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No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on RU-vid. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL. Yours are much more informative.
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
Thanks for your videos. I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top. All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site. If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
Thanks, man... after several years of debating, "woodworking track saw or not" I'm going to take the plunge and get the M18. After seeing dozens of review/comparison videos and the fact that as a professional remodeling contractor i'm already $10k invested into Milwaukee, M18 it is! I do have several other branded tools, pieces that stand out in their respective categories at particular price points & features so I wasn't set on Milwaukee but in this case, it makes sense.
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
Hi Kevin, I have the Mafell battery saw too, do you have issues with the blade vibrating during cuts? It spoils the cut when it happens, is my blade causing it?
Eh, they are certainly good for woodworking. But for someone who's a general contractor, milwaukee or makita is about only way to go to stay on one battery system.
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
I know I already stated this on your earlier video on the Milwaukee, but I'll say it again here: I have owned the Wen tracksaw for several months. Other than it being corded, I'm really not seeing THAT much of an improvement over it that the Milwaukee or Festool give. At least, not at nearly 10x the price, compared to the Wen. And, the Wen also has anti-kickback, and you can put other blades in it (I think I have a Makita 6-1/2" in my Wen now). And, the Wen also has the "scoring" option as well. Maybe durability will be a thing to consider in the long run, but so far, I'm impressed with the Wen. And it was under $100.
I bought my WEN about 3 years ago, and it’s worked great for my needs. I’m sure all the other track saws that cost far more money are likely far better, but they all have a blade that goes round and cuts as it follows a track. Of course I can put any brand saw blade on my WEN. If I used a track saw all the time, or took it to the jobsite as my table saw replacement, perhaps I’d buy something more expensive, perhaps not, as then I would worry about someone walking off with it while on site. I’ve never done an angle cut with it, so maybe it’s crap for that, maybe not, but what I do know, is that when I ordered the WEN track saw, with tracks ($150) from Home Depot, I was also able to order a Grizzly bandsaw ($600) through Home Depot, along with a WEN oscillating spindle sander ($100) for less than the Festool track saw or the Milwaukee kit you purchased alone, and I filled my shop with 3 tools I didn’t have, but found I needed. However, I now see that the Festool and Milwaukee saws appear to be selling for less than they were, even a few weeks back, but not sure. I know there are those of you who likely have complaints about the Grizzly bandsaw, but it’s actually a great saw and, numerous reviews rate it as the best value bandsaw on the market. No, it’s not a Laguna, but I’m very happy with all three of my purchases, and in the end, that’s all that really matters for all of us.
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw. I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
I’ve had the flexvolt saw for years, gets absolutely punished on site doing cement sheeting mostly and has done hundreds of whole houses, tens of thousands of sheets and still works perfectly Not as accurate as the festools etc for very fine work but a great saw for site use and abuse
I like that track saw... 1 week in use... Cutting cumaru deck like nothing... Same osb and play wood, but without batteries it 700+ € euros here... Not cheep at all
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
I got another brand of track saw recently. Some thin jobs were easy enough to set up and cut and then I decided to take a cut to straighten up and old door on the hinge side, it was bowed out of shape over the years. I realized why this type of saw would have been better with the blade on the left so that on wide jobs a right handed person can walk past the left edge of the job as they go. I had to use the saw left handed to do the job. And so I began to wonder why so many "Skil" like saws have the blade on the right for the same problematic reason. Anyway thats my 2 cents worth.
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
Why does noone talk about the DeWalt track saw? It's a 60v saw, the track has two usable sides and both have the splinter guard, so you can use one side for 90 cuts and one for beveled. Once you cut a bevel the zero clearance strip is ruined on a regular one! Also has 2.7 hp!!! Cost about ,$600 and is a very nice saw. Just wondering. Non of the top tool guys have even talked about this saw
I really like the depth of your reviews and I readily agree with the entire review with the exception of proprietary blade comments. While, I would agree that Milwaukee did come out with their own line of 6.5” blades for the track saw (which are suspiciously identical to the CMT 6.5” blades) however, most every manufactured offers multiple 6.5” blades with a 5/8” arbor. Milwaukee may recommend their blades, however, they are by no means proprietary.
I have watched another youtuber who intentionally skewed the milwaukee tracksaw on a hardwood maple and the blade stopped right away before doing any damage on the wood. So i think milwaukee replaced the antikickback with riving knife and the 1 second brake of the motor when you let go of the button
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features. There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk. Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it. I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories. Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident. Ignorance is bliss right!
