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Narrated by David Drew. Second episode in the Misconception series on the EU Model-with an emphasis on how science is practiced, interpreted, publicized, and absorbed by society.
The simple answer to the question "Where's the Science" is that it's hidden in plain sight. This answer also includes the three i's: Ideology, Interpretation, and, well, sheer Idiocy.
While there is no lack of evidence for an Electric Universe, it suffers from an embarrassment of riches. The primary problem is the interpretation of observations, and this is where idiocy kicks in.
Orthodox science has become ideological. It works with one tool in its box - gravity. Many space phenomena scream electricity, but plasmas and electromagnetism are difficult to model mathematically. Including them might deflate the elegant equations of theoretical physicists.
Author and independent researcher David Drew, describes science vis-à-vis scientism with a challenge to the gravity-only paradigm: What do they have to fear?
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@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 2 месяца назад
“… It is only the plasma itself which does not understand how beautiful the theories are…” - Alfvén. Love that quote, and can be said for a lot of science today.
@tomladdus9264
@tomladdus9264 2 месяца назад
I question how beautiful the standard theories are. Kinda ugly, and so dark.
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
Geeks used to have humour!!! ...lots of it!!!!
@kenco2600
@kenco2600 2 месяца назад
@@tomladdus9264 yup, like the three body problem, dark forest and the heat death. Products of the standard model of cosmology.
@billpitman1513
@billpitman1513 2 месяца назад
This intrigued me ! What about the plasma in our blood? Would this not constitute our bodies are plasma machines per se? Communicating with the plasma of the universe? And as the experiment unfolds, is aware of being observed..?
@leifbeyond
@leifbeyond 2 месяца назад
@@billpitman1513Yes, but when water is in a boundary condition (against a wall) it has a different chemical structure/geometry and is plasma than connects more readily to the longitudinal field. All the water in living systems is plasma.
@helpdeskjnp
@helpdeskjnp 2 месяца назад
My favorite RU-vid channel and the biggest positive change in my life is from this site and all involved. Thank you Thunderbolts Project people!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Perhaps a more positive change would have been to have actually taken science beyond primary school?
@clem24u
@clem24u 2 месяца назад
Science Vs. Scientism. Thanks for the new simple explanation for me to use.
@j.pershing2197
@j.pershing2197 2 месяца назад
I concur
@Solon_The_Lich
@Solon_The_Lich 2 месяца назад
Academia: "You Must Believe In The Science!" Thunderbolts: How about Understanding the science instead of Believing? Academia: REEEEEEEE!!!
@jameslay1489
@jameslay1489 2 месяца назад
@@Solon_The_Lich EU doesn't understand science. It's about believing instead of researching.
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 2 месяца назад
A catchphrase is not an EXPLANATION. It may serve as a starting point in giving an explanation. I hope you don't think you understand the topic just because you've memorized a slogan. It just seems to me that if you COULD explain it, the idea of "science versus scientism" wouldn't have struck you as a new idea.
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 2 месяца назад
@@jameslay1489 Ok dark energy
@BAROMETERONE
@BAROMETERONE 2 месяца назад
Well presented David. It does raise some questions doesn't it.
@ConsciousnessWatch
@ConsciousnessWatch 2 месяца назад
Great work! Thank you David. 👍
@edword3457
@edword3457 2 месяца назад
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to my right, here I am stuck in the middle with you"...🤦 Thanks for your lucidity and logic in this ridiculous "scientific" age we seem to be stuck in. It's no wonder that photo of NDgT and BCox makes me physically ill.
@AlanMcBride-yw6in
@AlanMcBride-yw6in 2 месяца назад
A first class song. Still good. Glory to Stealers Wheel
@stephenduplantier2151
@stephenduplantier2151 2 месяца назад
Maybe Cox’s demonic smile is not his fault but he reminds me of Pennywise. Tyson is entertaining but too full of himself. Both are bad cosmologists
@Severe_CDO_Sufferer
@Severe_CDO_Sufferer 2 месяца назад
@edword3457 we didn't get stuck here... this condition is imposed on us by those that control the funding, which is what steers the research where they have presupposed the correct answers to be, rather than allowing the observational and experimental results to be the guide in determining where the funding dollars should be allocated, which... if done properly, should lead to the correct answers, with no need for any presuppositions by financiers being required, or desired. but that's not the World we are currently living in. (can I get a big Honk Honk over here?) 🤡 🤡 Hey !!! Thank You Thank You
@nadahere
@nadahere 2 месяца назад
🤜⚡💥⚡🤛 HAHAHA! A favorite expression of mine where ever I go -- "Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, ...and doing quite well without you" 🤜⚡💥⚡🤛
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@stephenduplantier2151 Cox is not a cosmologist! He is a particle physicist. He worked at CERN. Strewth, at least get your facts straight before criticising people who are far brighter than you. And here is a real fact - EU has no physicists, let alone cosmologists.
@quinto190
@quinto190 2 месяца назад
"Physics is mathematical not because we know so much about the physical world, but because we know so little." - very clear-headed view of Bertrand Russell. Nikola Tesla saw it too.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Tesla was no physicist. And talked to pigeons. So who cares what he thought?
@skiracer
@skiracer 2 месяца назад
Dufus and David Drew, you've made another great EU video. Thank you!!
@velikovskysghost
@velikovskysghost 2 месяца назад
Looking forward to part 3 and thank you David Drew and thank you thunderbolts team for all the great work that helps us understand our place in this "electric universe" the late Wallace (Wal) Thornhill.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
There is nothing to understand. None of it is even possible. Unless you'd like to name one thing proposed by these mythologists that you think is actually scientifically valid? Rhetorical.
@velikovskysghost
@velikovskysghost 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 You don't read very much do you?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@velikovskysghost I've read plenty. And none of it supports the impossible fairy tales proposed by EU mythologists. So, I'll ask again - name one thing these amateurs propose that is scientifically valid. You can't. As you have pretty much admitted.
@jennifermoore2041
@jennifermoore2041 2 месяца назад
Truly grateful for science starting to make sense again...and pointing out that theories that cost millions, that only a few can produce should be more examined. NOT TAKING THEIR WORD AT FACE VALUE...
@summerbrooks9922
@summerbrooks9922 2 месяца назад
After living to age 80, I am amazed at the compliance of students to their lecturers. I took astronomy from Clyde Tombaugh, who discovered the planet Pluto. I questioned him every lecture and corrected him some. All the other students were male, engineering students and I was the only female. I could feel the hatred of their collective irritation. Meanwhile, Clyde thanked me. This is, unfortunately, a Fascist society and it, as a whole, suppresses novelty, creativity and different ideas and science itself.
