Mike Holmes on Radon 

LOL !!

So that was the cause of her death.

In some area's we cannot use the leaky down spout pipe! Must be schedule 40 all the way 1 foot above the roof line

250 for the test, $165 for the fan and pvc install...$2000 knowing where to install it lol ha..great deal 🤔seems a tid bit 🐟'y

Gotta remember couple things; you walk around absorbing limited amounts everyday, no matter where you are; geographically, some areas have more than others; those who spend more time living/working within a cavity will be affected more than those who don't, whatever effect that has, noticeable or not; humanity has been living with this and other hazards since long before being a wet dream; oh, and never forget, there's only one thing you were born to do, we all walk through that door one day so why worry about the little things.... just remember to look both ways before crossing intersections~! Just an opinion from a two time Cancer survivor. And if I can remember something from Monty Python, "Always look on the bright side of life..." Cheers!

Radon testing always comes up if you read your purchase contracts or do a lick of research into buying a home. If you decide not to even ask what it's for, is it anyone else's fault that the buyer suffers for it?

Because it's not necessary.

I was actually coming here to read for this very thing and question it. I understand they're in CA. But seems like they'rd be some type of uniform remediation rules. I took notice the indoor fan and dumping of gases right outside home not above roofline as here in the US.

They dumped the bad air right between the minisplit and the a/c unit , aren't those sucking up the dirty air?

@@johnrichjr.415 minisplit and A/C unis do no pull any air in the house, they move heat from one area to another with compressed gasses, there is no exchange of air into the dwelling.

You can see old people who still smoke too. Just because they beat the odds does not mean that other people might.

ohio guy Who wants to live to a hundred? I don't, if that means giving up more freedom and not living a full life. Screw that, tea sipping snoozers can go run into their bunker and die of fear.

you are ridiculous

BlingBling, If one can live to be 100 without cancer or other debilitating diseases (and I have known some centenarians who did) then why not?

Your a dumb ass

Well, it sure is a constant. What else are some sources?

@@djt7387 water from a well

+Mike Brunger "Certified" (By who?) TRUE and if the puck was sitting on a vinyl powder coated desk top, the numbers will be easily that high. P.S. I will be doing a video on this using a Styrofoam plate.

Experience + knowledge + overhead + warranties...

@@e-h8151 people don’t understand that businesses are looking for profit... it’s a business! They have bills and want to grow as well, they charge what they feel like is worth their time.

@@nehnehnehbatman why would any business do anything for cost, why don’t people understand this, it’s like if the business makes any profit then it’s a scam. I’m a painting contractor and hate it when someone calls for estimate and wants to get it done for $100 over the cost of paint.

You actually have to pay for my experience and certifications and insurance. I can tell you what the company did was very dangerous

You should easily be able to accomplish this for under $500, and that's if you buy into this whole thing.

You're sucking the money out of your wallet at the same time, surprised there's no monthly subscription fee.

Nice.

The tee installation is actually correct, this is the same setup as a plumbing vent. I too wondered if the termination should be higher though, makes sense it would be concentrate and more dangerous right there.

The fan location IS NOT OK!!! Go to EPA.gov/radon.

and they made a 'U' with the crawl space pipe.

Mike S Even though, as a Canadian, I agree with the chimney standards that are used in the United States, the fan being outside in Canadian climates seems stupid. Also, putting a switch between the circuit breaker and the fan is a very bad idea as it is meant to run 24/7. If someone turns the switch off, that defeats the purpose of the device.

Canadian codes are not US codes. They allow and normally do install the blower in the basement.

@@longshot726 I mentioned the codes as a reference but it is common sense and they are a good explanation of why is so absurd to have the fan inside of the livable area in case the fan start leaking and pushing a huge amount of radon inside of the house at once.