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
I want to comment on your battery observation, 6AH vs 5AH. As mentioned in the comments already, the 6AH basically means the total amperage (power per se) the battery can provide in one hour, in this case 6A. Swapping a 5 and 6 should not effect performance except how long the battery lasts. The only time i think it would matter is when either battery is close to the end charge. Having said that and I don’t mean to be disrespectful here, but wonder if your observation was real or perceived? Maybe some experts on batteries can comment?
What I was comparing, more than anything, was the "High Output" of the 6 Ah vs the regular 5 Ah. The high output battery is, in theory, and what I perceived during this test, actually giving more power during the cut. There's an article here about them also news.ohiopowertool.com/milwaukee-m18-high-output-vs-standard-redlithium-batteries/
@@michaellacaria910 you are correct 5ah-6ah is just the "time" the battery will work for.... what gives a battery more "power" is it C rating, the C rating is how fast a battery can be discharged (and charged).... think of the C rating as on a graph , a high C rating will give a straight line for much longer than a low C rating which the power will drop off faster.... I know this from having 40+ years of using RC batteries
Jeez, your title made me expect that this Milwaukee Track Saw (that I'm considering purchasing) would be a disaster, and you finish with "This is an absolute awesome saw! There is nothing wrong with it".(20:27). I can appreciate the point (that you and others make) that it hasn't raised the bar with any game changing innovation among the best track saws available especially since Milwaukee is the last major tool company to produce a track saw, but my take away is, it . Your statement in your title "But You Made This" nearly turned me off from considering this product any further. All that being said, may I say that I have watched several review videos as I research track saws, and you are by far the most informed and effective product reviewer out there. You're like a video version of the owners manual. I suspect I'll buy this since I'm already tied to the M18 system, and when I do, I'll be glad I subscribed to your station so I can review the features again. Thank you Sir!
I am not 100% sure on this but my assumption with the foam on the lid is that if you drop/break the pack out you can replace it with a new one from a big box store and transfer the rubber pad and organizer insert. I would rather it use Velcro. But that's probably why it's sticky and removable.
I would buy a Festool Domino before I would invest in a track saw. Years ago I made two tracks for my old corded saw. One was 5 feet and the other is 9.5 feet. Both hang on the wall in my garage and I can cut sheet goods all day long on them. Plus, I made them both with an aluminum channel, and my saw rides in the channel and you can cut 45 degrees with no tipping. Both work great and I made them both for less than 30 bucks total. I have recently upgraded to the Cordless Dewalt saw so I had to recut both but they work and cost a lot less than either of these options. I break down sheet goods quite a bit when making cabinets but I find that my way works. Good video but both are just too expensive for what they do.
I just purchased the Milwaukee track saw combo kit and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. The High Output XC 8.0 that is part of the kit is $199 at Home Depot. I saw the same battery, new, for $110. I've watched a bunch of videos, and by now, I'm sure you have an opinion on what battery you would use in this saw, being you've been using it for a while. Whatever insight you can give is greatly appreciated.
I own both the corded and cordless Bosch track saws. They're every bit as good as the corded Festool, which I also own (actually, quite a bit more powerful, IMO).
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
Great video. I ultimately went with the cordless festool. One huge Pro for the festool as well is that despite having 2 batteries it can operate on 1! I was on neither platform so it just made sense to go that direction with a company that’s been building these style saws since the start
FYI, both Ryobi and Milwaukee are owned by Techtronic Industries, based in Hong Kong. Milwaukee was an American company that got bought by Techtronic, and I think a lot of their research and development is still based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In 2022, Milwaukee also opened a new engineering office in downtown Chicago. Have you ever tried the Makita track saw? I don't have a track saw. If I end up buying one, I'll either get the Milwaukee or a Makita since I have batteries and chargers for both platforms. I think the Makita saw doesn't have a riving knife, but some other reviews suggest that it cuts very clean. I have a shop vacuum that uses Makita's bluetooth system to turn on a shop vac via blootooth when you start up a compatible Makita tool, which is nice. I think riving knives are absolutely necessary on table saws, but I'm not sure if I think they're absolutely necessary on track saws.
Just as an aside, the Ryobi name is licensed from a Japanese industrial tool company that doesn’t make power tools, the actual Ryobi company has nothing to do with the Gatorade green tools So it’s a HK company licensing a Japanese brand name to sell tools exclusively at Home Depot in the USA Globalization in a nutshell
Honestly the price difference between those two rails is insignificant compared to the shipping upcharge. Even though Acme says "free shipping" on their thumbnail page, if you look at the detail listings, there is a "Special Handling Charge" of $349 for the both of those rails (!!). I've been drooling over a long rail for my Makita track saw and paying an upcharge greater than the price of the item for shipping is a non-starter.
