Minsc And Jaheria Fight Dark Urge - All Options - Baldur's Gate 3 

Same vibe as Zalbaar killing Mission back in the day

it's just like turning in the nightsong to lorroakan, after that bringing isobel to her and kill her infront of her that was brutal

That was the most heartbreaking moment I've seen, especially after playing Bg1 and 2 D'x

@@jedi_connor3030 - Fucking Hell… I had put that out of my mind so long ago. It was so wrong 😖

I think you meant to say "fckin' HILARIOUS". ;-D

Bhaal approves

Well you can always kill Shadowheart's parents immediately after releasing them from Shar's grasp. That's pretty vile too.

​​@@quaestor856 yeah but mind controlling someone to kill their best friend is worse

Zaalbar welcomes Minsc to the club.

nah. giving nightsong to that one lorrok mage is worse.

Acting unwise

“It is an honor” No, it is a hamster”

​@@F1shyBab1shy "What hamster? It is not a hamster, it is a Boo"

No no, minsc says “no it is a hamster@@cataclysm2773

I like Minsc just as much as I despise Jaheira.

@@thisisaname5589 REAL

sadly jaheira killed herself on my durge playthrough in moonrise, so i couldnt see her til the end, really regret that seeing how she seems to be now.

She left for me after she agreed to help me kill minsc

I killed Isobel and still managed to have Jaheira join me!

You can still recruit Jaheira after you kill Isobel. She stands with you as all of the last light residents turn undead, then questions you to which you can reply "wasn't me mate, no idea what happened."

First time I tried to do an evil playthrough I gave up after act 1 and the recruitment of minthara. It’s genuinely difficult to put yourself through it 😂 I suppose that’s just good writing through, when the evil playthroughs are just that. Evil.

@@TheStanDudley I killed minthara after killing the druids AND then i killed all the goblins, Surprisingly, your party does NOT treat you as evil, if you kill the goblins after killing the full druid camp o.o So strange.

@@TheStanDudley I played evil durge on my 3rd playthrough, legit had to quit the game because I so devastated after betraying Zevlor, I remember almost every Tiefling that I was striking down. Had to take a break and go back to my good playthrough for a few days :(

I’m in in I n n in in i

@@omgwtfbbq11111 I did a good playthrough and I felt bad just seeing those who died in the Shadowlands because I had talked to them at the party the night before (I put off the party until everything else in act 1 was done). Like damnit why was there no option to accompany them and help protect them 😕

Its Boo's turn next 😈

Yea seems if you don't have her in your party, she falls on her own sword repeatedly

She didn’t die for me but she did run right through a wall of fire. So did many of the harpers though

Gotta use sanctuary if you really wanna save her. Thanks to the patch 4, the allies now try to avoid dangerous AOE areas so make a good use with the AOE spells.

You are supposed to go back to moonlight inn before going to the tower@@pantheracheaxb747

Like someone else in the comments here pointed out, if you really want someone you don't directly control to survive, Sanctuary is a great way to do it. But timing it correctly can be tricky, so watch out for that. Still, this is your best option to make her survive the fight, if she happens to be overly aggressive. Throwing things like Shield of Faith on her also helps. In my personal experience, I've found that the best way to keep Jaheira alive is not by healing or protecting her, but by offering a strong opening offense move, thinning the ranks of the enemy before she can act more than once. The more enemies you take off the field, the less they'll have to spank her with. Focus on taking out the weaker guys first, just to thin their numbers and if the stronger dudes start beating her up, then you can switch to healing and protecting after. Always worked for me. Come out swinging and keep a close eye on her health at all times. Pray that she shifts into an animal form sooner rather than later, since the damage she suffers while wildshaped doesn't carry over to her normal form (except for the superfluous damage that broke her shapeshift).

Who the hell's Steve Jobs?

Of course, she is ancient - but she still has work to do.

@@joelkorhonen3170 I mean she's only ancient because she's a half elf. If she were a full elf she would be young, sprightly, and just easing into adulthood. Minsc was a statue by the way. That's why he's alive 100 years after BG2. Probably the same for Boo as well (he was part of the statue) but I'm not so sure. I don't know the average life expectancy of a miniature giant space hamster...

​@@cmwinchellYou say that but the fake Viconia hasn't weathered the last century all that well either.

@@cmwinchell yeah they hinted at that story (the “stolen ranger statue”) right from act 1, I thought that was a cool detail to add in. There was a letter or poster about it and how there was a reward for finding the beloved ranger statue. I assume he was in a preserved state like those frozen statues in the Underdark and was released with a basilisk potion 🤔

@@elenalizabeth Minsc was released from petrification in one of the D&D comic series "Legends of Baldur's Gate" by a wild magic surge of a sorceress. Since he was no longer a statue, the people of Baldur's Gate believed the statue of "The Beloved Ranger" had been stolen. Acc. to Forgotten Realms Wiki, this happened somewhere in the 1480s DR, which means it's been 12 years since Minsc up and walked away by the time BG3 is set. Either the rewards poster is old af or a relic that survived the ages far from Baldur's Gate.

Keep in mind that over a 100 years have passed since then Jaheria comments that’s she is not as strong as she once was, and that she has been hoping a new generations of heroes would come and take over for her. And in Minsc case I’m not really sure if being frozen in time while encased in stone impaired his abilities at all but it wouldn’t be strange if it did

@@audioapegaming3334 As for Minsc, he got tadpoled just like the rest of the party who's banter all indicates that the initial tadpoling severely limited their abilities for a time while they readjusted.

The funny part for me was that I never used Jaheira, so when this happened for me she was still level 1. The fact that game doesn't make either of them an NPC again and level her up to be a threat in case you don't take the time to level up companions you never use is hilarious.

