Michael Jordan is tougher than LeBron James - is Dennis Rodman right? | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF 

Jordan was, is and forever will be the absolute GREATEST of ALL TIME.

MJ is tougher than LeBron! Thats fact!

Lebron has accomplished less than Jordan with more minutes... How does that help his case for being better? Dumb argument

OMG this show is like a public relations agency for LeBron. Just stop it.

I love how these ESPN commentators make all types of excuses for Lebron but criticize every one else on toughness, (especially the Warriors). Lebron is great and I'm sure the league will fix the Finals again so he can win, but he will NEVER BE what Jordan was to the NBA

It's getting ridiculous, I'm tire of hearing people compare LBJ to MJ...there is no comparison. LBJ isn't on MJ level, period....sorry

jordan is way tougher. bad boy pistons woulda ended lebrons life

Exactly. LeBron never been brutalized by any players. He flops a lot. They baby 🍼LeBron

Jordan: 6 NBA Finals, 6 NBA Finals MVP's, 6 Rings-0 Losses LeBron: 7 NBA Finals...3 Rings-4 Losses End of Debate, Jordan's the GOAT

It's crazy how lebron had played more games than Jordan and Jordan has More MVP's and twice as much rings and people have the nerve too compare the two.

For all that says but he had Pippen. Pippen was nothing. Bulls got him from the draft. Jordan worked with him and helpded make Pippen. Lebron never took a rookie under his wings and make him an allstar. This is why Jordan is Goat.

People are stupid if they think their elders aren't tougher than they are. They were tougher minded and physically tougher because the time and world was tougher.

Let me just frame this argument for everyone: When Jordan was at his peak, just about everyone in the league was in agreement that he is the best ever. His predecessors, both Magic and Larry said and still say he is the best ever. Larry even called him “God in basketball shoes.” 6 championship rings, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 MVPs, Defensive Payer of the Year, 2 Olympic GOLD medals, 10 Scoring Titles, NCAA Championship..:: The Jordan vs. LeBron debate will be put to bed when LeBron retires. And it will play out just like the Kobe debate. Y’all are just trying to compare him to Jordan to keep people interested in the NBA and to keep your jobs. When the real Jordan replacement comes in, there will be no debate, just like there wasn’t a debate with MJ. MJ wowed the entire world. LeBron isn’t at that level. He’s not a killer. He needs all stars around him that can take over games.

Eddie house has a Great Point stop comparing them

Cowherd is madly in love with Lebron...

The "more minutes" argument ACTUALLY works in Jordan's favor. It's simply more evidence that Lebron plays in a MUCH softer league. What I mean to say is 5 minutes getting beat into the ground (like ANY one who watched basketball knows Jordan did) is equal to 15 minutes in this cupcake, tippy tap, protect the superstar first league we have now.

Jordan way tougher than LeBron. LeBron admits this himself. Jordan had the brutal competitive spirit and mental edge matched by no one. In terms of physicality, Jordan was a cardio machine. Every full season Jordan played, it was almost every game. LeBron publicly talks about wanting days off, Jordan never asked to sit if he was healthy, NEVER EVER. Overall toughness, Jordan by a long mile.

Michael could probably have had 9 straight Finals (and won) had he not hung it up im between and.. I don't care how many Finals LeBron gets, he has zero competition in his conference and that's been the case ever since the former Boston big 3 dissolved. Obviously he's gonna get there every year.. and then he still ends up losing more than half of them! If James had to play in the West ever in his career I doubt he even makes(!) 3 Finals, let alone win one or two... So yeah, on degree of difficulty alone Jordan has the edge.. plus he's 6 for 6.

Jordan is tougher point blank period.

All 4 of these fools should not talk basketball... period

hard to believe lebron is in the same sentence as MJ, being clutch is one of the many reasons lebron will never be close.

Rodman has better credentials than any of these cartoons.

Lebron should be 1-7 in the finals, meanwhile Jordan never had to play in a game 7 ever. Case closed.

Lebron is skilled, but he's not tough at the same level. He doesn't have the consistent killer instinct. Lebron will do one cool thing and miss the next play down the court; Lebron will flop and sit out from little bumps; Lebron changes cities when he doesn't get his way despite having world-class people on his teams. Lebron sits down by stuff that would charge Jordan up.

Of course Mj way tougher.. Imagine Lebron faces Badboys The Detroit Pistons ??

This discussion is so stupid. Jordan had a much harder time then Lebron because of the rules, and of course you take this into account. Sure the players can't control what era they play in, but to compare the two players Lebron should be averaging like 40 points a game today, because you know Jordan would be nowadays. The rules today just favor perimeter players, so how can you not take that into account when comparing the two players?

