Microsoft Surface Pro 8 Review 

Exactly.

The GOAT tech reviewer for sure.

Loved you comment!! :-)

Agreed

If Steve is my tech Jesus, Lisa is my tech Mom.

ok!

It’s gotta be harsh living in your house with no toilet paper.

@@oldcountryman2795 Device manuals and packaging material might work…

She’s my new tech mom 🥰

Luckily you're just one person and you mean nothing to them

Surface RT here 😅

@@e.h.5680 You still us it? I have mine as well. Still lovely to look at but it's so underpowered that even after a hard reset I just couldn't deal with it.

@@Ronnet I wish it had a modern browser. That would have made it usable again.

@@e.h.5680 Scam RU-vid isn't supported

Whereas you have not!!! 🤣🤣

Seriously waiting to snag one up for Christmas

That’s true. I picked mine up for quite “cheap”. This is in Australia though. Picked up a 16gb i5 model with 256gb ssd, a keyboard and pen. Slightly under $2000 Australian. So that’s about $1300 US. It’s replacing my mobile studio pro, and it’s doing a good job. The pen is surprisingly good.

@@smplfy it’s just a tool. I make my money back by doing work on it. If you want a bad idea for investment is buying tech products for the appreciation in value. Is holding onto an iPhone for 10 years so you can make a couple of hundred bucks profit, really worth your time and effort that much? 😅

And even "July Black Friday" lol just snagged one with a keyboard bundle for $899

i have 16 gb on the i5 so the option is available i got straight from MS

It's compared to ipads because of the lack of power for the price. The value comes from being tablet-like. Now that HP x2 Folio, Latitude 2 in 1, and other competitors exist it can be compared to similar hardware

Tl:dr it was closer to a tablet with windows than a laptop with tablet form factor- even with the top config due to no fans

I... didn't even knew there was a 8 gig option still, I thought 16 was the new base for some reason! 😅 So I went to check my options. And damn me. Damn fucking me! An i7 with 16GB of RAM plus pen/cover combo is 1800 bucks. Jesus! Love the idea of the device, with those specs it's basically a high end drawing tablet for much more comfortable Windows eco-systems, but it ain't "high end" enough to be worth that price point imho. Gonna have to find some good deal when it launches here in Europe!

@@theinktician It is compared to iPads because most RU-vidrs are Apple fanbois who don't know the difference between a big iPhone and a real computer. As for lack of power, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. There is no tablet sized computer as powerful, portable, small, light, and versitile as the SP8. 1. The Latitude is not a computer-tablet, it is a 2-in-1 laptop. 2. The x2 Folio does not have an Intel 11th Gen i5/i7 processor, it has an Intel Core M5-6Y54 processor (which is a joke).

@@Brian-jv8iy Having used an iPad (and other Windows convertibles) before... yeah, it's not the same at all. The stand on the surface holds any angle or position you want, it can stand up on next to zero footprint, it will stand up on your lap with or without the keyboard and it obviously doesn't make the thing any thicker than it is, being built-in. It actually makes for a pretty decent handle grip if you're free-handing the thing. And the easy on/off non-wireless backlit keybouard with a touchpad is also a whole different ballpark, aided by the fact that it's running a full desktop OS. You can sort of get there on an iPad and there are things the iPad does better, but my original point is that everybody keeps assuming that slapping a stand on a case or having a foldable permanent keyboard does the same things the Surface Pro does, and that's not true at all in practice. The details matter here.

I thought the surface go uses Intel x86 processors though not ARM?. I considered buying the i3 one for quite a while but ended up deciding not to after sorting out some software issues on my pro 5

@@NiSE_Rafter Sorry, I mistyped that. I meant the Pro X, not the Go. The Go is a (very underpowered) Intel, even in this latest generation. For that form factor the iPad is a better choice, even with the worse form factor.

I am thinking steam deck and a tablet paired together. You get a nice Samsung tablet with equally good pen support and a faster pc that you could use to play games.

Quit wasting time on meaningless games and you might have a life with some meaning.

@@machtschnell7452 how about meaningful games?

Looking for videos now on the best eGPU to hook this up in :)

@@machtschnell7452 The purpose of my life is playing games.

It has Thunderbolt and a replaceable SSD. Both are much faster and reliable options compared to microSD.

@@fallinginthed33p why can't we have both? It's moronic removing the SD card reader.. there's literally no reason to do it.