Yea. Seems like heroes of old but died pretty quickly under my smite crits

Actually, end of tob is 8M exp, level 40. minsc is arguably the worst companion bar Wilson, you might get past him, even tho I seriously doubt it. Jaheira on the other end… let’s put it simple, I don’t think you could hit her realistically, and she can cast Druid hlas, lvl7 Druid spells (dolorous decay) and have access to +4/5 weapons. Good thing it wasn’t Edwin or Neera or any arcane spellcaster, they would evaporate anything in bg3 with a horrid wilting/incendiary cloud

Thats a fantastic twist! I hope the devs get ahold of that and weave it into a future update cause that's brilliant.

oh gosh thats so beautiful and so sad

Oh, this is good. :D It's on par with the character concept that the DUrge is also Evil, but secretly resents Bhaal's "hand on the wheel" as the Urge, so to speak. You have no true control over who and what you kill; you're just a vessel for Bhaal's whims. So after you reject Bhaal's blessing and Withers resurrects you, you bask in the congratulations of your companions for having "beaten Bhaal", but inside you exult in the satisfaction that none of them realize that you were complicit in the killings all along.

And thats why Gale is forever Bae

he’s kinda iffy on us being bhaalspawn but astarion was that guy, fuckin it we bhaal

late comment but it makes sense. a durge isn’t TOTALLY evil if gale was allowed to leave the portal

Wouldn't make any sense. I mean, there's the option that DU would do it themselves if they defy their father at the last moment after the battle, but it would be foolish of Jaheira and Minsc to trust someone who, as far as they knew, was hell-bent on being the psychopathic killer that does Bhaal's bidding

@@munchkintaker4263 we got a level 99 check for the brain, it's not impossible

​@@magic_cfw Bad example. Ability checks do not allow to do everything, DMs usually do not even allow to roll for something like that since it is a zero chance of success, the game explicitly states that the evolved Elder Brain can't be subdued by a non-mindflayer. The Brain's check is quite literally an impossible check, the critical success gives you only a certain advantage in the final battle. Critical success only gives you the best *possible* outcome, even though DnD all this time did not even allowed crit success on ability checks in the first place, and under the new d20 test rules - crit success/failure matters only up to a point. In other words, Jaheira isn't a fool - it would require her to become suddenly dumb and defy her common sense to make them trust you to not control the Brain.

So you were high on emperor's koolaid

@@kitten_with_bad_breath no if Jaheira isn’t alive there is no way to convince Minsc that you are the good guys, or at least that’s what I’ve seen

Yeah you need Jaheirq alive to recruit minsc

A Man of a culture I see

If in party they leave your team, but you will still see them on the bridge

This happened to me but jahiera lived the last light inn fight and then I passed an intimidation check for her to just leave. Eventually in act 3 she just showed up in my camp like we were good buddies. she didn't last long as I was doing durge things lol.

To be fair, only 1 of the 3 main evil Durge rewards isn't laughably garbage (Deathstalker Mantle is so brokenly OP...while the Slayer form is a joke and the 1-time-use Power Word: Kill is hilariously weak with its 100 hp limit) to the point where the epic redemption arc story of a good Durge blows away those meager evil rewards out the water.

"random militia dudes and a hamster" LMAO You really made me laugh with this one !

She is definitely going to regret that later. Emperor only saved Minsc because of us

You can do a redemption run durge.

What happens then?

@@elenalizabeth I don't know, but knowing the game, they probably have considered you could fail the check and usually there is an unique scene for it (or at least a line from the narrator), and even if there is notthing (and the dialogue procedes as with a different option) the video could have shown it

@@97Zexion97 "and even if there is notthing (and the dialogue procedes as with a different option) the video could have shown it." Goodness, what a little monarch you are. The video creator opted instead to showcase one particular way things could play out because they felt like it. They don't owe anything more than that to you, no matter how much you feel like they "could" do it. You *can* find out yourself, instead of going around critiquing artistic labor of others based on whether they could have made it more precisely to your own subjective specifications.

Play as Dark Urge, embrace Bahl's Blessing after killing Orin, and have Jaheira and Minsc recruited before you do so.

trying to find out as well

No, if you bring them with you they'll leave the party and wait outside the temple.

Too bad that obviously can't be what happens, since the only way for Minsc to be there in the first place is to get his ass handed to him and spared by Durge. Minsc owes Durge his life, it's only fitting for him/her to get to collect.

More ways of addressing the break with jaheira and Minsc would be good. But your idea would backfire horribly. Going after her kids would motivate her more to go after Durge in that scenario

yeah. like she really expects us to die just because she thinks its better than to be chosen? fuck such friends and allies. let those shortminded idiots rot

Actually Jaheira was pretty powerful in BG2 (more than Aerie or Viconia for referance). Also - if the game sticked true to the previous ones, she'd be like level 40 and dual class xD.

@@Rarian92 Aerie wasn't useful very much, that is true, but my gal Viconia was a backbone of my party sometimes even in good playthroughs

@@Rarian92 She does say that she's not nearly as strong as she used to be and was hoping for future generations to take over for her, so chances are she's EXTREMELY rusty

@@Andriej69 You high? Aerie's access to both Arcane and Divine Magic made her an absolute BEAST. I will acknowledge that she grows slow, but the amount of versatility and raw spell slots she gets makes her insanely powerful.

@@luminozero Making Aerie a "beast" took a fuckton of min-maxing, and I prefer to bother with it only when it comes to charname, if at all

For the most part, parking them permanently in Camp is a good way to keep them around, their camp lines offer enough free approval to offset the major decisions if barely. So long as you don't kill the druids, you can have anyone there, even Halsin has lines for being a Baalspawn ally (although he does his damndest to convince you not to go through with it before and is dismayed after).