@deborahsloan3224
@deborahsloan3224 2 месяца назад
Who knew speaking truth could be so entertaining. Thank you for the giggles. Much love to you and yours. ♥🥰
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_"Who knew speaking truth could be so entertaining."_ Where did that happen?
@Jack-It-UP
@Jack-It-UP 2 месяца назад
Great information, thanks.
@OceanTopInc
@OceanTopInc 2 месяца назад
Stunning........ I am compelled to share most videos on Thunderbolts, and this one especially so.
@Mynx5050
@Mynx5050 2 месяца назад
Love these! Thank you😊
@falls2488
@falls2488 2 месяца назад
electricity is everywhere, inside of us, all around us, everywhere we look...i dont get the reluctance to see by the mainstream.
@MrKapeji
@MrKapeji 2 месяца назад
Because Money.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
You mean by actual plasma physicists? Because they can see that what is proposed is scientifically impossible nonsense, on the same level as flat earth. Have you ever studied plasma physics? Qualified in it? I have. Want to tell me why the Debye length and quasi-neutrality rule out the nonsense proposed by EU? Any first year undergrad plasma physics student could do that. Why can't you see it? Because you don't understand plasma physics. Same as the rest of the amateur mythologists in this cult. Try learning it.
@skipintroux4444
@skipintroux4444 29 дней назад
Hubris.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 28 дней назад
@@skipintroux4444 Because you have no science?
@robertdavis100
@robertdavis100 2 месяца назад
sheldrake was quoting terrence mckenna
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Correct, and he often cites him. I should have mentioned that.
@summerbrooks9922
@summerbrooks9922 2 месяца назад
Thanks a million for the correction.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Sheldrake is a total nutter.
@PakmanEvolved
@PakmanEvolved 2 месяца назад
Thank you. Amazing lecture. ❤🙏🏻
@tomladdus9264
@tomladdus9264 2 месяца назад
All they see are Black Holes, dark energy, and dark matter maybe they are shooting in the dark?
@john-ic5pz
@john-ic5pz 2 месяца назад
everything's dark when one's head is deeply buried in one's @ss, no? 😋🫤
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 2 месяца назад
They are frantically swimming in a dark matter ocean, trying to get away from the big bad scary black hole. 😁
@velikovskysghost
@velikovskysghost 2 месяца назад
@tomladdus9264 What do mainstream scientists do when they hear a big bang?, They hide inside a black hole!
@AlanMcBride-yw6in
@AlanMcBride-yw6in 2 месяца назад
​@@john-ic5pzThey are the Dark Side. From Ignorance CIty.
@Rock_Girl_Daze
@Rock_Girl_Daze 2 месяца назад
Maybe they are the ‘dark’.
@tedburke8187
@tedburke8187 2 месяца назад
The implications of the Electric Universe are that there is free energy streaming everywhere. thats why the knowledge is being suppressed, because then they wouldn't be able to charge you!, no pun intended
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
That's one possibility, although there is also Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
@summerbrooks9922
@summerbrooks9922 2 месяца назад
And yet, when I wrote a patent on ownership of the Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy, a non-friend made the outrageous comment that no person could own anything unclaimed in nature. Wow! Like my ancestors claiming this country as theirs was wrong, too!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_"The implications of the Electric Universe are that there is free energy streaming everywhere."_ Really? And what is this energy? How will it be harnessed? Do you know what quasi-neutrality means? Do you know what the Debye length refers to in plasmas? The magnetic Reynolds number? Go and learn the physics and then get back to me.
@ImagineMySurprise510
@ImagineMySurprise510 2 месяца назад
I can see when much loved shows like Star Trek and Stargate will trigger a cringe reaction whenever they have stories that rely on black holes.
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
EVERY "SCI FI" movie is postulate the same bullshit... That's their main investment!!!!
@veganconservative1109
@veganconservative1109 2 месяца назад
The EU films did destroy a few Doctor Who stories for me when I was still watching that show. 🙁 "Big Bang" me> Aw, crud.
@safffff1000
@safffff1000 2 месяца назад
Maybe some sort of plasma sun shielding ind and using the sun as a portal thru birkeland currents will do the trick
@skipintroux4444
@skipintroux4444 29 дней назад
I look forward to a sci fi show that is based on electric universe science. All of today’s sci-fi will have this quaint out of date epicycle flavour to them should people of the future see them.
@juliesteimle3867
@juliesteimle3867 2 месяца назад
I've wondered what they fear in accepting a plasma universe... and it occurred to me that it would mean accepting the sun has a more active role in the climate of the earth. And that is something the powers that be do not want to hear.
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
Loosing the revenue from your bills???
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
@@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ The Sun is the primary climate driver, no doubt about it. AGW is highly speculative but well-funded.
@jaydwy8069
@jaydwy8069 2 месяца назад
They wouldnt be able to make up science to create lies that negate god 😂
@michaelstiller2282
@michaelstiller2282 2 месяца назад
The key holders lobbied the gate keepers for 6 billion dollars for the LHC. Its serious money, for highly skilled jobs where in most cases knowing how to build it was not understood. Funneling guaranteed jobs to University students. The ecosystem has to come back around full circle. Building these sorts of things isn't about manpower. It's a guaranteed job for a very long time. Basically you built it and then you work there the rest of your life. Because you're the only one who knows how to work it. Job security. So if you work at the LHC it's probably not in your best interest like to trash it like Sabine Hossenfelder, who basically quit to preach her opinion.
@Geopoliticstoday2
@Geopoliticstoday2 2 месяца назад
Debunked
@videobob
@videobob 2 месяца назад
Keep it coming
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 19 дней назад
Postulating the existence of Dark Matter & Dark Energy but ignoring Electromagnetism reminds me of the Sydney Harris "... then a miracle occurs." cartoon.
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 12 дней назад
🤣
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 11 дней назад
EM explains precisely nothing about the observations and evidence that support dark matter and dark energy. And nobody thinks it can. Got a paper on that? How is EM woo explaining lensing observations of colliding galaxy clusters? Or the observation of the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect on the CMB photons? Or supernovae 1a time dilation measurements? Et cetera. Sorry, but science-free word salad doesn't cut it in science.
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 9 дней назад
@@davejones7632 Righto. BTW, why did you change your name from Ian Whittaker to Dave Jones?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 9 дней назад
@@playfulplanets1697 I didn't. I have a number of accounts in various names. One tends to get banned from pseudoscience sites like this (or Ben Davidson's nonsense, or 'Sky Scholar's unscientific woo, etc), so it pays to have a few! Google limits the number of gmail accounts you can have, if you use one phone number to sign up. So, I just use different names and different phones. I have a few old ones still knocking around.
