Minuteman Loadout - How Many Mags? 

Good point about conditioning. So many focus on “gunning” but can’t run a mile without dying.

I’m a crippled up old man. I’m gonna have a pile of mags with me because I’m not going anywhere.

In a firefight,you can never have too much ammunition

Always thought of the Minutemen as being a QRF, or Fast Response to any potential threat. To effectively respond “ in a minute” a colonist would have to throw down the plow, grab the essential minimums and go. So your travel quick and light is spot on.

Great Video! Did a year in Iraq as a Contractor. Whenever we went out on an assignment / escort our minimum load was 8 xtra mags for the M4 and 3 xtra for the pistol. This allowed for enough ammo to hold you over until "back up" (the Military) could arrive. We also carried xtra mags in our vehicles as well as water and trauma kits.

So when I was doing overseas work I would carry in between 4 and 6 on my body chess rig 30 round magazines sometimes we were issued 40 round magazines. And then I would always have a ditch bag close by with another six magazines for my m4/Colt commando I would also carry Three magazines for my sidearm and also three magazines in my ditch bag for my sidearm we were doing a lot of vehicle operations. There is nothing worse than running out of ammunition now when you on bingo ammo it sucks it's a very sucky feeling. Also for those people out there that think that everyone always leaves their gun in automatic I only switched to my weapon to full auto five times from operating from 2008 to 2016. Me personally I'd like semi-auto so I don't waste ammo

I carry relatively heavy at 12 mags on my rig. I always train carrying that rig so as to be conditioned to it. I have it set up to carry ammo, hydration and an IFAK only, everything else is in my pack, including two or three bandoliers of extra ammo on stripper clips. My main motivation in carrying so heavy is to be able to have a bit of extra for a team member that may not be fully equipped. The “better to have and not need, than need and not have” mindset was ingrained in me from a young age. ⚓️🇺🇸

I've been watching and listening to different people on this subject and a lot of special operators carry 3 on their vest and 1 in the weapon on raids. One of the reasons for this was so they could get lower on the ground. When I was deployed I actually carried about 6-8 on my vest. I've done a couple of Tactical Game Skirmishs and find my self much more agile with just 4-5 mags total and a vest stripped of as much excess weight as possible. It's how I'm rolling in the future.

Everyone should set three kit up for there own situation. I could barely fit behind the wheel of a humvee with over 6 mags in front. If you deploying away from from your area, you might have to have 15 mags. If no ones gunna restock you, then take everything you can. If your close to home in your area of operation, then you could probably keep 3 on ya, one in the rifle.

I ran 7 30rnd mags and a bandolier in my assault pack over seas. You can go through 7 mags doing suppressive fire alone.

You just got another subscription. I have six in the carrier and one in the rifle, plus I carry three pistol mags. If that doesn't solve the problem, I am toast anyway.

I think 8-10 mags is probably perfect for a minute man. Especially when the people around you may have the weaponry but lack some of the same equipment or preparedness, carrying more gives you the ability to dish a couple out to friendlys so that you have more of a force. Also adrenaline mixed with the lack of training means a mag may go very fast in a firefight, better safe than sorry.

Thank You for your service Josh.

6 plus one in the gun is the most common loadout I see. Having a vehicle or nearby location where you can resupply ammo on stripper clips (plus food, water, etc...) is also great if your situation warrants it.

Thank you for what you do.

For those people that don't think that this guy knows his shit I personally did some research on him he knows his shit people need to listen to him. If shit ever happens you want to man like this on your side. I would love to have a man like this as an instructor on my side if you ever needs a job he could always have a job very quick.

Thank you!

Another great video sir!

Excellent points here! I always enjoy your informative videos. As a fellow Marine I got your 6. 👊🏻 Semper Fi

Great video I like your opinions.. and you back them up !!!

