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For everyone that thinks they are trying to scam you or whatever. These are not normal shellac records nor are they vinyl records, these are discs which were made just for testing. They were usually thrown away after the final pressing. These records are made out of a cheap laquer which was sprayed on a metal disc. Some radio stations also had recording studios for people that wanted to just press one record, they were made the same way.
I have over 300 pre 1930s 78 shellac discs that I inherited from my father ... to be fair I haven’t found any of them in that condition and they haven’t been out of their sleeves since the early 70s. Would this be a different material recipe?
Cellulose nitrate coated aluminum (or glass during WWII) “instantaneous” recording disc; also used for master recordings. Not the same as pressed shellac discs at all. Sometimes, these are called, in error, acetate discs. The shavings are very flammable like old nitrate movie film.
I would worry a bit about perhaps vacuuming up the acetate if I used my 16.5 cleaner. Have you run into any problems since you posted this video 7 years ago?
This is really only useful for lacquer records. For shellacs, if you want it as clean as when it was cut, RU-vid search “joe bussards cleaning method”. This is by far the best way to clean them. It works wonders. You can tell they did this by the bottle of mrs meyers clean day soap bottle seen in the background, which is non concentrated, and preferred to use when cleaning these
update: since a year ago ive done extensive testing with the shellac compound the record companies made, and discovered that vodka is actually safer than water to use on 78s. samples were allowed to sit in vodka, water, isopropyl and many other chemicals to see what would happen to the material for 1 hour. the vodka one was slightly damp and a little weaker, and developed a light haze, which when it dried out went away. water turned the record into a almost wet cardboard consistency and it fell apart when i picked it out. every other chemical melted the shellac/dissolved it. so instead of using that old water and soap method, try switching to pure distilled (no flavors or sugars) 80 proof vodka, which cleans like isopropyl on vinyl, but safe for the compound.
i dont know what they used exactly but a great method for removing palmitic acid deposits (what you saw on the transcription disc) is probably a mixture of 50 parts Disc Doctor 50 parts distilled deionized water 1-2 parts clear ammonia as recommended by www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_Disc_Transcription.htm NOTE: Do NOT attempt to clean a transcription disc by yourself if you dont have the proper tools as shown in this video, a full list of the right tools can be found on the above website!
I have some extremely old 78s that have just been tortured by a metal needle and thus have the all too familiar hissing. Any tips on how to perhaps mute down this hissing besides turning the treble to minimum?
i have a califone 1130k with a double sided stylus with .7m on one side for 33 and 45 and the other side is a 3 mil "synthetic sapphire". im saying the record im playing were at one time played on a old phonograph with the very heavy tone arm and the steel needle that wore it to heck.. and i later found out no i canot restore the grooves.
Eduardo Squidwardo update, I look back on my past self, an idiot. The acoustic recorded records were never equalized, because they couldn’t be. So the grooves were always hissy. All I need is a oversized needle
@@truesoundchris i know this comment is old but ive learned a hell of a lot over the course of the year and i now use a dual 1009 with a VM670SP cartridge/stylus (which greatly increases sound quality and mutes the high frequency hiss), and those records i thought were damaged were actually just being played on the wrong player! of course i still have a few that are genuinely damaged, but theres no fix for that!
the formula is probably a mixture of 50 parts Disc Doctor record cleaner, 50 parts distilled deionized water, 1-2 parts clear ammonia, as recommended from www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_Disc_Transcription.htm these are specialty transcription discs which over time excrete this palmitic acid which is seen on the record. these were cheap disposable records back in the day.
its a lovely compound called palmitic acid, which is part of the lacquer spray coat on these records. it separates over time and comes to the surface and can be cleaned off with the process found on this website: www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_Disc_Transcription.htm NOTE: Do NOT attempt to clean a transcription disc without the right equipment. they are highly sensitive to any form of humidity and can be ruined if not cleaned properly. use the process at the above website to learn how to do it and what equipment to use
I've seen that. I don't think it leeched out. Could that white be an inert separator applied intentionally very easily removed used instead of paper to stack discs (in this case ones that would probably never be played once they'd been broadcast) protected from mold due to moisture in the air? Once mold is on an acetate or any mixture used it changes it forever, destroying the grooves. www.shellac.org/recording/record5.html
That is very un wise Move thing to do as I've got Several Pre war 78rpm Records Mainly Yehudi Menuhin Records in My own Collection and what I always do is use luke warm water and a drop off fary Platinum washing up liquid and a clean Jay cloth and I rub into the groves on both sides of the Record and leave for about 5-10 minutes to let the soap take it's work and then I rinse under the cold water tap and dry and replace into the cardboard sleeve
Mr. Q. Do a Google search for "palmitic acid on transcription 78s" and you with see many images of disks which look just like the disk in this video. These are not commercial 78's but transcription disks with a nitrocellulose laminate surface. What you see is the actual cleaning of an actual disks, plus a sample of the actual audio transfer we did after the cleaning. Not "bollocks". BTW, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
Specifically lacquer disks are prone to palmitic acid. Check out the following website for a great discussion of this topic: psap.library.illinois.edu/collection-id-guide/phonodisc
will it is a transcription disc. If you were a true collector you would know that radio stations and independent recording studios would charge a small fee for anyone wanting to cut a record onto one of these discs. They are not made out of shellac but instead early plastic-like materials that do leach liquids overtime.
It’s made of lacquer, and these were notorious for this issue.. also it was expertly remastered and digitized. Search up some remastered songs then search the original of it here on RU-vid, you’ll see what technology can do