Bobby Ross in the US it needs to be vented above your highest soffit, this is preventing reentry into the home.

no AC is perfectly sealed in window - so, why seal tightly in basement and discharge radon to air conditioner window (to right in video) - defies logic

Tsang's also most houses are required to be built with at least a passive system already in place. So if a new home does test High all the homeowner has to do is put in the fan and it's taken care of. It adds about $200 on the cost of building a new home. It's a lot easier to just do it when it's being built that way you don't see it or have the expense after the fact. And when you go to sell your home it's one less thing to deal with.

Tsang, the EPA has set up standards, which at least some states and municipalities have used for housing regulations and building codes.

Because contractor organizations don't want to pass on the additional expense. Lobbyists....

***** . No. You are incorrect. As a 32 year veteran physics teacher who followed the original studies, I can confidently say, we are being duped. The original studies were of coal miners. Workers who all smoked. Workers who spent 10, 12 or even 14 hours a day thousands of feet below the surface. There is no proven science of radon and cancer my friend. There is NO proven link between cancer and radon. Period.

And how do you prove a case of lung cancer in a nonsmoker is Radon related? Just because what else could it be, I suppose? Good science.

Brad Weber Yep. This is what I have been reading as well. For anyone looking at getting mitigation, look at that unit. It's enormous. The pipe is 4.5" in diameter with a 4" hole, IIRC. The fan runs 24/7/365. It is noisy. If you have it near your living space you'll never get rid of the sound. And if you don't put the fan in the basement, you have a monstrosity on the exterior of your home. The pipe has to have bends in it as well and it has to push the air away from the home, so the stack of pipe on the outside, even with a fan inside your home is going to be an eye sore. And you will hear the sound of rushing air outside as well. My advice is consider how much time you're spending in your home. If you are retired, on disability, etc. and are home practically all day and rarely go anywhere...and your levels are high...worth consideration. Otherwise, think long and hard about your decision to get one of these. And at least do what they suggest here; test for 90 days or more. In Canada, they test for 3 months, 6 months or even a year is recommended because levels of radon fluctuate so much over time. And even then, it is questionable whether the tools get accurate readings. But at least you're not taking one reading on the day of a home inspection and installing a $1000 piece of equipment you don't need that is noisy and will deter future home buyers from considering your home.

Ashley, did you ever measure the radon/radiation in common foods? A potato has 500 picocuries of radiation. A banana typically has 500. There are countless items in our environment that have these tiny amounts of radiation but because they discovered radon in the air that comes from the decay of uranium, everyone seems to hit the panic button. And to show how inconsistent the EPA is, the EPA says to take action above 4 pc but if you are in a workplace they say it's ok to be exposed to 100 picocuries. Their numbers are politically motivated and not based on science. Unbiased science would show the other items in the typical environment and show a comparison. The EPA reports don't do that!

Brad Weber, I'm sure glad you don't ever have to do any diagnosis on me and my family. Because of your obvious lack of knowledge and understanding of the scientific community. Please tell me you work at a free clinic dealing with stds.

Around $30 on Amazon for a homeowner test kit with lab results. Follow the instructions for test thoroughly.

Yea, for a 2nd fee of $250.00 Some people are too easy to steal from. Sad world.

@@gregbaugher333 Ya 91 days is way overkill. And $250 for a test is a ripoff. Many places do them for free now.

@@dcast777 or just buy an Airthings Wave for that much and you can continuously monitor.

kurlis it can be vented thru the roof. On ask this old house this is what they did, they had the fan up in the attic

ab30494 is the video on youtube?

Yes, definitely different than in the US. I do believe the 3 pipes to the right are, gas-fired water heater exhaust, and intake/exhaust for gas furnace. And the A/C compressor and condenser coil outside shouldn't be effected by the radon.... the air in the central A/C never goes inside from here. But, exhausting the radon near/below windows is not too good.

