Mike Tomlin hot-seat talk offends Stephen A. Smith | First Take 

Marvin Lewis work for steelers ? No stfu we don't set the standards looking at other teams.

@@bobbyraejohnson did i said marvin lewis work for the steelers? Wear glasses next time!

Yea but Tomlin is a darker shade of black therefore he is more likely to get fired. This is how Stephen A sees the world.

Carlos Inda If Lewis, Jason Garette, Doug Moron Have Jobs And Tomlin Doesnt Imma Cut Tf Up

@@greezymajor174 I'll lose my mind

Are you a moron? Did you not clearly see that SAS addressed get by name with a question? Stop being a idiot dude!

@@gotspee Tf is wrong with you? She's always interjecting and cutting people off, she didn't this time and that's all there is to it.

gotspee your comment doesn’t make any sense

@@gotspee lol what? literally speaking jibberish

@@gotspee English 101

Exactly what I thought, such a stupid argument. Stephen A is a racist.

Well it was a white man that remained a head coach after missing the playoffs for 14 years lmao Tennessee Titans are racist asf lmao

So does Jason Garrett.

@@DumbVentriloquism first thing he said was marvin lewis should be gone, clearly white people have selective hearing LOOOL

True

That about sums it up.

David Vonderhaar why?

Dolphins...........

Fine Supplements because I always like our changes when we play him ...

jusadude Dolphins are about to get eliminated in the next 2 weeks and patriots are about to the AFC Championship game aka The new England invitational

Especially since he always complains about Marvin Lewis still having a job...

That’s what liberals do, just wait til him & Tyron Woodley get on the same panel once ufc coverage moves to espn

Make sure u mention that when u u see racist remarks in the comments section

Eric Willingham I've read a good bit and haven't seen any so far besides a troll here and there. Get over it man, didn't ur parents ever tell u life isn't fair and some people are gonna be turds. That's just life. There is no epidemic of racism except on tv

@@dantirk1819 Im good, just pointing out the constant hypocrisy

4k passing yards worth firing? I think not...

Short Distance ya that’s not happenin...Tomlin really has underachieved, especially being a defensive guy...that’s a fact

Ben is becoming a turnover machine

Ive been saying this for the passed 8 years.

Big Ben carries the Steelers gtfo. Defense collapses every year

714milky Unnecessary but true.

Cuz they don't never say s*** by Jason Garrett so rest and then they give Jon gruden 10 years on a contract that he does not deserve so yeah we can play the race card all day G

every team goes after high end talent. WTF are you talking about? that's literally the goal of every single football team every draft. the DIFFERENCE as to WHY it would appear the steelers ALWAYS have talent is BECAUSE of coaching. the steelers always look good because they have a damn good coach that knows how to develop players. the same way bill belichick takes no name rookies and develops them.

trollin rollin lmao what a fool. If the Steelers had good coaching they’d have another 2 rings

High-end talent where. Ben is a ball holding, int throwing, strip sack waiting to happen that can't read defenses!

No, he wouldn't.

Ya and that team's would be the worst in the NFL...in a heartbeat

victor gamez lol when have the Steelers ever been the worst team in football. Go crawl back in a hole you fuckin idiot. The Steelers are the best franchise in the NFLs history and are still relevant. TO DO THIS DAYYYY... TO THIS DAYYYY

exactly ...Maybe everyone just wants a change...maybe change is better for everyone...Mike Tomlin going to another team isn't the end of Mike, or the Steelers....But I guarantee, his next squad would likely underachieve as well, and I'd love to see that experiment conducted to test that theory...

He can come to Carolina tomorrow if Rivea does get canned. Please. I'll take a caoch who has been to 2 Super Bowls and won one and is and is perennially in the playoffs. I'm not asking to fire our coach, but if we do I'd love Tomlin as a replacement.

Andy Reid has just as good of an offense as Mike Tomlin and Reid has never won a Super Bowl. Sean Payton has just as good of an offense and Drew Brees, yet Payton missed the playoffs for 3 straight years. Y'all being either way too harsh on Mike Tomlin or not harsh enough on those other coaches when they were underachieving. No one tried to fire Payton or Andy Reid.

