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Miners strike | Coal Miners | Trade Unions | Margaret Thatcher | TV Eye | 1984 

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Edited highlights of the original programme.
TV EYE reports from the North East where the particularly bitter memories of the 1926 coal strike fuel the determination of the local NUM leaders to win the 1984 strike, however long it takes and whatever the cost.
First shown: 06/12/1984
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@davidlogat9338
@davidlogat9338 2 года назад
I was a 11 years old french boy and I remember that french CGT union sent a truck with clothes blanklets and Xmas gifts for Kids to Uk and a beautiful speaking from the leader. "Their struggle is our, too" Sorry for my bad english....
@jaif7327
@jaif7327 Год назад
your english is just fine
@alcoholicjoe6199
@alcoholicjoe6199 6 месяцев назад
We had a traitor in power Thatcher WEF controlled then we had Blair also WEF controlled ...these two bastards destroyed Britain ...i wish you well sir and thanks for your help viva la France.
@Jim-ok9zi
@Jim-ok9zi 4 года назад
I’d like to see what those areas look like today. Have they recovered. I’m from Australia and worked in the construction industry in the 60s 70s 80s I remember the unions collecting money to support the miners in Britain which I always payed into. Looking back now I’m not sure if the strike was worth it. If it costs $120 ton to a dig up coal and it’s only worth $40 a ton that’s not sustainable. I understand why the miners hated thatcher but if Britain didn’t change it would probably be like Venezuela today.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 4 года назад
no they didnt recover, no investment was made, massive unemployment, then massive disability due to the mining diseases, young peoples only choice was to leave wales, leaving the old towns an example of poverty, disability and old people
@heiroot
@heiroot 4 года назад
Thank you for your input. Written very clear to me.
@th8257
@th8257 4 года назад
The major city in the North east area, Newcastle upon Tyne, has had quite a lot of regeneration and has pockets of prosperity (largely driven by the two universities there). The other towns and areas outside of Newcastle have never really recovered. There was no real attempt to introduce any other kind of alternative employment, and even to this day, the local populace has some of the lowest levels of educational achievement in the UK, so it effectively rules out any of the new knowledge based jobs going there. It's a similar story across a lot of the UK - outside of the major cities, many of the old industrial towns have effectively become a kind of receptacle for old, the sick and the left behind. It's really the story of Britain's industrial decline since the 1800s - clinging for too long onto old, inefficient, loss making industries that had no future, but not really making any successful progress in equipping large parts of the country to deal with the new realities and the changes that were necessary. It's not only been a failure of government but also a real failure of British culture. We are still to this day very stuck in the past in many ways, and wear it like a ball and chain.
@Jim-ok9zi
@Jim-ok9zi 4 года назад
Jusb1066 Thanks for replying. Sometimes change is difficult. Maybe the government should have gave incentives for companies to move to those areas affected by the mine closers.
@Jim-ok9zi
@Jim-ok9zi 4 года назад
T H Thank you for such a detailed reply. Maybe government should give incentives for companies to relocate to the areas still affected.
@DMAN-ey1nb
@DMAN-ey1nb 7 месяцев назад
I find it interesting that people were so loyal to this dirty industry. I think these days there’s more social mobility and flexibility in the job market, people aspire for better.
@anythingbootneck
@anythingbootneck 4 года назад
A very interesting piece of history.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 5 месяцев назад
Scargill began a fight he could not win.
@Theocracy8
@Theocracy8 4 года назад
Soon people will be scrapping for something else. History just repeats itself
@steven-vn9ui
@steven-vn9ui 4 года назад
Repeating it is the saddest thing :(
@leorcinnsneachta7269
@leorcinnsneachta7269 3 года назад
The sooner the better. Workers and the commonman have lost every battle against the neoliberalist neothatcherites the past 4 decades and they're only ramping up their measures even further
@creedwesson5652
@creedwesson5652 3 года назад
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@rudyarcher4928
@rudyarcher4928 3 года назад
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@sylashouston5093
@sylashouston5093 3 года назад
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@Pjay444
@Pjay444 4 года назад
1:30 you know your life has taken a turn for the worse when your driving a Lada Estate! poor poor man
@tonyclifton265
@tonyclifton265 2 года назад
that's the union rep - he has to be seen to drive a shit poor car so the miners wont beat him up, but he probably had a rolls royce at home really
@conormcfadden399
@conormcfadden399 Год назад
@@tonyclifton265 the working for the bergousie is a thing that only really happens in weak unions that aligned themselves with capitalism. For the most part unions reps and leaders in left wing unions are elected and come from the same working class conditions as their supporters
@craigisaac8411
@craigisaac8411 Год назад
Sad to see the closure of the pits end of an era 😢
@jonathanleblanc2140
@jonathanleblanc2140 4 года назад
Thanks Thames !
