Mid Graves Is HOT🔥 in KR Challenger 

This looks good, too. Fleet Footwork + Overheal + Immortal Shieldbow + Bloodthirster www.op.gg/summoner/userName=%EC%96%91%EB%85%90%ED%98%95

Spamming mastery 7 is also essential as it deals mental damage over time

As a Graves main, using E>Q while reloading ammo or Auto>Q>E can cancel the animation of Q and have your Q shooting after E ends. Besides, the animation of Q>W is faster than W>Q and Q2 will be easier to on-hit. These are significant in laning.

hey dobby, i love your videos a lot, but just an idea: can you also discuss a bit on how to *beat* the meta picks at the end of the video sometimes, for people that don't necessarily want to play it? i think that'll be really helpful. thank you, and hope you have a good week ahead :D

Funny to see nemesis clips here XD

Jungler champs in Challenger: We did it boys, Jungle is no more

Dammit Tobias. Finally he made it happen

I swear I've seen Graves more in lane than the jungle recently, both top, mid, and even bot. It's annoying.

0:17 Nemesis

Man I remember the time Graves was an ADC. Now he became a jungler now a mid laner.

4:39 My guy just dissapeared

11:41 let's nerf Asol

i really hope there will be a " How support mains carry" video, cuz i reallllllllyyyyyy want to knowwwwww how they carry. thx dobby

thanks for this videos, there are the best lol videos. I meet you in Th3Antonio´s streams and i see all your videos. You have a lot of fans from Spain.

As someone who used to play mages this is fucking beautiful. Anything to pummel assassins and high mobility fighters are always welcome. More graves mid and bruisers in mid lane is always welcome!

LS enjoyers knew about this tech first

first! I want to say that your videos are the best League videos in all youtube

His armor with his E passive is just so goddamn annoying

I have 2 Mill mastery points with graves mainly playing him mid. Back in s8 - s10 every time I picked graves mid I would always get reported after the game for trolling. Even if I was carrying. It was so tough to get in games but now it seems people don't care. In S9 I was OP with graves. I think I avged 21/4/11 when playing mid. Out of 4000+ games. Also the reason why I played him mid was becuz I got very bad anxiety playing jungle. Getting flamed and spam pinged was my worst nightmare so I always avoided it. But now it's gotten a bit better, I can play jg without worrying about getting flamed these days.

I want to say Graves is hot not only in mid 😉

thanks for the timestamps!! everytime i use the champions in your videos, i cant seem to find the runes but thank you for this !

6:50 trundle killed Karma with pillar lol

Thank so much dobby! Graves is one of my favorite characters... you making a video about him in my main role is crazy! Thank you and keep it up with the amazing work!

i remember yamatosdeath1 was playing this a long time ago with a similar lethality build. i tried it and was like "hey this is actually good" but stopped picking graves after awhile and here we are. might return to graves because of this video!

Would be cool a lee sin tips and tricks! Btw nice video as always.

Hi dobby, have you noticed on-hit ashe? Idk if it's worth to make a video on that, but it's got my interest at least.

Ls called it :D

4:40 dat scream lmao

Hi Dobby, you should watch the CN challenger "张嘉文“ main at graves, you will be impressed how powerful graves can be rather than the plays in this video

3:50 ah yes the follow up i need

Your channel is so chill Dobby, it’s educational, and entertaining ☺️

Man, i can't thank you enough. I got out of bronze and went straight to gold II with this pick.

thank you for taking some clips from nemesis

4:39 lmao deleted in 0.5 seconds

Graves jg counters fiddle but i feel like Graves mid gets countered by fiddle because fiddle will usually have already cleared raptors before anyone is lvl 2 and fiddle can just fear the Graves and walk away. Also the armor from Graves E doesn't matter to fiddle.

Great video dobby ! can you do evelynn jungle too ? i'm kinda love the champ but it seems weaker than any champ in game even after 6 or u cant go 6 without got hard invade

I used to play PTA Graves Top (PTA for extended trades btw when facing tankier team comps eg Sett Renekton Mid)

Can you do renekton next? I'm starting to play renekton yesterday and i went 1/8/7 because i don't know what to build and the fury control is kinda hard for me

Is your second account named lol analyst?

I miss the Graves with the old harvest, the old draktar and the old stormrazor(with a chance of guaranteed crit).

Youre finalny using this song! Love it

Have been preaching this since rw graves in lane is extremely oppressive when played well

Hey man, love your videos, can you make one about Camille?

It’s so hard to switch to lethality after playing gale force/shield bow graves for so long now , is that still viable in a lane I feel like some situations it’s better no ?

Hey Dobby, i really want you to make video about how to play again ranged toplaners. Pls put it into your ideas box.

pantheon mid: hold my beer

Would you make a video from renga top plz ( sorry my bad english)

Can this same build be use in jungle? Till Master?

Ive been playing this for the past year just because of how fun it is. Don’t even care if nerfs come this shit is too fun

First picked graves mid three games in a row and went against cass, syndra and zoe :(

I like how u made it sound so complicated

So that’s why I’ve been seeing graves lately in my ranked games

Can somebody pls talk about how LS popularized this pick and has been talking about and playing it for a long time.

Ive already played this last year and now it become a new meta=)?