Billy Bob facts bro Quinn got go

Billy Bob lol ok I hope you’re happy losing to the shit nfc teams every year.

If we get Tomlin! in my best Lil Uzi Voice "ITS A WRAP"

Jets

@@werunthenorth23 Yup and never have another loosing season again.

Exactly. There should be no argument whatsoever for him to be fired. SAS BS once again

What? How many less than 8 win season have they had? How many has Pittsburgh had with tomlin

Because Sean Peyton missed the playoffs 3 straight years with Drew Brees and no one put him on the hot seat. Mike Tomlin has won just as many Super Bowls as Sean Payton. And he's made one more. It's a totally reasonable comparison and he's right to make it, whether people want to hear it or not.

@@rexsmith9074 and look at the Saints now. Super Bowl contenders last year and this year, and winning back to back NFC south titles. Yes, maybe he should've been put in the hot seat but the Saints would not be in the position they are now if Payton had been fired

@@robbo03 Yes, which is exactly the point about why Tomlin should NOT be on the hot seat either. No one is saying to fire Sean Payton. We're merely pointing out that it makes no more sense to try to fire Tomlin now than it did to fire Payton 3 yrs ago. Payton had Brees and a good offense 3 yrs ago. The Saints were smart and patient. The Steelers should be just as patient with Tomlin now as the Saints were with Payton then.

RedXkiller you do realize Bill Cowher lost 5 AFC title games with I believe 3 or four of them played at home. John Gruden got credit for Dungy players. Tomlin gets no credit for winning in his second year?

@@Drummajortsu You do realize Bill Cowher was rebuilding the Steelers and needed a QB, which he then got and won Superbowl XL? Cowher did more with less.

@@GreenMan1999 No you don't realize what you're talking about and lack so much nuance. At that time the NFL didn't require a coach to "need a QB" an NFL where guys like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson and a young game managing Tom Brady were winning super bowls from 2000 to 2005 So when he got Big Ben and Big Ben went 9/21 for no TD's and 2INT's in the Superbowl XL that's what Cower needed to get over the hump? He got to Superbowl with Niel O'donneld I'll give him that. But then he couldn't even beat a Pats team with Drew Bledsoe playing most of the game after Brady went down. AFC title losses Chargers 17, Steelers 13 @home (1994) Broncos 24, Steelers 21 @home (1997) Patriots 24, Steelers 17 @home (2001) Patriots 41, Steelers 27 @home (2004) Tomlin has never had to rebuild and he's suffered injuries to Big Ben and lost him for parts of the season. The division was better while Tomlin has been coaching with the emergence of the Bengals, Coward only had to worry about the Ravens from time to time. Tomlin hasn't been able to beat the Patriots well Coward couldn't either. Try to be objective for a chance and see the whole picture rather than the corner you want to select.

@@Drummajortsu lol Mike Tomlin is a notorious choker in the playoffs. He has incredible talent on this team and still can't do shit with it because he sucks with clock management and can't challenge to save his life. Seeing you desperately trying to defend Mike Tomlin is hilarious. Mike Tomlin has no excuses and neither do you. And stop using the AFC North as a justification when it's a weak division and we always come out on top.

@@GreenMan1999 I see you just have a personal issue beyond football with coach Tomlin, okay. Your bias is showing to call what one coach has as excuses and not address the choke job that was Coward for over a decade. He got to rebuild because he went 6-10. Tomlin has never had a losing season. Is he the best with clock management nope! Andy Reid isn't either and I love coach Reid hope he wins the Superbowl this year but he hasn't won one, and Tomlin has. If you want to spew your hate in any direction do it to the management that couldn't handle the L Bell situation properly over the past 2 years. You can look at the Cowboys and Rams to see what a top 5 back on a championship contender can do.

John Solly583 so their record is equivalent???? Go sit in timeout until we come get you......