@Hampus.K
@Hampus.K 2 месяца назад
Great Work!
@Truthagainsttheworld8430
@Truthagainsttheworld8430 2 месяца назад
Even as a student I knew enough of history to know that today's firm beliefs are tomorrow's superstitions. Anyone proclaiming we are at the end of learning should be avoided at all costs.
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 2 месяца назад
Most masked today are little different from the witch dunkers of middle ages before
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 2 месяца назад
'Their' witch on broomstick Medusa (Peter Mungo Jupp) . . their Madonna in same fetid breath
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_" Anyone proclaiming we are at the end of learning should be avoided at all costs."_ And precisely nobody is saying that. You made it up.
@destroytheboxes
@destroytheboxes 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 meh. There are many who claim science is ever changing but speak as though concrete evidence exists for everything they speak of.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@destroytheboxes _"There are many who claim science is ever changing but speak as though concrete evidence exists for everything they speak of."_ Really? Where did that happen? Scientific theories are never 100% proven. Some theories are so well affirmed that they are as good as being proven, however. Evolution is one. Relativity another. The Big Bang also. What science will not entertain is impossible, evidence-free pseudoscience that only exists on youtube. And that is all you people have.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 месяца назад
There is nothing more unscientific than to say "The science is settled." Proves how arrogance, ignorance & dogmatism rules the minds of many scientists, not the scientific spirit and curiosity.
@JonnyParker-
@JonnyParker- 2 месяца назад
Exactlty man , i trust science not "the science" , big difference . We have witnessed that more than ever the past 4 yrs with the whole common cold being made out to be some deadly thing .
@LudwigVaanArthans
@LudwigVaanArthans 2 месяца назад
When PhD diplomas can literally be purchased with money, the "scientists" are nothing more than the corrupt children of corrupt politicians that feel the need to be validated by whatever hot topic exists in the culture at that point
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_"There is nothing more unscientific than to say "The science is settled.""_ And who is saying that? Want to provide examples? Want to provide alternative explanations for things that are as good as settled? Such as how stars form and how they are powered? About the reality of quasi-neutrality and the Debye length in plasmas? Feel free. Word salad doesn't cut it in science, you'll find. And that is all you people have.
@alessandrosuppini943
@alessandrosuppini943 2 месяца назад
Amazing the similarities between large and ultra small scale! Keep using your elegant “pry bar” and the science community will come open at some point 😉
@john-ic5pz
@john-ic5pz 2 месяца назад
giving big bang theorists more credit (that it's based on anything credible, even if just mathematics) than due was generous.
@mobrule8219
@mobrule8219 2 месяца назад
Actually, the Big Bang is religious, not mathematical. Georges Lemaître, (1894-1966), Belgian amateur cosmologist, Catholic priest, and father of the Big Bang theory in 1931. It's a miracle.... Oy Veh!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@mobrule8219 It is based on evidence. Evidence that convinced pretty much everyone who followed steady-state models to jump ship, even before COBE imaged the CMB. Were all those brilliant scientists (most of them atheists, I daresay) convinced by nothing more than fairy tales? Nope, that is what your cult is built upon. No science, just fairy tales. All stemming from one man's attempts to explain biblical fairy tales and other mythology. Irony, much?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@mobrule8219 _"Belgian amateur cosmologist"_ You mean qualified physicist? How many of them does your cult have?
@mobrule8219
@mobrule8219 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 His PROFESSION was priest, his HOBBY was astronomy. Why is such a SIMPLE concept so foreign to your LITTLE brain? Something from nothing is a miracle, not physics. SMH
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@mobrule8219 Ye Gods! You people are even more stupid than I gave you credit for! He got his physics PhD from MIT.
@Snailmailtrucker
@Snailmailtrucker 2 месяца назад
*Fan-Freakin-Tastic !* *FJB !*
@veganconservative1109
@veganconservative1109 2 месяца назад
I love how RU-vid is now offering some English comments: Translate to English. 😅
@derrickricks9047
@derrickricks9047 2 месяца назад
Love the Sheldrake quote! Really enjoying the series, Thanks'...
@summerbrooks9922
@summerbrooks9922 2 месяца назад
That's McKenna's quote.
@t00by00zer
@t00by00zer 2 месяца назад
"Peer reviewed" in modern physics is an absolutely useless title.
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 2 месяца назад
It means nothing or even worse, if they are all of the same wrong mind.
@john-ic5pz
@john-ic5pz 2 месяца назад
@iteerrex8166 that's precisely what it means....dogma (our collective egos) upheld, publish it!
@infinidominion
@infinidominion 2 месяца назад
Close quote
@Rock_Girl_Daze
@Rock_Girl_Daze 2 месяца назад
‘Peer Review’ has been a buzz word, and recently determined is without proper review. It has become a nothing burger.
@j.pershing2197
@j.pershing2197 2 месяца назад
Like toothepaste
@critical-thought
@critical-thought 2 месяца назад
Now that mainstream science knows everything (other than some stray i and t details, one wonders why they are still spending billions on research.
@nadahere
@nadahere 2 месяца назад
🤜⚡💥⚡🤛 The videos are getting more and more electrifying. 🤜⚡💥⚡🤛
@MrD44z
@MrD44z 2 месяца назад
All Good
@barrydysert2974
@barrydysert2974 2 месяца назад
Excellent Excellent Excellent !!!
@stevesherman1743
@stevesherman1743 2 месяца назад
“I’m not listening … I’m not listening.” - - Mainstream physics
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
There is nothing to listen to. Cults on youtube, espousing impossible nonsense, are not going to be heard by anyone that matters.
@akaROOSTA
@akaROOSTA 2 месяца назад
So I’ve subscribed to this channel about 5 or 6 times and just today I pressed the ‘subscribe’ button and it says ‘subscription error’ 7 times until I was actually able to subscribe... Aagain🙄
@michaelholt7994
@michaelholt7994 2 месяца назад
I remember buying John wheelers book about black holes in the sixties,it troubled me for years,how do you get such mass into one spot,to cut a long story short,it was only when I discovered velikovsky and wal thornhill was the puzzle answered for me and continues to do so.as you infer ,its difficult to watch or listen to,quite frankly people way out of their depth.nice one drew ,spot on,,cant wait for the next one.
@davidrains3918
@davidrains3918 Месяц назад
EVERYTHING is “Electo”, whether it’s magnetic or chemical!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@ 1:58; Alfven never thought the Sun was electrical. And he knew how the aurorae occurred. Again, it did not involve any impossible currents coming from Sun to Earth. In fact, he explained why that would be impossible. Alfven's model of the aurorae is pretty much the modern mainstream model. He got a few details wrong, but hey, it was 1939! So, if you are agreeing with Alfven, you are agreeing with the modern mainstream model. Well done.
