+TheBookWorm1718 He was only doing it to prove to everyone that he could. Sure he didn't care about the prize, he cared about making a name for himself.
I don't think "STUPID" is the right word, as he is highly intelligent. However, he had no WISDOM, and didn't know what he really wanted in life, combined with his ego this could end badly for him in life, and that's what this scene is implying.
Yeah, his name is Wonka. Willy Wonka. It might be why in the beginning of the movie the little toys were singing "Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka, the amazing choclateer."
Augustus was the only one to use his stomach, Veruca was the only one who never actually got any chocolate, Violet was the only one who developed a psychological addiction and was able to trick her subconscious to think chocolate is gum, and Charlie isn’t special.
@@iixstarshinexiixoxo1778 Charlie it was luck that he managed to find a Note in the snow and go into the shop to buy a chocolate bar that end up have the golden ticket
All of the kid's theme songs have a reference to various music eras. Augustus Gloop - 40's and early 50's big band swing Veruca Salt - 60's psychedelic Beatles style Violet Bouregard - 70's disco style Mike Teavee - 80's and 90's punk rock and metal
@@zeipanda9887 they didnt have makeup on and were wearing more than just black and white. I'm still not entirely sure it was Queen, but it looked closer to that than Kiss
No. You made an assumption about something I have no intention of wanting likes on a comment. I sometimes list down my favorite quotes from movies, books, and TV shows.
I agree with you man. I love watching both movies as I like the original for it's timeless feel and a great cast, but I also enjoy the remake for the visual feel and how it's more accurate to the book.
it's ironic how people like the old movie better even though it wasn't as faithful to the book as this movie was. Dahl had them name it "willy wonka and the chocolate factory for this very reason. He hated the 1971 version. I personally like the newer one over the older one. The old one is good in its own way, but I like the upbeat creative nature of this film (plus being a more faithful adaptation). But hey everyone has their preference
TheAireaidLord Upbeat? I thought this movie was kind of creepy and a downer. The songs are pretty fun to listen to, though. I think the old film kept better to the spirit of the book, except for the creepy tunnel. And apparently the changes to the 1971 film were made because Dahl missed deadlines. So because he was a whiner, we got this film, with surprisingly not bloated graphics, a pointless scene (the chocolate palace didn't need that much attention), some interesting character ideas, and a title error. (Focused on Wonka's new backstory, and Charlie was a one dimensional character.)
display name Development for this movie actually began in 1991, which resulted in Warner Brothers providing the Dahl Estate with total artistic control. That means that Dahl's family and others of the like were in charge of whether or not the movie held up to what Dahl would have wanted, and considering that they're his family and most likely wouldn't want his book to get the same treatment as last time and also would know more about what he thinks than any of us would. Yes, yes this comment IS two months old. I'm still saying it.
TheAireaidLord "Upbeat"? Nah. 2005 was barely closer to the book either. I don't seem to remember Willy's dentist father or the last 25 of this movie being in the book at all.
I like this version better if ANYTHING because the lyrics for this version are taken directly from the book which is more than I can say about those "Oompa Loompa doompity do..." songs.
***** his family did have complete artistic control over the movie, Warner Bros. agreed to it, in order to get this film done, so i can 100% agree with you on the Roald Dahl would've love this scene, as well as the squirrel scene.
He hated most adaptations of his movies. But he would've loved this vehement warning against television, although he probably would've liked it to be even longer.
but when mike says “just send me back the other way” and wonka says “there is no other way its television not telephone” i wouldn’t be surprised if he actually could send him back the other way but didn’t want to. after all he did hate mike the most outta all the other kids
I like this song just as much as I like Mike himself. I like him in this version because, not only is he obsessed with TV, but also video games. But the main part I like about him is that he's smarter then what people give him credit for. Though we all can agree that jumping into the machine was a pretty dumb idea, even for Mike.
he is very intelligent without a doubt, the problem is that he has no humility or respect for others, he thinks himself to be smarter than anyone else, he is the typical know-it-all
and i like that they actually explained how he got the golden ticket i always found it weird in the old movie. and i like that he hates chocolate and is mean to wonka.
