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Idk but it sure is evidence of premeditation.

@donnaclark3246 Excellent question. This whole thing is sickening, evil.

Grandma had custody of the 2 kids and I guess she was the one that wanted a supervisor to be present when mom & the 2 kids meet.

@@alyssaalyssa2058 Isn't it the court that mandates a supervisor?

grandma and veronica decided who they wanted, who ever was chosen to go the party they wanted them pay for the supervision!

Sadly those women should have never been going there without armed males! because everyone knew what/who they were dealing with. Why take such a chance?! Why is grandma telling anyone anything regarding this custody dispute anyway?!

Agree. They are not God's messengers. Thou shall not kill.

@@deborahpoole9710 the point of guns is that anyone can use one. They could have been armed themselves.

@@deborahpoole9710right? I didn’t get that either..why would the grandma dictate who the persons doing the supervision is and did she think the mom just wouldn’t come if that person didn’t come? I don’t get the whole point behind all of that?

There is so much more to this story...

Hopefully in protective custody somewhere. God be with her thru this.

Wow, so scary!! You were lucky! 😮

It’s true I’ve never feared for my life more than when I left my ex and during the custody process. I came out of it with PTSD but luckily a beating heart and unharmed child. These cases grip me

In Washington State we have had some horrific cases. There was the Powell case where he shoved the visit caseperson out the door, locked it, and blew up the house w him and the kids in it. And another where a man attacked a caseworker and a deputy w a machete. Some suggestions I thought were helpful....Trades should always be done at a fire Station, police station, hospital or some other public place that can be observed. Also that way if there is a problem w the child say if the child is still wearing the same clothes, dirty soaking diaper, hungry and so on it's easier to note esp if there is video footage. Also, couples need to remember to never engage negatively. Just take the children and bite your tongue...it is best to keep a tablet say in a bag where the parents can communicate and keep notes to each other about the kids. This helps esp if they cannot get along well enough to communicate. But also it can be a nice way to look back and look and how your children grew. Right down if they fell or got sick, made something, said something funny, or just did something special. Then take a picture of it every so often just in case it gets lost. If it is the place that is put in place from the beginning w the courts and it is standard then most of the time individuals do not feel like they are being signalled out. But if it's not that's when it adds to their paranoia anxiety about the switch and nothing is fair.... I did foster care for almost 10 years and it is not for the Faint of heart. 😢 it is hard and it is sad and challenging esp when parents are in drugs or have mental disorders. The littles are the ones that have the hardest time with their broken hearts and disappointments. Dont do drugs! Dont be selfish, if u read this and have a little one and need help please please reach out your little one deserve the very best version of you! Because YOU can be AMAZING!❤

Don’t insult animals!

I just hope they connect the Dad to this so those kids don't have to be around that atmosphere and those people. If innocent and proven fit to father would be great. But really he came from that EVIL WOMAN so how much is in him.

@@peggybentley9395 I thought there was a news report that stated that he was in jail, had checkered past in drugs and abuse? 🤔

Wait. Maybe I missed it. Why are the children not with Veronica, their Mom? Why was the EVIL grandma granted custody?

@@aliciamangubat2328The evil granny accused Veronica’s brother of abusing the kids. Which was probably untrue. She’s just one of those people who think they are better than others & “holier than thou”.😡

All about control. People are so scary... You never know who anyone is on the inside. Their maniacal issues, be it control or jealousy, what have you. The percentage of people that would go this far if they're simply triggered in the wrong way would probably shock us all.

Now grandma is going to prison for life

This is so true. Watch them for a while around children.

​@@peggybentley9395And women....

Say it again for the ones in the back.

Just wrong to keep the Mother away from her children. Granny was brainwashing these children. No telling how many murders she has committed ?Even threatened to murder her own Son if he didn't go along with her. He didn't do what she wanted, so she put him in re-hab. Wonder if granny was doing Meth... So horrific....

​@@gloriaarmstrong999you were golden until that meth comment. Thar nixed the validation of your comment.

