Missing or Murdered: The Disappearance of Claudia Lawrence - The Full Documentary | A True Story 

Well said 👏🏻

Agreed, In fact her genuine distress at Claudia's loss, shows what a truly great friend she was. It also gives those of us who didn't know Claudia a clear insight into the much-loved and missed person she was. That police launched open season and countless character assassinations on her in the media, with their ill-judged insinuations about her private life, is an utter disgrace. I have no idea about Claudia Lawrence's private life. I didn't know her. But I do know this: Show me a human being who would fearlessly publish their own life story in full, without leaving out some aspects and incidents they'd rather were not publicly scrutinised, and I will show you a liar! Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. May Claudia rest in peace and rise in glory.

​@@glamdolly30 yes a lovely friend ❤

Amen….

The love you have for your dear friend is beyond words. You mustn’t let circumstance beyond your control dictate your life. You are a wonderful friend.

It was him all along!

Agree but also I imagine the expat community in Cyprus can't be that huge. Somebody would have recognized her from her high profile case. Also, if she wanted to go there, why didn't she go through proper channels?

I’m interested in the Chef who said he sometimes picked her up on his way to work but he did not go down her street because they had not arranged to pick up! So he kept going past her street, and then he said something I thought was strange! He said for some reason…then I took another route “after” he passed her street! What does that mean? He then said I could have gone down her street but I didn’t and that it was a bit of monkey on his back. Has this man been fully investigated? Has his car been checked?

@@jonfomaw756 I agree that also stood out to me

100% Spot on - there's no way Claudia vanished out of the blue of her own accord, without even saying goodbye to her family and friends. She'd only fairly recently bought that lovely cottage she was so proud of. She enjoyed her job, and had everything to live for. She'd even arranged to meet her best friend in the pub the night after she vanished - and in one of her final ever phone calls she arranged to meet her Mum that weekend, to celebrate 'Mother's Day'. Claudia was violently removed from this world by a possessive, controlling man who had a sexual obsession with her. She may have had a romantic relationship with her killer past or present, and ended it. But equally she may never have returned his interest, refused to start any such sexual liaison with him, and he killed her in the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else will' scenario. Domestic murders of women by men are typically triggered by the female victim rejecting the male perpetrator, either telling him she wishes to end an existing intimate relationship with him, or not returning his interest at all. I strongly suspect Claudia Lawrence was murdered on the evening of 18th March 2009 some time after her final mobile phone activity circa 9pm, not the following morning 19th March while walking to work. The fact she totally ignored a text message from a friend sent around 9pm, never even opening it, is a huge red flag, indicating she was abducted/killed that night. I don't know any young woman who doesn't read her text messages - even if she decides not to reply! It isn't mentioned in this video, but Claudia's hair straighteners, which she always used, were also missing from her home. It seems to me she was persuaded to spend the night with her lover, and he drove her from her home address and either killed her inside his vehicle or at his home address.

Her passport was left behind it makes no sense to enter Cyprus illegally, she didn't leave England sadly

Great point and observation. My thoughts exactly. Clearly cops have not exhausted all possible avenues here. Frustrating!!!

Exactly what I thought. Whoever killed her that night then dumped her bag the next day so probably someone she knew

My thoughts too

She is no longer alive. This cold case needs to be re-opened and re-worked. It is solvable.

@@cocokel1359 Too bad they were more interested in her '' dirty laundry'' than solving the case.

JESUS IS THE WAY

Yes, I felt so sad when I heard he had died. Just tragic for her whole family.

No, Krishna is the way​@@yahswayorthehighwayarise4450

Do not make light of getting involved with someone who's already married; this is very destructive in many ways.

He seemed like a very gentle dignified man.

Poor man. His voice choked with grief. Awful for any father to bear 🥹

@@joannethomson2761 Yes, so sad.