There is a reason his salary was raised to one million dollars. He started MONTHS before the other actors, learning everything necessary to perform his part. Truly a wonderful actor.
I liked the way the kids were updated, Violet especially. I mean, gum-chewing was really not as big a problem as being spoilt or greedy. Mike was more interested in all tech, too, which made him uncommunicative with the real world, which is a modern problem. Meanwhile, Violet's character was turned into basically one of those kids from Toddlers and Tiaras that are pushed into being a winner. Her mom's even more of a T&T archetype pageant mom.
@Christopher Bingham true, but to be honest I found him even more likable than Charlie. Characters with that predictable “main syndrome” are just uninteresting to me.
See, I actually liked this adaption more than the original film, since this one was closer to the source material. I grew up with the book, and while not a perfect adaption, I still thoroughly enjoyed it!
That's the thing about movies though, if it were a PERFECT adaption it would be boring, why not read the book? But I totally agree. This movie was brilliant, and I really need to read the book!
The most important thing That we've ever learned The most important we've learned As far as children are concerned Is never, never ever let them near Your television set Or better still, just don't install The idiotic thing at all never, never let them never, never let them never, never let them never, never let them It rots the senses in the head! It keeps imagination dead! It clogs and clutters up the mind! It makes a child so dull and blind! So dull and blind, so dull and blind! He can no longer understand A fairytale, a fairyland! A fairyland, a fairyland! His brain becomes as soft as cheese His thinking powers rust and freeze He cannot think, he only sees! He only sees, he only sees! Regarding little Mike Teavee We very much regret that we regret that we Shall simply have to wait and see and see, wait and see, wait and see, wait and see, wait and see We very much regret that we Shall simply have to wait and see If we can get him back his height But if we can't- It serves him right
1:54 Gene Simmons Cow Tongue 2:01 Ronnie James Dio's Devil Horns 2:03 Pete Townshend's Windwill 2:11 Chuck Berry Duck Walk 2:16 Angus Young Guitar Spasms 2:17 Freddie Mercury Half-Mic Stand 2:25 The Beatles 2:35 Pete Townshend (again) Guitar Smash
I love how with every song theres a very different style. The first one was 50's ish, the second was disco, the third was a hippie song, and then this rock and roll song.
I am one of the three people in the world who actually prefers this version of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory." It is more true to Roald Dahl's book than "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" ever was.
Hm, I rather like both. Probably because I refuse to fall into the mindset that this was a "remake". Rather they were both separate interpretations of the book.
Roxxie Kaiba Also, right up until now, Mike is depicted as a freaking genius who managed to *earn* his Golden Ticket by somehow deducing exactly which chocolate bar would have one. Guess he's immune to television's evil magic.
The most important thing That we've ever learned The most important thing we've learned As far as children are concerned Is never, never let them near a television set Or better still just don't install the idiotic thing at all (Never, never let them, never, never let them) It rots the senses in the head It kills imagination dead It clogs and clutters up the mind It makes a child so dull and blind (So dull and blind, so dull and blind) He can no longer understand A fairytale in fairyland (In Fairyland, in Fairyland) His brain becomes as soft as cheese His thinking powers rust and freeze He cannot think he only sees (He only sees, he only sees) Regarding little Mike Teavee We very much regret that we (regret that we) Shall simply have to wait and see We very much regret that we Shall simply have to wait and see If we can get him back to size But if we can't It serves him right
Don't forget that the first tv-scenery we see is from 2001 space odyssey, we even see the black Monolith who turns out to be the chocolate bar Wonka teleported in first
People might hate me for saying this, but, the Oompa Loompa songs I think are far better in this version than the "original". Think about it, if Willy Wonka came out now, would it really hold up as it does? The reason those songs are memorable is only because of the nostalgia. If it weren't for that, you realize that those songs are very one note. Danny Elfman's brilliant scores not only writes a new song in a different style, but these would be very catchy and memorable if it wasn't for the original.
Song would have a bit more punch if it didn't talk about tv rotting kids brains in relation to the kid who's 10 times smarter then everyone else is the room
Honestly. The kid is brilliantly intelligent. A fucking obnoxious bratty little shit, but still highly intelligent. He really should've been punished for his violent behavior and cruel insults to others, not for watching too much TV, which we really don't see much evidence of in this version anyway.
