Miscellaneous Myths: Narcissus 

Oof.

hold on i just realized that i was the 420 person to like this

Suitors: weall do anything fow you mr narcissus pwease Narcissus: Anything? Suitors: Anything for you mr. narcissus :3 Narcissus: Then *perish* Suitors: D:

I’m the 715th like

And I'm the 911th like... uhhhhh...

PyrusPerseus me too 😂😂

Haha..plot twist..Hercules is actually a part of ROMAN mythology instead of Greek mythology..I’m a nerd 🤣

@@auriii9419 Hercules is just the roman name for Heracles, the great-grandson of Perseus. So he was originally a greek hero.

@@user-wq7ms7eu9j They're still right. Hercules is the roman figure, Heracles is the greek. They aren't wrong.

@@DeathBringerBecky Only technically correct, but correct.

There's a version of the myth where his own ego and looks aren't enough, so Eros shoots him with one of his love-arrows while he's looking in the pool. I like this version better.

I mean i think it makes more sense. If he’s never seen a mirror before, how did he fall so absorbed with his own attractiveness to begin with?

@@JaelinBezel Likely because everyone else is describing how beautiful he is all the time. Even if you can't personally see yourself, if everyone says you're beauty incarnate you're going to believe it.

These stories were originally religous and so drive home a firm moral. Unlike modern moralist stories though the characters feel somewhat human and the intensity of emotion and drama make it interesting.

@@rollingthunder1043 I like this version since it doesn't imply Narcissus has never seen a mirror or reflection of himself in his life.

awwww, I love thisss

I would kill to see this

**frantically starts writing** i like this idea

Yes, yes and yes

WhOOAAAAA YES!!!!!!

...Is there ever even the slightest implication that Artemis might have just kinda been into girls? Or a confirmation she wasn't? Because when you put it like that-!

@@Archris17 well, considering ancient greece didnt really like lesbians or wlw, there is no confirmation whether if she was into girls or not. But in modern world, she's usually depicted as a lesbian or into girls

LoZ Collector I’ve read a couple sources that say “Virgin” in that culture was more indicative of “Not Married,” so Artemis might’ve been fully on board with the WLW just not with the vows of marriage

Drew oo o I also heard that in Ancient Greek times being virgin just means not being penetrated by a dong

According to Red in her video on the Endymion myth, there’s nothing to imply that Artemis was into guys OR gals. The only romantic relationship she had was with Orion the hunter.

Wow somebody had the same idea. Nice job dude. How would a Greek dating sim work tho? Is it like a normal one, but for every good answer you give you piss off some god?

Yasssss

I'd buy it

I second this.

Mine too! Do you take Benjamins?

Probably both

Himselves

Question: If you'd fuck your clone would that be investous?

"There haven't been so much love in this room since Narcissus discovered himself" (Hades, 1990s, colorised)

Or it would create a god of ego

That's... real creative! that would be real fun and/or interesting!

yea but imagine how complicated that'd also be

@@ThomasJefferson-xc8wg knowing most visual novels it would mean either solving one simple puzzle every couple hours to pick a route and/or grinding through tins of word puzzles to build up affection points to unlock scenes.

I would play it even though I hate dating sims and being the worst person with puzzles

YES YES SO COOL!!!

That would make a good short story. In the end, he could figure out how intolerable he is, and the lesson could be there's more to love than Beauty

@@roberteischen4170 @Fif Gallag Do...do I have your permission to write this and submit it?

@@megaabsolangelgamer3996 go for it.

@@roberteischen4170 YES! Wonderful, thank you!

Talk about a great horror story.... wow.

Yes!

Base a religion around you mate, I'm tired of seeing you everywhere. Lol

You're starting to get top comment again

Mood

Wait... I just saw you.

I find this highly amusing The man that most modern people think of as a top, Achilles, was most likely a bottom This is where you tell me Iolaus topped Heracles.

@@laurakastrup Oh please, Heracles was a POWERbottom; full stop. 😂

Patroclus was also older than Achilles. Aaaaand might have been his cousin.

@@Xalerdane stop ruining things for people

Wait what? Achilles being the main character would make you think he'd be top, since it was the position that wouldnt get you laughed out of the room.

That sounds fun

YE

Zagreus wants to know your location

OR...POLY RELATIONSHIP?

Supergiant, taking notes: good idea, glad I thought of it.

Where did get that comparison?