Elizabeth Sligh why does their record have to be equivalent to be fired? Marvin lewis has coached playoff teams. He deserves to be fired. Tomlin has no control over his locker room, and coaches a majorly under achieving team. He should be fired. McCarthy has a good track record, he got fired. Learn football, or leave it to the men honey

Cheat during the Super-bowl? That tripping thing was against Baltimore in the regular season and it was not about tripping either. Tomlin was standing too close to the end line is all...made the runner flinch.

you're fired from this argument because two AFC teams cannot plausibly play each other in the superbowl.

First off, that wasn’t the super bowl, second off, we lossed that game, and finally he was fined for it

Russell Jennings why are you watching him then?? 👋

Andy Reid has more offensive talent than Tomlin does. And he's an offensive coach. He has yet to win a Super Bowl. Sean Payton has just as much offensive talent as Tomlin and he's won the exact same number of Super Bowls. He's actually made one less. Tomlin ain't perfect, but he's a dang good coach. No one bothered Payton when he missed the playoffs with Drew Brees 3 straight years, he's right there.

@@rexsmith9074 Andy Reid has never had talent as good as Tomlin, until now, and that includes the Donovan McNab and T.O. days. Andy Reids team now is 11-3, and on their way to playing every playoff game in Arrowhead. They're the team we should be right now, with a great offense and lackluster defense. That's the difference between Reid and Tomlin. Sean Paytons Saints had a historically bad defense, and no weapons. Their best receiver was Marques Colston for those years.

@@RedlegFan19 Andy Reid has had PLENTY of offensive talent. Andy Reid THIS year has Mahomes, an MVP level QB, Tyreek Hill, the most explosive WR in the league, he had Kareem Hunt and he has Travis Kelce, arguably the best TE in the league. Get out of here. If y'all want to fire Tomlin, fine, but stop making excuses or denying reality. Reid has just as much offensive talent as Tomlin.

@@rexsmith9074 I said until now. Funny how Reids team is 11-3

3 years later and Tomlin has been blown out in the playoffs twice. 5 years without a playoff win. 1 successful season in the last 11. Totally squandered a decade with our only franchise QB since Bradshaw...

@@mikeansley5306 what’s worse is the terrible Steelers teams from the 80’s didn’t have a five year stretch with no playoff victories. Longest stretch in 50 years.

How many times have all the B's played 2gether n playoff gms??

Haha true.

Yea but race card.

Exactly. I hope we fire Tomlin and bring in MM. At least he knows the Xs and Os...

Mike also has been to two Superbowls with a worse QB lmao stop it

Demario Wilson Still HOF. Tomlin is holding the team back. Hiring his buddy to replace DL was a huge mistake.

Leveon bell has nothing to do with Tomlin he's head coach. He doesn't sign checks dumb ass.

Because if they had Le'Veon right now they likely win 2 if not all those last 3 losses and that's not Tomlins fault

Because the media is obsessed with certain teams: Cowboys, Steelers, Giants, Patriots, and Packers.

Who your team is? Ill make a wager using them chips, who your team is?

Crashed harder than dale sr.'s last race lmao

Undisputed baby ... dun do dat skthkip

It's because of THE GOAT Shannon Sharpe

Love undisputed

Shay Sharpe hit em hard. UNC

were you crying this much when he went off on marvin lewis. typical white lol, fine with black ppl critisizing each other but the second they defend each other yall mad as hell lmfaoooooooo

@@JaysonT975 lol oh gawwwd. im not even gonna bother. but for one, im not even white.

Yeah what’s your point??? If you don’t want the race card played then stop putting it in the deck.

Its true i can see thru the bullshit

Well i hate to do this... Kevin Hart lol, and then others... Bill Cosby and then President and others.... Lol u get it?

Damm you a sour was dude hating on my coach and team

@@quentenpaige1485 sour? give that offensive roster to any of the other top 6-7 coaches and they will atleast make it to superbowl. HOF QB, 2 #1 wr, 2 good TE, #1 RB, #1 offensive line and u dont get things done.. smh

Not perfect but he is a great coach.