Thank you for your service and great information! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

First time seeing your channel I've been missing out. Like your style brother

Always appreciate your videos. Thank you for taking the time. I also appreciate you sharing what you train with and how you prep for those of us who are trying to live debt free and, in doing so, aren’t willing to rack up a credit card for Gucci gear! That being said, I’d like to hear your thoughts on how much ammo, not for training or practice, that you think is a decent amount to set aside with preps for long term storage. Thank you

I really appreciate your no nonsense informative videos. I also appreciate you for not being a gear snob. My type of guy. I do my best to stay in shape, but with my severe scoliosis, I'm just not going to be as agile as some. That being said I'd probably fit the role of regular militia better than that of minute man. I do agree with your minute man loadout, but given where I feel I'd fit in best, I usually carry 6 plus 1 magazines. That 210 rounds should provide me with enough ammo to lay down some suppressive fire for a short while if needed. With my bad back, I find it easier to carry my loadout on a cummerbund. I can carry 6 Stanag mags, 2 Glock mags, a knife, 2 lights, an IFAK with a spare tourniquet along with my sidearm. If needed, I might add a water bladder pouch which gives me a few more compartments where I can carry a few more mags, nutrition, and other odds and ends. I'm also a type 1 diabetic so I need to have nutrition with me at all times. For missions that might require more gear, I also have a chest rig set up to carry as many as 9 mags for a total of 10 plus everything I carry on my cummerbund setup, but with my back the way it is, I hope I don't ever have to run far with that loadout. My cardio fitness is great, but there's nothing I can do about my back. That's why I prefer carry everything on my waist.

I think it’s absurd to go willingly into an armed conflict with anything more than a Spiritus Micro Rig with 3 mags. Because if you’re gonna die, you should look like a tier 1 flannel operator while your perforated carcass is laying in a ditch with crappy drawers. Make sure you have your kestrel, laser rangefinder and a GPS in the $79 utility pouch. Because if you’re taking incoming fire, you’re definitely going to want to take time to range the target and dial in your Nightforce optic and take one precise shot. Everyone knows that watching your impact and implementing a holdover to rapidly engage a target is for noobs, and you’re only an operator if you have your dope chart in your multicam wristband. Don’t be a poser. All those pouches filled with extra mags are for larpers. Your belt should have nothing on it except your sexy plastic holster for a glock with a red dot and flashlight plus 2 extra pistol mags you’ll never use in a fight. Never put any other gear on your hips just because that’s where you’re anatomically best equipped to carry a load. It doesn’t look cool. Everything, including your lunch, wet weather gear, prescription meds, land nav, and night vision, should all be on your chest rig. If it interferes with your reload in a fight and you die from it, it’s only because you didn’t spend enough money going to training courses where some washed up security guard yells at you about your split times and not flicking your safety back on fast enough while you’re rehearsing how to navigate the numerous pouches on your loadout. Get good.

We always ran 8, last ten were tracers so we knew when it was time to think about topping up, one in the gun, all tracers so everyone knew what we were engaging when we reacted to contact and 60 on strips. Speed loading a mag you tac reloaded with 20 rounds from the clips to say 28 or 29 is almost as good as 30. It saves you a few ounces and its more flexible at the cost of convenience.

My LBV 88 holds 6 mags and it has 2 grenade pouches. I put two ten round mags in one of the grenade pouches and a lensatic compass in the other. I'll soon have the belt, butt pack, canteen pouch, and ifak pouch. In the butt pack along side one or two mres, poncho, woobie, and water filter I'll have a couple mags stowed... It'll be a nice recon/ qrf/ minuteman piece of kit.

Well put for a Younger man, thought out and precise. Planning your movements inside your AO (i.e. your property) will provide stash locations in your area. I have cans placed and marked.

You do well explaining and breaking down this information

I think your load out is plenty. I like your channel bro. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼🇺🇸

I carry the “standard” US magazine load, which is 6 carried mags with 1 in the rifle, I did that as I started out with old Alice gear and using old LC-1 mag pouches, since then I’ve upgraded got some nicer new gear but I still carry the 6 mags on a plate carrier, Every now and again I might put a few more in a pack, so I have some extra to hand out or to resupply myself if needed but carrying 10 on your person at one time is really pretty insane

You’ve earned a new sub!

