I'm glad Michael Smith finally said what I've been thinking: how is Urban Meyer's behavior acceptable at any level? People keep saying he needs to stick to college, but honestly, if that's how he treats people, he needs to stick to unemployment.
I've been in coaching for 20+ years and I've heard that Meyer was a piece of crap guy and now we finally have proof. The sad thing is he may have ruined that chances for other college coaches to go pro. Character is everything and a lot of people have forgotten this
I will say im currently in season 7 of my franchise and urban got ran out season 3. The spread (his offensive system) does NOT WORK in the pros 🤷 Trevor has been a probowl qb since he left tho
Michael Smith nailed it. Paul Finebaum knew it and said it months ago . Apparently a lot of people who really knew Urban Meyer knew it. This was an avoidable train wreck.
You said the magic word there at the end, Michael Smith: Leadership. The thing you need to understand, though, is that you don’t have to be a good leader when you exercise significant control over somebody’s life. Urban Meyer, legendary college football coach, never had to develop real leadership skills. And he was never self-aware enough to understand the difference between being feared and being respected, which is why his method of conducting interpersonal relationships didn’t transfer to the NFL.
I'm sad Urban Meyer's gone. This has been the most entertaining NFL train wreck since Days of Our Steelers and every gaffe has been amazing and wonderful.
College football is totally different than the pros. Meyers was spoiled at UF and OSU when he was able to recruit the best players in the Nation. Having the best players doesn’t make coaching hard since the system is rigged. The smaller programs do not recruit the same level of athletes and normally get killed when they play the blue blood programs. In the NFL every team has great athletes so at the NFL coaches have to do a better job of coaching their players. Plus in the NFL coaches are coaching men, not college athletes.
And the players in college don’t have contracts so his will is law and he could be the little tin pot dictator that his ego demands. I didn’t follow his career but it seems when he was faced with the different reality of the NFL his pouty, sulking, passive aggressive brattiness became manifest. More in line with a three year old than a mature adult.
At one time, at least, Meyer was a genuinely great (college) coach and not just for recruiting. He made Bowling Green into a top-25 team and built Utah up from an absolute nothing-happening program to a BCS buster and eventually in position to become a power-5 team that could well win the Rose Bowl in a few days as I'm typing this. Possibly the scheme advantage he once had has passed him by.
I wish people would remember. Meyer never truly build a program. It takes longer than the two year he stayed at Bowling Green and Utah. It's not like Florida or Ohio State were bottom feeders programs. Easy to recruit to get top talent for Florida or OSU when those schools were top 10 programs before he got there. Which QB has he developed outside of super intelligent Alex Smith at Utah, who was ready to play in the NFL or showed they could play in the NFL? Tebow? The guy who set the SEC career rushing TDs? Justin Smith showed up at OSU after Meyer left. But he was expected to develop the Jags generational QB, Lawrence.
Smith called it. There wasn't really incompetence in Meyer's character, it was complete indifference after he realized it wasn't gonna be a cakewalk. So he lashed out at players and coaches, and publicly showed disinterest in the operations. He's shown in the past that he's not interested in adversity
I hope Eric Bieniemy has the self respect to tell the Jags to pound sand when they inevitably come begging to hire him. They took Urban Meyer over him. The jags are getting what they deserve.
Somebody needs to go tell his sheltered little princess of a daughter that just because he treats his family well doesn't mean he treats everybody else well and all of his words about “family” and being a “good person” are just wasted wind when his actions are the antithesis of a decent man and coach. Its clear he is an arrogant and prideful man who attempted to dictate to that teams as opposed to working with them and leading them.
@@SR-hf3hx Right? Like how crazy is she? Just as delusional as him it seems. You know this is also how he treated those college kids and they, not knowing any better, stood and took the derision yet when he came up against grown men, professionals... he was revealed for the small man he seems to be
@@corvus2512 if you watch college football he's been this way for years....and we all every one of us treat outsiders different than our loved ones ...so she's clueless
Urban Meyer managed to cause a full scale rift and got players and his own coaches against him. Really awful behavior, no player should ever be treated like Josh Lambo.
Urban Meyer has always been this way. He left Florida a mess and bailed out and did the same thing with Ohio State but found out that the NFL is for real men and he ain't one. No wonder Notre Dame never went after him as their coach character does matter at least at some schools.
@@vo2897 I meant that Meyer was suspended for 3 games because he lied about knowing his assistant coach was beating his wife. Most universities would have fired him right then and there but schools like Ohio State care more about winning at any cost.
Rumors are that they were interested in Urban once, but after they met Urban, Urban set down so many demands/stipulations, ND will never be interested in Urban again.
Yes, it was harder than he thought it would be--and he checked out a couple weeks ago. So he's also a quitter. He's so arrogant that he thought he was also better than 90% of NFL coaches too. That he couldn't immediately realize the total difference of environment--that his BIGGEST skill, RECRUITING, has no value in the NFL. So...it's also a guy who, over the years slowly came to believe all of his own headlines and invincibility. Michael might have a point about self-destructiveness--intergalactic-level narcissists tend to have a lot of self-hatred.
The abusive behavior of Urban Meyer is the same as what Greg Schiano did to his players at Tampa Bay. This kind of shyt happens in college football but it will not fly in the NFL. Not surprisingly, when Schiano got booted by TB, he spend some time at OSU with Urban Meyer.
Tim Tebow didn't fail. He took his team to the playoffs and won a playoff game. He is the only QB to do so & never start another game. The NFL failed him.
College coaches that have NFL experience are eligible like Jim Harbaugh or even Shaw from Stanford, Even Ryan day coaches with no experience or not eligible for hire in NFL that is the new rule. They were talking about changing rules after the Urban fireing.