@@PatrickWagz In the US it MUST dischage above the roof

Contact a C-NRPP or NRPP professional bud

"stitching' is used to connect the concrete field

That means the material under the slab does not allow for air to move freely. Purchase a continuous radon monitor to monitor the system's effectiveness.

it should be .5 "- 1.5"

add "stitching" throughout the basement slab

Fay Ryuujin yeah but this install was done in Canada where it's not regulated as it is here in the US. There are multiple serious problems with this install, the crawl space should have been covered with heavy plastic and sealed around the edges, the fan is in the basement which cannot be in any living area in a home either the Attic or mounted on the outside of the home are the only options. And vented above the highest sauffit by 18 inches.

Just finished my measurement and mitigation exam, and notice the same things. I always thought Mike Holmes was very thorough. But your right. There are at least three issues with this installation, in just the 5 minutes we watched.

@@timcorbett2359 CANADA. The EPA does not govern Radon mitigation systems in Canada.

My thoughts as well. If the coupler comes loose and leaks then you are now introducing radon at a higher than normal rate without the system. Plus they vented low. I know this is in Canada and in the states regulations are all different per state but I thought going above the eaves was important to not reintroduce it into the house.

+slick 2501 Not true.

***** You made the claim back it up by stating the regulation. And when you make one up, I will send the link proving your wrong.

A worm ring wont just loosen up. And if you watched the video you would have seen they installed manometer to detect leaks/problems

We allow a furnace inside the basement why not a radon fan. Plus I’ve seen fans get destroyed by the elements from outside, the cold, bugs, dust, rain, etc

Chuck woof New homes have it roughed in.. only add fans if the level is high.

There are several things besides that that are wrong with the system, the fan is in the living space, the crawl space should be covered with heavy plastic and sealed around the edges, it is exhausted right outside the house, when it should be vented above the highest sauffit on the house.

Definitely not to epa guidelines

You guys do realize this is Canada right? I'm guessing the protocols are different there. Even in the US the radon mitigation protocols differ from state to state.

How do you paid attention that T is from the crawl space they connected it to one system instead of having multiple systems.

First I would like to state that I am not an expert, but it worries me that the exhaust is right next to what looks like an air con or a furnace

Blowing right into the AC unit. LOL

@@tufaznail You know that central air conditioning systems work differently than window or portable units right? The condenser unit outside has nothing to do with indoor air going through the air handler (furnace).

flimflam the air in the ac doesn’t go in the house.... c’mon

My thoughts as well

It most definitely can, it can also be run in ABS

+Mike Brunger enough already. shhh

+Mike Brunger I agree...they make people panic and folks probably breath more toxic crap walking down a city sidewalk

@@kathyweigelhi-lophotovideo2984 It's ionized radiation you moron... Go look that up and you'll see just how dumb you sound.

you are correct the exhaust or vent needs to be a minimun 10 feet from any window or exhaust above roof level. also the Radon fan must be installed outside, but it can also be installed in an attic and a garage as long as there is no living level above the garage

If I am not mistaken, this install was done in Canada where the rules are different. Health Canada has set different guidelines, such as fans inside the envelope and venting lower than the roofline.

Stefanie Coleman-Dias Yupp, we also have a better electrical system and better nuclear power plants, but this installation confuses me where the radon goes out the side instead of above. Then again a lot of high efficiency furnaces vent out of the side of the house instead of the top too.

By going out the top I assume you mean going through the roof? My best guess re the install in this video would be: Because this install was completed in an existing house, it is likely there was no roughin pipe installed through the roof. Therefore instead of having to affect the main floor/second floor of house installing a chase/ducting etc, going out the rim/belt of the house would be the simplest and least intrusive install. This is considered acceptable in the Canadian training courses. There are rules for where the venting is located so that you dont have it near a fresh air intake, gas meters, etc.

Thats nuts. I just read 2.0 - 4.0 is where you should consider mitigation.

@@LucifersDeathSquad They think it's safe since no one has died living there 25 years.

@@scotta9114 - I was reading there is no exact science behind it. Some people could be exposed to it 30 years and be ok and some people could be exposed to it 1 year and develop an extremely aggressive lung cancer and die. So maybe you will be the first one to die from it. Maybe you will be their martyr . Good luck sir.

