Mike Rowe reminds us the labour shortage is only getting worse 

I'm a nurse that can sew, do masonry, woodworker, upholstery, gardening, small carpentry jobs and lots of other jobs. I've saved so much money doing things myself. My father taught me a lot and a few things I learned by trial and error. It's good to know how to do things not only as a primary job but to be able to do things for yourself.

The biggest factor driving the labor shortage in the construction trade down south is the refusal of many contractors to pay decent wages. $15 an hour for a job that expects you to supply and maintain your own work vehicle and thousands of dollars worth of your own tools and equipment while the boss makes six figures and doesn’t even show up everyday is insane.

I have been in construction for 30 years, there is not a shortage of workers, the problem is the pay is too low for this work.

Ok, you guys can't keep beating the same old drum. UNTIL WAGES RISE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SHORTAGE!

The biggest problem with tradework is dealing with the boss's losers kids and relatives who always have a job, and the 'outsiders' on the crew are expected to clean up after them.

I'm 27 and ive been in many different construction trades and I can tell you it's the work condition and the pay that makes me no longer want to do it. also older contractors treat their apprentinces with no respect, and people look down on you when they find out you're in construction.

When I was in engineering school I took a machine shop course and I found more value in that than the actual engineering classes. Making things gave me insight into how the real world works. Something I couldn't get from a book.

Many years ago, I had a discussion with a doctor regarding his teenage son. Dad wanted him to be an attorney or doctor. His son thought he wanted to build homes. Dad arranged for his son to work with a builder friend of his over several summers, exposing the son foundation construction, laying block, framing, electrical, plumbing, etc. His son did become a builder however, if dad hadn't taken the time to expose him to the work at the age of 13-17, I don't think the son would've had the tools early enough in life. Never forgot this discussion.

It's a sad place here in America. A great many people don't recognize how important the trades are and how much skill needs to be learned/ taught so that we can continue to be a successful country.

Europe pays their tradesmen extremely well. You can’t just say we need motivated kids in the trades and not pay them. I wonder if construction companies will do ESOP’s more to attract workers. Gone are the days of underpaying your workers. If you want workers you have to pay em enough to live. People won’t work construction and a second job after that labor intensive day.

Part of the problem was that many of the trades didn't pay well and you could go months or years without work depending on the economy. There were more people than jobs. Now that many of those people have retired and demand has gone up as well the script has flipped. Not enough workers, well paid, and short bits of unemployment in-between jobs.

The trades have worse pay, worse working conditions, worse benefits, and less vacation time than any office job or in air conditioning job. I have done both if you have any self respect dont go into the trades, they dont respect you and do not deserve you

McDonalds pay 15 dollars an hour, Trades pay 15 dollars an hour in hard environment. I wonder why no one goes into trades.

When I was in high school (1990), you had to take a basic shop class prior to mechanical drafting. You had to take mechanical drafting to be accepted into the building trades class. The building trade class built a house from footings to lightbulbs. They sold the house, and those funds funded the next year’s build. I took shop. I took mechanical drafting. I was admitted to the BT class. We sat for a week in that class doing nothing, wondering where the teacher was and what was going on. Finally someone poked their head in the door and said the Building Trades program had been discontinued. Everyone needed to replace it with 4 credit hours. Later we found out the school had taken the money from the sale of last years’ house and used it to fund the band’s new uniforms and instruments. The teacher resigned in a rage. We were beyond pissed off. The school dropped all shop classes a few years later. Now there is no vocational training offered at all. Hasn’t been any for 20+ years.

Im a truck driver the goverment and all companies say we are unskilled labor just so they can pay use less then we are worth. 12 to 14 hours NO overtime even for hazardous freight. Same thing is happening with ship yards and rail works. No work from home when Covid came around. Let the money at the top of all companies get down to the guy bushing a broom we all know what happens when the toilet dose not work. Money money money pay people.

I think another major problem with the skilled trades are the employers themselves. All employers care about now is experience. No one is willing to take a young kid who knows nothing, and train them up. I’ve looked at skilled trade jobs, and even the lowest jobs like laborer or carpenter assistant positions require one year plus experience. Well, how are they supposed to get experience if no one will hire them because they don’t have experience!

