Why EVERYONE Plays: Graves | League of Legends 

Why does everyone play Graves? Cigar.

Why does everyone play Graves? Not Woman.

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My friend oncr asked me "why did you picked graves?" And i answered "well everyone uses magic or powers and this guy just shoots everyone in the mouth with a shotgun"

@@stef2304 He do be gay tho

Yes

He fires four shots with each shot....I think he is actually making fun of jhin

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@@novakmilekic7533 not really he just switches weapons he can still autotack

@@geok9765 Weapon switching is the same as reloading, you can't auto attack during the weapon swap, and your weapons do have limited ammo so you WILL end up swapping your weapons, making you unable to auto attack for a short time.

Level 2 Graves is one of the best champions in the game

Back when his shotgun was a machine gun

​@@classick3064 it has always been a shotgun. he just used to to load with more than 2 shots and he used slug shots instead of pellets

I miss old graves too. His auto animation was so fucking satisfying

Back when he still had a cigar..

I miss crit graves still, first main

Wow your mains are just... disgusting

I love hearing new players learning and experiencing the game. I’ve been playing the game for 9 seasons now so sometimes the game can get stale and seeing the game from another person’s perspective is so cool.

Graves IS the carry jungle; tho he's so hard you can simply play kayn, hyper farm, and basically do the same BUT graves has a lil problem compared to the other carry junglers. Kindred: he's hard as fuck but scales very very safely and has a lots of dashes to not get fucked, he also can get "fed" with marks; and his ult is very very strong even if you're 0/10 Kayn: like kindred he has very safe scaling and an almost impossible to screw up gank, even if it doesn't end in a kill, then after getting red (because blue is useless rn) you're just immortal. Then, what does graves miss?... UTILITY AT ALL and a non interactive way to farm; you HAVE to invade you HAVE to gank you HAVE to outfarm and you HAVE to win 1v1 to be usefull; he's hit or miss, no way in the middle; and since he's a melee you get in a kinda toxic place where Graves won early: "lol i dash in oneshot everything that moves and have 300 armor" Graves lost early: "i cannot even kill my raptors!, why?!" Graves is broken because he's an hypercarry who can fuck half the jungle early game; but you have to be ahead or you'll be outscaled very very easily

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Graves has almost no cc and is horrible when behind.. what?

@@calmrag6143 not when you buy everfrost lol

@@calmrag6143 But high elo/pro players still main him. You wanna know why? because just like this vid mentioned graves can just stop doing risk, ignore his team and focus on powerfarming so he can hard carry at lategame. Of course not everygame is winnable but the fact that graves has multiple options like powerfarming for lategame or tracking enemy jungler for early game pressure and invades is exactly why the best junglers in the world favors him.

@@blurryface5744 Yes, I completely agree, but the comment is saying anyone of any skill level is able to do well on graves which is completely false. Playing graves requires a certain amount of finesse and understanding of jungle pathing to excel with, and is not as simple as hecarim.

@@blurryface5744 what?, if graves powerfarms he's a clown; you have to invade and win early or you'll simply get fucked in melee; lategame is also very hard because if you get caught out say goodbye to life

Huh, someone should make an SFX mod that gives you the Super Shotgun sound effects for Graves' shotgun

Theres a custom DOOM skin for Graves on killer skins

With their teammates expecting them to kill everyone like Yi and Viego so that they can go stupid.

Same can be said of any low elo player playing anything with even a little skill expression.

@@butterflyfx57 My friend insisted on buying cull because he said pro players do it all the time. We told him that it only work at pro level because they are not playing solo they have teammates to protect them from harass and they don't have mediocre cs like him. I love how people read pro builds and think they can just copy it.

Senna confirmed to be the best champion in league

@@deonm4759 No doubt

most lane graves takes presence of mind instead of triumph (if they go precision tree of course), as long as u hit ur auto to ur lane opponent, ur mana will not run out quickly. the only time i would see a lane graves ran out of mana super quick is when he's playing with the standard assassin build where u would go domination for the main tree with coup de grace + alacrity instead of presence of mind + alacrity in secondary tree

@@slavchems4759 you underestimate graves mana costs. Q is like 1/4 of his mana pool early on. If you are forcing him to quickly push the wave and fight you he will run out of mana, even with presence of mind

@@alex2005z yeah Q is 1/4 of his mana early in the game, but u literally dont need use it everytime to shove waves, ur auto can wave clear better than most fighters/skirmishers. u would only need to use Q a lot when ur fighting mages, cus most mages has better wave clear than graves

