story" in MGSV. My belief is that they got used to most things being explained and felt alienated (which isn't good, because there's a lot to unpack in every mainline entry, especially on a meta-narrative level. Even in the messy, overexplanatory MGS4).
@@prskt7584 David overdid the snake voice after 2 and showed little emotion with old snake for what its worth Keifer puts more soul in big boss than David ever could in MGS3 and PW
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 Depends do you believe the theory using the info of big boss being turned into a cyborg post MGS 1 to mean venom 'lived' in some form after that?
+Francesco Favro I think it's actually taken from a number of cultures where rubbing the ashes of the deceased into your skin or face is a way of taking in the sorrow and/or anger of the deceased. It's a declaration of the intent to carry out revenge.
MegaLadysman1234 That actually clears up all my questions, not going to lie. I could never pinpoint why he thought of smearing a soldier's ashes on his face, nor did I bother to look it up.
@@captainitalia811Because it looks badass and is very extreme even with the cultural shit aside. If I was a soldier and saw my commander do that I would shit bricks
@@eduardomagana3858 what do you mean by that? Venom snake is a phantom but barely reacts to anything, even when fire Volgin is trying to burn him alive
I actually cried as I had to shoot the people in that room, as they salute you. I mean, I remembered people that I extracted, where I found them... The ending did feel abrupt, but when it hit me, it left a damnably clean mark.
+HollowGaming The boss will know what to do, Tell us boss what to do. I wanted at least one to survive and then to have that torn away felt like shit man.
+drago2021 "We live and die by your order, Boss!" That cut me deep. Here are people who joined the military in hopes of joining the ranks of the legendary Big Boss. They dreamed of serving under you. And you _had_ to murder them.
+drago2021 i damn need a video of this moment.... all video i could find people jsut stupidly shoot like fucking asshole =..= i like leastenned to this for 5-10 minute XD
Kiefer's voice matched so well with the image of Big Boss, even if you did not know all the legend behind the guy, just by looking at the character and hearing his voice is enough for you to see this huge presence that exales discipline, righteousness and pride.
+CF-105 Games It's a different person, David Hayter IS the voice of Solid Snake and Naked Snake, but Venom is a different character, so it makes perfect sense that he'd be voiced by someone else.
I played this episode the night when my grandfather died,he was an anti war person and didn’t know the truth till the morning but i knew it when saw him.Such a champ,because he was so childish and welcoming.I cried my ass off and just memories remains,still it’s beautiful.
People are really bitter about MGSV, but there are some scenes, such as this one, and the Paz hallucinations, that make up for all the bad stuff, i've never felt so emotional toward a game as i have watching these scenes, and because of that i hold MGSV in very high regard.
I don't believe I've ever hated and NPC more than Huey Emmerich. Phantom Boss is more merciful than I would have been. I wish there was an option to kill him during the trial... easy choice for me.
If someone would tell me year ago, that my favorite characte from the entire series will some random medic, I would laugh him off. Now I stand here and salute you Venom!
Paramedic is Snake's strongest soldier, the most loyal and bravest of all. That's the reason why Snake and Ocelot chose him to become Venom. He's devoted to Snake since PW and even after knowing the truth in TPP ending.
I personally found the game quite frustrating. Never finished it cause I thought it was too ridiculous. Plot was so complicated I felt like I needed a PHD in just about every subject to even understand a quarter of it. All this talk of clones and multiple people who are the same person but aren't actually the same person? I was more lost than Matt Damon on Mars. Gameplay was so overly complicated I was having a hard time trying to figure out what I had to do next. I didn't like that I had to balance an ever dismishing resource that was spent upon every action I did. Sorting people into specific roles is fine but ti was detail oriented I just got annoyed with it. Also, for a guy who is supposed to be stealthy, why does he make so much noise?
@@HybridSpektar I'm guessing V was your first game? MGS is a large series driven mainly by the story with a distinct play style which changes over the course of the series. V is actually one of the weakest in story (though I believe it has really grown on the fandom after replaying and understanding it more.) But I wouldn't say it's the best introduction to the series since it's right in the middle of the timeline as it ties up a lot of loose ends. MGS 1 or MGS 3 would ease someone into the lore and game play better as 3 is the first chronologically and 1 is the first 'game' game. (Not counting Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake)
@@CerealKiller the story was there and there were plenty of casettes. The story is complex enough but with less cutscenes than what we were used to. And it is not unfinished lol the boss arc is finished, just the ending for elli ismissing and its not a great deal.