Most builders don’t give a crap about quality work they want it done and in the quickest fastest timeframe to move on from one project to the next! That’s why they all have callbacks after all houses sold because of all the mistakes that were made because nobody’s in charge of quality control at building a home! There are a few builders out there that are the exception to this rule but they’re far and few between only the ones have been bitten in the butt over and over and over again finally come to the realization that they need to have some quality control put it to building their homes that’s maybe 10 out of very of 100 builders

I have been in the trades for over 20 years and now I feel completely broke down and also have very little to show for it.

If there is a shortage then wages should be going up. Wages climb until the job is filled or the company closes. Here in the San Francisco bay area they want to pay trained line cooks $17-22 an hour. That's absurd.

As a handyman and now a resident manager, I have never gone hungry. My services are always in demand. Provide quality and fair prices and you will always have repeat clients.

Mike Rowe only played a tradesmen on TV. he's a TV host with a degree in communications. Wearing a blue shirt doesnt make you blue collar. He does advocate for trades though.

There is no shortage of tradesmen. We are all just doing things that make more money. Trades are dead. They paid better in the 90's. When the money was worth more. Don't worry, the border is open and there are plenty of minimum wage workers coming though.

I busted my butt and got licensed as a remodeling contractor, one customer ran into money problems and couldn't fund the materials anymore, he filed a complaint against me, lied his butt off and I lost my license for not finishing the contract. Now I'm going to put that customer in prison for perjury. And file lawsuits against the state and ROC

Great interview. From my perspective, to stay with a job, one has to learn the importance of finishing a job. I grew up on a 50×100 foot lot that had a house on it. A quarter of the back yard was garden. My grandparents garden was even bigger. My brothers and sister had to help out with keeping the house in order and looking after the yard and garden. My grandfather stressed to me to always finish the job that you are working on. I think this is one of the most important lessons we can teach our kids.

Loved that conversation! Definitely appreciate all that both of you are doing to get things back on track. I agree that it needs to start early. When I was in 6th grade they had a day where you could pick a trade and work with them for a day, it was a huge impact in my life, I remember it like it was yesterday!

I love the trades. Was in it for years and I’m now a project manager for a construction company but people do need to relieve that trades are hard on your body and dangerous. I poured concrete for years and for every year I work it felt like I took 2 off my life.

I do anesthesia for a living, but I grew up learning how to weld, wood work, plumb, rebuild an engine, drive a tractor, etc. I feel sorry for today's kids that won't have that experience.

Great conversation! I have been working in the industry overseas since 2010 witnessing from Australia, Switzerland or Singapore to Myanmar or Central Asia and can tell that the problem with skills and commitment is getting lost generationally everywhere and I agree: the difference in the way it is approached in a holistic level in some countries and you can really sense it.

Ask any why they’ve left the trades? Bad leadership. Sure, it’s all sweet in the beginning, but they slowly see what they can get away with. From paying late to allowing yourself to be their punching bag, bad employers are to blame. Most guys who’ve been in trades over twenty years without going on their own have horror stories. Some bosses try to make up for crackhead employees by taking advantage of their loyal workers. Loyalty can be taken away as quickly as it’s given and honestly, the worker suffers until they find a good boss, or switches careers. Many want to misclassify workers as ten 99, but then wait two weeks for a check, or when the customer pays (sometimes workers are told they weren’t paid and wonder why workers won’t stay) some have found it better to bounce around as day laborers. Generally, the contractor is humbled by the point they don’t have regular guys and thankful for a solid day laborer showing up with their own hand tools, let alone one showing up with power tools.

When folks stopped working and quitting jobs at massive rate my welding business exploded. Even started doing small forestry and custom land services work .

I've been an automotive technician since 1996 and what I've experienced throughout the years is everything from bad management to bad work life balance to bad pay and it wasn't Ike this until around 2009 when this less is better mentality kicked in and these young folk now do not put up with any of that. You're not going to work them 55 hours a week for $11 an hour and require them to work every weekend and most holidays while dealing with a toxic work environment, they'll walk out during the busiest part of the day. These trades aren't attractive to young people because they feel it's not worth their time especially when they can get a work from home job paying $22 an hour

It comes from the arrogance of the elites in Academia and Hollywood. Trades work became a dirty word by their standards. Made fun of and used as the “dolts” and “losers” in society . It still is today. As much now as ever. Changing that stigma and condescending attitude is crucial and sadly an uphill battle.

