I saw Michael race once at Melbourne. We were sitting 150m from the corner, and every driver, besides Michael was downshifting and braking. Michael pulled another gear and braked at 50. It was absolutely insane to see the Faz belting past and going faster before braking. And he was dominant. He could have braked at the same points as every other driver, but he was driving exactly the same, lap in, lap out, flat knacker and braking at 50m. I had an amazing experience at the drivers parade where I was near the track and held up 5 fingers and pointed at Michael, as, going into the season he was 4 times world champion, I was so confident in him winning I held up my 5 fingers. Michael god damn saw me, pointed at me, thumbs up and nodded at me. I was absolutely blown away. I remember watching the race he took the 5th title on and it was a really moving experience for me, that such a great, dominant man saw me, understood what I meant, and acknowledged it, and did what I had, and a lot of other people, had tipped him to do, and won that years title. Keep Fighting, Michael.
Please hold those memories tight to your heart. That's what Michael needs now, to see how he affected people's lives, how he made us feel and thrill in front of the television with every move he made in that car. I envy you for having such awesome memories!!
Hola me paso algo similar, fui a ver en el 98 en buenos aires , estaba en la curva de áscari a pocos metros de la pista y con mis binoculares podia ver el movimiento de las manos de los pilotos , hackinen y coulthar en mercedes lo tenian facil se pegaban a la curva de manera comoda shumy es como serruchara con sus manos , corrigiendo continuamente la trayectoria pues los mercedes tenian mucha carga aerodinámica ya que les sobraba potencia en cambio ferrari adolecia de esa potencia y lo compensaba con cero carga aerodinamica , solo shumy podia tener el coche dentro de la pista y en los registros los mercedes entraban a esa curva a 260 km/h y salian a 240 , schumy llegaba a 240km/h pero salia a 270 es decir seguia acelerando en la curva y alli les gano la carrera un autentico monstruo el iba un 30 % mas rapido que su propio auto nunca habra otro igual , abrazo y saludos
@@omarspilj5374 I've been researching michael's riding style. He didn't take his foot completely off the accelerator pedal. Another driver who took corners at high speed was ayrton senna. He would pump the accelerator pedal mid-corner to get the turbo to fill up, as in those days, the turbo had a delay.
We need a helicopter camera back in F1 But we need it without stabilizers. I don't want to see an image as though I am on the balcony. I want the tremor and the sense of speed that you only get from the shaky camera of a helicopter.
As far as I can see, Schumacher brought driving up to a new, contemporary level. Senna was another benchmark back in the 80s but it was on bravery, commitment side of driving. Schumacher introduced scientific precision into driving which was not seen before.
@Bigger Issues Herbert confortably beat Hakkinen on qualifyings. Something Senna could not do. Also, Senna outqualified him in 94 only because he had 100hp in advantage (v10 vs v8)
@@worldinimages842 Fanboy Hakkinen got outqualified by Senna in Japan and Australia and only outqualified him in because of a faulty camshaft in Portugal. And no the Ford V8 had only 40 less BHP
Early 90s Michael clobbered his teammates in qualifying. Between South Africa 1992 and Hungary 1995, he out qualified them in every single race. The run only ended in Spa when he got caught out by the weather and qualified 16th while Herbert qualified 4th. Didn't matter to Michael, he still went and won the race.
I think it was Prost who said Senna was dangerous because he took unnecessary risks safe in the knowledge that God would look after him. Schumacher was something else. As Braun said, he would hold normal conversations during the race asking about other drivers etc as if he wasn't driving a F1 car on the edge. He was doing it mostly subconsciously leaving his mind free to think about other things. Just incredible really.
+PsyMongazoid Schumi's fitness level was unprecedented and allowed him to use his 'head' more effectively. In his time at Ferrari; Schumacher's daily fitness regimen consisted 3 daily workouts, 5 hours in total.
Bro his entire right leg was broken it was so bad that they considered amputating his leg. He couldnt brake hard enough due to the injury which cost him significant lap time and even then he won races and scored podiums and he won Le Mans.