@@iceluvndiva21 When I was younger and reading up on Narcissus (I am Greek and have always been a super Greek mythology nerd) it described the flowers as they were in ancient days and that was roughly (couldn't remember the wording so I went with conveying how bad the smell was in my own wording) how the smell was described. I believe that modern Narcissus have been bred to have a pleasant smell because people wanted them in their gardens without it smelling like a murder was committed 3 days ago.

Helios575 So...redemption arc?

Welp. Great.

Isn't it a Daffodil? Daffodils are lovely. I think the term refers to Jonquils which are like mini daffodils.

Survival dating sim is my new favorite game genre that doesn’t exist

I love that because there’s so many options. Apollo’s route would end with you dead for sure

@@AndreaRodriguez-cj1kt Apollo's route ends with the player as a nice plant in a garden

Voivoda Dracula You have to choose wisely--not just your favorite NPC, but also how to not die or face some other horrible fate. (example: Zeus-->Avoid Hera's wrath, Aphrodite-->Avoid Hephaestus and Ares at once, Artemis-->DON'T CONFESS TO OR STALK HER FOR ANY REASON)

Fun!

That is... really an excellent way to look at it. I feel better already.

Brett Hall well yeah I have hay fever so for me summer is HELL

It is also from hairspray in the song without love

Plus Hades gets to spend more time with his wife and Persephone has more time to play with Cerberus.

Or for those in the southern u.s....dang it gets hot done here

if you win, you become a constellation

Ooo, unlockable achievement trophies!

@@redwitch12 Possible achievement names: Error: Safe Word Not Found Delicate Flower I Speak for the Trees All Is Fair (In Love and War) Caught in the Act Animal Torn into Pieces Happy Deathiversary! Children Are a Blessing Meet the In-Laws Sibling Rivalry I Plead Innocent I Plead Guilty I Plead Insanity I Plead the Fifth

@@jonquilgemstone YES. YESSSSS.

thats the achievement page

A horror dating sim. Genius idea. Would fund.

how to fend off apollo : show him a hyacinth flower

@@parrotenthusiast1181 laurel would probably work too lol

There are several comments about this game becoming a reality, but this one is the best.

It so would id dump cash on it

Ah, so you’d be playing as Medea...I like it!

I can dig a sudden swerve from Dating Sim to Hitman Ancient Greece Version.

NOOOOOOOO NOT JASON NOOOOO😢

Alison Swick True but there’s Orion, sooo... Ace only maybe?

@@wot_m8181 He wasn't a romantic partner

@@BM-ts1yi He could've though

Oh no, how horrible!

@Shannon Munroe Red said in a comment on a later video that she was wrong, and Orion was just a friend

SylenDraws It's what he would've wanted

It's literally the name of a disorder at this point

would he have wanted it? he's immortalized, yes, since he has a mental disorder named after him because he was the guy who suffered from it most prominently.

Well nowadays he is quite literally everywhere. Its almost as if he managed to possess a good portion of the human race.

Relatable

Well to avoid the getting killed by zephyros part you never play disc with apollo

Your best bet is going for hades tbh (minus the whole persephone is wife thing)

@@maddilinekathryn5684 if you're good at the costumizing character tool Persephone will think you're cute and will keep you as a pet

@Thomas S. True true very true

what if Apollo as trying to prevent deforestation and overpopulation IN ONE SHOT?

Why 10 years long? Was the war that long or did I forget shit again

@@fabi3790 yea the Trojan War was 10 years long. Not really sure why. It just was.

@@fennetheartsyenby troy was just that tough I guess idk

Lmao

Echo f*cking sounds 10x more metal

If you know where to find this version plz tell I wanna read It

IDK why that sounds like Ovid but it does

Timothy McLean I like this theory

That or a caring mother taking care of business.

Timothy McLean demigod powers? what makes you think this karmic embodiment isn't behind the scenes going "all you idiots think your good enough for my daughter? HUBRIS!"

Demigod powers? Do demigods ever have any innate powers in Greek mythology? As far as I know it's always their parent's backseating, or Hera accidentaly breastfeeding the guy in one case.

Sometimes, you get the most epic horse gift which, really, in those days, was a pretty naughty thing when it was full of naval soldiers. Did...Did I say it right?

You expert mode

You mean expert mode

Oh no... it's a new pairing!

N: "You know I'd just be punishing for cheating on your husband, right?" A: "Ooh, can he watch too? That sounds like fun!"

