Michael Shannon Didn't Understand his return to The Flash 

All sane people and actors: this doesn't make any sense Modern hollywood: it's a multiverse

Would’ve been simpler to just have told him it’s time travel.

Well old people didn't understand those kind of shit stuffs like that. It's normal

@@DarkEtherealRhythmI mean if you’re gonna play comic characters you should understand the world they come from. This stuff is very normal for comic book characters.

@@HuyGaming96Quantum physics have been around for a while buddy. Young people often don’t understand it, just the movie version of it.

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That's because HE GANGSTER!

Like that has any relevance.

​@@alphanerd7221hey opinions on Snyder aside you gotta respect the man checking with him before taking the role. He wanted to make sure this was something the original director would be alright with and preserve his artistic vision as much as possible

@@mayohyundai1152 I don't. That he thinks Snyder has any role over it at all shows his disdain for and ignorance of the material.

That long? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ouch!

There were 4 of us at the theater a week after it opened.

@@eyeheartsushi2212theater was full a week after it opened for me. Crowd cheered. We had fun.

@@snieves4 I liked the movie a lot

Best ever imo.

He was the only great villain in the Snyder movies.

@@americasteam2112 ya that's very fair. The snyderverse didn't get to develop any of their villains let alone most characters.

@@deathstalker2099I WILL FIND HIM!

@@suhaib8464 oh Yeah.... i felt that too..... Epic moment

Or rather, a lack of the actor’s understanding of the material he’s involved with. It’s not that difficult to understand: Yes, Zod died at the Man of Steel. This story posits what might happen if hadn’t died and there was no Superman to stop him. Not difficult at all. Personally, I think it’s just tired pretentiousness that seems to mark the genre as “unimportant” and “not real drama,” but what do I know.

​@@Pogol13and your ability to understand he's talking before he heardvthe project, which he then probably learned of alternate timelines. Lol you f'ing people are ridiculous

@@Pogol13What? Yeah you’re definitely thinking way too much. If he thought the genre was “unimportant” why would he waste a year of his life giving one of his best performances in MOS? It’s pretty simple, he’s an older guy. Probably not that into comics so he didn’t know what the multiverse was. Doesn’t mean he thinks it’s unimportant bc he wouldn’t have put the effort into Zod if he felt that way. Could’ve just took his money and gave a generic performance like plenty of other actors have done.

This guy feels good about himself

@@Pogol13 Shut up

Facts. And you actually believe him. And he did indeed find him. Lara’s look…she was genuinely worried. Homeboy was being sent into the Phantom Zone, but he still shook her.

I mean if they were all gonna die in a day why didnt they just leave him on the planet to die with them

​@@lightdarksoul2097iirc they still didn't believe the planet would explode when they sent Zod away.

That line is so epic to me.

So good!!!

No it's not... it's very reasonable response. Because, you know, his character is supposed to be DEAD. You don't know what an 'OG Response' is, do you? 😅

@@tommiepattonkendrickiii1617 contextually he means, “This guy didn’t snatch up work, instead he disrespected them saying ‘Y’all don’t even understand how continuity works. Why would I do this?’” That’s the very definition of a gangster response.

Modern comic book world: "Nobody stays dead". Most annoying nonsense ever becuse there is no finality, no high stakes, no real consequences to doing this dangerous job. He was a great Zod to me, Mike Shannon and Terrence Stamp are hard Zods to top.

​@@cfgodwell 'modern'? Sorry but it's not even remotely a recent thing.

@@tommiepattonkendrickiii1617 I don't think you know what OG means, fuckin weirdo.

Meanwhile Snyder is happy as a pig in shit making Rebel Moon and could probably give af about DC anymore in any capacity.

@@robert04872 they screwed him over and changed his vision

​@@robert04872That's not true

@@robert04872Just because he’s making another movie doesn’t mean he doesn’t give a shit about DC. What happened with the 2017 cut of Justice League is that Zack’s daughter committed suicide and he stepped down from the film. WB gave Joss Whedon the ability to do reshoots and he reshot a lot of the film and gave it a much lighter feel which didn’t align with Snyder’s original vision. Zack Snyder’s Justice League was only about 3-4 years ago, so it’s not like he’s completely shut out DC from his life.

@@nickavenoso7851 Yeah WB gave Josh Fucking Whedon the wheels, the man cant do movies and he should be called Josh WEEDon instead.