This is my first metal gear game but I thought the story was great even if it "fell flat and uncompleted". As a new player all these interesting characters had me guessing who they were and what was going to happen. The phantom pain was one of the best games ive played. I loved each cutscene and getting them was a treat because most of the characters were quick to like. The story about war, disease, child soldiers, revenge, and everything was really dark and the detail into the character's backstories through tapes made it even better.
I feel what made this scene for me was the sniffle in between "I won't see you end as ashes" and "You're all diamonds." It is such a small thing but it made me just want to believe in Venom as this man who honestly treats all his comrades as true family.
Well without spoiling too much, he keeps lying and contradicting himself - also he's a douchebag that ruins some scenes when he pulls a trigger on someone or a bit before this scene where he suddenly charges in and go "how could you do that! they were your men!", like eff off they were dying anyways and we later find out it's your fault! Douchebag.
To be fair Huey's presence is supposed to be the inbetween but not quite the same as Ocelot and Kaz. So in this case, Huey wanted to try to keep them quarantined and try to cure them.
Something I just realized here... that I knew didn't sit right the first time when I didn't know this wasn't Big Boss... was how unlike Jack he acted here. This isn't something Big Boss would do. It's out of character. And that's because it's not him. This is Venom, his own person. A once medic who was one of the many faces of the expendable MSF soldiers. The irony of Big Boss is that he wanted a place unlike Gene's "Army's Heaven"; "a place not of soldiers, but for them" "somewhere outside your heaven". And here he is, abandoning them like they're nothing. What was felt here was Venom feeling the pain of his comrades because he is one of them, although he may not consciously know that since he's been hypotherapied. It's a more pure scene where he's just you, the player, a medic, an anyone of the bunch... One day I want to do a full case study on this game. Say what you will about MGSV, I feel like the more I look back on it, the more there is to unpack. It might not be appreciated in this time. But in years, this will be a game that was Kojima's finest and most fitting ways of dropping the mic with Konami and a swan song to an incredible saga. There's more than meets the eye with this game, and there's so much depth to it despite popular opinion. I hold it in highest regards next to MGS3/PW, and that's saying something for me as a long time fan. I respect Kojima's decisions in this game. In the words of Big Boss, "as long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket". "Will the times erase us, or work with us?"
I strongly recommend you to read Amy M. Green's book "Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, Trauma, and History in Metal Gear Solid V" It's a great read on both MGSV and ground zeroes
I honestly have to resist the urge to say that Big Boss abandoned them, big boss was simply traveling to create the perfect world for soldiers to live in. If you listen to the audio logs when he is first woken up in the hospital before Venom, he is very reluctant to go through with this plan to have Venom impersonate him while he leaves. But he knew it was necessary in order to take the proper steps towards creating Outer Heaven.
It's hard to tell. Jack may have been flippant throughout mgs3 and portable ops, he always seemed to have a high respect and regard for MSF during peace walker. The incident that transpired during ground zeroes would be a little heavy: a false inspection leads to the sinking of motherbase, the murder of almost all his soldiers, watching paz explode in her freefall? When you consider it in it's full context, he really didn't abandon much of anything. It was taken from him. In starting over, he put running outer heaven as his priority yes, but left setting up the public eye of big boss through diamond dogs in the hands of what people he knew he could trust to pull through: Miller, Ocelot, and one of the only surviving soldiers of MSF in the medic. A man he trusted enough to be him. While venom's actions with this are absolutely all his own, I wouldn't discount big boss to not have honored the fallen in some way as well.
There’s something about the delivery of the line “I won’t see you end as ashes” that deeply affects me. It’s up to us to carry on the legacy of the friends we lose. To keep them with us for the rest of our days despite them not being here anymore.
It only gets worse when you realize Venom was actually a Medic whom only wishes to save and stabilize lives. I can't imagine how helpless he'd be feeling and for anyone who's in the Medical field,It's literally the worst kind feeling Circumstances really did made it impossible for him :(
To all those who despise the ending and the fact that this isn't even the real, legendary, Big Boss. this dude here, the Phantom is the Big Boss we all wanted and deserved. a leader, proudly posing as both the gun and the shield on behalf of all his comrades and one that doesn't simply let their memory fade into the ocean. what we learn here is that there always will be something better. that when we make a choice, we can always choose to be a better or worse version of ourselves. the real Big Boss made his choice alright: to abandon his comrades in order to protect his head. this is what would have become of him if he hadn't done so, if he had the courage to face the world and fight not for his ambition but for the sake of his comrades, both the ones lost in the Caribbean, the ones lost here in the Seychelles and the ones that still remained and carried his Phantom Pain with him. Venom Snake is, to me, the real Big Boss. the Boss that, in the end, didn't get disillusioned and tyrranical, the Boss that wanted to live like a free man, the man who left his mark upon the world. not the man who sold it.