First of all, this would be such a cool relationship for Aphrodite to have, second, since Aphrodite is love how come I haven’t heard any stories of her loving women?

@@adeleaslan8182 IKR

It could be a cute pairing.

I've heard one version in which he tried to kiss his reflection, and he was so heartbroken when it rippled out of sight that he committed suicide

Narcissus, The patron saint of *_Masturbation._*

Joyce that is the only valid thing I've heard someone comment in their life that was valid

Honestly, you're right about that. _Seriously._

wait,that happened????ppppphhhhhhaahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!

He WOULD assume she just wants to hang around his neck.

Gayer than...Dream Daddy? 😃

Is Greek mythology so is going to the BI-EST dating sim ever

@@randymercedes2511 I am in favor of this.

@@jdatlas4668 me too

Gimme gimme

I read that too! Plus when Narcissus finds his reflection he tries to talk to it and Echo, being Echo, accidentally makes him think it's a water nymph when she's really just hopelessly pining even after his rejection. She needed a man/woman who could treat her right. (Also another girl whose name I forgot asked Nemesis to give Narcissus his just desserts and *that's* how she got involved. I love Greek mythology.)

Wasn’t she originally a mountain nymph? And since she’s vanished all except her voice that’s cursed to only ever copycat, she kinda just lingers in mountains now

Someone should write a fanfic where Echo finds a good man and finds happiness

I don't think that's what it was intended to mean. More like, his beauty is represented in the beauty of the flowers.

Got em

Plus now he can reproduce, or "pollinate" with beings of equal beauty...

Mister Moon Thank you Rowlet

Now thats some extra salt for the wound.

Well, more like Aphrodite curses your stepmom, which ultimately leads to you getting killed.

Well it depends, Narcissis was rejecting love from anyone he didn’t find suitable vs an asexual person who’s genuinely not interested. Aphrodite would punish people actively rejecting love.....probably didn’t get Narcissis him self because he was a genuine hotty. Basically if you are not a male who’s beauty is on the scale of the gods, you shouldn’t reject love. ......if your a woman who’s beauty revivals Aphrodite I highly suggest you get in good with a powerful god that can protect you from her.

@@Cangeltibon I think that's a matter of perspective.

Derek Bates That’s true

@@Cangeltibon and knowing is half the battle.

Bad ending? You're a cow. Bye dude.

Bad endings? You're now a spider. You're now a constellation You're now a flower etc. etc. etc.

I'd pay for that, at least you always have Zeus to be your backdoor man.

This is what I live for. I would pay good money for that shit.

No matter whom you romance, they always turn out to be Zeus in disguise.

The two most common ones are those last two Personally I enjoy and was raised on the plants one

I've never heard of c but w ow does that sound really aesthetic??

@@tybaltia16 yeaj essentially it's that he stared so long that flowers and vines grew up his legs and arms until he was just sorta a weird bush man and at the last second he realizes he's a tree now

I heard he straight up stabbed himself because he felt bad about how much pain he was causing his reflection.

All of the above. He stood and stared and wasted away, drooping over the pond like his very flower until he wilted so much he fell in and drowned

Damn even divine power can't stop his narcissism

you know, there isn't a really canon to mythology, your version could be just as viable

It wouldn't let me pick Red for some reason. 1/5 Needs more reflective pools and less people under a 10.

me

only a madman wouldnt pick Red ;)

Izzy I was.

So did I but I got the one I picked

It's called Kamigami no Asobi. It's also an anime

@@sailoritaly is it any good?

Apparently. It's got a 7.3 out of 10, so that's good at least (Haven't played it myself since I have no interest in men)

@@sailoritaly ah shit. I though it was gonna be both gods and goddesses oh well. You can't win em all.

Of course Artemis is friends with echo, she’s friends with all the nymphs

She pays Nemesis to lure him to the reflective pool that she herself created-

She would do that

For girls I think that the hephaestus route would be like a beauty and the beast sort of situation where despite hephaestus having a messed up face the player still falls for him due to his gentle and kind nature

Amphitrite and posiden were in an open relationship; change my mind

That awkward moment when each and every one of them is a rapist...

@@flynnvoid7694 Ikr its messed up.

Pseidon also tends to give his lovers some cool gifts too. He'll even make you a guy, he don't judge.

Ha! True

NOOOOO OOOOONE... Rejects like Narcissus Is beautful like Narcissus When he goes out for a fight, no one hunts like Narcissus.