GOATS don't flop!!

Michael of course and they aren't listening. It's like that conversation you have with someone that no matter what you say they only hear themselves.

lebron is on peds but the nba dont test him for it cuz he is the face of the league he started doing them when he was in miami

Mike is one of the toughest people ever. How is saying LBJ ain't as tough as Mike a knock on Lebron

It's MJ. Everyone is compared to MJ! Whenever a comparison is made it's always to MJ! Whether it's Kobe, LeBron, Iverson, whether it's a guard or forward! MJ comes up in almost every basketball conversation! The greatest of all-time!

They so easily forget that Mj has 6 rings in his whole career in 1,251 games. Lebron has 1,258 games in total, but only has 3 rings, and is still going on with his career, he ain't stopping any time soon. Jordan played in a physical era, lebron plays in a soft era. Lebron flops, Mj played hard. See the difference yet? Oh and also jordan played 1,251 games in total and is 4th overall in scoring. Lebron is still going on with his career, but isn't in the top 5 all time scoring leaders yet.

We really talking about Lebron being tougher than MJ? Lmao. Stop it. Lebron sits out for games. Jordan played whenever he could. Let's not forget the Flu/ Food poisoning game. I don't care how many Minutes Lebron has played, that does not make you tough. Lebron got punked by Lance Stephenson, let's not forget that.

MJ never flopped like leduche has. MJ greatest player ever period!

He'll never surpass MJ.. the moment he lost his first NBA Finals he was out of the picture.. I don't think any one can ever surpass MJ...

Colin loves Lebron like skip loves Jordan

More finals , more minutes, more games...but how many rings tho? Jordan has 3 more rings with less finals and less minutes...taking a brake after 3 and comming back and winning 3 more. Back to back to back twice!

lebron had to.go.to Miami to.join wade in order to win. MJ stayed and won for the city that drafted him. lebron should never be compared to mj. these analysts talk nonsense.

Here's the deal. In the Eastern Conference alone, come playoffs time MJ has to face these teams. 1.Charlotte with Zo, Rice and Curry. 2. Indiana with Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson and Rik Smiths, 3. back in the 80's ATL with Nique , 4. Orlando Magic with Shaq, Penny, and Mike Anderson 4. the New York Knicks with John Starks, Patrick Ewing, and Charles Oakley. 5. Atlanta again with Smith and Dikembe. 6. Miami with Zo, Smith, and Tim hardaway. Now all of these teams back in the late 80's and 90's can easily beat the Cavs and Warriors of today. I dont know why you have to look at an odometer or the length of playing mins. If you want who's tougher? MJ wouldnt like sitting on the bench just because he has to be rested. And for 82 regular season games he played lights out basketball win or lose. Lebron played longer coz he jumped from High School to the pro's and that pretty much common sense. But you know what?, i think LaVar Ball could guard either MJ or Lebron lights out! (sarcasm) haha. Peace out!

Chris carter had the audacity to say "who is Dennis Rodman" Rodman 5 rings Did Chris Carter ever even play in a Super Bowl?

Michael Jordan is happily retired give it a break he doesn't need anymore publicity he's doing just fine.

LeBron is tougher because he's still standing after all those hard flops he's done throughout his career.

why does cowherd have a job?

LMAO. Of COURSE Colin wants to discount the "who's tougher" argument altogether, because it's one he CANNOT win. Notice how he TOTALLY shifts his opinion from "Lebron is just as tough" to "toughness is overrated" as soon as Cris gave him the ammo for it LMAO.

toughness is not the same as endurance

Did they know that Lebron lost and is 3-5 in the NBA finals?

We need Cris Carter back on Sunday NFL Countdown

Your argument is flawed. The gentleman who supported Jordan is saying that the game was tougher and grittier. Yet the gentleman supported Lebron rebutted with how the road was longer and he played more minutes. The tougher road is different than longer road. For example, boxing. Fighting some guy is different than just cardio exercise. Fighting takes more energy out of you. Social media argument, did Jordan not faces gambling, father passing, and media scrutiny? Of course he did!

The bulls, celtics, lakers, or pistons would beat cabs easy... he has 7 finals because the east is weak.. I remember Jordan winning a game with a flu, James be flopping son hard...

LeBron cried because Brendan Haywood touched him up ...

yes the game has changed, they made it less physical, softer fouls are called often. Defense where to start, you need heart to play defense, players these days charges are a thing of the past. For me the thing that stands out between these two is that Jordan had that killer instinct at both ends of the court. Thats why they won there rings without going to game 7 each time, and no its not by coincidence, thats just how good they were as a team with MJ as the leader. He was the first global superstar basketball player who took the game to a whole new level.