OoJoshioO Venom Snake died a proud man at least. despite the fact that he never saw himself as the hero he truly was, but as a demon brought back from hell.
I agree. I was initially upset we weren't playing the real Big Boss...But now to me, Venom is Big Boss. A better Big Boss than Naked Snake ever was. He has a compassion about him that Naked Snake just really doesn't. Venom is my favorite MGS character.
V Not only that but I just love the ending because of how Kojima made the players part of the legacy of the entire series. Venom Snake is us and we helped create this legacy, I mean BB even tells you that. In a very cool and Kojima way, he literally made it so that players were responsible for crafting the MGS series.
Everytime a video like this pops up in my feed, I just spend hours and hours reading the comments, always looking for heartfelt and interesting things people say. It's only with MGS I do this with, no other Game franchise has made me do things like this. It's magical almost.
Indeed. People complain about David not doing the voice over in V, but I just can't see him pulling off the dialogue like Kiefer did. That's not to say David is bad. He's great, but it just wasn't his style. The decision to get Keifer was perfect in my book. I just wish he had more lines..
PickledCarrots PickledCarrots Probably not. But when Hal tells the story of how Huey committed suicide because he caught Hal with his wife, all I can think now is: "Good. Couldn't have happened to a better piece of shit. And he tried to take an innocent child with him. How fucking typically cowardly of him."
Why can't I make pencils out of them? You get like 500 from 1 person. You could sell them and help fund mother base. And bring them into battle and take notes!
You know, I've been going back and replaying this game, and when you look deeper into it, the story is actually very very good, even though I think it isn't the best presenting them in cassette tapes, what's there is amazingly interesting
Fans don't like it because the tapes are a compromise, Kojima wanted a far longer game but the funding needed wasn't permitted by Konami. Just look at the bonus footage of Sahelanthropus on the island.
naked snake killed his mother figure for his country venom snake killed his brothers in arms for his country (outer heaven) I guess this scene was supposed to imply he truly became big boss or something like that
This is why I feel Sutherland was the better pick for MGSV's Big Boss. The only time I've seen Solid Snake as sorrowful as Big Boss in this scene is in thr Meryl death ending in MGS1. And if Hayter provided a performance like that for a scene like this, it wouldn't have been as effective. The subtle nature of Sutherland's performance is pretty good. Was Sutherland the best pick? I don't know. Would Hayter have done a better job? I say, no. And that's ok. It's just my opinion.
To me, this was the scene that settled it once and for all. David Hayter's gruff overacting had a certain charm in a series known for being over the top and every bit as campy as it is melodramatic, but this game had a very different feel from the others and Snake really needed a more understated performance to match. Sutherland's lines were few but all were memorable, meaningful, and delivered just right. Even though I think MGSV suffers from being unfocused and not having any of the memorable boss fights the series is known for (apart from Quiet), Venom Snake has become my favorite of the Snakes, and a large part of that is Sutherland.
Sarge I 100% agree. There are still silly things in this game but the tone is different. It's a lot more serious and Snake having this goofy garbled voice just wouldn't feel right, and honestly I think Hayter would have ruined this scene if he was in it. BB needed a voice that demanded attention and was battle hardened that you could tell had real pain and history behind the man, and that's something Hayter never could do. Sutherland sounds like an old soldier while Hayter sounds like a goof trying to sound tough.
pollo20x6 I agree. sutherland's performance was really good taking that role. with his voice, i can actually feel how dead inside big boss / venom snake sounds like because he had to go through all these horrible stuff
Kojima should've never put so many pivotal scenes in his trailers. Imagine if I never knew this scene would happen. Or that I would come back to base at one point and have to shoot my own soldiers.
starfox300 Well, that was the smart move. I just love trailers, but now I think I'm going to start watching less trailers overall from now on. I've already gone on media blackout for Star Wars. Got no idea what's going on in Ep VII. The ZombieMan Yeah, I trusted that when kojima put these kinds of scenes in, it wouldn't take away from the experience too much. But little did I know that most of the good shit happens in Ch 2. Just wish I had never watched those trailers now -_-
Robert Koh but if he didn't you wouldn't had been emotionally invested in the trailers, besides the scene is still amazing when you take in what happened before
The ZombieMan I will admit, the scenes make for powerful trailers. But that's because the scenes themselves are so strong. I'm a fan of MGS, I was invested when I first saw it at the beginning of Xbox's E3 presser, the one with Quiet's Theme and Sins of the Father. Wish I didn't know the quarantine mission or the ash scene existed. Would have been a beautiful surprise.
