Mike Mangini (Dream Theater) - drumtalk [episode 22] 

You lucky little... I really want to meet that guy. im going to a show in march

I bet he’s phenomenal to learn from! Seems like he has the patience of jobe.

@@unclemonster48 yeah patience is the most important for a any teacher

He really is inspirational in an infectious way, isn't he! LOL

thanks mate! really appretiate!!

Yeah! And treating a drummer like a musician!

Yep. I love Prog Metal Bands and Stuff like Dream Theater and even sometimes I love simple music like Ed Sheeran or Woodkid. In Germany there are many Jazz workshops especially for drums and I took part and Everyone said that i have to be open to other music styles. Today after playing the drums for 10 years I'am able to play styles from Jazz, to Funk, Latin and Metal. But the people who said this to me, the people that said that my music is not enough to learn from can play just Jazz.... Did they open for some metal beats? I listen even to classic music like Bach. I love every Style of music if it comes from the heart. The only thing I hate is when music becomes commercial shit that is written without soul.

BuddhistDrummer yeah I agree, I've noticed that "siding" in the drumming world, people should just respect everyone's taste 👍

Yes! This is how people should live life. What he said basically applies to all social situations and all people, Mike 4 prez!

Being honest, high level swing really takes a tremendous amount of skill and anything those drummers can do, they can pretty much do in the metal scene. The skills a solid jazz drummer can pull off is just levels above. However, mikes message is true about respect, and i will also reiterate, a lot of people call them selves jazz drummers because they can play a bit of swing or have laid down a few tracks, they are not true jazz musicians in my opinion, and the same for most people who play multi styles. Not often do you get someone who can play high level in different genres, even guys like Vinnie C could not play good swing music to save their lives, so i think sometimes certain purists blow shit out of proportion.

Words right out of my mouth, man. Props to you for following your musical instinct!

You playing with Toto was also a good thing. Well played in Sweden!

@@erikondrums😂 Thanks!

I am not a fan of dream theater to be biased by anything related to them. But the more I hear Mike Mancini talk, the more I relate to him. I saw one interview where portnoy said the music was becoming stale at times. And Petrucci looked at him like, what the fuck? Mancinii knows that the music is what you make it.

Peart is a street musician in comparison. But that's beside the point. It's a shame how badly Mangini is newsted'ed. Poor mixing and editing and soulless tone is result of someone else. That Annihilator speed snare doesn't work with DT.

I actually have a reasoning, why i do not particularely like Mangini in DT. He is technical, talented and INSANELY fast, but sterile. Not always and to be fair and honest, the new album finally shows, what he can do here imho, but compared to what he is capable of and what he actually did so far, there has been more "meh", than "This is great!" for me and this "Meh!"-feeling is so much amplified by the knowledge, what Mangini is capable of, but doesn't do. And here is where the definition of "Drum Master" comes into play for me. A "Drum Master", or legendary drummer, isn't defined by his talent, or skill. There are a lot of drummers out there, i would consider legendary, where a lot of people would be like "This guy? Everyone can play that! Mangini is far more skilled, than him!". 1.) If everyone can play it, then why does it sound garbage in 90% of the cases? 2.) Everyone may be able to play it...but only a handful of drummers are able to COME UP WITH IT and THAT is what defines a legend! You can be skilled and talented as hell. You can play fast as lightening, or do some insane timing-tricks...all that doesn't matter, if it still sounds boring! And for the record: I don't just think, that Mangini sounded sterile, i also think, that the other members of DT lost some creativity.

@@IncapableLP yes he is very skilled .. no one can even him..... bt reality is he is boring as hell.. im not a DT or MP fan but ortnoy is more fun watching doing solo

Why are none DT fans here lmao.

thank you Andrés!

cool!

An annihilator reference?

yees please tell us

tell me now please

A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell

did u kiss mike mangini?

Lol. You guys are funny. His advice to me is kinda secret. I haven't told anyone. If I make it big, I'll let all know ;)

awesome! I absolutely learned a lot too doing and editing this interview

thank you very much

you're welcome sir!

thank you so much!! however, there is an interview with Devin Townsend on my channel who can do everything but play the drums :-)

I think he was a teacher or professor before he joined Dream Theater ;D

Oddly enough, he was a professor at exact college that John Petrucci, Mike Portnoy, and John Myung were attending in 1985. That's where those 3 met and formed the group that would become Dream Theater.

He IS a Fantastic teacher.

He was an amazing teacher to me. Many lessons were deep conversations like this. Philosophy behind what he was teaching me.

my pleasure! :-)

you're welcome! thanks for stopping by

thanks! glad you got something out of it

thanks man! I always prepare myself to have good questions -- the rest is about chemistry, schedule, location etc. here everything was in sync :-)

agreed. man I would love to sit down and pick his brain. What a guy to talk to.

you're welcome!

thanks a lot

Are you sure? Jojo Mayer can play 240 bpm with one foot using his power slide technique.

cool! now watch the others and then go and graduate big time :-)

drumtalk lol will do

thank u bruce

my pleasure! agree 100%!