Military buckshot vs Federal buckshot through the Remington 11-87 

I was hit by two pellets of 00 buckshot at @ 125 yards. One hit a pistol in a bandolier holster. No damage to me or the gun. The other busted my safety glasses off of my head, hit me right at the outside edge of my right eye socket, and instead of going through my eye socket into my brain it tracked along my skull under the skin and came to rest against my temporal artery above my right ear. A third pellet went through the rifle scabbard on my snowmobile. I was blinded in my right eye, but I could tell that my sight began to slowly return @ two nights later. My sight was fully recovered @ three years later. Just one ball can really ruin your day. I run a BuckKicker extra-full choke tube in my Beretta 1301T. It consistently puts all 9 pellets into a silhoette target @ 60 yards using Remington Express 00 Buckshot.

Thank you for this presentation! I picked up some 25rd boxes on sale. They should be good enough for some shotgun plinking after hunting season.

Good shootin’ Halfmile!! Thanks for the dollar bill lesson. Taught me somethin’. Thanks!!

Always learning when I watch HMS! Great video!

You do some great testing. 👍

Thanks 1/2 Mile, love the videos as always.

Military buck did pretty good for a fighting scenario! I like Hunting with buckshot but it's good to know how it works in a pinch!

Dang that flight control is some nice stuff! I have the same shotgun, I’m definitely gonna pick some up. Great test👍

Great comparison video! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

I've always had good luck with flight control shot shells. While listening to your plea to not hit the camera I was reminded of a similar quote: “Please, dear God, don’t let me fuck up.”― Tom Wolfe, The Right Stuff

Great video. Which Oakley’s do you have on?

That Federal flight control looks nice!! Always have slugs for back up! lol! Always a fun day to break out the shotgun! have a good one!

Seems Flite Control is really intended for cylinder bore barrels, and mimics appropriately-choked shotgun barrels. I'd expect a much tighter pattern with any decent buck round using modified or improved chokes. Some tacticals wisely feature choked barrels. The M4 comes to mind.

I stocked up on that Winchester Military 00Buck, I was getting it for three fifty a box, about a year ago.

Is that the police version or just the regular 1187?

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I'm a Half Wit. !!!!🤣🤣

At 100 yard you could still spray a group of bad guys and get the “oh sht! I been shot!” Factor. They don’t know what they or their accomplice was hit with and how bad. It can cause a quick surrender with less casualties. It could be exactly what you need in the right circumstances. Hope I never find out.

Great video and Thank You for your border patrol service 🙂

Nice video bro

Interesting. But I just don't get the fascination with Flitecontrol ammo. Why go through the extra hassle and expense when all you have to do is change the choke if you want to take a longer shot? I think you will find a full choke out past 50 yds. way more effective than flitecontrol As far as a close up shot you can't beat having a little bit extra spread; after all is that not why we use buckshot up close if not just use a slug all the time. I have been deer hunting with conventional buckshot ammo for 50+ years and only had to pull the trigger more than once, one time out to 50 or so yards. They all fell right in their tracks. I can't imagine what would happen to a man. Even at a 100 yards. I would not want to be on the business end of a full choke shotgun loaded with buckshot and the shooter would not have to go to his knee and take a aimed shot. By the time you do that the shooter with a full choke loaded with buckshot would have gotten off his whole magazine + the one in the chamber. I bet you right now that would give you at least 10, buckshot pellets on your target before you took the first aimed shot from the knee. Anyway keep the vids coming I sure do find them interesting.

I knew the Military wouldn't be as good as the Federal but was surprised how bad it opened up at 50 yards & 25 yards. Just my opinion but for 40 yards & less the slower - less recoil - rounds don't spread much more than ones going 1350 & faster. The cup design helps most. Hurt less on recoil for us old guys too. Lol Federal is the best.

Maximum range for buck is 15-25 yards. Much less in close quarters with high collateral risk. Slug to 50 (optimal), and to 100 (SHTF). JMO tho.

“Not even for suppressing fire.” Why not? You are still shooting at them and they are still taking buck shot all around. Even more than a rifle. Suppressive fire is just to make them keep their heads down. If you aren’t intending to hit anyone why would you not use it for suppressive fire???? Seems like the perfect tool for the job. Every one shot will give you 9 impacts around the enemy. They don’t know it’s buck shot. Plus, 00 is about 9mm and traveling near as fast. I would 100% use volleys of 9 x 9mm for suppressive fire. Why not the buck??? Was it just a knee jerk statement? I’d use it at 200 yards for suppression if I had it. Make em bleed and take the fight out of them. Score lucky hits in the face potentially.

Fancy gun range and you have to lay gun on concrete? Something is off.