Narcissus ate dozens of eggs?

Except that Gaston was at least into Belle.

When I was a lad I had four dozen suitors Every morning, so my head got large. But now that I'm grown I have FIVE THOUSAND suitors So it's roughly the size of a BARGE!!!

2:04 Thanks for the Kiss from a Rose tag

I like that

Or that retribution or revenge is blind and does not care for the innocent

…Hera sees this and also curses Echo with illiteracy.

IKR, I would Buy it, I would be a Money Seller

TheCaliMack There’s a god dating sim pulling from multiple different mythologies including Greek called Kamigami no Asobi. It’s also a pretty good anime :D

Because most people don't want to be raped by a bull?

There is one in the game called Lovestruck called Astoria: Fates Kiss and you can date Hades and a bunch of godly monsters like Hydra and Medusa but they’re humanized

Natsu Dragneel shut up and take MY money!

Piper Hays Except the American education system lol

They weren't gay, it literally just says in the Iliad that they were just close friends

@@itsrdr3708 with benefits

@@smellulater1123 another reason i loved my 11th grade history teacher-- he was meta enough to just straight up tell us that Achilles and Patrocles were lovers and that's why they made us read the Iliad and odyssey in reverse chronological order-- they didn't think our young innocent brains could handle the gay subtext of the Iliad

ItsRDR but their “friendship” has a lot of gay in it

“So four goths walk into a room...”

Add Philotes into the mix it'll be even more chaotic (goddess of friendship and also daughter of nyx for some reason)

@@ponyosurlafalaise1186 including the other kids like the Fates, Hypnos, Morose and other bad omen gods, it would be a family of goths and the one preppy black sheep

Shine Bright Like A doitsu that’s a bruh moment

Are you, perhaps, a Doitsuist? I'm just curious...

@@jaxvipre8606 nice to know the fandom is getting bigger again

@@brokendoll6741 it never stopped expanding, brethren.

What the hell is going on can someone tell me please? Why im switching faster than the channels on tv? Im black than im white,no something is in't right. My enemy is invisible,i don't know how to fight. The trembling fear is more than i can take,when im up against the echo in the mirror.

"Fake News" -Donald Trump

especially nowadays with all the "selfies" and instagram "models".

Thing about that is, there was a serious "know your place" element to the idea of hubris. It wasn't so much not being arrogant, as it was trying to be anything you weren't already. Most of the stories that lasted long enough publicly to get written down were heavily weighted in support of the existing orders of the time. So every myth with the element of hubris was really telling people rebellion against the temples and whatever form of city leaders was basically pointless and doomed to failure. These are the people who made Prometheus, the creator of mankind, the bad guy in his own story for giving humans fire and with it civilization. That's not to say that the myths are entirely without merit, but Greek myths particularly made a habit out of revising local folklore into a larger pantheon by way of socio-political revisionism, and character modification.

Not at lot of them had bad endings. Persus had a happy ending with him marrying a princess, his adoptive father becoming king and living happily ever after with his wife, two mothers and father.

Why? isn't the Bible enough to tell us how bad Arrogance is? in fact all Humans suffer because of the Hubris of one particular being.

Greece: become Narcissus.

Ah yes, self-cest

Did Odysseus right this comment?

7 years worth of content! What are you complaining about?!

Ah... I love intellectual jokes

What about the Circe route? Surely that chain didn't take as long.

I keep loosing Atlas' route--

I think there was one story the was deeper than looks a loan

David Bost, he’s more like a guy who took one too many WEED smoakes.

aka *_T O X I C_*

That metaphor made me crack up.

So the flower he turns into is known for looking amazing but smelling absolutely horrible

*The good ending*

That's literally how my last conversation about greek mythology ended XD

weeeeeeeeell, kind of... but he was also overcome with sheer longing, so, debatable.

😐🤔😨

LMFAO

You're a JaidenAnimations fan, aren't you?

So, reverse medusa?

This is me.

JAIDEN ANIMATIONS-

No, he's the exact same, that's why they named it after him. You're thinking of social anxiety.

Sounds like a fanfic waiting to happen

Um, you mean me?

same

Nice Jaidenanimations reference

I'm sure there is but he is too nervous to tell his story.