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 12 дней назад
Alfven developed Birkeland's work, which ran contrary to orthodox thinking. Birkeland was attacked by Sydney Chapman (another math guy), but Birkeland won the day, and electric currents in space are named after him. Learn some basic science history.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 12 дней назад
@@playfulplanets1697 _"Alfven developed Birkeland's work"_ And corrected it. He knew that the particles leaving the Sun could not have all been of one sign. He knew, and said, that the stream leaving the Sun had to have zero net current. He stated that the currents we see in the magnetosphere were induced only once the solar wind plasma reached the magnetosphere. These are things that Don Scott fails to understand, and directly contradicts. _"and electric currents in space are named after him."_ You mean 'electric currents in the magnetosphere'. That is the only place Birkeland currents exist. _"Learn some basic science history."_ Learn plasma physics.
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 11 дней назад
@@davejones7632 Radio astronomy reveals the abundance of Birkeland currents throughout the cosmos, well beyond our magnetosphere.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 11 дней назад
@@playfulplanets1697 No it doesn't. Making things up does not count as science. Birkeland currents are an induced phenomena that only exist in planetary magnetospheres.
@tedburke8187
@tedburke8187 Месяц назад
🎉 Horgan will go down in history as one of the biggest fools ever!
@konjuer
@konjuer 2 месяца назад
Never build science based off of theory. Should be simple stuff, that scientists don’t seem to understand. But then scientists should be scientists not personal economist.
@StevenWilkins-y9t
@StevenWilkins-y9t 7 дней назад
Love it. Try to speak to an Electrical Engineer about any of this and all they can do is trot out the atrocious theories they have been taught as though the word of God itself. Pity because i need a pragmatic but open minded assistant to help recreate some interesting energetic phenomena.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock 2 месяца назад
I still think the question begged is whether honest mistakes and pathological thinking explain how far cosmology and 'theoretical physics' have wandered from 'classical' or empirical physics, or if something else has been at work - _deliberate_ falsification and suppression by powerful interests (powerful meaning monied) for ulterior purposes. Put more simply, whether someone (or something) has been lying to us on a literally cosmic scale.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
I think ideological thinking (tunnel vision) is the key, but who knows for sure?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Typical crackpot word salad.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 2 месяца назад
In any discussion of Unified Theories, Gravity, Electromagnetism, and the Strong & Weak Nuclear Forces are taken as the four fundamental forces of nature. The first two are part of our everyday, macroscopic experiences. It's curious that Electromagnetism has been largely excluded from Cosmology. It might be a good time to crack open "Jackson" again!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_"It's curious that Electromagnetism has been largely excluded from Cosmology. "_ Only if you don't understand physics. At those scales, only gravity is of any significance. Even on most astrophysical scales. Know what quasi-neutrality and the Debye length refer to? Ever studied plasma physics? If you had you would know the answer.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 Revisiting the concepts in "Cosmical Electrodynamics" by Alfvén & Fälthammar, and "Physics of the Plasma Universe" by Peratt deserves attention, especially in light of contemporary observations.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@douglasstrother6584 Part 1: Alfven and Falthammar's book is very dated, but mostly just standard plasma physics. And a fair bit of it is just plain wrong. Alfven's fixation with denying the reality of magnetic reconnection, for instance. Falthammar later accepted MR fully. Also, Alfven's later obsession with giant exploding double layers is also long since dead. His work on solar system formation and cosmology is also in the dustbin of failed models. He was starting to get outside his area of expertise. However, neither he nor C-G F supported anything as unscientific as the woo proposed by EU. And Peratt said as much in the preface to the second edition of the book you mentioned. Which, again, was mostly just standard stuff. The stuff that wasn't standard was his very silly galaxy formation model. Even he hasn't bothered with that in over 25 years. Double-lobed radio galaxies are not what he thought them to be at the time. We now know that they are mostly giant ellipticals with AGNs, which are throwing out jets. We know that the megaparsec-scale currents he proposed (in violation of basic plasma physics) do not exist. At least he made a prediction of how they would be seen if they were there - from the then upcoming COBE mission. COBE didn't see them. Nor has any other instrument that would see them if they were impossibly there. Nobody ever took his 'model' seriously. So, I fail to see what today's plasma physicists would need to take away from those books, given that they are in possession of far more knowledge now than those authors ever were. And there are no contemporary observations that support anything that the authors proposed re cosmological models.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@douglasstrother6584 Part 2: I find a lot of EUists invoke Alfven, but don't actually seem to understand that what he wrote contradicts some of the main tenets of EU non-science! On another recent video, we have a guy called Matt Finn arguing with me that Don Scott's solar model makes sense. It doesn't. It is impossible. As any plasma physicist would tell you. If you had one to ask. Scott thinks the solar wind is a current! Lol. Alfven explained in 1939 why that cannot possibly be the case. And in ~ 60 years of measuring the solar wind, we find that Alfven was right, and Scott's physics violating claims are wrong. As well as being impossible. Alfven, Falthammar and Peratt all knew/ know that the Sun was powered by fusion in the core. Alfven even wrote a bit about comets, all of which is at odds with EU's impossible claims re those bodies. Even in this video the narrator is conflating Alfven's galaxy 'model' with the fact that galaxies possess large-scale but puny magnetic fields. Alfven proposed a model whereby a galaxy could have oppositely directed magnetic fields in each hemisphere. That would lead to a current sheet between them, just as happens in the heliosphere. And in the magnetosphere. And in comet tails. Etc. However, recent observations of the magnetic fields of galaxies rule this out. Alfven could not explain where the magnetic fields originated from. He made an attempt, proposing that an initial field caused by a current somewhere, could be carried throughout the galaxy by being frozen-in to the plasma, and amplified by MHD processes. Which isn't a million miles away from current thinking. The only difference, in essence, is that the seed fields that were created are now believed to have occurred a very long time ago. In summary, EU like to mention Alfven, but nothing he wrote supports anything they propose.
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 2 месяца назад
Dark Matter/Energy may end up being the Epicycles of modern cosmology.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Almost certainly.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Want to deal with the evidence for them? Your unqualified narrator obviously cannot.
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 There was evidence for epicycles. That doesn’t mean that they were the answer.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 No there wasn't. So, either deal with the evidence, or admit that you either, a) do not even know what it is, or b) are incapable of addressing it. Do I need to spell out what the evidence is?
