Great comparison. Just sold my gen 2 combo after I bought the new gen 3 combo kit. Made me feel more confident about selling the gen 2 after this video. Thank you!
I was lucky enough to get a gen two combo kit on sale at Home Depot a couple weeks ago for $130!! Sadly someone stole my one of them so today I went looking for another combo kit and was surprised to see their new drills already on display this video makes me feel better about my stolen drill
Damn that sucks. I got mine for $227 that had the hammer drill, impact, 2 and 4ah batteries and charger BUT came with a "free" tool which was the 3/8" brushed ratchet which was a pretty damn good deal at the time. I'm mainly invest in ridgid from their $99 impact and drill (brushed) combo that came with a charger and 2 1.5ah batteries.. It wasn't until I was invested in it that i found out what brushed vs brushless was etc and have expanded into Ridgid with good deals on a brushless circ saw with 4ah bat and charger and then the 1/2 impact with 4ah and charger. At that point i was fully imvested in Ridgid and while the tools work well for me and I have a lot better understanding, there are tons of brands that have their brushed combos with a shit battery for $99. That's how they suck you into their platform haha. Once you're invested in multiple batteries of 1 platform that is it UNLESS you did a big brain move like I did and found that on Amazon they make x battery to x tool adapters.. Ryobi for example has a muuch larger tool line especially with landscape tools than Ridgid so I found a Ridgid battery to ryobi tool and all is good. I did fins another awesome deal for a brushed Milwaukee 18v recip wit 3ah bat and charger for $99.. soon as i got it in i bought a Ridgid battery to m18 tool adapter so im not stuck on 1 platform. I also got a bitchen deal on a home depot rtv return from an eBay seller of a. Brushless weed eater. 6ah bat and charge for $137. Some bottom line is don't feel like you're stuck into a certain tool brand because of the batteries because you might look on Amazon and find out there are adapters from your battery to a different brands battery or tools or whatever so you don't have to feel like you're stuck on one platform
Thank you for demonstrating the chuck (I mean clutch 😆)! That has been my biggest pet-peeve when it comes to the Gen 2 and I've been wanting to see if they changed it on the Gen 3. Don't get me wrong, I love my Milwaukee tools, especially my M12s, but that always bugged me after using a mechanical clutch for so long on my non-Fuel M18 drill and my M12 non-Fuel screwdriver. It just never had the fine control the others did. Great video! - Joe
I kept having major issues with the chuck on the gen 2 drill, a lot of times when i would to the final tightening, it would slip and i would just keep turning the chuck as opposed to it locking and ratcheting
Agree 100%. Before Gen 3 came out, was about to go back to Gen 1 because I couldnt stand the electronic clutch either. Whats more annoying about the wind-up was is the power cutting out when reaching the torque setting. You dont know if the tool just went dead, or the torque has been reached. Brought this to the attention of a sales representative when Gen 2 first came out. They said it was to protect the motor. Some things are just better left alone. Gen 3 will last me a good few years. Theres not much to impove except battery technology. Just guessing, Gen 4 might be lighter, more powerful, maybe better lighting, and maybe an adapter so we can use M18 power on 12volt tools....and yeah, last position on the mode setting should be drill instead of hammer.
Lol, "some things are better left alone" are you suggesting that tool manufacturers, particularly Milwaukee, do away with their overload protection? It is there to protect your tool, I don't know, maybe you are into destroying your tools. They build that protection into the tool so some wingnut doesn't have the sense to stop when the tool has maxed out and just keeps on depressing the trigger. Same with the batteries. If the temperature is extreme the battery will shut down to protect itself from destroying the cells. Also, you do realize that if you power a 12 volt system with 18 volts it will burn up the motor. It is designed for a maximum of 12 volts any more or less (to a certain degree) will destroy it. You have a surge protector on your computer (I hope) so if a over current, lightning or surge from the sub station, happens it will shut it down. Same with your appliances, they are made to run on 120 volts. Thats why you can not run 240 volts for more power, it is built to operate on 120 volts. Thankfully Milwaukee has a fix for needing more power, the M18 tool line.
You speak your mind, love it! I just bought the third Gen drill and planning to test 2.0Ah vs. 2.5Ah HO vs. 6.0Ah vs 5.0Ah in overload conditions. Curious if this thing will have high enough amp draw to make a difference.
Just found your channel earlier today and can’t wait for more content! What really surprised me is I did a test to get a feel for if 31Wh in an 18V powestack vs 48Wh in a 12V in terms of total holes drilled. My hypothesis was that it shouldn’t matter the voltage because it’s total energy potential so the 48Wh 12V should drill about 50% more holes. Trouble is the power stack blew through 97 3/4” holes without blinking. Meanwhile the gen3 M12 hammer drill cut out after about 10 on overtemp. From then on it was battle to use up the battery but it came out to 75 holes or 22 fewer than the powerstack. All that heat build up ruined the test but that much? Not knocking the M12 because of its performance, that’s outside it’s design. Just surprised by how it went and the skewed results. I’ve drilled 5 3/4” holes in a row without issues since then and it’s in my head like “wow if I did 5 more it would cut out and I’d have to let it cool down for a bit”. Anyways all interesting and I still love the gen3 drill!
@@EngineersPerspective701 Thanks! I’m just a dude playing in my garage. Figured why not start a channel! The power stack LiPos are no joke, but they have to be used in the right setting and it looks like you found it. Total possible energy delivered is a combination of V and amps delivered, but depending on cell type, Amp draw actually drops the voltage, which is a bummer. A good like for like example is the Samsung 25S cells in the M12 2.5HO which can supply up to 25A continuous per data sheet, but the 30Q cells in the 3.0CP can supply only 15A co continuously. So, even though a 3Ah M12 pack will have more Wh than a 2.5HO, the 2.5 will handily outperform it in a high drain scenario by a WIDE margin. Hmm - this is a good idea for a test with a spade bit on some 2X4. I can also test out how good the noise cancellation is on the new Airpods as I do this lol. Cheers, and thank you!