Died not knowing where his daughter was. Heartbreaking 😢

Desperately sad for her poor father. And her poor mother lives on, and continues to suffer the loss of her beloved daughter every day. How horrific to know your child was brutally murdered, and her body callously disposed of somehow, and inevitably be haunted by images of her final, terrible moments in fear. My heart goes out to Claudia's loved ones. Murder creates many victims.

She wont sadly. Her poor father.

It's rare but there are people who have been gone longer and still eventually escaped their captor or otherwise reappeared.

That's not necessarily true. She could be overseas. I mean. How many people from China or some 3rd world country do you see daily on your cruise around the socials? I don't see any. . She could be being hidden by some traffickers or anything!!

​@hippiebits2071 that's what I'm saying! Let's keep hope alive ❤

Its nearly 15 years now, this is a bit old.

They were constantly questioned. People are scared when that happens. They worry about being charged with a crime that they didn't commit. I would be scared if that happened to me.

My thinking was just the same! Harsh words

Exactly! Pretty disgusting anyone would prioritise their own inconvenience, over a murder investigation. Claudia Lawrence was murdered at just 35 years old. Her killer is still out there, a dangerous, twisted man capable of the worst level of violence against women. People in the pub should have fallen over themselves to help police get that coward off the streets! Shame on them if they complained about multiple interviews, or were uncooperative. Her father Peter died without ever seeing justice or closure, and her mother Jean and sister Ali, and all who loved her, continue to suffer her loss. They too are victims of this heinous crime. Unless you had something to hide, why would you be hostile to the police investigation?

I think it was the way the police went about it and made them feel like they were potentially responsible and the fact they did it in public and the fact that they did it over and over

Someone there knows something imo.

Yep the poor soul went to his grave without knowing.

Her father left a legacy before passing.... "Claudia's law".

He was in the choir., sad he passed with out ever knowing… Hopefully they are reunited now ❤❤

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Yes he was.

Be strange if one man took several or more women. A serial killer 😳 😕 you just never know

Yes many murderers actually get away with it but the authorities do not draw attention to this. There is an idea of safety and that people are always caught for murder which unfortunately is not true.

Such truly good, kind, and loving people.

People in general can be toxic.

Social media in general is toxic, 'thanks' to self-entitled users bashing & insulting people they've never met---because there are no consequences.

the question is WHEN the "media" were NOT toxic.....

@@helenscott-tebb406 Like the spin that betrayers & the betrayed will spin: Betrayer: I cheated on you but it's all their fault. Betrayed: You cheated on me but it's all their fault.

Her dad passed away a couple of years ago sadly...

awwww really well maybe they with each other now on the other side @@pnklady3788

Must be tough for a dad to accept his daughter was a bit of a slapper. Poor old guy.

Some people are truly sick in the head with their comments

@@nigelwilliams9307 Grow up.

Me too, that poor lady feeling guilt and saying That confirms I'm a lousy friend 🥺, and her life would've been so much better than mine 😢😪

It's a haunting case. Based on what I've learned before, there are several men who are suspects. It must be like a weight on the family and friends to know the one who killed her could still lving in the town? One thing is clear: the 'rough' state her fellow chef noticed and the men lurking around her home are connected. One of the men she was seeing turned out to be obsessive? Or he discovered he wasnt' the ONLY one she was seeing? Notice how that man , on CCTV, made sure not to cross pathes with the other man? Was he making sure he wasn't seen there or was the other man another lover? Or the behaviour of a killer who wasn't awware of the camera - going or coming from killing her? RIP Claudia.

If someone is cheating on a spouse, it's THEIR FAULT, THEIR CHOICE.

I would bet, the married men who were seeing Claudia had been seeing other women too.....cheaters generally have multiple affairs

When you're very close to your family, talk to them daily, you are not just going to move away and not take anything or tell them

Sadly he passed away

@@3rrlia661 So sad. Tormented and restless, aching to know something til his end. I can't imagine the pain. RIP

So so sad. That man is truly broken. Even as he speaks his voice is trembling and shaking. The hurt stress and pain Proably sent him to an early death.