He didnt do it for free 😂😂😂

The fact that he didn’t do it for free shows he has more integrity by speaking up like this. It’s like how Anne Rice started out criticizing Tom Cruise’s role as the vampire Lestat in “Interview With A Vampire”, but then backpedaled on her opinion once a lot of money was on the line. “The Flash” was supposed to be a major train wreck and Ezra Miller going over the edge adding insult to injury. It’d be one thing if it was just that Ezra Miller was a bad person and the movie was at least “okay”. But the movie also had to suck. You’re also going to probably have more actors like Michael Keaton say stuff like this in the end because it’s not like any of the actors or the studio are making any residuals off of the movie. It’d be the same thing as a few celebrities being asked to volunteer for a school play in Podunk, Ohio and perform for the elementary/middle-school with gas or plane tickets on the school’s dime and said after the performance, “Yeah, that was kind of lame; but it was a job.” Anyway, the current holders of the IP and the marketers and advertisers and producers all decided to wipe their butts with money they’re not going to get back now. I have a feeling the story of the filming and release will make a really hilarious book one day!

Sounds more like an old man who no longer cares about his roles

I love how he says I don't know what that means. Idk why but that made me giggle. Just seeing someone in today's age saying I dunno is refreshing.

U say “most actors” but really I say the same about most people in general

You know you have a great movie when the villain is brilliant 😎

Yeah, it still baffles me how WB constantly were meddling with the b/s and justice league and as a result they were trash while directors cut was pretty solid And both movies failed at box office And they proceed to do what they’re doing Wtf, it’s like these guys don’t even want to earn money?

@@Afdog I don’t know but I’m not pumped about what James Gunn is gonna do. They want colorful like Marvel and Snyder wasn’t doing that. That’s why they hated Snyder.

@@viperrecords3288 well it’s still on them to wanting something colorful and inviting Snyder It’s like wanting to make a horror and inviting Wes Anderson and then being genuinely surprised it’s kinda cheerful and not really scary lol

@@Afdog No totally it’s just these fucking assholes at WB just want to sell cups at McDonald’s and shit. They’re not thinking about making good movies. DC isn’t marvel it’s darker. It’s always been darker and they don’t want that. That’s why that new blue beetle movie is so colorful.

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"I WILL NOT EAT ONE IOTA OF SHIT" gets me everytime 😂

Remember 8 mile also. I was surprised how many films he shows up

He is good.

Watch The Iceman. Disturbingly good.

An actor who doesn't understand fan service?

Why is not giving a shit fun to you? Maybe that is why a movie fails. Because the artists don't give a shit.

​​@@magicmike7198ecause it was a crap idea and he knew it. The arc was over in man of steel. The flash is a flop there is too much fan service and the whole thing is a jumbled mess. Shannon could see it was a bad idea from a mile away thats why he doesnt care for it

@@magicmike7198 the movie failed because everyone who saw this coming from a mile away was right. It's a piece of feminist dogsh1t

​@magicmike7198 ur gonna literally blame the movies failure of Shannon and not Ezra,,,, clown shoes

@@ObliqueVisualsNz Your disillusioned vision of things is understandable but sad all the same. I too tend to believe that ''the whole thing is a mess'' but not for the same reasons. But to be proud that Shannon, for example, does not give a spit and nevertheless accepts to embark on the adventure (production and promotion) and this, even after honorably asking for Zack's ''permission'', well... that doesn't say much about Shannon, does it? He doesn't seem to me to be the kind of person who embarks on a project just for the money when he doesn't care about it. I could be wrong but I rather believe that your pessimistic view of things darkens your points of view. But again, i do undestrand your jaded spirit about the whole superhero debacle.

"Zod is mild-mannered." Man of Steel Zod: I WILL fiNd hIm!!!!!!!!

​@@harleyjackson3708😭🤣🤣🤣

I saw him in NYC once. He's so fucking tall. It was late at night, and he was walking towards me, smoking a cigarette, but was very hunched over. It didn't register to me that it was him until after he left my peripheral vision and my brain went "Wtf that's General Zod!". He was wearing a white dress shirt and some jeans.

@@harleyjackson3708 we all have our moments

@@PermanentHigh that’s so cool; have some family members myself who have met/seen actors. My uncle met Wallace Shawn and said he’s like the coolest guy and is glad he got recognized and my other uncle sparred in mma with Kevin James

He'll have to make a good movie first

Loved him in Boardwalk Empire. 🤌🏼

​@@OhNoTheFaceWatch 99 Homes.