Been there, done that. In my time, (as I recall) we carried a minimum 220 rds of 5.56 in 20 rd mags. Usually we carried more as loaded mags in three bandoliers of seven mags each (plus one mag in thigh pocket) Most of our guys did movements on foot, not vehicles. For a MM, I would suggest you would need at least enough ammo to break contact plus mission requirements (I am assuming even a basics of operational planning). I look at a minimum of seven mags now (odd how that number relates to my old Marine Corps number). Any force that use Unarmored Personnel Carriers (foot bound) does not have immediate resupply available. You must carry what you need for the mission. That must be the first rule of operations. Once someone learns the need to be armed to live, funny how it just fits into their contuing lifestyle. Good topic. Semper Fi

omg I don't want a "Leeroy Jenkins" type in my crew but I catch your drift 10 years ago the usual youtube gunnies advocated carrying as many as you could, like 12 or more. the logic was that we will not be resupplied. some time after that thanks to GT and Trex the lightweight movement began. these days I have my trusty jpc with 4 mags with level 4 plates. I've also got my 10 year old 5.11 tac tec chest rig that holds six mags. the latter can serve as a bandolier since it holds extra mags. I can go either way depending on the situation. your video makes sense, thanks for the knowledge transfer regarding mobility and just being real when SHTF. cheers man. subbed!

The right answer is.. as many as you can manage.. slow fire combat = 1mag per minute.. So the question isn’t how many mags do you need.. the question is how long do you want to be in the fight? If you walk into an ambush and need to break contact.. you’re looking at 45 rounds per minute best case… by the time you return fire, find egress and communicate and start to move.. you’re bounding out with no ammo with a 4 mag load…. The 7mag std is actually deprived partially from this very concept.. return direct fire move and communicate while doing so and have enough to have proper egress with effective fire. Meaning at the end of that single engagement you’ve spent 7 full mags.. Many tall about you don’t want to fight.. if you have to move flank and pick off couple at a time blah blah.. all great concepts considering you’d like be at any point facing an superior force so no matter how good you think you are you can’t take them head up.. Ammo is about the lightest thing you’ll be carrying.. making an argument for 4 mags 4 lbs or 8 mags 8 lbs Is minimal.. for fn sake an empty plate carrier with lv4’s is 16lbs! But everyone larping around in them.. Let’s also keep in mind.. that 7 mag basic load out used to be 8 and before that it was even 12 at one point.. why did it go down? Usage of vehicle transport and supply line.. non of which would be available is any situation where localized minutemen or militia would be needed.. Qwot rarely more then few hundred yards from a vehicle loaded with water and ammo cans or preloaded mags.. Want a better look at combat look at Ukrainian war footage.. those troops on both sides have limited at best resupply but still better then anything we would have in shtf… they are carrying over 100lbs of shit.. they have as man mags as they can fit.. as much water as they can carry. Everything else is optional.. seen guys wearing vest over vest both loaded.. 2-2.5g water tanks as butt packs.. that’s is what war looks like.. not a superior force riding around in armor getting out for small patrol and getting back into armor.. weeks and weeks in the field wo supply..

i like your view point of the mnuteman being the spec ops of the militia. as for mags and gear in general, theres an old "proverb" that states ..."the mission dictates the gear"... and i personally believe that should be the standard. of course you should have a base number of mags, and i think 4 is likely that number. however if your assaulting a location you very well might require much more. if your simply doing a scouting mission, sneaking around to gain intel, you very well might require much less, or none at all. (if your doing some covert gray man sillyness. depending on the mission of course. great video.

Interesting video on recon equipment. 3+1 = 120 that's a good minimal carry standard equipment load out . Being a rag bag civilian that's a good thing to have in the foot locker . If we find ourselves in a SHTF odds are a lot of prior would come together rather than loan wolf ? Take care of the FEET high top boots Ace bandage wrap or duct tape around the ankles for extra support don't Jack your ankle. From the heavy load .

We had two type loadouts. Patrol , 4 on body one in rifle. Gunfighter loadout 9 on body plus one in rifle. Trimmed down pack. Two quarts of water ifak. Poncho dand liner. Optional shovel crowbar on one troop, sledge on another. Good blades!!!! Omg good blades

So many Veterans, and I am one, always mentioning conditioning while ignoring the elephant in the room. Many of us are disabled! Now how do we still be effective given our 30 plus years of experience?! I for one know I more deadly than your average bear, I am getting old, and I am pissed off from a life full of disappointments... I can honestly say I would be a nightmare to most. So maybe you should make a video about the issues for DVs and how they can still be helpful

I carry 4 Carbine and 2 pistol mags on total . I'm for sure Chest Rig fan . Staying fast and Light is what I prefer .