Yea but ... i'm reaching in my pocket ... what is it ... RACE CARD!!!!!

Belichick is not perfect, but he's the closest thing the NFL has ever had to being a perfect coach....

Owl Green one game

Joaquin A hundred games.

The difference is no one was calling for McCarthy to be fired. So get your bias head out of your ass.

U fuckin stupid

@@ronniepratt8710 there was a call for McCarthy to be fired and he was fired. What are you talking about?

Also, bringing up Marvin Lewis is disingenuous. Cincinnati doesn't have big Ben or any of the talent that Pittsburgh has or ever had. There is no comparison between the organization in Cincinnati and the organization in Pittsburgh from a talent standpoint or front office/ownership standpoint. That's not even close to analogous

Imagine what would have happened during the past 15 years if the Ravens had drafted Big Ben instead of Pittsburgh. It's very likely Roethlisberger and his coach (it might even be Billick) would be going for their 5th or 6th super bowl this season. I always thought Baltimore's fronts were in general superior to Pittsburgh's and the only difference between the teams was at the QB position where Roethlisberger gave the Steelers a major advantage.

@@nobodyaskedbut I'm a big fan of what Big Ben has brought to the table for years, but the Steelers have also consistently had better WRs and RBs!

@@perfectsense3240 So you don't think if the Ravens had Big Ben instead of Flacco and who ever they had before him, they would not have won a lot more. I also meant both fronts on O & D were for the most part better in Baltimore. Remember, for years Pitt had very poor O lines, of which only Ben could prosper behind. And, most of those so-called better WRs did not do very well after leaving Pitt. Big Ben makes every WR better because of his incomparable play making ability. He certainly would have done that in Baltimore.

Furthermore... stephen a. smith bringing up Marvin Lewis is disingenuous. Cincinnati doesn't have big Ben or any of the talent that Pittsburgh has or ever had. There is no comparison between the organization in Cincinnati and the organization in Pittsburgh from a talent standpoint or front office/ownership standpoint. It's not even close to analogous.

Exactly. And bringing up Marvin Lewis is disingenuous. Cincinnati doesn't have big Ben or any of the talent that Pittsburgh has or ever had. There is no comparison between the organization in Cincinnati and the organization in Pittsburgh from a talent standpoint or front office/ownership standpoint. That's not even close to analogous

yerejay No I actually agree with SAS about Marvin. But I also agree with you about this organization. I am a Bengals fan and I can tell you that this year I believe the Bengals are more talented than the Steelers. The reason why they are 5-8 is because of Marvin. Marvin has no discipline with the team and continues to make the same mistakes for 16 years. This organization should’ve gotten rid of Marvin two years ago in my opinion.

@@fuze8896 Cincinnati does not have and has never had the same level of talent the Pittsburgh Steelers have. The reason you think they do is because Marvin Lewis is able to get the most out of what he has and coach them up. And if you think Lewis has no discipline, then I question whether you know what that word means.

yerejay I do know what discipline means. If you watch Bengals games the defense doesn’t even know how to tackle anymore. Also almost every special teams play there is a flag against them for illegal blocks or holding. And we had so many drives that ended in a punt because of so many false start penalties.

yerejay You would keep a coach who has not won a single postseason game and is about to have 3 losing seasons in a row?

Doesn't fit their insecure, mediocre mentality though lmao.

That would be the case if they wouldn't make it in playoffs every year

Talent does not win super bowls teams do ask Vince Young and Andy Reid

rockafelladw waiting on the players to be held accountable....... still waiting

They were rolling when they had a running game. Blame the front office on this season. If bell played, the Steelers would be the favorite to win it all. Ben is old and throws too many late game picks. When you lose to the raiders that’s not coaching.... it’s the players. Hold them accountable. Big Ben. And the front office. The Steelers look like clowns with the Bell situation

Get rid of Tomlin it’ll be like the giants when they got rid of their super bowl coach.... watch and see. I love the Steelers but without tomlin theyd SUCK

Their lack of run game is also on the coaching staff. Conner was only given 12 carries per game over the past 3-4 games. That's not his fault. Their run game would be fine if they gave Conner 30 carries a game.

