@@youchangedmyforever7512 as a black person, i have to say, thank you. and also congratulations, you've shown me that its possible to slap someone through the internet lolol
But you should also understand that not all countries are like America. We don't all have the racial hatred built into our cultures and we didn't all get rich by enslaving people of colour. It's like when I speak to Africans and they say "we" had colonies in Africa, and I tell them that I'm Norwegian, it's like they cannot comprehend that some of the northern European countries were never a part of that. In Norway, we abandoned slavery a thousand years ago - long before Africa was ever discovered by the Europeans and then we were colonized for five hundred years, throughout the whole racist slavery thing. It really is a racist thing to say that Norwegians should be blamed for British or French behaviour because we have similarly coloured skin.
@@jeschinstad As a black person who has travelled the world, I can confirm that there are MANY cultures that make us very aware that we're black and treat us differently/worse because of it. We DO NOT get to switch off being self-conscious of the colour of our skin in most places.
@@DanBrown96my question to you as a black American is why do 95% of you fetishsize the Democratic Party to the point knowing that you won’t get reparations? And all other groups who vote democrat get incentives and meanwhile you get nothing. Why does that make you black Americans feel the need to help others in a fight for their own freedom but you can’t fight for yours? All y’all ever do is protest until the sun goes down and still get kicked in the face with sand. I say this is why you will remain the bottom feeders of society. 🤦♂️🙄🤷♂️
@@jeschinstadexactly. By observation most of them lowkey fetishize about being back in the 1600-1800’s all over again. You can’t tell a black American not to cross the street because of cars flying down the road and they will get injured or killed, but they could careless. A lot of them don’t know how to think for themselves until they get white American approval, whether they vote democrat or republican. Like I said before they are the bottom feeders of society.
As a guy in retail, I can tell you that both men and women get their way when they complain. Even if they're the problem. It's what makes so many customers insufferable. And to the girl who spoke with the manager about the employee talking to her friend instead of helping you, if that actually happened, then that's not being a Karen, but is a legit complaint.
Yep, its basic customer service. And to be fair, the vast majority of customers, even if they have a complaint, are not Karens. We just remember the Karens more because who remembers the customer with a reasonable complaint you were easily able to deal with?
My big pet peeve is when you get the counter and the person says "can I help you" and immediately turns their attention back to the person they were just talking to so they don't hear your answer. I don't throw a tantrum but I used to just immediately turn around and leave when that happened.
@@jkc7134why are judging, though? Can't customer service involve helping people with the products sold? Buying online, people research and read reviews. Is it fair to imagine she had questions or maybe that the flowers required wrapping or something?
stop being racist. People don't like being referred to as mixed. Its racist. You should look at everyone as white. I personally only see privileged people when I see people. @@elcalich33sehead
The last time I was in Mexico, one of my tour guides asked me to explain what a Karen is and then he was like "is there a guy version?" I was like "There sure is -- that would be a Chad." Then he proceeded to tell me a long story about a dude named Chad he'd dealt with on his tours who was such a Chad.
Exactly. I understood it about ten years after living in the USA. Everything about race in the USA in different than other places I’ve lived around the world
@themachine8009 yep people are too focused on race here. My black Hispanic friends and African friends don't understand this focus here and for some reason, they tell me they don't feel racial tension in the US. I think it's mostly an African American culture issue and not race
@frenchie2700 Hmm...Sometimes immigrants do not understand nuances of a culture and its mannerisms until they have lived in a culture for a long time. I bet they are fairly recent immigrants? When they grow to understand the culture, their perception will change as they begin to see certain patterns of treatment of themselves and others like them. Government stats support that there is racial bias against Black people in the US in multiple areas (policing, healthcare, education, etc.). There is no denying it no matter how uncomfortable it makes anyone feel.