As a former Infantryman I always carried ur basic combat load which was 7 mags in my plate carrier and I had a extra mag holder which attached to the buttstock of my M16A4. And maybe a couple extra mags in my assault pack if mission dictated. But I have a set up very similar to ur load out now with one mag in the rifle and 4 AR mags on my chest and I also have 7 pistol mags and one in my pistol so 8. And then I have a extra box of 100 9mm and 60 Xtra. 556 in my assault pack .

8x AK mags or 12x AR mags. Also, depending upon available transport, add or remove mags for mobilities sake

yea that would be cool, thanks dude

I carry 10 rifle mags and 4 sidearm mags. I use a carrier without plates. I have 2 fast reloads on my belt (1 rifle-1 pistol) with 2 sidearm mags in covered pouches. This is my do all setup and somewhat light. I have lvl IV plates for immediate home defense. I will bug-in as long as I can with horseback/vehicle as bug-out options.

7, 14, or 21. Depending on your chest rig. Then again, it also depended on your weapon load. If you want to get to brass tacks, you need to figure out your plate, what you are wearing, what you are about, what your mission set is. I ran different... jobs, back in the day, and the main, "job" of the day dictated what I was doing, what i was carrying. Just as is said, you have to be in shape, and know what you're about.

My mindset is to prepare to self-rescue. You may end up alone after the shooting stars, even if you didn't start that way. I'm not saying to have a bus on your back, but be prepared to have the tools and skills to win. Get as fit as possible. Strengthen your tendons and joints will prevent injury.

I have 6 mags. One in the rifle, 3 in my carrier, and two on my belt. You can blow through 3 mags in a single gun fight easy. Its good to have spares in case you have a magazine malfunctioning

I do carry all 15 on my chest rig and a molle pouch. it's pretty heavy but I won't run out of ammo in a fire fight. haven't really worn it and walked around alot. I should probably do that. it might change my mind.

1 in rifle 4 in chest rig...5 more in bag with back up rifle

Having been in the Marines and in combat makes you an expert. Don't sell yourself short brother. You have good knowledge to pass on.

Like everything else it all depends on what your planning on doing. I work from my patrol car and there is 1 mag in the rifle and 2 mags in my seat caddy. I also have an ammo can in the trunk with 4 extra mags in case we get into something that requires more. But I also carry a pistol and 4 mags for it on my person to fight my way to the rifle if I have to. I also have a shotgun fully loaded with 7 rnds with an extra 25 rnds of buckshot and a box of slugs in the ammo can as well. The Isreal attack really made me ask myself whether I have enough ammo with me and others if I need to pass some off to others.

Commenting as a historian buff, there are still photos and combat film footage of World War 1 and 2 combatants, mostly GIs, Tommies, and Jerries (they had the better Signal Corps to make the record). Besides wearing the individual ammo belt, many slung bandoloeers. others carried those green boxes for machine gun belts undoubtedly with magazines and cartridges on stripper clips, even loose, for small arms. And there was one picture of a squad deploying a hand wheeled cart loaded up with crates following those in front in action with submachineguns. James Colburn starred in a movie, "Cross of Iron" about a German squad on the Eastern Front, and his group had a couple of guys toting a large crate with extra ammo. Maybe this occurred in real life. During Viet Nam, American warfighters were known to carry as many magazines as they could in pockets and additional pouches and improvised kit like canteen covers. Those stubby 20 round capacity magazines are still useful, compact to stuff where you are able and assume a lower prone position. And in action you don't want to get killed or injured trying to retrieve an empty one because its the last one that can be recharged.

Damn that's how I look at . good job . and 10 looks a good number of mags,300-500+-