I liked that Michael downplayed the "college coaches can't hack it in the NFL" aspect. I know there's something to that, but it's not impossible for a college coach to also win at the NFL level--Jimmy Johnson did it. Jim Harbaugh did it (and would have an NFL job again this immediate offseason if he made himself available). Pete Carroll...granted, he was an NFL coach first, but he had success at both levels. Butch Davis isn't going to be mistaken for Vince Lombardi, but for decades he was the only Browns coach to actually get them into the playoffs. Even Nick Saban gets more of an "incomplete" than an outright failing grade.
There are college coaches who do find success in the NFL. Pete Carrol is a good example of that. He left USC to take the head coaching job in Seattle and the man has won a Super Bowl and has played in the Super Bowl twice. Some coaches have what it takes and some don't. Urban clearly don't have what it takes. Even Nick Saban who many believe is the best college coach of all time failed with the Miami Dolphins. But there are coaches who was able to make the jump and find success but you just have to find that diamond in the rough pretty much..
I am not going to give either one of these guys have passed I have been saying this about Urban Meyer since he was the coach at Florida and he ran and sat for a year because of a heart condition when the real issue was there was talent coming down there and he did not want to compete come to Ohio State recruiting low character people and low character people coaching these kids I had people laughing at me when I was talking about the character of this man and now y'all want to bring this up he's been this way
I think it is a cautionary tale for our colleges and parents sending their children off to college. A lot of kids only see a way out of moonshine, gangs and abuse through scholarships, the military or other ways to get out and never come back. These kinds of people can destroy the only chance a lot of kids have. For that matter parents need to take extra looks at teachers and coaches from all grades, not just college. Jeff Sandusky anyone?
The trouble with NFL owners is that most of them (and this may or may not apply to Shad Khan) have become successful through being arrogant, good luck, being exploitative and surrounding themselves with yes-men. When it comes to interview time, they don't recognise what real talent or leadership is because they've never had it.
Does this (/should this) epic spectacular faceplant, hurt his chances of getting back to collage football? or is all forgiven & forgotten as he probably starts winning (due to previous recruiters etc)??
Probably a few burt whoopins from the folks around him would have done him some good. Don’t have to put him in the hospital. Bruised ribs and a shiner. Hurt not injured
Some coach's can recruit a lot better than they can coach, I believe that both Urban Meyer and Nick Saban fall into this category. With great players they do well. With average players they do poorly. Nick Saban did poorly at Michigan State because he recruited poorly in state when Bo was at U of M. Same situation with Meyer.. These guys will always do poorly in the pros.
Urban Meyer took a Bowling Green team that was 2-9 the year before and won 8 games his first season, and then he made Utah into the original BCS buster and set the foundation that Whittingham was able to build upon to eventually get Utah into the Pac 12. Urban's a scumbag, but saying he wasn't a good college coach is just revisionism. He was the one that started the modern spread option offense that's everywhere nowadays and one of the most winningest college coaches in history for a reason.
Somebody can be successful and not be a good person. Well, duh. Where have I heard that before. Lots of successful people are not good people. Some start out with a few hundred million.
He's been a no good for years it was only a matter of time before everyone finally saw it....most people don't watch college football like that, nfl is king...if you watched college at all over the last 15 years you already knew
I watched college regularly especially during Urban’a heyday. The biggest red flags that anyone should have known was his Florida teams. Something like half of his starters were in trouble with the law.
@@sasquatchhunter86 a lot of people do watch college I love it ...but nfl everyone I talk to is into that....anyway you're right florida was a disaster...3 dozen kids arrested...and Aaron hernandez wasn't one of them lol meanwhile he allegedly shot at someone and broke a bar managers eardrum while he was there
Winners win and don't apologize for how they do it! Nobody thought he could win in the NFL and they were right. He'll be back in college smacking everyone again FO SHO
How did urban Meyer and Tim Tebow work? And be friends for so many years when Tebow is a good God fearing guy, the guy parents want their daughter to bring home basically compared to a guy who thinks it's ok to kick people at work?
That’s a good question, it just goes to show that Sports and political talk shows (not saying necessarily this one tho, rich eisen is level headed) are generally not always speaking truth.
It flew in college because he kept winning. It's all about the bottom line. If he couldn't have won, no one would've heard of Urban Meyer. Most college coaches who fail in the NFL do so for other reasons. I can't remember any coach from anywhere failing for those reasons. Sadly, Urban Liar missed the chance to have his recurring "health issues" that come up whenever he needs to conveniently quit.
@@tical2399 - Michael Smith is a racist shill pushing the corporate message. Character issues go farther than what the media is willing to present to you especially if that person is one of their own.
Not an Urban Meyer fan, but Michael Smith AKA Jamele Hill’s Lil Jester saying he’s glad someone was fired is as classless as it comes. It’s all good though, as I’m sure loads of viewers said the same thing about him… The guy is a schlub and complete facade - No wonder ESPN canned em ✌🏼
Meyer SHOULD HAVE been fired for what he did. You attacking a woman who has nothing to do with this clip and coming for Smith's manhood actually unhood your true character...that and using the word "SCHLUB"
Urban Myer failed miserably in Jacksonville... that's not to say he does not deserve all the credit in the world for his team's achievements while at Florida and Ohio State... Let's not make firewood out of a fallen tree... Let's face it, whole bunch of NFL players are pretty distinguished, unmanageable, prima Donnas. The flirting with the groupie at his own restaurant incident is between Myer and his wife abd, kids. The failure to travel back together with his team after a loss is what's reprehensible...