Colin should just change his name to LeBron Brady. He can't have an unbiased conversation when it comes to those 2.

Lebron is tougher because hes played more minutes? the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Remember Lebron is the guy who claimed to be "tackled" by Kirk hinrich and got carried off the court with cramps. Also that show he put in a couple of games ago where got tapped on the neck was comical. He's great but he's not as tough as Jordan

Michael Jordan didn't take 4 steps and flop. He didn't cry everytime the ref called an obvious foul on him. come on yall are some industry puppets. $$$$ get a new topic

Collin wants to get a room with Lebron!!😂😂

Why are ppl even comparing Lebron to MJ???? Lebron isn't even better than Kobe

Whitlock got destroyed.

This debate is simple... minutes played.... equally... who accomplished more?

One thing that needs to be made clear about Cowherd's used car/odometer argument is that even if Lebron is a "car" with more mileage, he was a car that for the most part ran on perfectly smooth & ashpalted roadways, whereas Jordan was a car that went through off-road rocky paths and had to go through boulders to climb up mountains. It makes all the difference that their paths, eras & rules are not the same. It was a more physically punishing era, & great players then received a lot of abuse(which, naturally makes one tougher). Can you imagine NFL players having to play an 82 game season, or more than 1 game a week? Exaggeration, yes...but it was pretty close. So yes, JORDAN WAS TOUGHER.And that's why the NBA made rule changes, because when the great ones all retired, nobody could score anymore!! Making the game less entertaining for the public in the NBA executive's eyes (TV ratings). It was much harder to win championships then in succession (& he won 6!!). You can argue all you want about Lebron having better all-around numbers, but Jordan was clearly the Greatest LEADER & WINNER ever. He did everything his teams needed him to do to win and that's why they won so much. Lebron apparently does not, and that's why he's lost so much.

MJ is the GOAT! and is definitely tougher than LBJ. Physically and mentally!!!!

Who remembers the end of game 7 when Lebron got hacked by Draymond Green and fell hard and grabbed his wrist and you seen he was hurt..................................... THAT HAPPENED EVERY TIME MJ WENT TO THE HOLE AGAINST THE BAD BOYS!!!!!!!

"I'm finesse all the way" - Colin. Yet he criticized Dirk and Curry for being finesse players..

"I'm finesse all the way, and proud of it" - Colin Remember when he was ripping Dirk for being a "finesse player"? Smh

People act like LeBron didn't play in the early 2000s, like he just started in 2010. He played with Kobe, Shaq, KG, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, T-Mac, ,Dwayne Wade, etc. If LeBron got it easy and is so soft how come neither of the people he played with are called the same things he is?

So Lebron has played 7 more games and 1173 more minutes than Mj but Mj has 6 final appearances , 6 rings and 6 finals MVP's compared to Lebron 7 finals appearances 3 rings with 3 MVP's. Whats better ? Not to mention in 2 of the finals Lebron loss , the man that was covering him received MVP of the finals

I don't know when this was ever a debate, lol

Michael Jordan was DOMINANT. He didn't let another player score 32 on him in the finals per game (KD), or his opponent get finals MVP (Kawhi), or 2 other players outplay him in the finals (Wade and Dirk) etc etc. As a matter of fact, other than his 95 rusty comback serious against Orlando, he never let a single player outshine him in a series. Here are a few of many stats to show you just how dominant he was - Michael Jordan has 5 of the 7 top playoff series scoring averages of all time and 6 of the top 10. Lebron doesn't have one in the top 10. Kobe doesn't. Wilt doesn't even have one. He averaged over 40 PPG in 5 different playoff series. That's insane. His top 6 playoff series averages are 45.2, 45, 43.7, 43., and 41 respectively, the last being in the finals. Michael Jordan was 2nd leading player all time in steals, DPOY award, 6th all time guard in rebounds (Saying LBJ is a better rebounder is ridiculous, he plays forward! of course he grabs more boards!). Highest scoring average, and postseason scoring averages of all time. Michael Jordan has more Post-Season Records than Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Kobe and Lebron Combined. Jordan holds a whopping 42 NBA Playoff Records. To put that in prospective, this is how he measures up to other All Time Players: Number of Playoff Records: Michael Jordan - 42 Bill Russell - 15 Wilt Chamberlain - 13 Lebron James - 6 Kareem Abdul Jabaar - 5 Kobe Bryant - 5 Jordan holds the Highest career PER average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Efficiency rating average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Gamescore average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest career Winshares average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan holds the Highest MVP shares average in NBA regular season, post season and NBA Finals history. Jordan is the only player to lead the league in Scoring and Win Defensive player of the Year a season. Jordan is the only player to Win a championship, scoring title and steals title in the same season.

sometimes LeBron is tough & sometimes he's a crybaby lol but what can you do about it

If players like LeBron and boogie could be as physical as they were back then & not getting charge calls every 2 seconds they would be dominating even more

The problem with this discussion is that they don't set the definition of how toughness should be measured. Minutes alone does not define toughness.