@@OhNoTheFacehe was also great in the iceman

He’s been nominated for 2 Oscar’s. Thought he deserved a 3rd for Take Shelter

Van Alden. Hell off a job in that role

I used to believe in God.....now I don't believe in anything at all.

He was absolutely incredible in The Little Drummer Girl.

Yes he was. Awesome show.

Agreed !!!

I really liked that in this Universe he just always wins against the heroes, no matter what they tried

Agreed. I'm not really familiar with his work before MoS, but I like his acting there. So much charisma for a villain.

This brothers zod was as kool as the first Brit actor who literally played zod, as well superman doesn't kill anybody!! Why change the subject matter!!

@@Pope6006like literally literally?

@@rmcqueen3285 running with your head up your ass is usually your situation!!!

Because its Zod!!!

I think he's high. He's got that "I took a bunch of pills" slurring in his voice

Admitting you don’t know something doesn’t mean you’re angry. How soft can people get?

​@@klemremy6963don't think at all

​@@BESTMOADtoo late, sis

Apparently him and Mark wahlberg are doing a movie called angry and confused.

"Finally someone who speaks English." - Tony Stark, Marvel's The Avengers

"adult" you mean a guy who grew up in a time before you didnt get your ass kicked for being a nerd? i odnt see how liking thingst an older state in life is less adult. i think people just like to feel like they are surprior becuase thats how their abusive parents wouldve wanted

@@DD-px5mj I mean “adult” as in a person with a competent grasp on spelling and grammar.

bro he really was his attitude and everything u can tell hes like u can go see it.....but I wouldn't lmao

I saw it & loved it If other opinions matter then you got 💩 for brains!

TOTAL GoT S8 vibes. The whole cast at interviews was all: BEST SEASON EVA. 😐😑

Im the 300th liker!

it wasn't that bad, calm down

That line live rent free in my head 24/7

I had a badminton tournament. I very much wanted to know every player in the draw. Man of steel hadnt been out for long. I looked at the tournaments draw online and recognised all the names except one. I asked assistant tournament director on facebook who so-and-so was and said he is new player from interstate. I for some reason replied three words 'I will find him!' then logged off.

Yeah but I bet it is difficult AF yo become his friend. I bet he has lots of acquaintances and few friends.

He’s a loser in real life.

Wasnt Barry kinda the villain too

@@lightdarksoul2097yeah, in like the last 5 minutes. 😂

the conflict of the film is not the flash vs zod, its more about barry trying to fix everything and accepting that he cant

Barry is the villain, Zod was just the barrier.

5 minutes couple hundred grand were do I sign up

Flashpoint and Spiderverse are different

Worse. The multiverse is an excuse for studios to make whatever they want regardless of consistency so they can claim “yea it’s the multiverse.”

​@@HumanB312It's some of the things that stand out in the entirety of Multiverse Slop

@@HumanB312 don't care if it's different. Stop this multiverse crap

Yeah, it's "You've seen this before, but have you seen this before my way?"

I WILL FIND HIM!!

Yeah, too bad the script ultimately doesn't do much with him.

Better then any dceu movie that came out after that.

@@Anon-_-0agreed

UHHH Costner, Crowe, Cavil... All great actors too

Which Zod was your favorite? The correct answer is "both".

Wait, you know him in real life?

You know him in real life?

Life is real?

@@AHTOtv Life is indeed real

They do say it's the quiet ones you gotta watch, for a reason. And this dude with the 4 comments to himself but fucked up and didn't switch accounts at first lol.

Nah. Look up William Friedkin.

​@HorySmokes I will good sir, I will. Because you said that, I am going to make it my top priority to check that out. I will do my best, give my all and pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States.

After 15 scripts and like ten years or whatever id given up too damn that movie was cursed

​@@lightdarksoul2097I liked it I just thought The Flash would've been portrayed better by Grant Gustin 🤷

It's weird how it usually works that way. Frank Gorshin was said to have been one of the nicest men in the world. Same with Mads Mikkelson. Nice guys who are just GREAT at playing bad guys😂

How did he humble himself?