Patrick Oswald Ponferrada you can pursue her or she can be your wingman ( just don't declare anyone or yourself more beautiful than her or she'll pull a just Monika on you)

*I'm not sure if this is an add up or something else*

Idea: Aphrodite just randomly spawns into the game to offer help

Ever heard of Kamigami no Asobi? It's a dating sim where you can actually date Greek (and Norse) gods

@@sailoritaly probably not as accurate.

Andres Marrero Eh, probably

How many years is that?

@@andresmarrero8666 A little over ten years, assuming be time format is hours : minutes : seconds.

@@MatsuoTanuki geez how much content did they pack into that route. Almost as long as the odyssey. Or half of it.

compared to that, Patroclus is only 17 hours into that route, and it feels like there won't be much more...

assuming your doing that route as a job, working 52 weeks a year it would take 42 years and 7 weeks to do

I mean, he isn't a nice person, but he doesn't deserve to slowly die, especially since rejecting someone and them suiciding as a result of it isn't murder

I keep thinking about which characters would be hardcore mode, like trying to date Apollo or Helen and don't died.

Same

Ha

It’s not that special lmao basically every myth has this one dude who’s like super cute and is said to be the most beautiful/handsome person alive so being called most “handsome” at this point is like being a child of Zeus you ain’t special but if we’re going to get technical here Narcissus is hotter the Alcibiades as Alcibiades is a real person while Narcissus is a fictional one obviously a fictional character is going to have more perfect features then a real human being but they both have trash personalities

Honin Akecheta good news then, I managed to look it up and the game on steam! store.steampowered.com/app/757540/?snr=1_5_9__205 It’s simply called Oedipus Dating Sim. No idea if it’s available elsewhere.

rynard: There is no free will in that story. He will date his mother no matter how hard he tries not to. Everything he does to try to not date his mother will lead to him dating his mother.

Musical Hell Love your videos 👍🏼

So I guess we can call Narcissus a selfish fool who never understood

Where is it??

1:49

Tru, thx

Wait, who's the ace?

@@somerandofilipino6957 Red. It was in one of their Q&As. I don't think she specified her romantic preferences, unless she mentioned that another time.

Yeah, i think she said she's ace but she is into romantic stuff. Their Q & As are so interesting!

BreNine didn’t she have a relationship with Orion though?

@@Gooberwares Yes. She did love one man at one point during her immortal life. I don't think Artemis was supposed to be ace/aro. I'm pretty sure it was just a personal decision she made about how she was going to live her life.

Who would you date?

Kaori Miyazono I would date Hecate.

And you gotta remember to (under all circumstances )close your eyes when he tells you to.

You also forget that Eros is totally a good ending. It's just that to get there, you have to play a shit ton of point and click games.

Read the Cypria (especially Fragment 8). She also has an appearance there.

She’s one of my favorite underrated goddesses for a reason

His loss. I'm straight man and I'll absolutely be friends with Ameinias

I think Michael from the Stranger in a Strange Land video is also super cute. I am getting attached to that guy. Michael and Amenias do look pretty similar. Both of them are super cute guys with fluffy hair. Fortunately Michael does get a lot of lovey dovey action. That is nice. Unfortunately he eventually dies a really gruesome death. Aww. I guess in both cases the good die young. Red has a good art style in general. She is good at drawing cute guys.

@@c.d.dailey8013 Agreed. x3

I'd bang hades

They have one it’s called kamisama no asobi. There’s a game and an anime

Dibs on dating Aphrodite. The literal goddess of love? It's a shoe-in.

Considering what Persephone did to last one that tried to flirt with Hades, you're not wrong.

*sees very detailed threat* Are you okay?

Didn't that happen to the river sprite/nymph/whatever? I think that was the origin story of how the plant mint came to be.

+Katherine Barrow Yep. Minthe; she was a naiad of the Kokytos, one of the five rivers that run through the Underworld.

Okay I have a question: Why not date Apollo? I know everyone that he ends up falling for ends up dead like they said in the video but so far it doesn't seem to be his fault, they either commit suicide (for....some reason I guess?) Or in that one case that one God got jealous and killed him (which I can't accept Apollo didn't kick Zypher's ass for.) So really none of it is really his fault. Otherwise I might have suggested Hephaestus, sure he's not really a looker from most renditions but he's not a murderous psychopath either, problem is he did try to get rather frisky with Athena without her consent one time and I'm not one to suggest hooking up with rapists. Now for girls.....yeah not a lot of options they're either not interested in love or already married, If you somehow managed to find and restore Echo back to her old self she seems nice enough but those are some big ifs.

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