@jonnilongmire
@jonnilongmire 5 месяцев назад
What did miners get payed in 84 compared to the average wage? No mention of it anywhere.
@superducker7899
@superducker7899 2 года назад
1:15 any limmy fans in?
@wendygordon6140
@wendygordon6140 Год назад
What a wee shame for the miners I can remember it I was only wee my dad played the drums in a pipe band it's a long story but I have so much respect for unions and the minors x
@jujulionesselsa1416
@jujulionesselsa1416 2 года назад
Miner's strike flying pickets
@Highland_Moo
@Highland_Moo Год назад
I was born in the late 70s and grew up, and still live, in the Scottish highlands. I remember watching the strikes on tv and although I didn’t understand the politics behind it, I overheard my parents and I felt terrible for the kids my own age who were kids of miners. Now I feel so much worse, knowing the miners were treated so terribly. I was old enough as a teen to understand the impact of the closing of steel plants like Ravenscraig here in Scotland in the 90s as it was all over the news. Seems like little has changed - a government who cares little for people who actually want to work and earn a decent wage, I work for the NHS as does my husband. It’s always the worst off who suffer most while the Tories reward the rich and corrupt. Nothing will ever change as far as I can see and it’s pretty grim. To all those who suffered back in the 70s/80s and 90s, I am so sorry you guys had such a shitty time of it.
@burgerplace9764
@burgerplace9764 Год назад
What about Linwood in Scotland? - All the factory workers seemed to do was strike even with a good wage! Strike over the colour of overalls.
@nialloneill5097
@nialloneill5097 Год назад
Thank you for your commiserations, but for myself, the suffering and pain led me to a spiritual rebirth, which has brought me untold wisdom to understand the world, something that I had always sought, although the behaviour of the Tories, and their bands of robbers from the circles of the rich elite, I find utterly, utterly incomprehensible. Everything that has life breathes within it the words 'let there be light', and must come from out of love, for love is all, and thus it returns to love, setting up a mighty heartbeat and cycle that constantly flows between God, and His many servants and Creation, and so it should continue, less decay sets in, for creation only knows movement. Thus, a loving person, and particularly leaders, should think primarily of the needs of their neighbours, whereby all their thoughts and actions stand resoundingly as a fanfare, and hymn of thanks, to the Almighty, the Creator of Life Itself. Everything that opposes this concept can only come from darkness then, and must be evil, the root of which has to be fear. And it is fear that prompts many to surrender their human virtues and qualities, be it fear of scarcity, rejection, abandonment, failure, being alone or lonely, stigma, a lack of possessions, and many others. Thus, having travelled the Road Less Travelled after over 30 yrs in a mining village, the one whose closure precipitated the national mining strike, and having had to move for work, retraining and a mental health restart, and being the recipient of many grave forms of institutional violence, as were the mining villages, I finally came to the place of spiritual rebirth, and knew that a traumatic transformation of the earth was not only needed, but coming, and imminent. What we do for others, we do for ourselves, if it is done with a true heart, and not for reward, then yes, this is a great start, and in working for the NHS, you are working for the people, and thereby God. This was the mindset I had when I shovelled for hrs on end in the mines, and had serious back aches, for I was working for the all, and therefore the Almighty, and for this, it was worth working, and working hard, real hard. In my home town this attitude, of all for one, and one for all, led to over 50% of the town being owned by the 'people', at a time when people could leave their doors open, and of whom many would give you their last penny. How times have changed? The Strike was a pivotal moment for the darkness, to whom the rich and greedy belong, for they had sold their souls to Satan long ago, mark ye well. So there is no pt in hating them, as they are pathetic and lost, but they have made a system that reflects their insanity and depravity, of dog eat dog, for fear produces competition, and with it destruction. Thus now WW3 and a nuclear holocaust will soon come from out of the shadows of hatred and envy that has abounded in the world for a long, long time, and begs the question to each and every man 'man, how do you stand'. For all of us must now reap what we hath sown, although men rarely recognise their true selves and motives, but despite their ignorance in these matters of morality, this is perfect justice, and belongs to the law that states thou shalt reap what thy has sown. Any ensuing karmic suffering then can and should lead us back onto the Road Less Travelled, which is now full of many thorns, for men stopped using it long ago, abandoning it for a life of ease, into which their spirits were tempted, as they fell into a deep, deep slumber. So fear not, and tarry not, of and in these earthly planes, by proffering your selfless love and kindness within the NHS. So may I wish you and your kin well and blessed, as you did so to and for me, and I sincerely hope that you rediscover the meaning of life, eternal life, which is deeply embedded in the words, 'love thy neighbour as thyself.' Thank you again, and all the very, very best to ye!!! Have a good day, and year!