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763
@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 You have zero knowledge it seems for the history of science and the mechanism behind the resistance to paradigm shifts. I refer you to Thomas Kuhn’s “The structure of scientific revolutions”.
@mcmuffin9275
@mcmuffin9275 2 месяца назад
I need this to become more mainstream. I’m not the smartest person, but, it’s so clear when there is evidence, and when there isn’t. Show me a black hole in a lab. Show me a plasmoid in a lab. I bet I’ll only be shown one. Show me dark matter, show me gravity making something I see in space. Prove it.
@Rahatlakhoom
@Rahatlakhoom 2 месяца назад
Admitting and utilizing an electric plasma universe liberates all departments of human existence. It also gives everyone a shot at a judicious self-mastery, and mandatory service as a galactic entity.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_"utilizing an electric plasma universe"_ No such thing.
@Rahatlakhoom
@Rahatlakhoom 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 No training I see.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@Rahatlakhoom Just a MSc in plasma physics. You? Want to describe this electric woo? How does it work? Where is it written up? What does it say? Or would I be right in thinking that it is scientifically impossible nonsense, dreamed up by unqualified Velikovskians, that exists nowhere in the scientific literature? Just like flat earth?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@Rahatlakhoom More than you have. Want to discuss plasma physics? After all, that is what I qualified in. Thought not. Stick to the day job.
@Rahatlakhoom
@Rahatlakhoom 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 Oh sure bub. Feed me some more drivel. Qualified by what, by who? Stuck here on this same dirt ball, and I take it, you've transcended your day job.
@epockismet76
@epockismet76 2 месяца назад
What do they have to fear? Having to learn it, while maintaining their alpha status within sexual society. Being able to maintian their status in "society" while having to be students, after being the alpha bully, supporting that player dynamic between the alpha male/female vs. the "consumer"... i could probably write books about it, but it's all things people turn a blind eye to, as "we" are all raised to take advantage of it when we can due to our advanced logic based culture 🤪☕️🤡🌐
@asiseeit...6915
@asiseeit...6915 2 месяца назад
Please explain one thing. Can you have an electric universe without electrons?
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Not really. But what are electrons? Are they fundamental particles, or made up of smaller particles, or perhaps a condensation of the aether, or some such thing?
@dleetr
@dleetr 2 месяца назад
Peer reviewed or Cult Approved. The latter would be better aligned with what's going on. In the same way you see all manner of zany, reality divorced nonsense getting published, just because it supports the global warming narrative, astrophysics has exactly the same psycho-social dynamic going on. It's just harder for the lay person to spot and debate because of the increasingly arcane nature of the lore being contributed to.
@nobigbang825
@nobigbang825 2 месяца назад
"What they have to fear?" Good question, I would guess something to do with money, organized religious followers and potential cheaper and cleaner energy; all existential crisis for them. Great video.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Lol. And where is this cheaper and cleaner energy coming from? Learn physics, there's a good boy.
@scott3357
@scott3357 2 месяца назад
What do they have to fear, indeed! Only their careers, their funding….and Progress! Perhaps they believe that since they can’t understand the electric/plasma universe then no one else will, either…..it’s all very simple and an understanding starts with two basic principles - (1) a moving electric field creates a magnetic field and (2) a moving magnetic field creates an electric field. Basic 1st year Physics class.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
You mean plasma physicists don't understand plasma? How many plasma physicists has your cult got? Zero. How many people with even a vague understanding of the subject? Zero. EU is ignored because it isn't science, has no scientists, and only exists on youtube. Just like flat earth.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
_" (2) a moving magnetic field..."_ Would you like to talk about moving magnetic fields? And how the existence of such in the solar wind precludes Don Scott's electrons from drifting in to the heliosphere to power the Sun (lol!)? Unless you think charged particles can just drift past a magnetic field headed in the opposite direction at 100s of km/s? Scott seems to think they can. Either that, or he doesn't even know of the existence of the interplanetary magnetic field, carried outward by the solar wind.
@davidrains3918
@davidrains3918 Месяц назад
If Covid taught me anything, it’s that you shouldn’t trust the science unless you can trust the scientists!
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 12 дней назад
Or, to put it another way, how can we trust the science if the 'science' follows the money?
@davidrains3918
@davidrains3918 11 дней назад
@@playfulplanets1697 agreed!
@keithnorris6348
@keithnorris6348 2 месяца назад
Thanks for another great show, keep plugin` away.
@noturaveragejoker7367
@noturaveragejoker7367 2 месяца назад
Thank you boys very much 😮
@RickDelmonico
@RickDelmonico 2 месяца назад
Give us one free miracle. Terrance McKenna
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Yes, Sheldrake often quotes his old friend, McKenna. I should have mentioned that.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 19 дней назад
Postulating the existence of Dark Matter & Dark Energy but ignoring Electromagnetism reminds me of the Sydney Harris "... then a miracle occurs." cartoon.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 19 дней назад
@@douglasstrother6584 Very much so. LOL
@SantinoDeluxe
@SantinoDeluxe 2 месяца назад
in my experience poking around, those who try and "debunk" the plasma usually end up inadvertently contradicting Einstein
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
You can't contradict bullshit!!!! all you can do is substantiate it!!! Even the maths equations are wrong!!!! ...but hey!!! None can understand Einstein!!! ...not even Einstein himself!!!!!
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Yes, this is very true.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Really? Where did that happen? EU is trivial to debunk. And I am qualified in plasma physics. No need to go anywhere near Einstein. Just the laws of physics, and basic EM and plasma physics.
@SantinoDeluxe
@SantinoDeluxe 2 месяца назад
​@@davejones7632 dont stand up for other peoples ignorance, please, enlighten me, where does plasma cosmology go wrong?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@SantinoDeluxe Plasma cosmology does not even exist. The original version by Alfven had a matter-antimatter universe. That is trivially ruled out, which is why nobody has ever bothered with it. The rest is just the inventions of amateur mythologists who do not even understand plasma physics. Can you name a peer-reviewed paper where what you believe to be plasma cosmology is set out? No, you can't. It simply doesn't exist. What do you want plasma/ EM to be responsible for that explains what is observed? Let's take the amateur Lerner - he wants EM woo to be responsible for galaxy rotation curves! Lol. Failing to realise that stars are on those same flat rotation curves, and stars are charge neutral. Real scientists posited magnetic fields to explain rotation curves decades ago. They fail for the same reason I mentioned above. Once it was obvious that stars were on the same curves, those models died a death. I could show you the maths that tells us what the magnetic field strength would need to be, even if we allowed a small charge on the Sun. Believe me, we might notice that! Plasma cosmology is not even a thing. It therefore explains nothing.
