MIA(NG++) Cut? Dialogue (Pater | G6 Red) | AC6 

Allmind legit said, you wont be needing these guys anymore

@@bombomos They cant hand out missions if the handlers are dead...

"A chain made of human links is easily broken."

​​@@dionrussell9681Walter is still alive on the Xylem with Carla They moved forward their plans after your supposed death

​​@@chaz706fucking chills when I first heard that

They helped with story too

What? But I heard those lines when I played the game.

​@@DarkstarArchangeli think it was just delivered differently. The script is the same

They weren't cut. I heard all of them in game after multiple play-throughs of that mission. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but Pater is characterized as being bipolar in the game and I think sometimes you get the manic Pater, where he seems mad with power and ambition as he climbs the ranks of the Vespers, while other times you get the depressed Pater who is sad that all of his friends and colleagues have died. Dual-natured indeed.

@@frequentfrenzied Well his AC is named Dual Nature, so either he is a two-faced, or he might had split-personality, which we cannot confirm.

I spammed to have him put that in there

That is why you should smile, don't you know? Serious ones die first. So crack a smile joke a little but don't let em see your eyes

Thats questionable to call someone good in ac

@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 nah you're just destroyed or survived by a percentage

My first playthrough, I avoided that mission. And my second. And my third. Finally realized I had to in order to complete combat logs. Was the hardest fight, not because it was physically difficult, but because it was emotionally difficult. Even killing the mts. It hurt. I still wish there was an ending that involved balam coming out on top, but they didn't have a chance from the start.

It also makes me wonder if there was a callsign for guns 8 through 12. Because it seems a bit odd that they jump straight to 13.

@@Prawl-cd6sj G13 is an open call sign they probably keep for independents who work with the Redguns. It's also probably the callsign they give to either novice pilots or people who aren't intended to live long. Michigan makes this clear during one mission where he clearly states that C4-621 Raven is "the longest living Gun 13 in history." The sad line from G6 Red is probably further evidence of this, along with how he thinks on the curse of that number. As for why there may not be a callsign for guns 8-12... I have a grim theory. The Redguns have run into so much bad luck on Rubicon that there isn't a G8, or G9... or so on. The early death of G7 (which is supposed to be a lucky number) should've been seen as an Omen that this expedition to Rubicon would be cursed.

Interesting that the Redguns are all named after Earth rivers, lakes or waterfalls (G1 Michigan/Lake Michigan, G5 Iguazu/Iguazu Falls, G6 Red/Red Sea). In a darkly amusing touch, the first Redgun to die, G7 Hakra, is named after the Ghaggar-Hakra river, a dried-up river between India and Pakistan.

​@@VictorIV0310 damn..😢

I think we could just run right? I do kill him the first time for the combat log and ignore him the 2nd time, as I think he could handle those MT himself easily anyway

​@@leesasukino you cant run, the area is locked

@@koptify oh damn, poor dude...

@@leesasukiwell I’ve heard that if you are too slow in MIA and get to where G6 is he’ll already be dead

Its there for context as the other line plays after that one.

Maybe Allmind made O'keefe kill Rusty. "See you on the other side Rusty" If we dont follow through with killing snail and went to kill the Ibis series, would rusty still appear in both other ending? If he does, then im definitely wrong about rusty being dead.

​@@bobikoartyeah i think thats what happens. Cuz rusty is technically the only one who could stand up to us at this point

Rusty was meant to die, so they probably all thought he's dead. He seems to mostly work by himself anyway so none of them really cared to keep tab.

​@@bobikoartRusty is always thought to be dead after our first fight. In the liberator ending there is even a line that adresses Rusty with "shouldn't he be dead?" So it's likely that he just faked his death after that.

Rusty is considered dead by Arquebus which means he’s gone into hiding with the RLF. In the Xylem mission where Walter and Carla are defending the ship from Allmind’s forces disguised as Arquebus, Carla notes there’s six Vespers attacking the ship, and none of them are specified to be Rusty. Same goes for Freud seeing as it’s 6 and not 7 Vespers attacking the ship. Freud was never the true leader of the Vespers, he was just their greatest pilot and Snail was the actual leader

Do you recall the general decisions of that playthrough, or anything of note?

Not entirely, but i believe i was throwing in with the liberation front at every chance on ng++.

Dang, no idea what it could be then. I've ran this on 3 playthroughs(Pro RLF and Corpo + my first run)@@ciaranartorias264

@awhellnah__There's only 3 decision missions(Escort Strider, Coral Export, and V.III) that are needed for Allminds route, all other decisions dont lock you out.

Yeah 😕

V.II and V.I were probably reserved considering they were the overall highest in the command structure, working in an administrative capacity and organizing even the other Vespers’ operations

He doesn't seem sure if Snail is dead yet in his own dialogue so he probably hasn't been ascended yet if Snail's death is still unconfirmed

Because Arquebus still exists and SNAIL "IS ARQUEBUS!"