And for good reason. Senna proved why he's a legend several times. But, IMHO, people really sleep on Schumacher...They fail to realize that Schumacher has dominated in a Senna-esque manner several times. He'd get out on track, and, like a robot programmed to repeat 2+2=5 over and over again, would clip off perfect laps for 20-30 laps at a time...Which was no small feat in the un-driveable monsters we called F1 CARS of schumi's day.
@@srxt6758 Wrong Put them in equal cars and senna would domnate. Senna was better at qualifying. Schumacher had ferrari all for himself and the cars were built around him. Even his teammates had to let him win. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DQXjH8mfPJI.html
Micheal had a scientific mindset, he analysed everything from the drivers to the team itself to find every bit of time he could even if it meant dragging a failing team back to being in glory
It all comes down to feel. He had a better feel for the car and the track. It's a bit like math. Once you get the feel for what you're doing it becomes much easier.
I think it's probably fair to say all the drivers like that Senna, Schumacher, Clark, they all had that feeling of a limit almost genetically embedded, almost like it's something mystical that just makes them that good.
I remember being so happy when Schumacher went to Ferrari. He was always my favourite driver and Ferrari my favourite manufacturer. I remember being bitterly disappointed when he broke his leg and was out of contention, but that feeling when he finally won the driver's championship at Ferrari was unbelievable. I watched him win a lot more (in the middle of the night here) and never got sick of it. When he retired, I stopped watching F1 completely. The awe and wonder had gone. Once they dumped the engines and stuffed around with the rules as well F1 died.
If you really want to assess Schumachers natural given talent, you just have to look at his last 3 years in Mercedes. Understanding the fact, how hard it is to end a career with 36 years of age on top of a Champions League level, being retired, having a difficult motorcycle injury and then come back into Formula 1 years later (older than 40!! imagine that) with changed rules and EXTREMLY limited opportunities of testing the new cars and it's tires, that changed so much during the years.... ... and still being able to reach the same level as Nico Rosberg in the last of these 3 seasons (who a few years later defeated Lewis Hamilton, who is one of his generation!) for me was just mindblowing!! Those who really watched the 2012 season, know what I mean and those who remember the Nigel Mansell's "comeback" with over 40 years old (also a great driver!...also in the Indicar Series!) know even more how to evaluate the 2012 season. Imagine Schumacher being 25 oder 30.... and even refueling being allowed again...
Stefunky Punky Forget the refueling...Schumacher managed, in the races both he and Rosberg were able to finish, to finish ahead more times than his much younger teammate could.
In the races Schumacher and Rosberg both finished Schumacher was ahead around 70% of the time actually. If they had tyre rules that fit his driving style more at that time he could have been even more impressing. Not to mention he helped bring Mercedes at the top
@@TheKestevon he was never there to win. He was a test bunny and he knew it. Great for promotion, got there to develop the mercedes car and got his last podium as hurrah for the sport. And look where Mercedes is now. That success is partially down to him as Toto Wolff admitted.
@@anthonyiuculano6002 I hate Nico rosberg because he is so arrogant, i also hate Nico fanboy too. He is far below Michael but those people don't want to admit it, the reason why Nico can match Michael in few races is because Michael is so old at that times but not only his ages reducing his skills but also the accident he got in 2009 which cause him got serious neck injury, also Michael got so many unlucky moments like when someone crashing into him. Michael in his prime will absolutely destroy Nico, at that times Michael fighting with previous F1 legend like Senna and Prost but he able to match them with inferior car. Even Ross Brawn said there simply no one like him.
He is the Fastest and has the most Feeling for the Car a Person has ever had and will ever have .. Nobody got that was he has . Doenst mean that there are many other very good Race Drivers, and one of the Best we know was Senna .. BUT .. nobody will be Like him , ever in this .
Schumi, you're still THE one. I've missed you so much ! The grief is over, bring on next season... You're a phenix, I know that, so I am just waiting for you to rise again !