@jonbigman9723
@jonbigman9723 2 месяца назад
Talking about the first picture of a black hole. When I looked into the radio telescope array and the "New" way they were using the data a found a most disturbing data point. It's biased on their belief of what they are seeing. It's part of the interpretation of the data they collected from the array of radio telescopes. Part of the data is rigid in their belief of what they are looking at, in other words they took their beliefs of what they think they should see and added that as hard data.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Lol. And what else would it be?
@jonbigman9723
@jonbigman9723 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 Exactly what they want to see. Not what is there. In fact this is a radio scope of what is there. It's not a picture of a body or mass. It's an energetic picture of the area. Not necessarily matter and certainly not a Blackhole.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@jonbigman9723 _"Exactly what they want to see. Not what is there"_ Is the typical response of someone with no idea about the subject. And if black holes are not a massive body, how do you explain the orbits of stars around them? Never heard of Kepler's third law? Or did you skip high school physics?
@jonbigman9723
@jonbigman9723 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 I didn't say anything of the likes that "Blackholes" do not exist. What I did say is that a radio telescope does not see Matter. It sees matters energetic radiant output. The telescopes used for the project are radio telescopes and not regular telescopes. Also the technique to utilize all of the radio telescopes in the project is alpha at best. If you would care to watch the video i posted you will see that they take fuzzy images and use an algorithm to output a photo that, they SAID in their own words, Looked like what they expected to find. Tell me if one has never seen a black hole ever then how could you expect to see nothing but theories and conjecture. Oh there is something there alright but it is not some black hole you expect to see. Think about a sea of plasma and plasmoids and you might just understand what to expect out there. But until we actually see it I would refrain from saying what they showed was anything but what they wanted to see.
@Severe_CDO_Sufferer
@Severe_CDO_Sufferer 2 месяца назад
at 3:40 What are those two bowl or dome shaped things to the north and south, just before the fork, along the polar axis? (does anyone reading this comment have any idea what those are supposed to represent?)
@zachariahcasterline4564
@zachariahcasterline4564 2 месяца назад
Bangarang
@brokenmess9921
@brokenmess9921 2 месяца назад
The current standard black hole theory: an explosion of such force as to turn space inside out😂 Wrong!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Physics isn't your strong point, is it? Rhetorical.
@michaelholt7994
@michaelholt7994 2 месяца назад
I'm yet to see any definitive answers to how much power a plasmoid can have,is it limited and why? ,what's the limit ?,is there no limit?.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
And what have plasmoids got to do with anything? They are ephemeral phenomena. Often seen in the aftermath of magnetic reconnection. And what do you mean by 'power'? They are magnetic 'islands' containing plasma of both signs, with no net charge.
@fixitfast110
@fixitfast110 2 месяца назад
holy deception Batman, they got no math. 🤣
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
They got the math, but the hypotheticals keep multiplying.
@tonymaurice5889
@tonymaurice5889 2 месяца назад
Whens the next conference?!?!
@marcomclaurin6713
@marcomclaurin6713 23 дня назад
I'd like to share my observations that points to electrical processies in my video 'Sound reason ' I give references to experiments that support my conclusion I hope you'll consider watching and have patience with my poor production Thank you for your time and your work
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 11 дней назад
Forget videos, give us the name of a peer-reviewed paper.
@marcomclaurin6713
@marcomclaurin6713 11 дней назад
@@davejones7632I must have hit a nerve
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 11 дней назад
@@marcomclaurin6713 No dear, I was just pointing out the way that real scientists get their work assessed. Otherwise it is just more flat earth level woo on youtube. No harm in making videos. Space agencies and science communicators do it all the time. However, those presentations are based on peer-reviewed science, and you will usually find the links to the papers in the video description. So, explain to this plasma physicist (retired) what these 'electrical processes' are, and where they are described in the peer-reviewed literature.
@marcomclaurin6713
@marcomclaurin6713 11 дней назад
@@davejones7632 oh
@marcomclaurin6713
@marcomclaurin6713 11 дней назад
@@davejones7632 so, you need daddy's permission
@DumpsterDivingDragon
@DumpsterDivingDragon 2 месяца назад
Just stay cool in ready to help as in the Way of The Faithful & True 'til when the moment arrives, ...Then, you'll be awakened along with the rest of us 15+/- billion ~ together on that 1 day about 800+ years from today. Maybe the 1 in The Arrival...? Patience, dear man! Patience. You'll know all & Then, We All Shall. Carry on, Good Spirited Soul, you. Pardon my mix up... Truly
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Sorry, you've lost me there.
@DumpsterDivingDragon
@DumpsterDivingDragon 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 Ooops, Sorry. That was for the Other D D fella. Nevermind, chap .... See ya along with the rest of us , you're one of the already prequalified... TY for your' duty & Love in His Service. Peace-out Now!
@bloodyorphan
@bloodyorphan 2 месяца назад
Big Bang inflation is over distance not time.
@Socrates-ti2dh
@Socrates-ti2dh 2 месяца назад
😇😎😇
@franklinmiller5430
@franklinmiller5430 2 месяца назад
Electricity can create a magnetic field and a magnetic field can create electricity. They are the same animal. One cannot exist without the other. 🙊🙉🙈🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@jbx.7995
@jbx.7995 2 месяца назад
Today sky's, are gray looking, yes I believe that the universe is a big current of electricity. When the planet get close, they don't slam into each other, electricity is in place, they push each other away, look at Mars that I believe was hit by a binary battery/ intruder planet..I'm no scholar, I just believe that, great stuff honestly
@dantheman9135
@dantheman9135 2 месяца назад
Crush on...
@adampetrowsky1771
@adampetrowsky1771 2 месяца назад
👍
@mikemcgrath5188
@mikemcgrath5188 2 месяца назад
YOSH!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 Месяц назад
So, where is the science? Still waiting.
@AdrianMulligan
@AdrianMulligan 2 месяца назад
Peer review is just a new dogma. Agree with me, or you'll never get funding. It's a religion, abide with me, or you go to hell!😂
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
So say all the cracpots.
@AdrianMulligan
@AdrianMulligan 2 месяца назад
@@davejones7632 You mean Crackpots
@kevinhank17
@kevinhank17 2 месяца назад
Do you understand what peer review actually is? I take it you don't, or you wouldn't have made your comment. Fill the void of ignorance in your brain.
@hoosierflatty6435
@hoosierflatty6435 2 месяца назад
Where's the science in heliocentrism? haha
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
is that was a flat postulation?