+Wawagirl17 I never got why they punished him for watching too much TV either. Obviously he plays video games more than watching TV. But I agree he does have some violent behavior.
+gargoyles9999 Intelligent like, academically, yes. But *street wise and social* smarts? He really has none. And honestly, the latter is more important in life.
The idea is that he's smart but isn't doing anything with it, instead he's watching tv and playing games instead of spending his time studying, reading or doing other academics.
I'm confused, isn't Mike a very smart kid? I mean he cracked the system and managed to get the ticket, plus he lectured Wonka on the difference between waves and particles. Seems rather smart compared to the other 3.
I think its talking about how he doesn't have his imagination anymore. Sure he is smart, but he has no creativity. I feel like this song is basically saying T.V. takes away a child's ability to imagine things for themself.
I'm guessing Mike didn't heard when Willy Wonka said "It has to be a very big bar or else it will come out really tiny on the other side" (I'm paraphrasing)
+ResidentEddy (Paradise Lightning) Not really, he's smart and he obviously pays attention to school. COD/Fnaf squeakers are just stupid. If Mike Teavee wasn't so much as a rude kid he wouldn't be all that bad. He just has an interest in television. (Sorry for the late reply)
Anyone else think that this was all planned out by Wonka?(And possibly rigged in Charlies favor) After the Augustus song we can see that the boat wouldn't fit Augustus and his mother (No fat joke intended). Next we have Violet Beauregarde, isn't it a bit ironic that the only machine WONKA HIMSELF points out is the gum machine? I didn't notice anything about him influencing Veruca except for the fact that he brought her to the nut room BUT he does in fact lose the key so that the father couldn't save her and then proceed to UNLOCK AND LOCK THE DOOR (Locking Veruca and her father in knowing they wouldn't leave) after Veruca is taken. Last is Mike, Wonka mentions that he didn't know why he forgot about the elevator, i think it was simply to give Mike and mike only the chance to select the T.V room due to his "aggressive and controlling" personality. Not to mention the other kids weren't there to make a decision. I am more than confident that Wonka could have planed something to bring Charlie into temptation but didn't. It's kinda weird to think about right?
+TheInsaneGame I believe that too. When they mention in the beginning about the oompa loompas being rehearsed in their song about Augustus, I think Willy did a little research on the four ticket winners (No one knew Charlie had won). I don't know how, though, it would be rigged in Charlie's favor.
2 points: I really hope the guys playing all the Oompa Loompahs made a lot of money for all his effort. And when I was a kid I always thought Mike was a little shit but now watching this one and looking back I realized he was the smartest out of all of them. Not the best, cause he was still kind of a little shit.
I mean if Wonka wasn't using the room ONLY for choclate then Mike probably whouldn't do that stupid stunt (and no he whouldn't jump into the tv becuse of his love for television the 2005 Mike is so stupid). And it whould lead to Wonka probably having to choose between Charlie and Mike who whould get the factory.
A boy gets beamed into a television and shrinks. What do you do? A) Change the channel B) Take him into a taffy room and stretch him into a life sized Slender Man C) (in case you didn't read my other comments I made on these songs) Sing a song
But it's actually kinda scary at the same time lol... I mean imagine if a naked woman is about to take a shower in a bathtub and suddenly you're shrunk down to a few inches in size and got teleported to her bathtub and she sees you...
Am I the only one who thinks this is awesome? Augustas was sucked up a pipe, not very pleasant. Violet got it worst as she became an imobile blueberry who needs to be rolled. Veruca got covered in garbage. But Mike, I mean, he even wanted to be small. Violet did chew the gum but she didn't know she would become a blueberry. But this guy saw what the machine does, then still jumps into it.
I'll agree that I like how the Oompa Loompa songs take after the book and were better than the old Oompa Loompa songs, nothing beats the original songs like Pure Imagination, the candyman can, and I've got a golden ticket.
Kanye Best It's actually not a remake. It's an original adaptation of Roald Dahl's book. A remake is where it's keeps the same plot, scenes, etc. This one was done different enough that Tim Burton didn't even watch the first one.