I'm watching in March 2023. Bought the same Gen 3 kit in February 2023. Came wit a free 5.0 battery. Wondering why you have all those drills and impact drivers.
I'm new with buying Milwaukee tools and interested in buying the M12 fuel impact driver on the home depot website but I'm confused with the generation versions. How would I know if I'm buying the M12 fuel impact driver gen1, gen2 or gen3 model? Any help would be appreciated.........
For the gen3 impact just make sure you’re buying model 3453. Anything after the hyphen relates to kits or whatever. The biggest distinguishing feature is the flat front face and lights on the gen 3.
One thing I hate with the gen2 hammer drill is the electric clutch.. I'd rather have the mechanical clutch that just makes the impact driver type noise vs the electric one that feels like the tool is just cutting out. Yah that wind up on the clutch setting is lame also.. shoulda kept it a mechanical clutch where you get full speed right off the bat and then the clutch disengages depending on setting.. It definitely doesnt operate like any other normal drill without an electrical clutch.. still not used to it, i often just put it on drill mode and use the variable speed trigger to slowly drive delicate fasteners.
Hey I just got it I'm see the difference between the gen 2 too the gen 3 it's much better from Milwaukee! I like the new generation ove the impact they really improved it so good! Thanks 👍 for the texting you did put out a video 📸 well I'm a big Milwaukee fan! I love the red it's really nice! Okay I hope the most this time!!
Mine fell off as well, considering fixing it with a metal pin through both sides of the trigger. No point getting it "fixed" with the same plastic rod holding the trigger in place
I've used my Gen 2 a lot and the first two nit-picks I agree with. I don't know how many times I accidently put it into hammer-mode and go to drill a hole and think my drill is failing. I do not like electronic clutches. I like the old school clutches where it really was a clutch. The Gen 2 clutch even on mode '1' will still hit a fastener a bit too hard for my liking and the delay to full spin up is annoying. I don't normally use my drill to drive in fasteners. That's what the impact driver is for but good demonstration to see the difference between Gen 2 and 3 and the new impact driver.
I bought that same kit. The trigger broke off on my very first use of the hammer drill. Home Depot wouldn't take it back because I didn't have the box. Screw Home Depot they have always sucked and now Milwaukee does too.
How much the torque of 3404 gen 3? I've just bought the M12 FPD0 for Asian Market, I feel the torque is not so powerful when I use it drilling hard wood... If the 3404-20 has bigger torque, I'll buy it 👌🏼😁
@@EngineersPerspective701 thank you for your information, the Asian version deliver 44nm... When I use auger bit 22mm, it works so hard, the temperature almost reaches 40°C with 12v 3.0Ah batery
@@HnrPram it’s going to get hot for sure but a bigger battery will give more power. You’ll see gains with the 4 but more so with the 5HO and 6 Ah. Try those out before buying a new tool
The DeWALT drivers and drills always seem significantly lighter to me - the guy that has primarily Milwaukee power tools - not sure what accounts for the extra weight in the Milwaukee.
Agreed. I think a part of it is balance. This is opinion but I feel like Dewalt tends to feel more streamlined and nimble. By the specs they really aren’t that different.
Don't really care that much about the drills, but wanted to challenge you about some knife stuff. I appreciate/value your opinion about knife and sharpening related things, but I just can't get over your appreciation for lc200n, what gives? Everything else makes sense to me. I probably value you opinion/input the most as well as BBB, so please explain...😬
I think I finally have a response! I wasn’t actually sure why but this is my theory. The mechanism for edge failure on say S30V seems to be something other than abrasion maybe 40% of the time. Rolling, chipping, smushing, etc. I do not have this same issue on LC200N which is why I think it tends to cut better for longer and it also takes a crazy fine edge with ease which is the icing on the cake. Thoughts?
@@EngineersPerspective701 I'm thinking I may not have been looking at things objectively enough and relying a little too much on my own sample size of 1 in spite of the positive reviews of the steel from you and others. It's looking to me now like I still don't have enough experience with the steel, perhaps sharpening it at too acute of an angle for it to hold up (or i guess there's the off chance of not being enough sharpenings in still or that i got a bad sample, haha). Maybe I will sharpen it some more and try to put a less acute angle on it and see what happens, although now with magnacut rolling out I don't know if I want to invest any more time into lc200n.
Just ordered this on the Black Friday specials with the Impact and the extra batteries - I like how they upgraded the lighting from the previous models. Hopefully the lasts better than the Gen2 M12 Hammer drill - the chick got all boogered up the first project I used it on and it's junk now. My 'Claim' has been 'Processing' on Milwaukee's website for 2yrs, friggin' joke - if I didn't already have so much M12 and M18 I think I would just get all my power tools from Harbor Freigh because it's all the same Chinese stuff - they just have a better warranty process and Brick and Mortar stores you can talk to an actual human at....Milwaukee hides behind their website and forms and just leaves you out in the cold with broken tools.
I mostly agree. I don’t think I would ever necessarily recommend 12V tools just for that reason but if you have a specific niche or use case then it makes sense. I try really hard not to get sucked into buying M12 stuff that doesn’t very specifically serve a small/compact purpose
The thing is, some of the compact m18 tools offer similar power to the m12 tools. For example the m12 1/2 Impact Wrench and m18 1/2 compact both have a rating of 250ftlbs.