@@slavchems4759 yes, thats why I said "if you fight him". If you just stand there and see who can clear the wave better he wins, but you can fight him to prevent him from just pushing the wave and getting away with not using abilities

@@alex2005z fair point

Requires practice on playing graves. I too am an asol main but I also play a lot of graves mid. My guess is that your playing him like a ranged character when you more or less just want to get right up into their face. Graves has animation cancels and rythem combined with some good positioning to get those Q bounces off walls. Just takes practice just like Aurelion swole Currently graves is op with hydra rush

Omg this phenomena is rarer than your dad showing up, THE LAST 2 ASOL MAINS IN ONE LOCATION???? Tomorrow must be the end of the world

you are probably hitting people with your autos from max range and missing some of pellets if you auto someone with graves when you are up close to them every pellet will hit which will make you do 20 to 30% or even more damage than you normally are, like a shotgun in real life the closer it is to the target the more effective it is

Gotta kiss them with the shotgun.

It might also be the build, I usually go eclipse manamune

My man!

Literally what i just did

For a second I thought you were going to whine about Riot making him gay and I was gonna burst out laughing.

Everything you said is exactly my experience. I loved Graves in s5, I still do, but its not the same.

Peace and Christ Bless! Have a nice day! Ironically enough, I had a graves who was Jungle and carried the game. We won. The Graves player had like 18 kills. 2 deaths and 8 assists. And its new information to me that they changed his lore. I only been consistenly playing League since October or September. I played some in 2018 and 2021 but that was that. [26-11-2022_03_19.]

@@elpinguino2468 yea thag change is cancer ruining my main just to appeal to inbreds

@@elpinguino2468 compared to some of the other idiotic new lore shit and retcons I’ve read up on over the years, TF and Graves’s gaying it up is perfectly fine. I just want ADC Graves back.

I've only had this problem when playing him top lane since jungle has mana regen

guardian

Definitely and he has a more unique play style than a lot of other champs so it makes sense he gets a following

And that's the problem with graves: If i'm playing a support jungle i'm suppose to give up my own farm to gank and pressure lanes. If i'm playing an hypercarry i'm saying "fuck my lanes" and giving up early pressure to carry late, i also have to macro my way to not be invaded and hope my team doesn't fuck up Invades/1v1 junglers are supposed to win early by getting fed or else i'll fall of... THEN GRAVES! He can gank basically everything from 3 screens away pressing w and e, if lanes are behind he can hyper farm and if lanes are ahead he can invade; he can basically do anything alone

Wow what a coincidence, i hate graves so much while also play eve and viego.

super-damage and super-tanky on graves are pretty much entirely mutually exclusive. you can still feed the champion and make him feel unbeatable, but that's an issue in player performance, not champion performance. grit stacks only grant armor, take a long time to build, and fall off fast, so you can play around them if you understand the way they work. a fairly simple solution is just picking an AP champion. he *can* still be tanky through his goredrinker build, but that build gimps his burst damage very hard and he loses most of his mid/late-game pick potential from building it.

​@@beppermint4092 Few counterpoints to that: A. You don't always have the choice to pick an AP champion. B. You don't need to be super damage to be an issue as a ranged character that can tank. Mostly because you can skip a part of the gap closing process and have a much easier time sticking. C. Grit falling off fast helps you in 1v1ing, but the main issue with graves is his 1v9ing. Generally you don't get to pick the fight against him, your feeding and tilted teammate does. Leaving you to fight a very poor fight or lose baron. Where if you as 5 cannot kill him, and if he doesn't kill all of you he will get at least two (when he is powerful) leaving baron up for grabs for the enemy team.

​@@hungrymusicwolfa few counterpoints to that: A: picking bad fights doesnt make the champ op, thats just skill diff. There is nothing on graves that means you wont get to pick your fight when you want it. B: he is only really tanky with the bruiser build, and you need to go in melle range to get your full value or you wont be in range for goredrinker. C: his defensive stats need him to hit people and do almost nothing against burst dmg, against which he is quite vulnerable. D: his effective range is much lower than other ranged champs as he wont get 4 bullets to hit at max range, so his dmg falls of a lot if he isnt close

​@@alex2005z A. You haven't played solo queue if you think you get to pick your fights. B. This video is about graves in general, not just graves right now. He easily gets out of hand in both tankiness and damage. C. Again, great if you can pick your fights _but solo queue is chaos and bad people are the ones starting the most fights_ D. The advantages of range allow you to chase and kite, both those advantages remain. Now excuse me while I do more useful things with my life.

@@hungrymusicwolf yes, you clearly have more usefull things to do, such as blaming your teamates for everything instead of getting good