Great interview. I see so much difference in kids back when I was young and now. Dads use to take their children out with them to say fix the car. The kids were excited that dad wanted their help. Dad was excited to teach the kids how to do the repairs. And most of the time they enjoyed just being together. Now kids want the play their video games. Dads don’t either have the time to teach what he is doing or takes the car into the repair shop to have it fixed. They are so stressed by their jobs they don’t have the patients to deal with teaching the kids. Or arguing with them to stop playing their games and come help. I see it in my own grandkids. If they have to do a chore they hurry up and do it so bad to get back to their video games. I blame a lot on these video games being used as babysitters when their kids are little so buy the time they are old enough to learn the trades they are so addicted to video games they don’t want to learn what the dad wants to teach them. It is a mess and we are loosing the kids interest in anything but video games. I respect the parents who limit the time kids can play these games or not have the games at all. Also I was told when teaching my son how to cook I was going to make a sissy out of him. But he wanted to cook and needed to learn to be able live in his own.

Come to Cleveland, OH. You will be Impressed by the abundance of skilled workers.

Mike Rowe is an actor hired by lobbyists

English carpenter - I’ve lived in the US for ~8ys. I’ve had this exact conversation a hundred times with other trades, suppliers and local officials. The most telling stories have come from former shop class teachers. These are some of their points. Education today is about ‘putting into’ not ‘extracting’ from people. How many dates and facts can you remember and can you pass the test. vs. cultivating and kindling a genuine interest, similar to that what Nick mentioned about his kids and the trucks. Then, as Mike mentions with his mobile, he has access to all that information if and when he needs it. Technical trades vs craft trades. Plumbing, HVAC, Electrical Vs. Carpentry, masonry, tile setting. The craft trades have a long, slow, painful learning curve. In the age of instant - you’re not going to sit down and play concert level piano on day one, just like you’re not going to build a grain matched walnut cabinet bank on day one. If this isn’t explained, it’s easy for people become disheartened. Why was shop class taken out of schools? As mentioned; funding, yes. Academia started to get involved. They wanted pass/fail results. Minimum class size and pre-requests to admittance. The craft trades, (I speak primarily as a carpenter) are a spectrum. There’s guys that make $20 and there’s guys that make $90. They’re both carpenters. Different skill sets. Down the rabbit hole for the next one - Have you ever heard the phrase, “Everyone singing from the same hymn sheet”? What do you think the work University means? Uni-verse/ one song. Mike has covered the “work smarter not harder” campaign ad-nauseam. University, is designed to trap you and produce more obedient debt slaves for the system. You can’t do that with the trades, you’re self reliant. No shop class - one path for everybody. Indoctrinate and entrap. Europe vs the US. Europe has huge amounts of historical landmarks and cultural heritage sites. The trades are essential for maintaining and preserving them. Outside of the east and west coasts, America doesn’t have these. The economy doesn’t ask for quality, it asks for productivity. Nick - there’s a bunch more, I’m happy to fill an empty spot on your podcast. I could talk about it all day. I do believe there are solutions but it will be up to the trades to fix it. The PR people can’t get us out of this. Cheers!

I spent 15 years in the white collar world and one of my biggest pet peeves was IT instructions. These people that write instructions on how to work or troubleshoot IT problems should be required to take a Technical Writing course because they 'assume' so much when they list instructions.

As carpenters, we shouldn’t care about labour shortage. Clients should care and they don’t seem to care. Why so much efforts from blue collars to combat labour shortage ? We’re shooting ourselves in the foot. Let us do our jobs as usual and let the people who would benefit from an aboundance of cheap blue collars labour deal with it. Through financing training with tax money and enrolling their own kids into the trade. But we all know they won’t do either...

Best 41 minutes of my day. You both were great. Keep this going! We need it.

This was a beautiful interaction! Nick, your philosophy and approach is inspirational. Keep up the amazing work you are doing!

I have been doing concrete since 2008. The issue is the low pay. I was making $25hr as a Journeyman back in Ohio. Fast forward to today and the union scale is only $32hr in Colorado where the living costs are higher. In reality the scale should be $50hr. But they gave us little $1hr raises every until 2025, then no more raises until it's negotiated. And non-union companies pay even less, because workers keep taking those jobs. If you can't pay your workers at least $50hr when you are making millions you don't deserve a business. You are contributing to the downfall of the country. You will end up with lower skilled tradesmen resulting in weaker infrastructure. But since executives love their money nothing will change. This country is an Oligarchy, controlled by the rich. Demanding everything from the workers and giving them crumbs.