@hoosierflatty6435
@hoosierflatty6435 2 месяца назад
@@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ Learn English if you're going to ask a serious question.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Alfven's galactic model has never been confirmed. In fact all observations rule it out. That the galaxy has a tiny magnetic field is true enough, but he never claimed that it was due to extant currents within the galactic plasma. Don't you guys actually read what you claim?
@SethEvans-r2j
@SethEvans-r2j 2 месяца назад
"Vibes of cosmos" climate change model!!!
@Eigil_Skovgaard
@Eigil_Skovgaard 2 месяца назад
They will copy and rename like hell as they are doing with everything belonging to others.
@corkygoss7403
@corkygoss7403 2 месяца назад
Hallo...Had a look at MFMP yet? Didn't think so.
@playfulplanets1697
@playfulplanets1697 2 месяца назад
MFMP?
@corkygoss7403
@corkygoss7403 2 месяца назад
@@playfulplanets1697 Martin Fleischman Memorial Project hosted by Bob Greenyer on YT. Bob does the science. The T.P. should know the progress he has made by now but....crickets....Cheers.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@corkygoss7403 Greenyer is as clueless about physics as these Velikovskians.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
@@corkygoss7403 He has made no progress. He is a cold fusion crackpot.
@eltonrobb6208
@eltonrobb6208 2 месяца назад
no mention of an ether, huh? That aside, it's a good presentation. Thanks David!
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
I touch on the aether in my Why Files response.
@quantumcomata105
@quantumcomata105 2 месяца назад
📺🐛🍎
@andrewbartrum3072
@andrewbartrum3072 2 месяца назад
You refer to ‘orthodox’ science a lot. By that do you mean the current paradigm of what is the accepted model? I hope so. Because it is also orthodox science that will one day I believe allow the wrongs of the gatekeepers to be robustly overturned. Science is just science. Its people with vested interests that are the problem
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ
@ΛάζαροςΚοσμίδης-σ2ζ 2 месяца назад
only when they managed to twist every word of the electric universe theory!!! see climate change!!!!
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Yes, see part 1.
@johncage3969
@johncage3969 2 месяца назад
Thunderbolts bros: can someone help me find a YT video? It was like the 'Astrum' channel (marvelling about the mysteries of our solar system, and the strange data sent back by probes such as Cassini) but it delved closer to alternative theories, like ThunderboltsProject. It was a full length documentary full of atmospheric music and great visuals. I would be so grateful if anyone knew the video I'm thinking off. I guess it's buried in the algorithm now.
@billpitman1513
@billpitman1513 2 месяца назад
This gave me an idea for a Solar system telescope. Use the frequencies of The Sun, Jupiter and Saturn to create a huge radio telescope and direct the "view" far beyond any distance ever seen. Maybe one day we can triangulate a Galactic Electron Telescope... What if all the ringed planets are antennas and have been aiming to their respective "home worlds" to monitor Earth's health. Curious of this for the last decade. What if we could find the destination signals from these ringed gas giants. Where are their rings focussed to ? The signal connection would have a focal point and the ringed giants are connected to every body in our Solar System. Our Solar System is broadcasting and receiving signals faster than light for sure... Frequency, Vibration, And Energy, oh and dont forget the 7 Hermetic Principles hahahahahahah i love my plasma powered brain P.S. I believe Saturn is the strongest Antenna with the rings. Somehow if we could follow the path of the North Pole Hexagon and "see" where its focal point is and we might be suprised where it leads... Maybe the South Pole "eye" is the real clue as to where Saturn Tranceives it's plasma focus... Where does our Sun's "rings" point? With all the Birkeland connections, what kind of "signals" would be broadcast? And would the signal be carried on the Hydrogen frequency? Like a satellite phone call? Wheres the Birkeland current feeding the Sun? Something is powering the Sun like a plasma welding torch... metallurgy, with Helium as the inert gas cleaning the weldment surface... My expansion of Teslas D.C. Universe being converted by the Earth Diode into A.C. goes beyond what I've texted. I believe the Universe is like a giant human brain and we are the microbes hahahahah As above, so below
@mkaz3997
@mkaz3997 2 месяца назад
Affirmation/confirmation bias rules the mainstream cosmology community.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
100%
@jameslay1489
@jameslay1489 2 месяца назад
Really? I've heard cosmologists say "I don't know." more often than anyone in EU.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
@@jameslay1489 Well, they often pay lip service to the importance of doubt. Brian Cox, for example, is certain of the 'truth' of Big Bang because "we can see it", he says, referring to the CMB, although there are better interpretations of the background temperature of space. Furthermore, the truth behind the history of predictions is often erased from platforms like Wikipedia. That's revisionism.
@mkaz3997
@mkaz3997 2 месяца назад
@@jameslay1489 Have you? That's nice.
@AAABTonto
@AAABTonto 2 месяца назад
"Peer review" ... is admission to the "think alike country club" .... what a hopeless and sad state of affairs ...
@veganconservative1109
@veganconservative1109 2 месяца назад
I hate color-within-the-lines thinking. Remember taking an early Mensa test at school and getting one sequence of pictures 'wrong'. I blinked at her then explained my thought process on the puzzle. The teacher looked at me, looked at my answer, then agreed that my answer was viable just as much as the 'correct' answer. Thus was I eligible for Mensa. (I decided I didn't want to go there. Sounded like a place designed to breed egotists.)
@jameslay1489
@jameslay1489 2 месяца назад
More like self correcting. The fact is EU supporters don't like their work questioned, they just want it accepted.
@AAABTonto
@AAABTonto 2 месяца назад
@@jameslay1489 Wrong .... of course they want it questioned, that is the whole point of this--it IS NOT being questioned and explored b'cuz some old has-beens don't want their precious fairy tales questioned. Rather, they want their incomplete diagnosis ensconced as scripture .... but don't worry, there are plenty of closed minds out there like yours who fall on the undying sword of Gravity---that has yet to even be defined .... have a nice day ...
@jameslay1489
@jameslay1489 2 месяца назад
@AAABTonto no, they want it just accepted which is why they detract from the peer review process. The physics and cosmological community rejects EU because of the peer review process. EU has failed the peer review process so now it's supporters don't like it.
@AAABTonto
@AAABTonto 2 месяца назад
@@jameslay1489 .........................b'cuz YOU say so .... I'm not buyin' your cheap shill ... waste you time elsewhere
@spaceon_fr
@spaceon_fr 2 месяца назад
Bruh this is such a bullshit
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 2 месяца назад
Indeed!
@DonswatchingtheTube
@DonswatchingtheTube 2 месяца назад
Mathmagician.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 2 месяца назад
You cant belive your lying eyes about anything today 😅
@10thmountainsoldier90
@10thmountainsoldier90 2 месяца назад
Psalms 19:1
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
"A commonsense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question." Fred Hoyle
@veganconservative1109
@veganconservative1109 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 There was no monkeying. There was intelligent designing by a Master Creator. Very elegant work, too.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
@@veganconservative1109 I don't think Hoyle's quote should be taken too literally.