USB A isn't a thing on tablet PCs any more and is being removed from many high end laptops too. The target audience uses SD cards, MicroSD was a lot less popular. Agreed it should've remained but doubt it was used much. I use MicroSD with an SD adapter in my camera for this reason but I doubt most do who want the higher speeds.

@@studioviper3016 The only reason being the tech industry has been standardising around USB C for some time now. Agreed still.

Buying an SD-card hub is way better than a single slot on your tablet. The SD-card will get cooler while using outside of tablet. Beside that, connecting your device with micro SD-card like camera or smartphone is way safer and healthier, because those devices can protect your SD card while transfering files. Unless you want your SD-card dying faster with their limited lifespan. To conclusion, SD card slot isn't that useful as you might think for professional standards.

The battery of the base portion of my Surface Book was bulging at the base last year. Got rid of it because of how unsafe that is, and just used the tablet portion with a bluetooth keyboard. Now that battery is bulging. It's a known issue but yeah, it's on its last legs so I'm kind of deciding what I want between a Surface Laptop Studio and the Surface Pro 8.

@@pharaohosam Look at the Lenovo X1 Yoga gen 7. It doesn't have bulging body parts and if you get the Intel i7 pro gen 12 it lights it up!

Surface Book is too heavy w the kb base but it was good for when it came out (if you got one w/o issues like mine)

You’re right, this thing is more expensive than macbook

So you would not recommend the HP x360 Spectre 15"?

Just picked up my Pro 8 for $909 ... my first Surface, very excited!

But you can't use egpu's and ipadOS has horrible monitor support it just mirrors that iPad display with Thicc black bars at the side. It's not really 'thunderbolt' thunderbolt like speeds for data transfer.

I have a Surface Pro 7 and it can charge over USB-C and can display 4k-60 or 1440-144hz on my displays. Besides external GPUs, what exactly would Thunderbolt bring to the table? I use a $60 USB-C HUB which is much cheaper than a Thunderbolt dock.

It is an Intel proprietary standard.

Wrong. Intel Evo requires at least 9 hours of battery. Only SP7 has had battery issues. As for price, no one including you buys anything at full retail price?

SG8 is part of Intel Evo program which ensures at least 9 hours of battery life... Also, only the SP7 has battery issues. The SP6 and SP7 Plus have great batterys.

The aluminium probably is better at conducting heat to the surroundings, so it should be less hot to the touch. And the replaceable SSD makes up for the micro sd card reader for me at least.

I was thinking of getting surface pro 8, is it worth it? I am going to use it for programs and drawing

Switched from SP3 to latitude lineup when I realized how difficult it was to open a surface device

i guess these devices are built to be replaced every 3 years or so. which sucks for us and benefits them.

I would like a Surface device but the XPS is better long term investment.

With chip shortage and all these new features, how do you expect SP8 to be cheap.

@@IamG3X Eh I don’t expect anything. I’m just not buying one.

How do they work? :)

Does the old pen still attaches to the tablet magnetically?

@@andreypoltev unfortunately no

the problem with this keyboard, in my opinion, is the whey. You go for 1,5+kg for this combo...

How’s the battery life?

I suppose it depends on how you handle it and take care of it - most non-tech-people are pretty bad at that! I had the Surface 2 when it came out for three years, I bought the Surface 3 (non Pro) in 2016, it is still working albeit slow, and I bought the Surface Go when it came out (preorder) and its also still working (to be fair, it has a minor touch defect in the bottom of the screen). Overall, considering I - or my wife- used these devices on a daily basis, I would say they are okay.

How many surface device did you company purchase? I've had mine last 5+ years. In fact, they still work but I stopped using them after buying new ones. I can imagine a case of bad luck if you only had 3 or 4. But if you had much more then I'd be almost statistically impossible to break them all within 2 years.

They are horrible to service. This laptop is not meant to be opened or repaired; you can’t get inside without inflicting a lot of damage. The CPU, RAM, are soldered to the motherboard, making upgrades a no-go. Big techno waste.

@@maxpink Same is true for most devices nowadays, especially in Apple devices. If you really want repairability and upgradability, you need (e.g.) either a Thinkpad or a Framework laptop.