Such a pleasure to consume this. Mike Rowe's outlook is so good.

Also, I graduated from Marblehead High School in 1983. I took Technical Drawing….LOVED it!! My dad was a naval architect, among many other things, and I yearned to learn tech drawing bc I watched him as a little girl. In middle school, we had “wood shop”…..that was amazing too! What a SHAME, to discover that these VERY essential programs have been phases out…I had no idea and am, frankly, VERY DISAPPOINTED and heart broken. Women, especially need exposure to these programs….now more than ever. Thanks for the great discussion!

Excellent convo. Great questions, and I always love listening to Mike.

Fantastic conversation, appreciate what you both are doing!

I agree 100% with you on this. While yes, it is critical to get young people interested in the trades, no one has mentioned the possibility of people in their 50’s and 60’s, who are nearing “retirement” in a particular field that want to continue to work but in a new field that they are interested in. How does this happen? When I was growing up, I wanted to be a mechanic. My father would have nothing to do with it. He said I was going to college and then I was going to get a “better job”. In those days,mechanics were referred to as grease monkeys. Needed but not as well respected as a “white collar” job. Now, at 63, I’ve built a shop to do work in, and over the years I’ve learned a number of things I can do well. However, I have no formal training and know that I need some in particular areas. How does someone like myself, go about gaining and learning that type of information?

‘’It’s not blue collar or white collar ‘’ love this. I’m studying building engineering and recently got a job as an carpenter apprentice. I love both!

WOW! SO glad that I tuned in to the show!

Great conversation!

Great podcast I’m older than dirt educated and still love to build-remodel WITH integrity no damn shortcuts.!!!!

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts !

Just listened to this awesome conversation on Spotify. So many real points!

Last year my 17 year old son wanted to earn some money and asked his dad to teach him simple window repair stuff and handyman skills. He found companies desperate for workers to fix window issues and now works independently for 4 lumber yards and a few home builders. We live in an area will a huge housing boom so work was easy for him to find and. He started part time in Feb and quickly went to full time and will probably earn six figures by the end of the year. He works all day 6 days a week and can earn 500-1,000 a day just doing window reglazes and simple stuff. There’s no way he would ever go to college now lol. He enjoys being his own boss and doing man’s work

Great conversation.

Great conversation! Two of my favorites! “Slow and expensive”…great comment!

I really respect not beating the subs down on price. It builds loyalty especially when you only use them a few times a year

The issue with the trades, pilots, and similar jobs is the general opaqueness to obtaining the job and the training, or job might rely too heavily on the employee to train themselves. For me atleast, it'll hard to convince a small town boy with no additional resources to move 300 to 500 miles for training. College is so much easier and job requirements are soo transparent.

Inspiring convo, fellas!

They Always talk about trade labor shortages but never talk about why. PAY!! NO BODY wants to pay from Corp America down to the homeowner, especially the homeowners. They will have 3k in car payments in the driveway and feel if you have 1 decent looking truck your charging and making too much. Dealt with it for 12 years you can have it. And I built the highest quality decks in the State. And don't forget who we compete against, The no license no insurance no WC, guys that bid the jobs for half.

You got him! Nice work!

what a great dialogue

Love the video Mike👍

Loved this dialogue with Mike. He paints the truth boldly. Parents are failing their children when they don't teach them work is.

Two legends!

It's refreshing to hear your thoughts on the issue. I'm 72 years old. Rebutting her rant, I told my fifth grade teacher that everyone did NOT need to go to college as she had so strenuously stated. She was incensed that I would have the audacity to challenge her position. But I persisted, stating that society would need plumbers, mechanics, etc. That did not end well. She was merely a product of her environment; namely the teachers union, which even in that early time, actively told students that they MUST stay in school. I was self employed for forty years in the waterjetting industry, making things work. That teacher's progeny is what we are now saddled with.

When I was a kid I would watch there goes a bulldozer everyday. Got into the field and after 5 years the pay wasn’t enough unless I worked 60-70 hours in the summer. Leadership was good at the foreman level but from supers up to the office level was awful. They have to get more trade schools. The older generation won’t teach the young anything.