@@frenchie2700as an African I will say it is different because we identify with our nation, our black nation, and we know our lineage because we weren’t enslaved in the US. We have our own tribes and ethnic groups within one race. The black race. The US is totally different because Black Americans do not have their own nation off of just their identity. The Caribbean although descendants of slaves too have their own nation. If you can understand that you can understand the difference some of your Haitian friends describe. We can’t ever fully understand the Black American experience as immigrants from other mostly black nations. I bet the Haitian will understand the deplorable state of their Country the is largely to do with France.
We Black women know this group so well. I wasn’t at all surprised that Oprah was their Black lady icon, either. Oprah’s talk show was the ultimate safe space and comfort zone. She never challenged them about their privilege and gave them lots of free stuff.
Please take a moment and consider what you two are writing here. "We black women know this group so well"? How polarizing and generalizing can you get? Did you have a poll? Or is this something you regularly discuss with your friends? "You know what bugs me, white women who choose oprah as their black icon!" Just for fun, lets flip the script: who is your white icon. And Please choose someone outside of your safe space and comfort zone ;)
@@MariaM-zl5rs Black people know white people a LOT more deeply than the reverse. Why? Aside from how we're treated as the default for everything in culture and society and adopt anything we want with impunity? They have to watch out for us every day of their lives while we can talk over them and roll through their needs and desires with no penalty paid. Now, how is the truth polarizing and wrong to speak, like I did and the woman who started this chain did? Did reality hurt you somehow?
As a Hispanic women who has worked on retail and gives other retail workers a lot of leeway, I have come accross some retail workers who have seriously encouraged the brown Karen in me. But even then, I would never go to their supervisor. I can confidently tell you that they also don't give af.
No. Her background is German, and while that doesn't mean she couldn't also be black, I believe she has addressed this before and said she is not. @@emanzeism
I don't think these ladies understand what a "Karen" is. If anyone is rude or dismissive to you or you're at a store and you legit need help and aren't getting it, asking for help does not make you a Karen. Speaking up and being assertive is not being a Karen. When people bother you for no other reason than, "They are not YT," and you mess with them, then that's being a Karen.
Scarlett is infuriating but she isn't a Karen. She goes out of her way to stop complaining and take charge so she and her family never starve again after the war.
@@kcbh24 The goal wasn't to think of the "OG Karen." It was to think of the "opposite of a Karen." Also, "Hera" (as it is spelled) is the protector of women, marriage, marital harmony, and women during childbirth. She got angry when Zeus slept with other women. (I think most women would relate to Hera.)
My name is Karen and I'll never be able to lodge a complaint, no matter how reasonable, ever. And I guarantee every time I say this, people will say, "oh you're being a Karen." I can't win
Ma'am, your name does NOT make you a Karen. _Behavior_ determines a Karen. Should you lodge a complaint sweetly and reasonably, YOU will be the reminder that Karen is just a name until you bring out the Karen behaviors. ❤ You absolutely can win.
@@arhafrench5319 I offer this very sweetly. How about if behavior determines the name of the behavior. If a woman is lodging a complaint and she's throwing a fit, how about we just call her a woman who's throwing a fit? Consider this, there's maybe a million American women named Karen we are going to be judged anytime they do something that others determine as a negative. I'm not trying to be a b**** and I know this sounds privileged, but shouldn't everyone have the right to complain without being judged and dismissed?
@@mister_manager 20 years ago I said my favorite singer was Tom Brokaw instead of Thom Yorke. Still haunts me to this day. Nowadays I can't even get my children's names straight.
I fell in love with the worm girl. The fact that she can be that carefree and fun loving to be able to do something crazy and a little gross, all while being an absolute smokeshow is pretty impressive.
I would say the opposite of a Karen (to me) is a Michelle - especially a Michelle Wolf. She's the nicest person in person, no matter what she says about herself in comedy. She's just a powerful, confident, gorgeous, hilarious woman who everyone should love.