@@PaSeBlu So true, it's very wasteful. I don't know of a pc with pen input that isn't a glued/soldered mess. But if you need a regular laptop, those are great options

MacBooks ain't computer-tablets, they are laptops that don't have basic 21st century features like: touchscreen, pen support, 1080p webcam, 2-in-1 desing, 180 degree screen, face unlock, upgradability, etc. MacBooks also have a long history of class-action lawsuits: connectvity, keyboard, thermal throttling, green screen, and cracked screens (2021). As for too expense, why was the black SP8 (i5, 16 ram, 512 ssd) and the platinum (i5, 16 ram, 256 ssd) sold out last week on Best Buy? Just say you can't afford SP computer-tablets and leave it at that...

Long-term surface pro user here (since the 1st) - creative professional, now at my current company we have had 2 generations of Dell "detachables" as they call these where you have a keyboard cover. The 7200, quickly followed by the 7210 .. and now their latest and greatest just released a few months ago .. 7320 which is akin to the Surface pro 8 in a lot of ways with the increased screen-size (the dell has smaller bezels tho) and thunderbolt 4 ports etc. The surface still wins out for build quality hands down, and the extra 200$ i would rather pay over the alternative. For example if you use the 72xx or 7320 (both we have in i7 config only) - the fan is ALWAYS running. Even idle in desktop. If you TURN the unit from horizontal to vertical or vice versa, you will hear this sliced cabbage sound.. or that's what i call it. It's cause the fan starts chugging and making a weird noise when you turn it, cause the fan's rotation couldn't keep up with that motion. I 've never. ever heard a fan on the surface series do that, and i've been mostly using the i7 surface pro's. Even doing something ultra light (just running MS teams nothing else) the fans on the dell always tend to ramp up really quick. The surfaces don't really. Dell's cooling solution is pretty shitty. Then the dell detachables all are extra high, and don't fit properly in most 13 inch messenger bags from expensive brands (peak design) .. due to the fact they have extra feet on the side of the detachable keyboards to heighten the unit. This makes the unit have extra surface space akin to nearly a 15 inch device.

I got through my entire college career with the surface pro 4 and it still feels good I think 5 or 6 years down the road now.

There is an LTE if you buy the business option.

@@Alex-mu3gf What dies that give you tho? Still no SD card slot since you cant just shove that into the Sim Tray and call it a day...

At least the SSD can be replaced with a larger option.

Lol that screen is definitely nowhere near as good as OLED.

For me personally, I might lean toward Surface Laptop Studio since I prefer a larger canvas.

But then you'd be stuck with an Apple...

@@MEanPenguin908 read the comment again.

128 is fine. 4gb ram which is still a thing in sp7 is not. cant even run zoom with an office app without lagging.

Yes! Phones now days starts at 128, Microsoft is a joke in those things. The based should be 512 honestly

I am an IT Manager and we have a split of Surface (Pro 4-6), Surface Books (1- 3), Surface Laptops and Dells. All of the Surface devices drain their battery while they are off. I have to plug in all of the unused devices every few weeks to bring up their charge to 100%. I have also lost 2 devices after they dropped to 0% charge. They just wouldn’t boot up (even after performing CPR on the device (look up CPR on Surface Pro to see what it is.)). This power drain has been one of my biggest complaints with the Surface line.

@@hafacah what is the main reason behind this?

@@eyhtwozed2606 Not quite sure. Could be "connected standby". This would require editing the Registry to change the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlPower - CsEnabled DWORD to "0" but then you won't be able to put your device to sleep.

squeak squeak squeak 😂

Well that puts you in the 1:1000 category fairly and "squarely"! Agree with the overall summary: Excellent form factor (ultraportable + touch/pen) but terrible price... Top review.

True.. surface pro user here

Yes it is. I speak as a Surface Pro 6 owner. I use a Surface mainly for the pen feature, and the new digitizer and Slim Pen 2 combo are a big step up. The other reason is Thunderbolt 4. If those are important to you, then it's worth the upgrade. For horsepower, less so-- the new one is faster, but a Pro 6 is still very responsive.

@@viazel2796 No, it's not worthwhile to upgrade from the Pro 4 but it is worthwhile to upgrade to the much newer and more powerful Pro 6 to the Pro 8. Because... that's how anything works.

@jo e put an sd card or upgrade the ssd?

@jo e well actually not as bad as you dd think

Slim design? Pen? Touch screen? Display resolution?

Just for you 12:35 🙂

13:57