@@hakageryu-hz7jz EEEEEEUYAAAAAAAUGH

Our encountere with pater was probably less then an hour after we greased snail, they hadn’t confirmed his death yet and even if they did pater probably still wouldn’t just immediately be given the title of V2 as it is more of a ceo position

The "No - Don't" is included for context as shown in the top left. The following lines about the backdraft are what I was unable to trigger nor have I seen it in any other playthrough of the mission.

@@GreyCaliber oh, sorry for misunderstanding then. Went through my recordings but I don't have that line either :(

These dialogues(minus the context ones) were ones I was unable to trigger in multiple runs/across different playthroughs. It's very possible there's some unknown rare condition to trigger some of these, though.

@awhellnah__ Volta did die at the wall. His AC wreck can be seen surrounded by RLF MTs. He just manages to eject if you betray him and Iguana at the dam mission.

​​@@malicious_fetus8454so how is he dead if he ejected?

@@mohammadsaleem5990 Because he, for some reason, couldn’t eject when he fought at the wall. He only ejected on the dam mission.

some uncut lines were added for context

I hear there is unique dialog if you load preset AC data into missions

I'm pretty sure Raven is 617, considering how in the cinematic trailer they lost both the head and left arm pieces of their ac, theres a cinematic with an ac salvaging an arm, and Nightfall has a custom head while being the only other ac in the entire game to use the Orbiter parts.

I'm pretty sure Raven is 617, considering how in the cinematic trailer they lost both the head and left arm pieces of their ac, theres a cinematic with an ac salvaging an arm, and Nightfall has a custom head while being the only other ac in the entire game to use the Orbiter parts.

Which lines in particular, was this a replay, playthrough decisions, and general mission playstyle(rushing,killing everything etc)? They might have not, but probably tied to some trigger that 99% people have not met(I've done this mission on three different playthroughs for testing).

@@GreyCaliber I can't say for all of them as some of them are unfamiliar, but I definitely remember hearing Pater's lines about O'Keefe. On my first playthrough of this mission, all of Pater's lines were sad. He gave the two about O'Keefe that were featured in this video followed by the one where he says "V.III Pater... Had a good ring to it." between sobs when he ran out of repairs and got below 50% AP. It really made me feel bad about killing him. When I played this mission again to S rank it, I got the crazier, more angry version of Pater. He didn't say any of the sad sounding lines that time. I think Pater is supposed to be Bipolar and it might be random which version of him you get when you play a mission that includes him. I also know that a bunch of the triggers for this game are/were messed up. I only ever saw V.VII Swinburne actually fly off once, and I had to do that mission a bunch of times when I was trying to beat Rokumonsen. Most of the time Swinburne would just sit there for a long time until the cut-scene where Rokumonsen flies in played.

Those O'Keeffe lines(in this video) are actually just different deliveries surprisingly(although the damn yous are almost identical). Which platform did you play this on? It wouldn't surprise me if its bugged or just a very rare occurrence.

Hakra, yeah, we find his AC at the very first mission, but he means the moment G13/Raven joined everything went south for them

PCA was kicked out by the corporations, and their left over stuff were taken by Arquebus, that included their late model LCs which Pater had switched to because the PCA stuff are supposed to be more advance than any AC.

Also, I'm pretty sure pater's old AC was trashed by 621 earlier (or, if not by them, then potentially by middle flatwell)

​@@dodobird679to be fair pater being an opportunist would grab a high mobility or an HC anyway

@@dodobird679 Well you won't reached this path if you picked the mission to assassinate the Vespers, so I believe Pater was either unharmed by Middle Flatwell's solo ambush (if it still happens without you), or the assassination didn't happen at all on this path.

You find his wreck and considering he never shows up ever again it's quite clear Volta died there.

Which ones? I have yet to see anyone trigger some of these lines in several videos of this mission, unless you mean the context lines which are included uncut lines for well, context. Pater does have some lines that reuse the words, but the delivery is different.

@@GreyCaliber the ones about finding a balam straggler, and then the one about g-6 red, then his dialogue. You can find him in Mia under a room.

@@isaacmarcucci3777 The balam stragglers is a context line. How do you think I took pictures of the fight if I didnt encounter him? The rest of it might not be cut, but Ive yet to see/hear anyone trigger those lines in any other video with him beyond 3 total people out of all the other comments.

@@GreyCaliber how about you just run the Mission over dude? They don't say "stragglers" they say "straggler" aka a singular AC aka G6 red. I'm not trying to say your wrong but I literally did the mission before commenting to get my last battle log and did it again just now. Remember this too, almost every AC you fight has, a beating you up line, a killed you line, a line when using their last repair kit, a low health line, and a time based line for their excerpt.

I'm not sure why you're getting so hostile over a typo in the reply, but go watch any other video of the fight including any other dialogue video that I've done: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zaMCt_lDCZA.html (its not the best, but I was still learning at the time) I'm not saying I don't believe its you, but its not like I did not sit there and recheck all the lines as I was taking photos. I can gladly upload a fresh video if you think I did not sit there for all the lines though.@@isaacmarcucci3777