The man she was having the affair with. Pregnant with his child. She was going to tell the wife. He got angry. Ruin his life.

​@@dawnjeanballard2874I feel she was going to move to Greece and bring the child up there

@@dawnjeanballard2874 Exactly! This happens more often than we know.

If they ever find the body it could lead to new clues.

Someone out there must know something; somebody must know them; maybe had feelings things were not quite right or questions they would have wanted to ask or ideas as to what might have happened…

@@rhonddajohnson8240 yes, definitely. The police always hope that with time, people's loyalties change, and then those who know something, will come forward.

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It's awful poor man💔. He's at peace now

Yeah, she is so broken up inside. I hope people in her life saw this and rallied around her

Same feeling I have... it's beyond sad that she feels that way 😭 she is a true friend ... I wish we all had friends like her ❤

So do I, and she has absolutely nothing to blame herself for.

That's not true if the prime suspect for Suzy Lamplugh's murder, convicted killer and rapist John Cannan, is her murderer. Cannan is not 'walking around amongst us', he's serving a life sentence for the murder of Shirley Banks.

John Cannan prime suspect for Susie Lamplugh. Locked up thankfully for another murder. Hopefully never to be released.

Maybe not Maybe in jail Maybe gone .. If they're alive it'd be nice for their conscience to break so they can come forward 🤞🏼🙏✨️

Suzie lamplughs killer is in jail still thankfully. But I get you :-(

There is a really interesting documentary on here about her it's called 'truly criminal'

I hope she reads what you and others have written here.

Keeps returning to her two friends. Claudia would have confided in her friends. Yet no admission from either. They need to be cross examined in a court. But CPS have blocked that route. Her friends know I feel sure so who might they be covering up for.

If they truly didn’t know why she was spending time in that area then what was Claudia hiding from them . If they do know, then what are they hiding ?

The police said they found out from data from her phone that she was spending time at a different place in York so maybe she kept that secret so her friends didn’t know she was spending time there,could have been a new boyfriend. And the police said when her boss rang her late Thursday morning to see why she didn’t turn up it pinged from a mast near were she lived then it was switched off. Defo someone local🤔

I have always thought she called mum and Dad early in the evening so that they wouldn’t call her later on when she had plans.

Where did you emigrate too? My aunt & Cousins live in York, I was always there when I was younger, can always remember sadly, watching the Minster burn

@@ianpilkington2037 I remember it burning but did not see it , I moved to Portugal Ian , lived most of my life in Haxby , we had a murder there if I recall the late 90s that was shocking too , and not too far from where I lived

He smiles and laughs inappropriately when discussing Claudia.

@elspethcoogan1499 Glad I'm not the only one. Dupers delight. He gave me the chills.

He also resembles the dark clothed person in the CCTV carrying the bag who stopped short when someone walked past. 🧐

Surely they’d have checked his alibi early on. Although I did wonder when he said he took the other route that morning I couldn’t help but think, did you though? Hope they checked that. Also his mentioning she kept to herself a bit at work didn’t seem to ring true to me as others described her a little more outgoing than that

I thought same

I think the same

That is exactly what i thought...

Bingo.

That kind of totally unsubstantiated and sensationalist speculation is exactly the kind of garbage that has successfully 'trashed' Claudia's reputation! You just added to it, you hypocrite - shame on you. Her late father Peter and her mother Joan suffered and continue to suffer terribly, as a result of cruel rumours and gossip exactly like that, which only pile on the agony for her loved ones. Cut it out! At the time of her abduction and murder, Claudia Lawrence was a single woman with no attachments. She was entitled to date whoever she liked, she had made no wedding vows of fidelity. Her private life was exactly that - her private life. It's shocking that in the 21st Century females are still judged as 'virgins or whores' - when you can bet if this had been a single man in the same tragic circumstances, the media would have treated him as the victim he/Claudia was. The double standards around single females are disgusting. The appalling misogyny and character judgements that have been hurled at murder victim Claudia Lawrence since she became the victim of a heinous crime are an utter disgrace.