Thanks for sharing this elkayem. Great video. I wish these tests could be made now and compare drivers like Schumi, Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton, perhaps Montoya...
i love Senna because it was actually fun to see him race. He's like the brave hero of F1..BUT, when comes to stats, numbers and perfection, Schumacher is the man! That ability to push 110% for the ENTIRE race is amazing!
I think we can all agree that every racer was the best when in the peak of their career. No one can possibly compare, or say who's better. Some might say Shumacher was best, some say Senna. In the end, they will all be remembered as heroes. Heroes that fought mostly against themselves than against each other.
Lol technology the British invented? +MrStig69 , have seen most brits try to speak english? now I would assume they would be able to speak the language since they "invented" it but that clearly isn't the case :D ... Hill, Button, Hamilton all a bunch of whiners and blame everything in the world except themselves when things go wrong...
Eugene Naidoo excuse my countrymans lack of Englishness. Let me fix that. When you described Hill, Hamilton and Button, you described EVERY racing driver when something isn't right, look at Vettel, do some of Alonsos tantrums pass you by too? How about Rosberg? No offence here pal, but get off your high horse and get a grip of reality
@@EugeneNaidoo Lewis Hamilton a man of class? Hardly! A man of class is recognized when he is losing.....not when he is winning because of the lack of competition. There hasn't been a man of class since Mika Hakkinen, Schumaher, Damon Hill and the rest of that generation left the sport. The only man that could be called one is Raiconen and more recently Leclerc.
1:14 I think Johnny is a little bit mistaken talking about Senna's throttle control. In the turbo era, Senna was the only driver to perfect the way to keep the turbo spun up, which was necessary to reduce turbo lag. It's a little be silly to compare that throttle control using a turbo to a normally aspirated engine.
But Senna does that with naturally aspirated road cars as well. See Senna's footwork in the NSX in Suzuka. But to be honest, I'm not sure if there is any correlation between the 2, because F1 cars and road cars are totally different in terms of power and grip.
12x12surface They really aren't that different. The limit of grip is the limit of grip. When you're at the limit it makes little difference how powerful the car is or where it derives its grip from. All cars are basically just 4 rubber contact patches touching pavement.
He is NOT mistaken, it's a fact and Senna was well known for that technique. There are countless data logger recordings proving this fact. Even on youtube you can find some like here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6nEHnuoQ6wY.html I will never understand what motivates random people to spread "alternative facts". Especially when not even getting paid for it.
Indeed, schumy is the forever legend. I love him since he was in benetton. I believe in the coming years, this game will be dominated by Kimi, Fernando and Jenson.
My mans can see into the future all of em have taken a wdc. Can't say the same for today's generation Charles ain't no Schumacher and lando is yet to be seated in a car that can fight for wins.
Very well said. Michael Schumacher in F1 is like Rossi in MotoGP, both of them not only the best driver on their own sport but also Michael is the icon of F1, Rossi too.
@supacubano10 It was a type of launch control not TC. Benetton admitted the software had never been deleted from the ECU because it was an integrated part of the engines mapping. The only way to disable it was to not fit the sensor suit required for to feedback to the ECU. An active sensor suit was never found on the car over race weekends hence the FIA dropped the complaint
Great video! by the way nearly same style as Räikkönen, carrying insane speed through corners, and that demands really sharp front end, responsive car,specific setups and testing helps....and here you read all day that kimi is overrated...give Schumacher those crap 2014-2015 I bet he would struggle too. Hope 2017 will finally bring back f1 to what it used to be!
All one has to do is look at his Bennaton or Ferrari. They were both inferior cars. Ferrari had not won in years, until Shuey came. Also if you look at his teammates, he usually out qualifies them by a full second sometime. It's usually Shuey poll, and his teammate 4th or 5th. Later on the Ferrari got very quick, but that was also his doing, with his input on the car.Even his comeback he was qualifying fast.
This video can be summed up with one of my favorite quotes "Loose is fast, and on the edge you're out of control." Control is lacking, but speed certainly is not.
So what they are saying is that Michael uses the brakes and the gas at the same time by dragging the brake with his left foot but staying on the throttle???