My setup has generally been 4 on my chest rig, 4 on my belt, and 2-4 pistol mags on the belt. But... Tiers/layers are a thing. You have your tier 1: Your EDC. This may or may not include a knife/multitool, light, lighter compass, sidearm. Often includes a basic survival kit and a snack. Because we live out of our pockets. You have tier 2: Your battle belt. That would be your sidearm, knife, canteen, spare mags, IFAK, etc... You have your tier 3: Your chest rig/plate carrier. This would predominantly be your mainstay fighting load for your rifle and other mission specific gear like smokes/grenades, etc... And your IFAK if it's not on your belt. Tier 3: Assault/3-day pack. Mostly mission critical tools that don't fit on your rig and some limited sustainment gear. Extra mags, maybe some essential foul weather gear like a poncho, etc... This needs to be be kept streamlined and light, as it is something that you would still likely keep on you in a fight. Tier 4: Rucksack. This would be your sustainment load. Primarily extra ammo, food, mess kit, extra survival gear, snivel gear, shelter, etc.... This is not something that you would take into a fight with you and, thus, would not really be "minuteman" kit. But it would be essential for sustained operations abroad without resupply. This would be cached somewhere before any planned fighting, so as to be able to move more quickly. Some schools of thought start with Tier 0 instead of Tier 1. Call it whatever you want. The point is to be able to organize your gear into layers to make it more manageable and scalable to what you are doing. With this in mind, you can better organize your kit and better decide how many mags you need based on what you're doing: Just a "ready to rock" minuteman kit in your vehicle or closet? Maybe you run a light chest rig with 3-4 mags and forego the belt and bags, with the assumption being that you already have an EDC CCW on you to fight your way to your rifle. Moving light and fast to observe and avoid detection? Maybe only 3 on your rig and 3 more in an assault pack. Doing a long range patrol? Maybe you go with 6 on you and another 12 split between the two bags. Establishing a framework and planning your loadout based on the mission will allow you to streamline your kit to just the necessities and improve your combat effectiveness. Having several such loadouts for different mission types ready to go might not be a bad idea if you have money and space to spare.

I carry 8 AR mags in my FLC, with one in the rifle. I have four in a bandolier and 3 in another detached pouch.

My thing is 15-20 mag's ( quick access ) , being in the shait and running out of ..... can't really get the results that you would want in asking the ones sending it at you " to hold on while you reload your mag's 😎 . What the mission requirements call for + 3 in my moto 😁🤠.

My old style LPV holds six plus one in the gun .. 7 unless you know there is a gun fight you CANNOT avoid .. ie homestead defense .. in that case I am taking a .50 cal can full of loaded mags to my defensive position and using them first

I believe for a shtf, you would most likely be more of a recon roll trying to avoid contact or a firefight and if it did occur you would suppress enough and get the hell out of dodge out of a firefight, you would not be getting resupply drops and also you don't have other team members most likely scenario for at the home front with that said to each is there own I like light and mobility I run 4 ar mags and 4 pistol mags all together based on this particular scenario.

I own 20mags, my kit is set up for 6+1 as I was told to carry that many as infantry in the army. METT-TC is real though, may carry more in a ruck or assault pack but don’t think I’d ever carry less than 6+1 on my kit

How many mags? Yes.

Rule thumb: risk of contact versus time away from base

Magazines are one of those things that you just buy a few of every now and then until you have a shit ton

I carry 10 AR mags and 6 pistol because we are not part of the military, and we don't have access to resupplies. Of course, depending on your op, you may need less.

I think a minute man should have 6 3 on vest and 3 in pack plus the one in your weapon that is 7 mags that is plenty

If your tactical fitness is non existent, none of this matters outside of basement tacticool cosplay fashion shows. If you can't maintain accuracy out to intermediate distances (300m) and situational awareness while under a load and under stress, you're are fooling yourself. Check out The Tactical Games as an example of where the bullet meets the bone for tactical fitness.

I personally carry 8 in my kit. One in the gun and 7 on the rig. Not too heavy but 240 rounds should cover it and I can pass off a mag or two if I need too

Min 13 but if carrying another weapon system like an underslung 40mm, shotgun, rifle grenades, RPG, LAW, or a pistol for a specific purpose along with corresponding ammo then maybe 7 to 10 rifle mags.

For me 9 on my plate carrier, 2 on my belt, 1 in the gun, plus 2 pistol mags on the belt as well.

Do you have a link for the magazine carrier you use?

For every klick away from resupply, take another mag. But that's a minimum...

I carry up to 4 x 30rd mags and 4 x 40rd mags but as you say it depends.

6-8 for me. However only 3 on front to be able to get low. USMC Semper Fi!!!

My plate carrier set up with 3 ar mags and pistol mags each my old school alice set up has 6 ar mag capacity 2 pistol mags

When you live in a state that only allows you to have ten rounds per magazine the answer is all of them!

Chest rig i run has 10 on chest rig 2 pistol mags additional 1 rifle and 2 pistol on belt and1 in rifle and pistol. I also have a saw pouch full in my patrol pack.