Agree!

If she got to 35 without falling pregnant why would she?

Yes. That's the 2nd video from this channel that loses sound at the end.

Seems like a copyright issue to do with the background music, so they have to cut it out. Sometimes they use a filter that isolates the narration, which is why it goes a little 'fuzzy' at times.

Quite a few including Andrew Gosden.

Incorrect ...She didnt simply dissappear , the police know who is responsible , they know who is lieing to them and have stated this in the media.They have made numerous arrests ... Failure to gain a conviction or obtain a confession or even persue a prosecution is extremely frustrating ..But ther are people in that community , amongst her social circle who know , and the police know they know ..

That phrase is intended to mean the victims do not choose to disappear - they disappear because someone has deliberately killed them, and successfully hidden their body.

@@Joe-rv6jr name the names then big man.

@@NathanThomas-p9n That information is freely available, and in the public domain. Google is your friend, big man.

True

BINGO! Police have formally interviewed Claudia Lawrence's killer more than once (as Google pretty much confirms). They know exactly who he is, but were unable to bring murder charges following his arrest, and had to release him through lack of evidence. Statistically speaking, Claudia was highly unlikely to have been killed by a total stranger. Even the circumstances/timeline of the crime don't support that scenario. The killer was someone who had a romantic interest in or relationship with her, which may have been over when he killed her. Abusive men frequently kill women after they end the relationship, as a violent reaction to female rejection. The fact her home was forensically clean, indicates she was not killed there but elsewhere - I suspect in a car. Her body was then disposed of. The killer had luck on his side not to have slipped up and got himself caught. I believe it's entirely possible he will be charged as time moves on, and loyalties change. An estranged wife may come forward in future with crucial information - she may even withdraw a previously given alibi for the prime suspect in Claudia's murder. I don't believe that guy has any reason to sleep soundly, his days of freedom are numbered.

​@@glamdolly30 wasn't her car getting fixed?

@@ChandlerBinge Yes Claudia's car was at a garage, that's why she planned to walk to work the next morning. I believe the killer abducted and murdered her in his vehicle.

@@glamdolly30 thanks, I misread your initial comment, do you think Claudia had been in this car before?

It was solved by someone recently..the police just refuse to take statement and prosecute.

What happened to her

​@@rebekahTee-er3rzplease elaborate

@@rebekahTee-er3rz Police have known who killed Claudia Lawrence for at least 10 years. They've interviewed him under caution multiple times. He will hopefully be charged at some point - if he doesn't die of old age first.

People talk. They talk on their deathbeds. They talk when they're drunk. They talk when they're trying to intimidate someone else by bragging or insinuating that they've done something. People talk

No you were not a rubbish friend at all x

Well said ❤

Her having lots of affairs gives a possible motive for the killer, that's the point. No one is saying she deserved to be killed because she slept around ffs, why make that up. But sleeping around and having affairs with married men could provide a motive that could help catch the killer. She could have been killed by a jealous ex lover, an ex who had become obsessed and a possible stalker or a married man who didn't want the wife finding out etc. motive is everything in a murder case.

@@pietropes1322 Who was it who claimed she slept around and had affairs with married men?

You've just demonstrated why you would be clueless as a police detective ...

Because it's an open and active case police will not make comment other than to say they have been through the records and have the (a general area) location where her phone was of the last few calls and texts from cell mast pings but will not release that information to anyone including family.

They will know the content of the text messages won't they? And who she would have messaged. I imagine this would have led to the arrests.

That would probably one of the first things they checked: her phone.