Not really. He has no problem finding work on the screen or stage. 💁‍♂️

Why do people call everything "underrated"

@@MBOmnisliterally lmao these 16 year olds will watch pulp fiction or something and go on to talk about how “samuel jackson is the most underrated actor ever, and have you heard of this quentin tarantino guy??? he deserves more recognition”

It was the fact that Snyder thought to write Superman into that situation. Rather than giving us any other Superman story.

​@@GavinAeiltsforfun I agree with the neck snap. If not, you get into this Batman/Joker thing where you stop him until he does it again, causing even more havoc. Could he have just flown away with Zod, saving the family? Sure but Zod wasn't ever going to stop. He had to kill him.

@@GavinAeiltsforfun The terror and horror that fans felt when Superman snapped Zod's neck was exactly the terror and horror pa Kent thought the world would have and fear about his son. Forgetting all the good things Kal El did during the movie and only seeing the last decision. Writing a comfortable and "safe" premise for Superman to be with no conflict is so easy and could be boring (see Returns), but the risk taken here was acceptable as I immediately felt Clark's regret when he screamed out loud as he was pushed to do something he didn't want to.

It’s because it was a copied opinion. No one thought to check further, Superman has killed before, multiple times, both in animation, comics and live action.

Even the writer of Death of Superman said he agreed with this ending because there was no other way. I like the challenge of writing your characters into inescapable situations.

What story we know how he was programmed to think no real evolvution to be had there

​@Freeze_framestopmotionshe's really good at playing Zod that I can't imagine if another actor playing it.

Mike is right though, it just wouldn't be right without Zach....I would love to see a standalone Zod with him if Zach was at the wheel.

well 30 years wandering in space exploring Kryptonian colonies with his crew has definetly some potential

They should make one. Just call it ZOD.

Who's the last one is it that fast chick because she was pretty cool

@@001100AAAEA yeah the female kryptonian

“I will find” those other interviews 😉

People keep saying that but what characters have actually been brought back because of the multiverse? Loki and Gamora at least in marvel and well i cant say in DC since people come back to life without a multiverse ZSJL

The gravity of loss is still there. These multiverse variants are not the original I was invested in. Long story short- "you have the face, yet you seem like wholly different person".

wait till you see Bollywood 😂

I'm so sad to read that cause me, i absolutly adore that multiverse idea and the possibilities it opens up in terms of crossover, fan service and justification for this and that. I am sad because the disgust you have for it seems to be generalized and I believe that I am part of the minority. So i better get use to the idea of ​​not having fan service and different versions of the same characters within the same movie, right? But you see, i tend to believe (maybe i'm wrong. I probably am...) that the problem is not multiverses and fan services but the wrong and lazy ways that they are employed. To wrongly use a particular device doesn't mean that device is necessarily a bad one. What do you think? But as a screenwriter, imagine if you could meet and interact with another version of yourself in a parallel universe... And see Christopher Reeves' Superman interact with Henry Cavill's Superman, for example... C 'Mon! If it's well used and written, wouldn't you be a bit curious?@@PlymouthPontiac

What the fuck are you talking about? Only a couple of movies have even dealt with it. Most of those movies being from comicbooks that already dealt with the multiverse concept. I don't get you people whining about this.

Is that... A good thing

@@lightdarksoul2097 yes ofcourse

@@arz5944 a one off villain from a movie that WB saw as not good enough since it didn't make a billion dollars which was unfair to expect but I think that's WB in a nutshell.

How about actually good DC movies, to begin with?

That's because Zack Snyder is the BOSS OF BOSSES!

He’s incredible

"Why do you say this when you KNOW I will kill you for it?" - Terrence "Zod" Stamp

Agreed

The whole thing was a copied opinion. No one actually cared or thought to check.

I just rewatched Superman II. I thought was silly for them to just fill a pit with fog or smoke and then villains just fall in. He should have decapitated them. Or at least hurled them against a wall to be sure they're dead.

They get handed over to the police, they aren’t dead

@@deadpool3982 in the movie?

@@zero11010 in the Donner Cut, which means it was filmed to be the original ending prior to him being fired and replaced with Lester… …and going by Snyder fans thinking that’s the real version of Superman 2 lol Also, who said the pit was bottomless?

first world problems

He was treated better than he deserved.

​@@alphanerd7221his daughter died.

@@alphanerd7221so watching your daughter commit suicide is okay?

@@jaski4022 And he quit, so what? That isn't the studio's fault.