How can you need help picking out a bouquet at TRADER JOES! Is all right in front of you. If you need help, go to an actual florist. None of the people at Trader Joe’s arranged the bouquets. 💐
After studying the Haitian Revolution, and all I can say is Dessaline would be somewhere turning in his grave if he read you’re 🦝 statement! You buck broken Haitian!
police wouldn't stand up to rioters, he put out a fire at a gas station, one guy did a fake surrender to try and attack him, and another guy (who just came oyt of the psych ward) died after chasing Kyle down telling Kyle that he was going to rip his heart out of his m-f chest. Kyle stood up for his community and crazy people attacked him. Look at the trial footage.
Using the term "Karen" is nothing but sexist. When men can act the same way but don't face the same consequences, that's a problem and it needs to change.
I once got called a karen for telling a teenage boy skier (also white) to not jib on a pine tree because it causes damage to the tree. Can we get an equivalent term for entitled white male youth?
Serious answer: Killer Mike is my black role model - his activism, giving back to his community, being a mentor, and of course his music. Anyway, this segment was hilarious 😂
Talking to a manager about an on the clock employee that isn't assisting you isn't being a Karen. I can tell you, my black behind would have had some choice words to share.
In everybody’s defense - everybody has behaved in an unbecoming manner in public before. Losing your cool in public happens - the important thing is to reflect and understand and learn from those moments.
I just graduated with my Ph.D. so I went into my University’s Career Center for a resume review. I met with a student who eventually called over the Director to assist. We were all sitting out in the open not in an office. She was trying to help. The resume I made wasn’t getting me anywhere so I made another appt with the Director except this time we were in her office and when that door closed, I got White Woman. Anyway, I go over how it’s been and for 35 min she regurgitated what I said only trying to make it sound like she knows more than I do and what I should be doing. I kept trying to steer the conversation back to the resume review. At one point I flipped my resume over to ask a question and she flipped it over and ignored the question. I had my laptop open where I had this excel file tracking where I’d applied and info like salary ranges etc. and one of the organizations is partners with the University. I caught her squinting and mouthing to herself one the positions so I shut my laptop quickly. Our time was up and I left her office without a resume review. The next day I received a rejection from the company. I’m a woman and person of color in science. She doesn’t even want to be in science, but the roles I’m applying for and the salaries that accompany those positions hurt her feelings/offended her and so that day she went full White Woman.
Why? It's probably a very elaborate and with delicate material. And we don't know what race the racist drycleaner is. You probably assumed a particular race, but since she didn't mention it, we don't actually know do we? I'm sure there are some indian owned drycleaners out there. I wonder what they charge?
*lattes (plural non-possessive) latte's = singular possessive (or a contraction of "latte is/has") Apostrophes are for contractions or possessive nouns, not for pluralizing. Notice how you (correctly) didn't use an apostrophe for "pants," so why did you do it for "lattes"?
For me personally: I stopped by Starbucks for a pumpkin spice latte after buying my dog a giant* birthday cookie. I realized then that I was the whitest white woman to walk the planet. *giant relative to the size of the dog. It was about 7 in diameter. The dog was a peekapoo.
It's not fully known but one side of her family is German and the other is "American". However, American could mean mixed with other races over the centuries, such as Native American and African American... or possibly even Jewish or Scottish (Scottish people have red hair, sometimes curly/frizzy hair).
Dolly Parton is what I think of as the absolute opposite of a Karen. When I feel the unreasonable rage rising, I think, "What would Dolly do? Would she be this angry about this situation?" If I can't see it, I calm way down. If I can...I let it all out and act a fool.
I feel like you didn't talk to any of the women that really give white women a bad rap. Follow Jordan Klepper to a Trump rally, and have these conversations there. The interviews won't go as well.
honestly I'm nothing like these women and I hope I'm never lumped into a group with these women. I think it has to do with the hardships you grow up with, continue to survive through and how much empathy you've learned along the way. That being said, I do acknowledge that the color of my skin has given me a certain priviledge I would not have had if it was darker. I just love people. And I wish everyone could be kind.