@mikecanfield8541
@mikecanfield8541 2 месяца назад
Even if every point made in every EU (Thunderbolts Project, plasma physics) apologetic video and publication is true and accurate, putting others on the defensive for their dogmas and areas of intensive committed study is hardly the path to effective progress. Calling educated people idiots is dangerous ground indeed, no matter how frustratingly slowly the wheels of change turn. Let’s keep this very promising field of study positive, please!
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
They chose to put ideology before science. That is idiotic, and they deserve to be called out for it. It's fraud, as much as anything.
@jameslay1489
@jameslay1489 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 Thunderbolts is about ideology before science.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Given the misrepresentation that the EU suffers regularly, not to mention the revisionism on platforms like Wikipedia, you have to understand that we are in a battle against many who are not predisposed to reason and debate.
@wyattearp1928
@wyattearp1928 2 месяца назад
Mathamagicians😅lmao
@SciD1
@SciD1 2 месяца назад
Why do you always talk about a "gravity universe" like gravity was something mainstream? What do you think gravity is? Electricity, magnetism, gravity, light, all come from the same thing. Wanna see what gravity is? The following is a pretty good hint: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ky7wIj1aeOo.html By the way, no, galactic jets are NOT electric currents. They are JETS, meaning an ejection from the central object, the plasmoid. The observed spin is caused by the central object's rotation. The jets end up as a gas cloud for a reason. They simply lose momentum at a distance, just like water coming out of a hose. Plasmoids are plasma magnetic entities. The pressure in the very center his so great, that it compresses anything in the center enough to release the jets.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
Is that a fact, or your opinion?
@CC_70
@CC_70 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 His opinion.
@SciD1
@SciD1 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 what don't you agree on?
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
@@SciD1 Well, I don't believe that gravity results from or creates the curvature of space-time. That's merely a mathematical abstraction and a variation on epicycles. I suspect that g somehow relates to EM, but then we are still left with the question of what is behind EM.
@SciD1
@SciD1 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 the Aether and fluid dynamics.
@asiseeit...6915
@asiseeit...6915 2 месяца назад
And, BTW, dark energy IS gravity - they simply can't find it for all the same stupid reasons they can't figure out gravity..
@timothy8426
@timothy8426 2 месяца назад
Electricity is rapid heat exchanging through mass as renewable energy exchanging heat singularities through grounding currents into a greater magnetic field flow. The electric cord is warm from heat absorption as heat passes through all masses in its path surrounding atmospheres and all mass. When internal magnetic fields grounding currents are overwhelmed by heat, they disolve as released heat energy as fire or molten masses. Liquidity infinity to illusionary solidity of liquidity infinity. Heat is the lifeblood of everything. Currents grounding in equalization to incoming renewable heat energy and outgoing heat energy currents grounding bonding force of pressure known as weight within a greater internal magnetic field like the earth's internal magnetic field. Lightning is rapid heat loss as burning through atmospheres gasses, releasing heat singularities as disolving internal magnetic fields. Magnets show the bonding force of pressure as currents grounding themselves through the core or nucleus as magnetism. Light is only present in resistance to mass. Quantum Internal magnetic fields grounding currents through all masses in its path as friction of spark electrons lighting up surrounding atmospheres and heat refraction of light is transference through atmospheres and space. Lightning strikes atmospheres as sparks of electrons strike singularities out of mass as friction electrons lighting up quantumized. Theoretically factual probability that works with quantum physics without gravity. Space itself is a weak external magnetic field flowing outward force of pressure momentum velocity at maximum distance traveling momentum into least repulsion to and from cold repulsion to heat propulsion from cold repulsion momentum. Normal space filled with dark heat energy outside of entanglement of mass. Mass neutralizes repulsion within it as occupational space itself as an outward force of pressure. Hydrogen has the strongest internal magnetic field grounding currents back into itself as mass. As mass expands its internal magnetic fields grounding currents into itself weakens as distance traveling increases and force of pressure decreases. Equalization of force of pressure grounding currents and distance traveling cycling circulation patterns as mass. Repulsion is always equal to the force of pressure grounding currents and repulsion within. Mass falls at the same rate because repulsion to mass expands as occupational space itself and force of currents pressure grounding is expanded. Heavier objects have higher current grounding as impaction. Impact with outward force of pressure solidity of illusionary solidity of liquidity infinity has greater impact.
@fredfarquar8301
@fredfarquar8301 2 месяца назад
Did you enter a contest to see who could write the greatest amount of meaningless drivel, against Kamala Harris and AOC?
@WorksopGimp
@WorksopGimp 2 месяца назад
You been listening to Ken
@neurolancer81
@neurolancer81 2 месяца назад
Ah right, so a bunch of speculations but no real repeatable data that your team actually took. As always, Thunderbolts project deflecting away from the truth. If you really wish to to be take seriously just perform a simple repeatable experiment and show that the EU actually describes something that has flummoxed gravity based cosmology. There will be no questions left at that point and you don’t have to hide behind stupid statements like “what do they have to fear?”.
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 2 месяца назад
You mean, like the "academics" do with all their testing and data for this subject? 😂 You're part of the problem. You just don't know it.
@neurolancer81
@neurolancer81 2 месяца назад
@@dextermorgan1 what do you mean? Have you ever seen paper in a reputable journal? They tell you how they got the data and they tell you how to repeat the experiment. Just do that. Just tell us how to prove plasma cosmology with a repeatable experiment. That’s it. The minimum needed for a hypothesis to be proven.
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 2 месяца назад
@@neurolancer81 The IEEE is not reputable?
@neurolancer81
@neurolancer81 2 месяца назад
@@daviddrew7852 The IEEE is very reputable but which of the thousands of publications are you talking about? Give me a citation for a paper which has a repeatable method proving plasma cosmology.
@captmark492
@captmark492 2 месяца назад
When your critique of science starts with subjectivity, opinion and poison the well fallacies, it's difficult to take the rest of your presentation seriously. I'm sure flatearthers will eat this up. Good luck.
@CC_70
@CC_70 2 месяца назад
Interesting, the pot calling the kettle black.
@captmark492
@captmark492 2 месяца назад
@@CC_70 Slinging an idiom without explanation. Must be a flerf.
@user-yr9lt7dz8k
@user-yr9lt7dz8k 2 месяца назад
Doctrine and Covenants 131:7 There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes; 8 We cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter.
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