@JK-br1mu
@JK-br1mu 10 месяцев назад
Jobs exist because there's a demand for what's being produced, usually at an affordable price for the average citizen.....socialists and unionists turn this around and act like creating jobs for jobs' sake is how it should be done, and it's not. Will eventually come crashing down.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 5 месяцев назад
Labour began the privatisation of the NHS.
@jongreen6422
@jongreen6422 Год назад
As a kid I remember sifting through coal sut in the out house n pit yard for my mam to keep our house warm, Hard times but United times also, hated Thatcher and still do today
@stuartboswell3103
@stuartboswell3103 2 года назад
I bet Arthur wasn't doing it end of
@MarkHarrison733
@MarkHarrison733 Год назад
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s. The Soviet agent Wilson closed twice as many coal mines as Thatcher did.
@-FreeMiner-
@-FreeMiner- 15 дней назад
No
@Turnbull50
@Turnbull50 4 года назад
This strike was a total waste of time and the pits still closed.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 4 года назад
They tried at least,
@dackesjulag
@dackesjulag 4 года назад
@@jusb1066 Yes they tried and I felt sorry for them and there families struggling but at the end of it, Scargill hoodwinked them and was lining his own pockets for imself..
@LeighRichards27
@LeighRichards27 4 года назад
@@dackesjulag think youll find he said before the strike the thatcher govt wanted to close down dozens of pits - and he was proved right. And he didnt line his own pockets - that was a proven smear from a known mi5 agent placed in the num (roger windsor)
@FHIPrincePeter
@FHIPrincePeter 2 года назад
@@dackesjulag Too paraphrase ultra right supporters on immigration: Arthur Scargill was right!
@alfielisles6097
@alfielisles6097 2 года назад
@@LeighRichards27 He didnt line his pockets!?! What about the massive house that he bought right at the end of the strike, the adress of which had to be kept secret so that it didnt get smashed up!
@burgerplace9764
@burgerplace9764 Год назад
These miners thought that mining was going to be forever. The mentality of job for life in this country is shocking! Cushty jobs, want to work less - the productivity of this country is on its knees.
@conormcfadden399
@conormcfadden399 Год назад
What a lack of understanding of materialist objectivism does to a motherfucker
@ropaul8006
@ropaul8006 Год назад
Rubbish
@robertbarrett2494
@robertbarrett2494 9 месяцев назад
Dense lumps
@stuartboswell3103
@stuartboswell3103 2 года назад
You followed him blind
@richardboswell9306
@richardboswell9306 Год назад
We got rid of her so I say we won
@richardboswell9306
@richardboswell9306 Год назад
No we didn't ,we were fighting thatcher
@richardboswell9306
@richardboswell9306 Год назад
@Bessie Hillum no if your a torie then you lost as the uk is breaking up scotland, Wales,hopefully northern Ireland then us in the North perhaps Cornwall not very much left also truss is gone ,rushing next
@richardboswell9306
@richardboswell9306 Год назад
@Bessie Hillum what has the tories done nothing but misery now run along little torie pup back to your masters your lot are finished and no I don't like kia either he is just another torie in different clothing
@richardboswell9306
@richardboswell9306 Год назад
@Bessie Hillum your a yank what do you know
@tonyclifton265
@tonyclifton265 2 года назад
at 5min20, when he says "campions" he's trying to say "campaigns"
@noplace82
@noplace82 Год назад
Trying...and succeeding, in a Mackem accent. Quite typical of those born and raised in Sunderland.
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