ALL these dudes buying these name brand rails are silly gooses, when there is a way to get them for a fraction of the price elsewhere... aluminum is aluminum is aluminum
For electric I would go festool, for battery needs I would go milwaukee since I"m on the platform. I'm leaning to a festool one bc I don't need a cordless one.
Thanks! That's what I thought. I have a few 6 1/2 inch circular saws already and prefer the size and weight to the 7 1/4. I was confused about what made it require a proprietary blade.
There are quite a few other brands that make blades to suit the festool saws of all kinds, our local building supplier carry all sorts from cheap blades at around $20 each in the 160mm to nicer than the festool blades at around $300
To me Festool is more of a in the shop use tool. Where as the Milwaukee is better suited for the field like most of their tools. I have a Milwaukee 1/2” drill that is some 35 years old and it’s still going, it’s tough as nails. I have a friend who has the Festool track saw, I’ve used it many times. I just ordered the Milwaukee track saw. So we shall see.
That 35 year old Milwaukee will be made much better than their new gear, I have tools from most brands and Milwaukee is definitely my biggest returned for warranty, not built like they used to be unfortunately The festool saws are fine on site, they can take a lot of abuse and remain accurate
Made my own track out of 1/2" plywood used my existing cordless saw. Cost me a half hour and a scrap piece of plywood. Cuts as straight as a job site tablesaw
Hi friend, dunno if you know this, but Ryobi and Milwaukee are the same company! The tool designers are generally the same people. The Ryobi came first, and this Milwaukee is Take-2
They have separate engineering and design teams. Several videos showing each of them on RU-vid. One is in Milwaukee and Ryobi is in Anderson, SC. They are both owned by TTI, but operate independently, for the most part.
Awesome review, thank you! I went with the Kreg after you reviewed that one and I couldn’t afford the Festool. Hopefully Flex comes out with one so I can get that as a cordless saw. Until then I will stick with the corded Kreg. I totally agree that it would be a great saw for someone who is already on the M18 line or is wanting to start it.
The track saw prices are not reasonable. Only contractors can afford them. For a hobbyist it seems absurd to spend $900 on a saw and track. I think Skill makes a cordless saw and track kit for about $350.
Is the base plate made from aluminium or magnesium? I am asking as it very much looks like magnesium which is better, but it could be a surface treatment making it look that way.
Agreed, I too think Milwaukee was too little, too late on this one. I bought my Festool 4 years back and already committed. Maybe in 25 years when my Festool gives up its ghost, Ill buy a Milwaukee.
Great video! I would have been curious to see and hear the Festool cut thru the same piece of walnut with a single 18v and then dual. Anyway…great video…as always!!
Thanks for the great video, I’m in the market and shopping around and noticed some surprises, like the saw price alone means little if you’re not platform committed already because you need accessories with it. When you add track, batteries, chargers, clamps, dust collectors etc., that’s where the real price shows up. I’m mostly on 20v Dewalt tools but their track saw is 60v! Similar with Makita, they have 40V saw. MW at least has same battery voltage, that’s a big plus to me if I had MW tools, but I don’t. In conclusion I’m finding that the corded saws cost the same and in some cases more than the cordless ones in my area, so I’m leaning towards Makita because I’m not in the MW platform and the saw has great reviews and with accessories the ROI is pretty good. BTW you got a new subscriber, good video.
I Love the milwaukee nailers en impact drivers. When you make a brand new tracksaw and your competition (mafell, festool, makita,...) already has one, look at what they have and make yours better. In my opinion: fail ! When it comes to tracksaws, i think nothing can beat mafell. (If you use dustextraction, why a battery? just use a corded machine, max power always)
Majority of my power tools are milwaukee. I do have the packout system for my wall and the mobile handcart. I love Festool tools but I hate their 2003 printer looking boxes lol.
Like the video, glad you mentioned you paid for the saw and it was not provided. One thing about the Milwaukee warranty is that it’s completely worthless. Almost every single Milwaukee tool I have owned has failed within the 5 year period and Milwaukee has not once covered any of them under warranty. Milwaukee provides a limited warranty, festool provides a 3 year wear and tear included warranty. Recently I dropped my hkc saw and broke the dust port, it was fixed within 2 days and I was provided a loaner saw to replace it while it was out of service.
@@731Woodworks probably the most legit warranty I have ever seen. Legitimately fix anything while Milwaukee fixes absolutely nothing. Still a place for Milwaukee in my truck but they are Chinese made throw away tools.
What is this "cheap plywood" you're talking about? Lol! Great, in-depth video! You nailed all the questions I would ask with detailed answers and demonstrations! Thank you!
I don't understand why these track saws are so darn expensive for what they are. Basically, a circular saw on an aluminum T track both of which are dirt cheap.