@@LucifersDeathSquad Glad we were just visiting. A week of dangerous air was enough.

@@scotta9114 one week is not going to hurt you. Radon is a carcinogen and requires prolonged exposure to do any real harm. Think of it like smoking cigarettes. Obviously they aren't good for you, but smoking for a week isn't going to cause someone to get lung cancer. However, your sister should definitely get a mitigation system, bc they are being exposed for long periods. Lung cancer is nothing to mess with.

It was cheap. 20 feet of pipe a fan and a days labour. 78 thousand

Why?

And the water heater!!

@@justayoutuber1906 that's the exhaust of the WH not make up/combustion air. There's no risk of it to the AC either as it works via compressed gasses and does not move air from one area to another.

They showed in writing near the end of the video that the final reading was 27 Bq/m3

Where are you located? Or did you get the problem resolved?

start over, from scratch, lick your finacial wounds and trudge forward. Sorry

Wasn't mike that did the install but you're 100% right - no primer. I'm betting they're not worried about leaks because it's not liquid that would show up before they got the check cashed.

one step pvc glue is a real thing and doesn't require primer

You are correct - it does have to discharge above the roof line but not as high as the ridge line. It can discharge 6" above an eve line per AARST national specs.

@@BrunoVassel this is in Canada, not the US.

I had no idea the rules were so different between the two countries. Sure would be easier to install fans inside and discharge at ground level if we were allowed. Cheers.

I guess in Canada, that's is the way they are able to do it??

In canada we have cold temperatures so we can't do that. In Manitoba we had our system all installed in our basement and vented right out of a normal dryer vent on the side of the house so it looks no different from a normal vent which is cool

The proper termination for the vent is above the highest eve of the building. This is so the gasses cannot be reintroduced into the building by an open window,bath fan etc should a negative pressure exist inside the home..

No

That was the song on the radio: "Radon Love"

Just don't put the fan in the basement - it won't pass code.

@@justayoutuber1906 Depends on location.

Its worth it if you DONT own the house and are buying it... we paid 150$ for it during the house inspection on a house were buying.. How else would we get it tested if we dont live there

I've owned one for 6 months or so. I don't belong to their company or anything. I'm very impressed. I left it in basement for months. My reading is 6 times the safe limit . I brought it upstairs. The reading dropped but picked up when I ran fans all day. Took it out to the garage for a day near an open window. The day rate dropped to 0.2. Today, I put it just next to my sump pit hole cracking it open. The reading came back over 50 times recommended safe limit!. So, I know the unit is responsive to real conditions. Moving it around allows you to figure out what is going on and where. Don'e use a simple kit. I can see know that would be somewhat worthless. I highly recommend Airthings..somewhat expensive...but if you are serious or worried - definitely

@@danmichael9629 Thanks for the reply my brother in law just bought one two weeks ago and it seems to do a good job its vary accurate with the temperature and humidity so i assume its accurate with radon. I ordered the wave plus in July and it should finally be here by tomorrow so i look vary forward to setting it up and getting readings.

@@ryangsxr1300 hi, any update on your Radon detector meter? thanks!

@@PatrickWagz yes Paul i got my wave plus about two years ago. For the first year probably the app wasn't vary good kept on losing readings and not working vary good. Airthings has fixed all the bugs it seems with the app and now I'm getting all the proper readings so i am happy with it. I notice that in the winter the radon levels go up and when we have warm winter days it seems to go up even more.

@@ryangsxr1300 Ok, thank you for the reply. Can I ask what part of the world in are in? And, what types of reading levels you typically get? Are the readings high enough to install a Radon mitigation system? Thanks again.

Get it installed outside like where ot should be

It's called 'recycling'... d'uh! 🙂

It won't have any impact on the AC unit as they do not move air, but rather heat via compressed gas.

any plumbing/hvac wholesaler will carrty it. It can be run in ABS as well.

It is called over kill