That was awesome.

Pay us existing electricians more and the trades will become attractive . I would not recommend this line of work that I have been doing for 30 years to young people till people start to look and treat us better.

This is when you jump ship every year to maximize your wages. Loyalty does not pay!

Work ethic and never stop learning/growing. Those helped me excel in my career.

Sharon, there's few things more satisfying than multitasking,a job well done.

I have to wonder what the quality used to be of the Cherokee brand of sweatshirt at Target. But I bought that shirt about 26 years ago and wore it almost daily through all my pregnancies. 3 Girls, one got married. They borrowed the heck out of that thing. Finally traded it for a sweater I really wanted (that I somehow got taken away from me as well lol) and now they use it like currency to trade for whatever coveted item one or the other has in their wardrobe, but has settled with my middle girl and no one has succeeded in getting it from her. She says it’s now a family heirloom that will be included in her will. Too bad Target stopped with that line.

The apprenticeship is like that in the UK age around 15-16 age, do a day at college and 4 at work on site. This is what I did in 1996. A great way too learn the details and skills, the wages I got was £40.00 a week for 4 years which isn’t good at all and that is why people aren’t doing apprenticeship much I think. Or just start work with the wrong style company and pick up bad habits, thinking it’s the correct way. This is why quality, and people to do the work is dropping, as a lot of comments say other ways too make quick money. Standards are also way too rushed and quality is terrible, some just don’t worry or care.

The problem is that engineers don't have to work on the things they create. There doesn't seem to be any communication or input from labor or consumer when engineers design a product.

In Jr. High I took woodwork shop, in high school I took carpentry. I don't work in construction, but I did acquire skills that I have used over the years that have saved me thousands. Vo-Tech needs to be re-instated in high school

It generational. My dad showed me how to work..I'm grateful that I have a great trade screen printing in a town where all my competition is dying out...and my son will take over the business someday.

When Nick was explaining on how some builders beat there subs down on price then they are out of commission hit home for me that's why I no longer work for only a handleful of builders that think like Nick does and doesn't want the quick and dirty and cheapest price out there ... Custom homes at a track home price doesn't work out real well for anyone especially the future home owner ..

The book how things work is a great intro into getting interest built in your minds

You. Have me on a roll now…..I have a BS and an MBA. I was thinking of going to law school or nursing school or architecture school…..an effort in defining my post-divorce life. But just in the last few days I have decided to look into getting my certifications/licenses in plumbing and electrical. I mean I can DO most plumb/elec jobs now, but I wouldn’t do larger jobs. But how great! Single woman, owns her own home, can repair her own house, doesn’t need to wait for “a man” to have a free appt to Look at whatever job I need WIN, WIN for me!! Yes???

Great podcast.

I would loved to seen Brent Hull, who is an expert in historical architecture and methods of the past, been apart of this panel.

Hello was watching this video and in the beginning you talked about 811 service. Here in west virginia I wanted to dig post holes and called 811. They came out and marked to the meter which by the road. My wife called them back and asked why they didn't mark further up the property where post holes were going. They're response was they only mark to meter. Our responsibility to hire independent to locate on property. Just saying. Thanks

Glad you could do an interview with Mike. He's a great spokes person for the skill trades.

Great conversation. A little bit of history though, A touch on the trades. I’m from the 90’s, Company’s would not touch you unless you had experience. They wanted you to pledge to them, And then all the layoffs over 20 years. Now the older generation is retiring, Like what was mentioned, 5 retire, only 2 retain. People are jaded. I’m curious how it will play out.

What is the wage earned in Germany, Switzerland and South Korea vs the United States? For the "trades"? Median cost for a house in california is what? $400-800 thousand dollars. Rents are $2-4000 a month depending where you live. Until people can see a path to the ability to build a life the people will "lie flat" to borrow a term from china. Can people who work in the trades in those other countries afford to build a life and have a family? Basic living wage in the SF bay area is $30 an hour? After taxes 8hrs x $30 x 5 days x 4weeks x 12 months = 57600 / 4 x 3 "taxes 25%" = 43200 take home or $3600 a month. That sounds like a lot of money to a 20 something but you aren't going to build a family on $30 an hour. And the trades wage growth flattens out at the same time a person's body starts to fail them. Then what? See there is not a "seeable" path to prosperity. Or I am just missing it.