When Metal Gear 1 gets remade, theres going to be alot of grown men crying because you have to kill Venom Snake, and its definitely going to have a cutscene
Man I really agree. David Hayter's snake is iconic.... but man there is something about Kiefer's delivery and more realistic voice that makes scenes like these hit so much harder
"I won't scatter your sorrows to the heartless sea." *Pauses, takes some ash from the urn, and turns slowly to face Kaz* "Boss, what're y-" *Big Boss throws ash at Kaz* "Ash-ball fight!" *Everyone on base grabs a urn and starts throwing ash at each other*
Venom Snake is so much better than Big Boss. That's something a lot of people don't like hearing, but its true. He makes all of the hardest decisions for everyone around him, he loves his soldiers like a family, more than Big Boss ever did, and he is always there to take on heacy responsibilities that he knowns he can't handle.. Big Boss saw PFs and PMCs as more of a business; of course, this was because he thought The Boss' will was to make all soldiers accepted, but in reality it was to keep everything the same. Venom Snake tore that apart. He rose to be an enormous military power, a living legend, out of his own reputation, not Big Boss'. He made Diamond Dogs not just into a military nation, but an actual world power. I think he understood The Boss' will the most, because he didn't have the deep connection to The Boss that Big Boss did. He rescued POWs and child soldiers daily, and saved the world. He's the real Snake.
You know venom snake turned evil and murdered thousands of innocent people right he was taking people hostages kidnappings attacking government how the fuck can you call that a good guy even know what the concept of a good man is to me it seems like you're good concept of a fucking good guy is Charles Manson
"When you pick up a gun there's always a chance you'll die for nothing. He knew that as well as the rest. Now that he's gone, it's up to us to decide what it was all worth" - Venom Snake
The most heart breaking part of the mission leading up to this cutscene was that the iDroid still played the "Staff Member Died" announcement every time you have to shoot one of the guys when previously you only hear that sound after random events that happen at mother base when one of them dies in the sick bay or something. *bang* "Staff Member Died" *Bang* "Staff Member Died" *Bang* "Staff Member Died" Also I'm pretty sure everyone was about ready to reach through their monitor and slam Huey's head into a wall when he kept talking shit even up into the cutscene >:(
I've never felt hatred for someone even in real life like the hatred I have for huey. Dare I say I never felt true hatred until seeing what his character had done.
Yesterday, my friend Clive passed away. He was the one who was there for me. We played hours and hours of games, and called on discord for several nights a week. I'm really lost for words right now and don't know what to do. Rest easy, Clive.
Yes there is. Early on someone in the comments mentioned that in India (or someplace nearby) people do the very same ritual and throw ashes into a river (or maybe even specific river). But only when intending on taking vengence upon someone responsible for family members death. Including reciting of the words. As you can imagine such ritual has tribal roots.
You are correct, they go by the name Aghori. They tend to the dead, and cover themselves in the ashes of the deceased. They also carry around a bowl made of the top of a skull, which they eat and drink from.
+ChingChangWang when moby dick was originally released it was unfinished as well... Ahab,Pequod, a gigantic fire whale... this game was presented a long time ago thought to be a new IP by an indie studio called Moby Dick... I'm just saying, Kojima will always be Kojima
Ferfles you sound salty, why are you pointing at ME making excuses? I didnt make the game and I'm not a Publisher, chill out bro, if you have problems take a cold fucking shower
Big boss: Would you rather i go underwater and bury the bodies instead? Huey: YES! Big boss: ..... *Throws Huey's legs into the ocean* Miller: That's the third time this week, Where do you keep getting these legs?" Huey: I never tell. Miller: ... *Tortures Huey for the 50th time*
I couldn't hold back the tears, even when I had to kill them when they all were saluting at me. "We live and die by your order Boss" This left a scar in my heart. Such an amazing scene and game, Thanks for uploading!