4 guys having a heated debate, and still having respect for each other...who knew?...

LeBron was in a league with Kobe, Shaq, Garnet, and Duncan

Can we stop comparing Lebron to Jordan? They're two different players with 2 different playing styles. Lebron's pass first, run the team guy. Jordan is a scoring machine. You get the one you're team needs. The fact alone that Lebron is pass first and is the only player in the nba and one of the only players ever to even get compared to Jordan, the greatest scorer in nba history, should tell people that don't have a clue to get one.

The debate will never end? It should have never started.

He said Dennis Rodman need some hot water🤣🤣🤣🤣

So let's see lebron has faced Nash, Dirk, Duncan, cp3, Kobe, curry , KD, Allen, garnet, pierce, and many more all in their primes . That's tough man

talk when lebron gets his second three peat, before dont dare to compare this two

If media starts comparisments we have to buy it.... If Rodman makes a statement they suddenly can't compare them...

These guys need to stop it... The only reason Denis said this was because Lebron has been crying in a league that's way weaker than the 80s and 90s... Even today's centers are smaller in a way

The better question is would Lebron James gone to 6-7 straight finals playing in Jordan's era??? Dennis Rodman is right Jordan was clearly physically and mentally tougher than Lebron.

Man, Whitlock does not sound very smart today.

Eddie House has a really lucid point. No point in comparing the two...

I agree with the degree of difficulty since its the only option to compare two players in different eras. For example if two examinees took two different exams and all got a perfect score, then the only way to find out whos better is to compare which exam is more difficult.

In the playoffs Lebron's faced Tim Duncan (+kawhi, parker, and ginobili) the Celtics big 3, prime Derrick Rose (when he was on track to being an all-timer), an all-time great indiana defense, Durant + Westbrook + Harden + Ibaka, and one of the greatest teams of all time in the warriors - and Jason Whitlock wants to say he hasn't faced challenges like Bird or the Bad Boys, or Magic (who when Michael played him was old and washed-up).

kobe is the toughest of them all

"Homeboy Carter" you know better. Today's game is like a tennis match!

Colin’s car metaphor was so insanely stupid and I wonder why nobody calls him out. Buying a car with 100k km in a country with good road system is not the same as buying a car with 100k km in a country were the roads are full of bumps and holes. Also I can sell you a car that has 50k km but its 35 years old, the engine might be ok but you might need to throw the rest of the car away in a couple of years... My point is that it’s totally different playing 82 games in a season while you might get hacked 4-5 times in a season and playing a season when you get hacked 4-5 times a game

LeFlop would be crying and flopping all the time if he played in the Jordan Era.

I hope Lebron answer's to Rodman lol He is gonna slay Rodman lol

Did that man say more cardio 😂😂😂😂

Eddie House made the point. Two different dudes different eras. They do different things to affect the game. And what they did for their teams was great.

is that the last resort for Jordan lovers now? debating who was "tougher"? who got more "beat up"? really?

I don't think people understand how the human body works. We adapt to the certain situations we are in. If Lebron was playing in the 80s or 90s he would be more physical bc that was required during the time. It would be the same for bird and Jordan if they played during Lebrons time. They wouldn't be near as physical bc they would rack up fouls. I don't understand why people don't get this.

both cars have the same mileage... but the difference is their driving conditions, which car drove toughest 🤔🤔🤔

I hate it when, people like Collin have never played the game but got all the answers. What's sad is others who never played believe what their saying. Both guys are good period...Labron will be compared to someone else 10 years from now. This conversation is repeated every 10 to 20 years.

never ending debate mj vs LeBron? that debate ended in 2011 finals...we're waiting on another guy now to try to compare to mj. .

how can anybody say jordan had a tougher path???? lebrons best teamates in first 7 was larry hughes or ilgauskas, ever heard of them?? jordans was scottie. jordan got scottie in his 4th year. imagine lebron getting hall of fame player in 4th year in the league

30 minutes played in 80s or 90s is like two games today “ if he comes in the lane put a elbow on em and knock em down” Rick McHorn