I'm a former trades teacher who decided to go back to practicing my trade. To sum up my decision in a few words: poor pay, poor benefits, and using my program as somewhere to drop kids with behavior issues who do not want to be there. It was always so discouraging that I had to spend more time making sure the kids who were there causing problems weren't hurting themselves or others than I actually spent teaching the kids who were there to learn. With zero support from your administration who is too busy playing politics its unsurprising we have this problem in this country. I had a kid literally light a trash can on fire and he was back in class the next day. Couple that with the fact that as a framer I make $30k a year more and deal with less bs why would anyone be a teacher?

The labor shortage is made much worse by low wages and a lack of paid apprentice programs. Mike has done a ton of work to expose the arrogant attitude toward trade workers but it is the wage disparity that is creating these attitudes. Double the wages and you will slowly double the new workers. The idea that an expensive college education is worth higher wages is wrong. Specialized work should command a higher wage but only if there is a shortage of labor. Many incompetent business managers are perpetuating the high wages because the need to justify their own wage when they hire. It's a self congratulating system that is nothing more than a good-ol-boy network. Layoffs are coming for the bachelor of science degrees.

My friend has a full carpentry shop with all powermatict tools I he got from the local high school.... so sad

They talk about silent quitting now a form of being at work but basically doing just enough to not get fired what sort of attitude is that. I was able to attend shop classes in the 80s even Vo-Tech before i graduated in 1989 it was so sad to see those resources disappear. Now days I am so glad for the internet resources like you tube that provide ways to learn skills or to spark ideas to young people to get curious. I subscribe to so may great skill based creates that teach me even now how to do things. Example ScannerDanner, Abom79, April Wilkerson and The Fab Forums are just a few. Mike Rowe is an inspiration to us all and we need more people like him. 👊👊👊👊👊

Master auto technician 45 years (retired), it's the money, 50% of flat rate would be a start, like it was in the 80s, and 50% of parts markup, the industry is doomed.

My brother was six years older than me and got to go to vocational school. When it was time for me to go, the school had shut down 😑