​​@@JK-lp6uw Thought I erased that part. Was in poor taste on my part. I'm not gonna put the UTube person out there. I am unable to find it. So unable to delete..

I no. That abandoned gas station.looked like something out of a horror movie. A Jim dandy spot for a stick up. Every crumb of this story is crazier than the last. Very sad and tragic. Those children lost everything.

I don't know, but WHY the mom & the sup agreed to meet there to begin with?? I would have said I won't be meeting there. Very strange! I wonder if the 5th person was the one that made the arrangements to meet there?? I read somewhere that the kids father was the one that was originally supposed to bringing the kids and the following day he was supposed to go to rehab. DON'T know if that was true, but since there is a 5th person, perhaps somebody should check into it.

I live in the SW Kansas and its not the middle of nowhere to some of us. Its just halfway ish between one location and another.

@@diamondsaphire3444 You would have to admit though that there's probably not a lot of people around that area, would that be correct?

​​​😂 you think the alleged 5th person made the meeting place arrangements?? I can't believe the junk people say. All your bogus crap does nothing but cause trouble and more bogus stories. Get a grip . He couldn't have been the one to bring the kids to the meet up location as he was in jail! He was court order to go to rehab immediately upon his release from jail. Duh

Ditto. I'm wondering if she has a GoFundMe set up to help her as she moves forward without parental support.

My first thought.

From what I heard from another source, they have put her in a safehouse. Such a tragedy for her too! The male is apparently not her biological father. Hopefully she has a dad out there or other family that cares!

Another Sheri Brooks too. 🖤 Re: Vera Jo🙏🕊️💔

First time I saw footage I thought that.

When we’re young, we too often make stupid mistakes. Like falling for a “bad boys”. I did. Took his abuse for 8 years then finally got freedom for myself & my daughter. Unfortunately I had to move out of state. But I’ve been back in good ole Oklahoma” for many years.

Why did the Court order *supervised* visits for her? What was going on?

Send prayers for CW she has no idea what information she had and how important they were

Exactly, how the hell and WHO the heck gave this lunatic custody of children???

​@gunillaadams9434 A judge, And the grandmother also threatened the judge SMDH

Yes it was said the loonies were already on a police watchlist.

On police watchlist. Yet given custody of these two children?!

@deborahpoole9710 No doubt! Like to see someone make sense of that! SMDH

How do you know!?!?!?!?

​@@Aintright890Share all evidence you've gathered that led you to such a vigorous refutation of OP's opinion.

@@Aintright890 these four individuals are indicted. Sure, right now it's only allegation. But remember, they have the bodies. Are you saying the indictment is false?

@@Aintright890What? JC

Yes, why was custody given to the evil family?

Especially with a cult involvement

So it's all the judges fault?

@@JK-lp6uw well….no one died on moms watch……ever. Did you see who the judge thinks is a good caretaker for the children? Did you note the father in rehab and jail? Who made the decision to place these children where they were?

​@@JK-lp6uwThere's an abundance of repugnant judges. Can you blame anyone for blaming the judge?

No, she didn't. She fabricated junk. I thought at one time she was a good reporter. Not anymore. She juices up the story line with junk!! The part about the clip in Jillians purse for example, then how she claimed "no gun". She's stirring pot worse than the ding dongs that make absurd comments. It's no wonder society has become a bunch of raving lunatics. With the bogus, jacked up stories that the FAKE NEWS throws out there!! It's all by design folks. The media is pure poison. Jillian was no novice to supervision of court appointed custody visits, damn straight she carried a pistol, she was stupid if she didn't, especially with the shaded history of the family who had the children. Those 2 women were caught off gaurd, they took the pistol when they ambushed the gals. It's not rocket science. This reporter is a joke!