Dont worry. More of us are turning on him.

And have the time someone off the offense is injury AB bell or Ben

As a Bears fan, Big Ben is more of the problem.

They had no business losing to Bortles last year in the playoffs

Jarvis Juice put some of the loses in context

@Siah El LMFAOOOO

Osiris 64 Colbert and Butler holding us back

Osiris 64 smartest person in the comment thread........

Tomli's not a great coach

@@RedlegFan19 he's a better coach than you

Until the Rooneys say so obviously...

race casino

Joshua Bullins FOH who’s mentioning race? Also your grammar is garbage. Have a good day.

Seems to me Caucasians are using it more these days than any other ethnic group but I digress

Michael Kelly nah black people are by far the biggest cry babies ... ( I’m not white )

F A Stephan a Smith is always mentioning race.

Marvin Lewis? 😏

@@yattaguru I really want to know what Marvin Lewis has over the Bengals owner. It can't be bad enough to bring in a chatty former head coach that went 1-31 the two full seasons and get away with it.

adam east Did u even watch the video. “Marvin Lewis”

@@Daniel-rd2wh yes....he did that so I wouldn't say what I said....but I say it because it's true.He is a racist over all on the things he says on a daily basis. Him and Jalen Rose.

@@adameast1226 seems like you're the racist one

Kris Hope spoken like a true 7th grader.......

Yea but race card ...

newrecruit100 no my god dude look at the season comparisons and that’s cause the Steelers went in with out leveon tomlin has done the most with the team

@@DumbVentriloquism you are an idiot white people are born with the race card. That's why they are less likely to go to jail for the same crime and more likely to get a job with the same CV u dipshit

The reason why is because they staring down on my Tomlin when it's so many other coaches doing worse than he is that's why and let's not forget there's only a handful of black coaches in the league anyway hello

Okay but Mike McCarthy just got fired and he’s white. Marvin Lewis isn’t white and we still haven’t heard anything of him possibly losing his job. Race has nothing to do with this man never has. But I forgot, it’s 2018 and people r as sensitive as ever

McCarthy had two losing seasons in a row Mike Tomlin never had a losing season FOH

Fuk no

If you pick on Mike Tomlin you need to go around the league cuz he's better than most of these head coaches facts

@@shisupreme5143 Amen. Ain't nobody mentioning how Andy Reid has yet to even win a Super Bowl. And KC got just as much offensive talent as Pittsburgh. Sean Payton is treated as the second coming, but Tomlin has won just as many Super Bowls. The criticism of Tomlin is out of whack. He ain't perfect, but he's a damn good coach.

Cheerleader? What an idiot

Uhhhhhh do you know who Pete Carroll is?

@@AyoJeezy Mike Tomlin has a 68% win percentage as a coach. Pete Carroll has a 58% win percentage. The accomplishments are short lived for Pete. Maybe if the legion of boom lasted longer.

D Smoove Carroll has a ring though and has a better playoff record. Plus they made the playoffs six consecutive years and missed it last year. They will again this year. To be honest it’s pretty close but Carroll built a hall of fame defense and was key in drafting Russell Wilson so I’m gonna go with pete. Plus the NFC has been historically better the last five years not including this year

@@AyoJeezy Tomlin has two and Carroll's was in a short span lol sorry

@@DZ-lx4iu Tomlin has one not two.....with Bill Cowher's roster.

If it aint race then what is it Steven a Smith proved the fact that it was a race card because Mike Tomlin has been more successful then the majority of head coaches in the league facts

Shi Supreme its 2018 almost 19 every snowflake out there needs to grow up this is pc culture and the white guys are the bad guys so gro the hell up im so sick of people playing the race card if you haven't notice us racist white guys are cheering on our favorite players and most happen to be black so stop agreeing with the stupid ass liberal media who wants keep the working class at each others throat just stop dude