It seems like with his driving style he's never fully off throttle, even during heavy braking at corner entry. Being on the throttle a little bit during heavy braking minimizes the weight transfer to the front wheels, which then minimizes understeer. This way he can brake later and carry more speed into the corner. Here is a more detailed description of Schumacher's driving style. Pretty amazing. teamslow.aitchison.org/viewtopic.php?t=4807&highlight=schumacher
In the telemetry example, no braking was needed for that corner, so to slow down, all the drivers had to do was lift. He kept on the power through the the corner, rather than the usual coast to the apex and then accelerate after the apex.
MBr That's true for Bridge Corner on Silverstone, but what Brandon assumed about Schumi's driving style was actually correct. Looks like the site took down the article from F1 Magazine that I previously posted, but here are the graphics from that article: sites.google.com/site/cirospictures/SchumacherVsBarrichello.jpg sites.google.com/site/cirospictures/SchumacherBarrichelloTelemetry.jpg My comment about Schumi never lifting completely off the throttle when braking into a corner to reduce understeer and increase turn in speed was actually part of the article.
surewin Wow, good to know. And I wish I could read the links you posted, but I can't get them to open :/. Anyways, this is actually very common in oval racing. A lot of the fastest guys in NASCAR, Jeff Gordon in particular, are known to have mastered this form of "trail braking" over the years. It's incredibly difficult to consistently get right, but it is very rewarding on the high speed sweepers.
Brandon Ryan I managed to find the graphics from the article (posted above). Very interesting stuff! I really wished I saved the whole article now that I can't find it. :(
"god foot" would be a bit more appropriate. LOL. love the ID reference, though. Schumacher is an amazing driver. i see people are arguing about him and Senna. both awesome in their own time and i've enjoyed watching highlights of both.
Mr18000rpm No, he didn't find anything because he's dead. The unprovoked swipes at Senna in a Schumacher video are just... well obvious fanboyistic wank.
Mr18000rpm Well I see no reason to bring Senna up when discussing a feel for the limit. Its not like Schumacher never crashed, Senna was just unfortunate enough to have lost the lottery on where bits of car go when one does crash. Your unprovoked comment could only serve to arouse the sycophants so one has to wonder why you'd say something whose only content serves to compare the two most commonly used props in wars between F1 fan boys.
"very good feel of the limit" that WAS his most important skill that made him 7 times champion. But (i think) he lost it during his accident in 2009. That injury was more serious. He told it was just a normal "training slip" but he hurt his neck and his wrist. The doctor told that he damaged his ganglions too, and (i think) it that was responsible for his most importatn skill, and he simply lost it. He now feels the limit just like the other drivers
Michael you are the greatest no Matter what. This guys now win with DRS NOW with a fastest car which is absolutely nonsense and there were fewer races in a season along with top 6 getting points. That is all enough to make you the Greatest pilot 👍
Michael Schumacher still better than Hamilton. Because why? let Hamilton drive shitty car and develop that weak team like Michael did with Benneton, Ferrari and even Mercedes when they are far behind top competition. Until it doesn't happen then i will still said Hamilton is still Rookie compared to Legend Schumacher himself. Even Toto and Ex Mercedes engineer himself "Ross Brawn" said it was Michael who helps Mercedes develop the car better and become best team because he know the feeling of car better than anyone else, he is engineer too who know what is wrong with the car in engineer language which is far important for car development, in his era almost no driver have mechanics background like Michael. Don't forget, Hamilton win is in part of Michael too. This is why i never agree with those people who said Hamilton is the greatest of all. Records means to be broken but Michael Schumacher will forever remain as the greatest of all time ! #keepfightingmichael
F1 when Michael Schumacher still racing in Benetton and Ferrari : 70 laps, less reliable engine, no DRS, no ERS, car less stable than today F1 car, he even racing with manual clutch with H gear shift paterns, race in full wet conditions, has very tight competition because there are 3 team with 6 drivers fighting for the titles but still Michael able to get 7x WDC despite of being unlucky sometimes, causing him lose 3 WDC titles, also he didn't get best car all the times and even he got 2x WDC with midfield car like Benneton. All of those reasons is why Michael is the GOAT of F1, not fraud fake 7x WDC who are whinning spoiled arrogant kid who are lucky too aka Hamilton and who need fastest car and best team to win, need team order to win for many times (i can't even count how many times Bottas got team order to let Hamilton win), Hamilton need maFIA helps to win and even he still lose WDC just like in 2021 which is really pathetic. Hamilton is not legend, he is overrated fraud british driver. Fake championship !