Hi there - new to the channel. I'm from Denmark. I have had those 4 years you saw in Switzerland. Well - back it up 25 years, it wasn't as high tech, but still - the task you stood with in your hand is basically the same we had, except xeroxing in color was too expensive back then. I started out by chance, not really exactly knowing what I wanted back then, but school certainly wasn't it. Had enough already by 5th grade. Not that I was bad at it, but it just bored me to death. The sentence "it'll be good to know later in life" just about made me hurl. It did not make sense. Had they told me, that you need to learn abc because xyz, I'd probably have listened harder, like how you need history to make sure you're not helping the world turn to shit by accident - that would probably have helped. Then again - maybe not. A lot of history has only been uncovered since the internet took off. It wasn't a thing yet. At all. I started tech college and was there for the first 10 weeks. It was cool. I liked it. Drawing, making stuff... Stuff that made sense. And so after the first 10 weeks, you could either stay for another 10 to finish the full first part, or go get an apprenticeship, and come back for the remaining 10. Got an offer, after applying all over, showing up. This was with a commercial builder, and... It never quite grabbed the way it was supposed to. But, in for a penny, in for a pound. So shopping malls, grocery stores, breweriy, nursing homes, apartment buildings. That was all the order of the day. And I hated it. Big loud concrete structures with endless miles and miles of sheetrock, steel studs and insulation gallore, with the odd little trim job evwry once in a while. Installing doors and windows... Endured the 4 years, and thought: never again! So I took up the theoretical path again. There is an education called constructor, sort of the missing link between the airy thoughts of the architect, and the bone hard math of structural engineers. Realize the drawings to work on site, do material calculations , work out site planning, time estimates etc. It went south. School still wasn't for me. So I helped out the old man for a while, trying to figure out what to do, and realized - hey! It's not that bad after all! I was just sick and tired of doing a meaningless job at record pace, that nobody really appreciated anyway. The opportunity came up to go to the Pacific Northwest with a GC for 18 months, and I took it. Custom home building. Lots of wood, great crew, hand cut roofs, doing our own form work, siding and trimming. That turned everything upside down. To see what can be achieved by very basic means, and doing it with a great crew. Since then, I've been a carpenter first. Piecework was never my thing. I guess that is why I hated my time as an apprentice so much, so I've since gravitated towards one offs and troubleshooting, which I did for about 5 years until the stock market crashed. Then there was nowhere to go in construction. Nobody was hiring. Sales went down 90% for the outfit I was in - could just as easily have killed them off, but they managed. For me it meant something else. Wind turbines. Blades and later on generators. Being large part of an in-house training program even - let's face it: most are not equipped to do structural glass fiber repair from the outside world! But I missed my lumber! Especially since it was such a toxic environment. Turbine blades are NOT made from strawberry jam, in case anyone had any doubts. They're designed to be hammered and pounded at wingtip speeds closing in on 190mph for 20+ years. Unfortunately there is a direct link to the building industry, and the ever faster pace sets higher demands, not only on people, but on materials too. On wonder after the other is churned out each and every single day. New and improved! Anti fungi caulking, stainless carpet, scratch free laminate flooring, unrottable Hardie siding, fire resistant mineral wool, fire retardants, softeners for rubber, anti aging membrane.... It.is.all.junk! So I made another shift. Decided to go back to the roots, where crafts were accessible for anyone, there wasn't any monopoly on this, that or the other system, but the deciding factor was what you did with the material at your disposal. Very little, if anything, was waste. Cutoffs would be used for bracing, pegs or chinking. What was then left over, you'd cook and stay warm with. Everything was a ressource. Everything was made to be able to repair. Not so anymore. Any of the above listed items quits on you, it's game over. Junk. Replace with new. The industry loves that. Means a steady cycle of consumption. As a responsible craftsman however, I cannot endorse that mindset. They're holding every single one of us hostage. We cannot continue that path. We cannot afford to leave our junk to future generations to deal with in every single corner and animal on the globe. Rob them of democracy. Because the crafts are democratic. Anyone is free to participate. So. Now I'm full circle. Back to the timber framing the gentle start at tech college presented me to many years ago. As you can probably tell, a lot of realizations were necessary for me to get here. Restoration is the name of the game. Why should it be thrown away, just because it's 2-500 years old, and in dire need of some TLC? I am truly sorry for the rant, but I felt like some background was necessary, when I now tell you you hit the nail on the head in this video. Again and again and again! I have gone through my share of construction videos on this media, and this is by far the most relevant. Why won't craftsmen recommend their trade to future generations? Because they're being pissed and spat on in most cases. Figuratively and literally. The ones remaining are those who either have no choice, or those who can't help it. Same difference. But we're not going to be here forever. And we can barely make it as is. How to make best use of a master tradesman? Anyway - loved the video. Keep this going. In the public, in politics. Stress the importance of why, what, who and how. But as anything that has to come out good: It can't be rushed!

"labor shortage". How about pay living wages for these $500,000 necessities?

You finally got him.

I got an 8 yr. Associates degree yet they didn't want to pay me what I was worth so I ended up cleaning rest rooms & or park toilets for the County & the City. With both I made $29 an hr.! Single mom (doing my own hair, nails & repairs on car & house) yet They say I made to much to get assistance yet I was working check to check. Sometimes having to borrow $40-60 a month to get bills paid & I'm very conservative w/no credit cards & even stopped using microwave & coffee pot to save on electric. Was forced to move so lived in car or homeless shelter. Now I can't get a job for not having proof of residency to get new car Tags in order to get a job to get by. Go figure, guess I live on wrong side of wall.

I’d love to see a coffee break on how you made the leaps at different points in your business. We all know the solo carpenter to whole house remodel with your cousin. How do you keep taking on bigger jobs and ensure that you have the man power to complete these jobs. Is it just taking advantage of having a good sub contractor relations? We’re you doing all the work still back then? Would love to hear your story or opinion of how you would do it now if you went back and knew then what you know now. Thanks. Long time fan.

The computers are the future. That is what everyone was saying 10 to 20 years ago. I think everyone moved towards that. And forgot about the tradesmen.

Dear Mike Rowe I want to work with you. Now I am in Malaysia. My jobs is plumbing.

EXACTLY!!!

Great ifo i am enroll in my local community college taking construction technology with the hope of becoming a carpenter/homebuilder.