The only thing I read about her phone records was that the police said that they found out from her phone data that she was spending time in a different area of York a few weeks before she went missing , perhaps a new boyfriend that wanted to keep private. and that when her boss rang her late Thursday morning (10:30 am to see why didn’t didn’t turn up for work , it pinged from a mast near her house then it switched off at 12:30 and she didn’t open her last text from a friend in Cyprus on wed night.But this was in 2009 and she had a very old Samsung phone so I don’t think the police could get much data from it as they could today.But the police defo know more about her phone data but are keeping it private🤔 because if she went an meet her secret boyfriend who murdered her then they would see calls/texts from the person so they either know who done it but the person has power and is protected or the person was very clever and left no trace about there connection with Claudia. Maybe they planned it and picked her up walking to work 🤔

Have you watched RU-vidr ARRIN STONER's videos on this case? He's done some excellent deep dives, and studied/analysed the available security video, with fascinating insights. His original research on many infamous crimes is incredibly in-depth, and he shares everything he discovers with the relevant police forces. I believe the police know the identity of Claudia Lawrence's killer, but lack the evidence needed to bring murder charges. That could change at any time - all they need is for her body to be found, or a disgruntled ex wife to come forward with some new evidence, and they will nail him. I believe Claudia's murder will be solved - it's just a shame her father Peter, who died in February 2021, won't be here to see it.

It is not always easy to trace cars etc on cctv footage, it is not like in tv shows where they can zoom in and identify the number plate, or that it had a little sticker in the rear window!

The killer or maybe jilted lover must not have been to Claudia’s when they met up as there is no trace of him there, no tooth brush or dna or prints.perhaps they’d recently broke up hence no tooth brush....

@@janetpendlebury6808 Very true, if only security cameras were better and actually picked up vehicle registration plates - it would be a huge help to police in solving crimes like this one. It is an outrage to think that the maniac who murdered Claudia Lawrence in cold blood walks among us, having enjoyed 15 Christmases with his family as a free man. Sickening! He did it once, he could do it again. Those people out there who know he brutally ended the life of that defenceless young woman, should search their conscience and speak to police. He is a danger to females, and belongs behind bars - this is a huge public safety issue, alongside justice for the victim and her loved ones.

Loads of missing people in the UK have never been found

This episode, along with two others (Lee Boxell & Luke Durbin), are on Netflix if you want to see a better quality version.

This episode, along with two others, (Lee Boxell & Luke Durbin), are available on Netflix if you want to see a better quality version.

He passed on

Yea if u were goin ur usual route to work and u cudnt c ur work mate on route why wod u change course, she might have got a taxi or a lift to work

well.. she was working the morning shift Id say.. so she took her rack sack. what was found at home? credit card and something .. maybe she took a few dollars with her to work and that was enough.. left her personal property at home.. just going to work then returning straight home. so need to take everything to work?

Unwashed dishes, her phone and chef uniform missing. She left for work.

Definitely

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@Michael-bf1dt Thank you, Michael. It is important to recognise that the vast majority of men feel as you do. I appreciate your comment.

Problem is he is dead.

I know like wtf at 5am

it's pretty much next door if you have a car. Some distance would be a several hour drive.

Definitely. Loads of female jealousy

This episode, along with two others, (Lee Boxell & Luke Durbin), are available on Netflix if you want to see a better quality version.

....are you really that thick?

They have to mention it, it was probably one of the men that was involved in her disappearance. Blame the journalists for blazing it all over papers and beefing it up to sell more of them.

It actually does matter what people do in their private lives and what kind of person they are and/or were. Relative moralism is a slippery slope Gabrielle

Well said x

He has passed away.

My heart hurts for him, never found the truth before passing

So true,got to be on your guard. So many rotters becareful who you meet.

My life motto: trust no one.

@@same5952 absolutely 1 million percent

This episode, along with two others, (Lee Boxell & Luke Durbin), are available on Netflix if you want to see a better quality version.

It's on Netflix if that thelps. I watched it there.

The ending is well-known: she vanished. Never seen again.

You'd need your passport to fly abroad.