Mid graves is actually super popular in CN all elos, last year when I was playing in CN server I literally meet mid graves every single day and it’s so hard to deal with, especially with ad champions

5:39 'Q-flash is a key trick' Graves does flash-Q. Bruh moment.

Isn't that Nemesis in the highlights?

tobias fate is prasing himself :))))

So you're telling me that Tobias Fate's mid Graves is not a troll pick ? This guy is truly built different, ahead of his time

I have been playing this for the last 2 years, these Korean challengers have stolen my strategy XD

One of Camille pls Im trying to play better top and camille its one of the top liners that i use

Always a bit stupid that people who abuse the most broken crap are also the people who spam mastery emotes.

Que lo juegue dice 👌

0:16 this is Nemesis right?

meanwhile i play shieldbow/sunderer + deaths dance graves top. Unkillable after the 2nd item. Sure i dont oneshot people with it but i dont die easily with it either so camille, fiora and other random burst champions end up losing to me later

Tobito launched a trend

Isn't it better to run Shieldbow and then infinity edge?

There's no items recommendation this time?

Everyone can be a hero. If you shoot a leg or too (just going mid)

What I learned from this is to always spam mastery 7 emote after pressing q and r

Leaving a comment under every video until an Aurelion Sol guide comes out - video 8 What's funny is that I've seen this pick a few times before, and even then I was convinced that he is a strong midlane champion. Not only does he have some real high burst, but he also got featured in a SkillCapped video about off meta picks (alongside other champs like Vi mid), which shows that he always had a ton of strength in mid. But of course, it only gets popularity when the Koreans start doing it, because we really like copying their homework, and you only make it easier, which we appreciate. The reason why Graves mid is so good right now is the same reason why Renekton and Nocturne were great midlaners too. They beat squishy melees with no counterplay. And I find it funny how these picks just keep on coming and Riot nerfs them without addressing the reason why these weird midlaners need to exist. Graves in particular especially likes going up against melee champs, but if there is a ranged guy misplays a lot and eats Graves' damage, then Graves can still snowball somewhat reliably on them, though it should take a bit more effort. The guide was fairly good and straightforward. Graves is a perfect example of a medium difficulty champion, having a few combos and skillshots, along with the whole ammo thing (but that reloads a lot faster than Jhin, so it's easier to manage), and of course the minion blocking on the shots, which can really mess you up if you forget about it. I'm not really someone who plays a lot of Graves, but the video left me with a pretty good understanding of how he is supposed to play, and it will prevent me from getting surprised by his shenanigans if I will get him as my opponent (which is pretty much why I follow this channel - gotta see into the mind of the OP champ). There's just two thing that I would like to point out: 1. The reason why autos can do so much damage is his passive. It basically makes his autos work like a mini Ashe volley, except that getting hit by multiple bolts will actually increase the damage, causing his autos to deal 199.91% AD damage at point blank range. (Which gets increased a bunch more if he buys crit, cus of the bonus damage and two extra bolts. Buuuut the builds of these challengers don't include much crit, so that isn't relevant) 2. Smoke screen messes with point and click stuff the most (including auto attacks). The reason why is because you can't click on anything outside the smoke screen, so if you want to Nasus wither their backline, or just fire at them from a distance as Senna, well, you can't. Using the smoke will be annoying for everyone ofc, but keep the point and click ranged stuff in mind and prioritize those. It also works better against immobile champs cus they have a harder time exiting the zone.

The biggest issue I have with graves mid is that he just builds a vampiric scepter and then is irremovable from lane with poke/shoving etc. If he couldn't lifesteal so hard, I'd have no issue.

time to play some graves

How the enemy evelynn always carries please

Oh so it's the Bella Ciao build.

Remember to blame Lemon if the next patch includes graves nerfs in lane XD

Make shyvana tips and tricks

Encountered one of this and picked Lux... He's 2/15/8....

Bellaciaoo got Challenger 1000 lp with Graves mid in season 10

Weak against mages Strong against assassins (Btw you the crucial power of Ninja Tàbis is worth mentioning) -> be careful what matchup you pick him into.

man Tobias fate must be enjoyed hearing this lol

Nemesis creation...

Tobias is a genius based on this vid, even though he’s trash at mid graves lmao

If you want a stress-free game.. HA!

Bruh, I predict this when played him top cause I got autofill in a normal.

yase porque me trolearon 2 graves en mid

LS and Nemesis prophecy

That is nemesis play pls mentioned it

Well, if you guys want to play Graves adc go for it, not illegal… The champ now is mouch better than old graves by far and when he is viable on solo lane he is also viable on botlane i bet

I am not sure but i feel like sentinel graves give him more damage in his q and ult

If this is korean challenger then I might as well be Sun Tzu

video for ziggs adc?

0:16 Nemesis btw

I played crit graves in top and stomped a Wukong and his boyfriend jungler so yes it’s actually pretty good.

hey Ls its everyone

good luck laning against irelia :)

ahri actually counters graves hard in mid, since she has the wave clear to match + the ability to never be in grave's range. hope you abuse those filthy graves mid abusers with this knowledgde

just curious, why not crit build like : shieldbow + collector + ie. I tried crit in practice mod and every crit was 1k dmg . I mean, if we stand vs champs (somebody 1 combo = 1 shot): zed, lb or else, why wouldn't they use a crit build ? is it weak or what ?

graves burst dmg is crazy

tobias fate have my children