nene,pro ten případ jsem na začátek dal datum 1977-1998 aby si to nikdo nemyslel,že jsou stále používány,i když by to naše 20trojky směle zvládly jistě i dnes.
Pěkné záběry! Možná se pletu neber to jako výtku, ani jako naprostou pravdu, ale nezačaly nás bedny sloužit až v roce 1979? V 98 roce je ještě pamatuju, jak se nám proháněly nad chalupou, vyřazeny pak byly až v roce 1999. Poslední byl asi tygří 4644. Ještě právě někdy začátkem roku 1999 byl nejen o nich, ale tuším o celé čáslavské základně a konkrétně o nočních letech článek. Když jsme pak vstoupili do NATO a tehdejší velitel narušoval záměrně v rámci své návštěvy vzdušné prostory nově příchozích států (PL kde k němu startovaly dva Migy-29, jako poslední HU kde tomu bylo myslím zrovna tak ), tak i náš, kde k němu letěla už trojice Migů-21, které už přebíraly hotovost. Ale Migy-23 ještě ve výzbroji určitě byly. Až v průběhu toho roku byly poslední vyřazeny. Takže bych dal 1979-1999. Ale jak jsem řekl, tutovka to není...
Munteanuioan, thanks for the educated comment regarding the MiG-23. Isn't it interesting that although the MiG-21 was a much older design...both the MiG-21 and MiG-23 were both retired from service at about the same time in the Soviet Union.
Jeeeej ta 23 v 1:30 je uz teraz v Leteckom muzeu v Kbeloch, pekny exponat, myslim ze dostal novu kamuflaz k prilezitosti 50 vyrocia nejakej leteckej zakladne - Caslav, Zatec, Budejovice? Neviem.
I've always wondered, since the Mig-23 was made in both a fighter and a ground attack version, did it perform well in both roles? Often, an aircraft works well in one role but not so well in others, and the more roles it tries to fill, the less effective it seems to perofrm any of those roles (case in point - the U.S. F-111 - though it was intended to "do everything", the only roles it seemed to perform "adequately" in was attack and electronic warfare).
Well the Fighter/Interceptor Mig-23ML Flogger G & MLD versions preform pretty well whey flown by experienced pilots. As for the Mig-27 Flogger it's performance is a little less. Main problem is you've got a ground attack aircraft with the thrust of the fighter version thus limiting you ability to staffing runs except at low speeds which is were the swing wing comes into play.
Nope the Romanian pilots liked the Mig 23 , and it had a good operating record. They considered this fast interceptor with a good payload a capable aircraft. The ex-Iron Courtain airforces were forced to retire the 21,23 and 29 pretty quickly because of major budget cuts.
The philosophy of the russians was to create cheap jets that could be mass produced. A MiG 23 may cost 5 million, an F15, 30 million. So spending the same amount of cash you have 6 MiG23's to 1 F15. Swamping your enemies airpsace with such a large number of jets would be very effective.
Interesting - could you say a bit more about the reasons why they were so disliked by the pilots? I know that the workload was far greater in 23s then in 21s but was there anything else?
Are there any of the Czech MiG-23s that have remained in airworthy condition since their withdrawal? If not, are there plans to restore a Flogger? I just ask because the other day I saw a MiG-21PF flying with a Czech insignia on RU-vid.
The MiG-23's were at the end of their life span of 1000 flight hours and I guess 20 years, they would need a general revision but that would be too expensive to do, so all were withdrawn, unlike mig-21's with 30 years life span.
Last Modification Was In Conflict in early 80 - s in Syria and Fighting With Israeli F15 and F16 and count after war was 54 migs lost - and 42 F15 and f16 - this is proof fact - tis is plane 3 + fighting with 4 gen planes - and count almost equal ;) !!!
No jo sestrih od FASTFREDDYho, ktery tu mel celou sbirku velice sledovanych videi, nez odesel, pac mu zrusili ucet a nechtelo se mu roky prace znovu nahravat. Ty videa s temito Migy-23 byly puvodne 2, ale on to spojil a madarrr88 je akorat uploadoval. Jinak by vedel, ze je to Scorpions-Still loving you a Scorpions-Coming Home.
Ano,akorat sem to uploadoval,nejaky problem? Celkem zbytecny prispevek,myslim ze to video je lepsi ukazat svetu nez aby hnilo nekde v PC,ja si na to video nacinim zadny naroky,pouze ho ukazuji,tak nechapu smysl tveho prispevku ale asi nemas nic jineho na praci ze nez otravovat zbytecnymi poznamkami.
Ono, MiG-21 měly životnost 30 let a byly dodány do 1975 - vyřazeny 2005. MiG-23 byly mnohem náchylnější, měly jen 20 let a 1000 letových hodin. Takže ikdyž přišly po 21čkách, vyřadili je dřív. Dala se prej dělat generálka v Německu a šlo to protáhnout, jak pro 23 tak pro 21, ale ekonomicky by se to nevyplatilo. Prej.
No, no, no. don't build these Czech MiG 23's to be something they are not. Not my opinion, it seems to be the opinion of every Russian and Communists yearning for the "good old days". Everytime I point out how the MiG 23/25/29 have had poor showings in battle, they use the "export" castrated aircraft argument on me. These are Czech "export" models so they can't be any good. USAF Test pilots in Nevada hated the MiG-23, didn't want to even fly it. MiG-23 loses either way.