Stupid ppl saying Senna is better the Schumy xD In a whole different league? Dont make me laugh man pleas. Its like saying my god is better then your god. Would like to see the difference in telemetry Senna vs Schumy. I think all the Senna fanboys would be suprised. Let the trolling begin.
I've said this many times, I could honestly care less who is better as a driver... Thing that I absolutely hate the most is that due to the unfortunate circumstances of Senna's accident, we were almost robbed of what would have been an incredible era for Formula One with Senna and Schumacher going head-to-head for probably at least the next five years. It would have really improved in era where Schumacher really had nobody to equal him.
I believe Schumacher is still the best driver around. The lag in speed is just the result of the smaller frontwheels, which is completly against his driving style and probably gives other pilots an advantage. And if you look back to 1994, if Senna wouldn't have died, Schumacher would have a 30 point lead after only three races. I don't see why he shouldn't have gone for championship that year. And last but not least, he didn't always have the best car- think back of 94, 95, 00 or 03...
Well i race for 12 years, i do retro formula 1 driving job as well. Senna was the better driver as reca/tyre driver, Shumacher always works in test, he always dependet on the car there is no place for comparing this two because in the end both are heroes from different era's. This is the sama as comparing Fagio and Nikki Lauda
No wonder I find watching Michael's cornering is like fast forwarded video when comparing to other drivers. I'm going to miss the days when he was in F1.
@craigg1981 No competition in 2000? I guess Hakkinen didn't exist after all? What makes him great? let's see he took an ailing Ferrari team, built the team up and look at them now, he's one of the few drivers that could inspire an entire team. And so you're saying someone who knows figures about a driver is less of a fan, yeh that seems logical to me =/ If you think he was so average who would you say are some of the best of the best (I'm expecting Prost and Senna as they need no explaining)
awesome!!! :D Schumi, you are still the greatest of all time!! hopefully his car will be more driveable next season so he can race against vettel, hamilton, alonso & so on for results^^
That's what I call a legend. Senna was a great guy, loved around the world because he was a very kind human being, and considered as a legend because of his dramatic racing death, but you can't consider him as the greatest sportsman of all time.
@waterfeelsgood Agree because the car of Mercedes was developed using datas of last year's so many things are developed for Button's driving style, which are at the opposite of Schumacher's prefered settings. I mean i don't say a new thing if i say in F1 in many situations we have to project a brand new car if we want to change something. So i wait the next season already, too.
he was like a robot-driver because he didn´t want to show emotions and stay focused on his career... no matter what some other f1-fans might say, he was the absolutly best in what he was doing, i just hope he will keep that title of the best driver....
@hunt2727 (continuing) It's strange how Schumacher struggled in Donington while even Barrichello with his poor Jordan overtook him and was faster than him on the wet. Michael was extremely quick indeed, but he was only quick when he had conditions that favored him (a car suited for him, tires, managers telling him what to do and when to stop). Senna was fast in any conditions.
How interesting: Senna and Schumacher seem to have mastered something of the same staccato/progressive throttle technique for cornering, which gives them a speed advantage in corners, where it all counts especially when overtaking. Back when cars had more power, a wider, more stable wheelbase and electronic aids were less prevalent (never mind active suspension in the early 90s) such delicate throttle control was key to not lose the car.