Furthermore, Jillian was no novice when it comes to court appointed supervision in custody cases. Damn straight she was packing a pistol. She was a fool if she didn't. That's common sense. It's obvious the gals were caught off gaurd when the crazies ambushed them, probably scared the heck out of them , more than likely she didn't have the clip in the gun , crazies pulled a gun on them first and took her gun from her. Unfortunate as it is. She should have had it ready to go and should have started blazing them as soon as she saw there was more than one person and no kids. They were doomed from drop . At least she may have hit or killed one of them . I don't see how they could have escaped from this. Recovery was not possible as they were overpowered by them. It's a sad ordeal. But they never had a chance. Grandma and her goons made sure of that. One can only imagine the terror the 2 women felt. God rest their soul. The only up side, if there is one, is that they were taken quick and didn't suffer more than they had to. It appears that may have been the case due to the blood, glasses being found at the car location. I'm certain the goons didn't want to draw any attention from the struggle, and got away from the car in mere minutes concealing the 2 women which meant they were already deceased before they left the location. 😢

Lots of people lied and magnified issues the mother had that could’ve been solved with support.

​@@kathrynwitte3398Indeed. Even a Guardian Ad Litem can't be trusted.

It probably will be. Oklahoma carries the death penalty and are not afraid to use it.

Misfits Meth.

Not sure if true. The Mom moved out of state and did not notify the courts

“The breathtaking climax” phrase is sickening. Try a little restraint in the sensationalism. Sounds cheap. Pull up a chair and get comfy is really stupid too. Think about what you are saying and how you say it.

Because she wasn't there...😅

Oklahoma Children’s Services foster care until age 18 until and after their father tries to gain custody and raise them for a few months. They’ll get the father “Wrangler” for conspiracy in a year or two and he’ll go away for 20-50.

​@@kathrynwitte3398stop it. You don't know that!! 😂

@@kathrynwitte3398 Next of kin

@@twinmama yes, I’m very familiar but unless either of the parents has siblings that transfer is highly unlikely or they would have been placed there already. The fact that the previous best option was a murderous MIL with a criminal record, documented drug use and very sketchy companions, “next of kin” is not looking good. Frequently “next of kin” can be overruled in favor of the county and unless those “next of kin” have buckets of money to hire buckets of attorneys to fight buckets of motions and rulings, they’re SOL.

@@kathrynwitte3398 yes you are right. i have fostered a lot and have adopted 4. What I have seen thats the first option is next of kin, but also a lot of times there's no family that can pass the background check. Thank you for replying.

Someone who lives in that part of the state said it's likely the exchange point was a halfway point. That should be irrelevant. For years police have told the public to use busy shopping centers or even police stations to meet fo

Keep in mind this didn’t happen at the meeting place, but on the way to it

Disagree, some kids are saved by those custody battles. Taken away from abusers, etc.

Yes I keep saying the judges and all government employees need to be held accountable in all cases! #banqualifiedimmunty

Remember all of those 4 are the towns bullies, even the Sherriff Department was wary of them.

Very bad reporting!

This is concise, facts as they get them, excellent reporting from 'them' (NewsNation) to us- that's you and me. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch. As of today, in America we still have freedoms 🇺🇸 like that!

@@donna9567 yes, I stopped watching because she added too much drama, which made the whole segment confusing. In other countries outside the USA, they do not force to watch a specific news outlet or segment. Now thanks to the internet we can watch and listen to new agencies globally, allowing more perspectives. This is just about a news anchor who starts performing rather than clearly presenting a story.

Liked the way you gave explicit details. Great reporting!!!

The T’s told the 16 y/o, it didn’t go “as planned”. Did Jilian get one 🎯 in at PG, before they overpowered her, and took her pew pew? Then took the ladies to be unalived somewhere else. Maybe he expired at the scene or during everything, so, they decided to bury him somewhere else? (Maybe that was his 🩸 at the scene, and that’s why LE said the public is not in any danger). Maybe they just haven’t located his remains yet?

@@pennylane8401 Alot to be found out for sure.

Meth.😮

Yes... 5 guns... 4 suspects in custody... what, indeed, happened to the 5th?

You know I agree