7 is the standard. I’d put 3 in the ruck. My opinion. Maybe checkout LRRP units my thought is the smaller fighting force should put more rounds down range but I have a rig with 4 plus 1 in rifle, maybe put a coupler on rifle mag for 6mags but I’m all over the place. Depends on what your doing. 🥴

It depends. Are you planning on a rapid, extremely violent hit and run assault or a more protracted drawn out fight?

Good vid. Shouldn't the minuteman also carry a dump pouch for empty mags? I have a surplus Finnish Army gas mask bag that I drape, via its shoulder strap, over my neck and right shoulder. It hangs at my left side. I'm sure other folks have different set ups.

Another issue is what caliber weapon are you carrying. 5.56 you can carry more than 7.62x39. If 7.62 NATO, quite a bit less. Also consider your mission. Are you Overwatch Marksman vs regular militia. If Overwatch, I'd carry something with reach and accuracy, like 7.62 NATO and less magazines, as I won't be blasting anything that moves.

It is best to figure out what works best for you, or rather, what your intended mission is. A minute man very much comes across as a QRF with a base where you can resupply. If that is the case, carrying as much ammo as you can while not sacrificing mobility is your only real answer

Technically a minute man is described as an ordinary citizen ready to drop what they're doing and fight or respond in a minutes notice. Anyone with a weapon or certain skills can be considered a Minuteman. World war 3 does not need to start for the need of a minute man. You could witness a car accident in front of you and have the skills, training and gear to be that Minuteman.

I run the same was 3 on the chest so you can lay flatter an less is more most time

I think as a minute man your responding to an event without supply lines. A military force is only effective if it's supply line is working. Plus the opposing force is most likely going to have reinforcements. My opinion would be 9 mags min. Spread the weight from hips to chest and have a pack with at least 6 more loaded and easily accessible. Those reaction forces are going to be out maned and under supplied. Be ready for anything and everything.

Like a small QRF, or light infantry

Another great video man, what was the variable magnifier you were rocking on your rifle before the "downgrade"?

I carry 3 on the chest rig and 3 in my pack. I'm not patrolling for badguys or assaulting compounds. If a special situation comes up, I'll take more but that's almost a non-existant scenario

IMO, 4 mags for recon/patrol 8+ for static/vic ops

As many as I can carry on my person .

Looking for decent ak47 mag pouches or chest rig any suggestions? My AR15 plate carrier is good to go, it’s the new rifle “ak” needs a load out kit! As far as mags well as many as you can afford with the ammo to go along with them of course. Keep in mind the military will not come and give you a resupply when ammo is running low! You will have what you have and be your own resupply!

I keep a covered tourniquet on my rifle stock as well. Seems like an under utilized opportunity.

At least as civilians we have the option of wether we are weighted down by armor plates. I have armor for in home but if I'm out moving about I'd rather have the mobility with about 4 to 6 magazines and no armor.

All of em

I say unless your mission dictates more or fewer magazines, you should stick with the standard infantry combat load of seven magazines (210 rounds).

Remember people the United States is not a war zone one shot one kill. As what I train and that's what I train my associates how it should actually be in real life is two round center Mass one round cranium aim for the xiphoid process on the chest if you aim for the xiphoid process you have 50% chance of hitting the heart and 50% chance of hitting the longs either way your enemy is taken out of the fight if your enemy has body armor aim for the groin or aim for the head. Always remember if you ain't small you miss big if you aim big you miss small that's the reason why I teach people to aim for the xiphoid process. Also there's some rounds that you can order from Israel that are tungsten black tip 556 they have very good ballistics for being a 65 grain round they defeat a lot of steel plates

Never Enough Ammo. I like 8, 1 in the gun six in the harness 1 in the back pocket the 911 mag.

I got a chest rig that can hold up to 8 mags and a webbing belt that can hold up to 7 mags, I have wore both and carried 15 mags total but it's stupid heavy so normally amonky carry 7 mags

I keep 5 30s &3 60 rd double doubles so 330 eds is my comfort level🤠

I’d rather fight from my compound where mag count don’t matter as much but if I’m going off the compound in SHTF I’m going out with 9 mags for rifle 2 extra pistol mags.

Always see people talking about how many mags for their AR/AK but what about the person running a shotgun or running a long rifle, how much ammo should they run (or would be considered “standard” military load out”