This video was made long time ago , it gives a clear understanding of why Schumacher has so many problems with F1 2010 cars , his driving style in early 90's was perfect for F1 of the past , the telemetry at 3:45 gives us the ultimate key , steering corrections in the corner was a + back then , it's ironic to think that what made him ahead of others , is now an handicap with more technologies and electronic for a driving style... Herbert driving style was more adapted for today's cars
That steering wheel is the one I modified for Michael, Ser.#159/F1-001, on 5/22/95. I shipped it to him for the Monaco race...which he won. His resulting relaxed grip on the wheel improved the signal-to-noise ratio on the steering feedback signal (essentially the steering resistance). This allowed him to make those small adjustments you see at 3:43 that are invisible to his teammate Johnny Herbert who incidentally, laughed at Michael when he traced his hands before faxing me the tracings...look who's laughing now, right? I got into this a bit more and brought the wheel with me when I spoke at a steering conference in Berlin...videos can be seen here: www.SteeringWheelTechnology.com
That's a fascinating little insight that - thanks for sharing! The point you raise regarding his relaxed grip resonates strongly - I remember in some races back in the 00s during his Ferrari heydey, the broadcasters would fit a camera just behind the steering wheel just above his knuckles and you could see clearly just how loose his grip on the steering wheel was. Lovely little story on how he traced his hands as well - it must have been an honour to work for Schumacher and your story is a keen reminder of just how strong his attention to detail and clarity was.
If you ask Ross Braun, who was the driver who gave the best technical feedback that he's every worked with, it was Schui. And as far as Senna goes, did he not insist on getting Prost's set up in McLaren?
to be exact: dr. Johannes Peil said: he damaged his 7th vertebra in his neck, and his brainpan, and one of the 2 most important veins (which brings the blood to his brain) was injured too. If he hadnt had extraordinary muscles in his neck (thanks to his 15 yrs in F1) he had died in that accident. Before he felt "the limit" as a really wide sofa, but now he feels it like a pinhead like all the others do. It cant be helped
Then he asked Schumacher if there is a problem with the car and he said in fast corners over bumps the car has aero problems. You have to correct that via steering otherwise you go off. All written in Zielgerade
One of the techniques he used was slapping on the throttle whilst braking. That ensured a very high acceleration out of the corners as the engine rev is higher with this technique. This is how I race as well, inherited from my idol Schumacher
Remember Hungary 1998, France 2004 etc etc...And he was very helpful with developing of the car, but that was Senna too. Still I can´t get rid of the flavour of nostalgia in one´s mind, when he says Senna was for sure the greatest...
@WorthingRFU he never asked his team mates to go into the wall like they did for alonso in singapore. he pushed the rules to the limit, exactly like hamilton does now or like senna did. that's what a great champion does I think.
@Charkow1943 continuing: So Schumacher could never know about something so damn obvious to the driver (as the software and the fuel rig) but Senna off course knew about something that is hidden under the car's chassi. Nice dude... About Mônaco, in 1985: Peter Warr send Senna to the track with old tires. Senna returned to the pits and said "please don't tell me to do this again. I don't wanna win like that". Peter Warr himself told this story many times (including some biographies).
No hay palabras que describan la extraodinaria maestria de este hombre a la hora de llevar un coche de F1 al limite, cuando veo sus lecciones bajo la lluvia palidesco solo de pensar lo que era capaz de hacer. Dejo un profundo vacío que creo ningun otro piloto llenará.
What surprises me is that Damon Hill of all people say he is a hell of a driver. I like Schumacher despite racing from his heart in dire situations involving him.
@Charkow1943 Not a Schumacher fan but one can not deny that no driver has done that in the history, to contribute so heavily to team's rise. He was a cornerstone of the whole successful Ferrari idea.
The Feedback a driver gives to the engineers is important. That is what makes Schumacher important, he can communicate with the engineers. Räikkönen for example is knowing nothing about that.
Both Senna and Schumacher are complete drivers. Both ate, drank and slept racing. There is no point trying to pick the better of two. If one tries that, it would be biased in most of the cases.
Poor Krusty, nothing clever to say ? My wife is laughing to death too !!! Soooooooo funny, keep on making us laugh like this, YOU4RE THE BEST CLOWN ON RU-vid !! I vote for you !!
