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Religious Conquests (1996): A report on missionary work in Albania, following the collapse of the communist regime.
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Synopsis: After ex-communist dictator Enver Hoxha banned religion in Albania, he proudly declared it the world's first atheist state. After the ousting of the Communists from power, many have begun openly practising religion again after decades of secrecy. The unique nature of Albania's relationship to religion has made it a hotbed for missionaries, who since the fall of communism have flocked to the country in the hope of converting Albanian's to their religion. However many Albanians remain sceptical of the mission work; many are fiercely attached to the religion that has been in their families and villages for centuries, and religious leaders are fearful that missionaries may upset the generally peaceful co-existence of Muslims, Catholics and Orthodox believers in the country. ABC Australia follows a group of missionaries in an Albania now free to worship whichever God they choose.
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@ganilleshi
@ganilleshi 10 лет назад
I just dont understand why you guys trying to bother with religion in Albanian. we Albanian respect all religion and dont see each other as enemy because we believe in different religion,,.....
@RUDOseil
@RUDOseil 10 лет назад
first Atheist country ever.
@alig6963
@alig6963 7 лет назад
Patrick Wayne actually Albania is 82% Muslim .
@deni6085
@deni6085 7 лет назад
Ali Ghais According to statistic, 58 percent. However no more than 5-10 percent of "Muslims" in Albania wear religious clothing, go to the mosque, read quran, pray, refuse to drink alcohol, refuse to eat pork, or even refer to God as Allah.
@kledhs2890
@kledhs2890 6 лет назад
Deni I think the percentage of muslims in Albania that pray and all that is even less than 5%.
@dobrotnik
@dobrotnik 15 лет назад
I was in Albania last summer and I was really shocked. I really didn't expect such poverty. But the people are great!! Greeting from Slovenia!
@JackB733
@JackB733 15 лет назад
This makes me sick. Religon divided Albania and caused many problems among the people in the country. Hoxha's goal was to unite ALL the people in a nation that worked for their own future, without all the old divides and fueds of the past. That is the truth. Now these god pimps are moving in like lice to recrut these people. Religon caused much harm destruction among the people of Albania. And it seems that it very well may again. The people need to work for a future not pray for one.
@leonpllumaj7340
@leonpllumaj7340 4 года назад
Ur words make every Albanian who lived under Hoxha sick. People looked like skeletons Bc of lack of food the received idiot
@lenci1982
@lenci1982 16 лет назад
if hoxha did anything good was banning religion
@ah3690
@ah3690 2 года назад
I don’t care about religion, as Muslim I respect others this only best think makes me proud been Albanian
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
So you are not circumsized, you dont celebrate Bayram with your family? It seems to me you suffer from infeirority complex... i never met an Albanian catholic who is shamed of his religion.
@xxxdieselyyy2
@xxxdieselyyy2 13 лет назад
"houses of worship destroyed"----------------->More like converted into mechanic sheds, schools ala productivity sites.
@revilore14
@revilore14 13 лет назад
the return of ignorance and prejudice!!!,Hoxha banned religion,because in one city some party members ruined a church, and , as the party is the LEADING part of social movement ,he had to avoid a policy of "running" beyond a social event.So Albania became the first country atheistic style. I quit church in 1990.And i am proud of it.
@MarcoCuauhtemocMejia
@MarcoCuauhtemocMejia 3 года назад
“500 years the Muslim Turks were in Albania and still we did not change our religion” Where there you go.
@kakarotcabage3573
@kakarotcabage3573 11 лет назад
I want to thank Journeyman Pictures for uploading this video. I am albanian and i welcome americans to Albania but i dont like that americans are comming here only to evangelize. We albanians have a perfect religions/atheist/agnostic harmony and you are going to ruin it and cause conflict. PLEASE STOP COMMING TO ALBANIA TO SPREAD EVANGELIZM,IT WILL ONLY BRING CONFLICT
@icemachine79
@icemachine79 10 лет назад
Missionaries always prey on the poorest areas. Why can't people just help each other out just for the sake of it? They always have to carry some religious or political baggage with them. It's pathetic.
@ralphlauren7393
@ralphlauren7393 3 года назад
"They always have to carry some religious or political baggage with them" Yeah that's what missionaries do you fucking moron. Ik ur comment is six years old but this is unavoidable.
@dajaSef
@dajaSef 15 лет назад
great job
@speeddemon8977
@speeddemon8977 3 года назад
btw my respect for Padre at Zef Pellumbi
@kledhs2890
@kledhs2890 6 лет назад
Albanism rules !
@mogabriel5238
@mogabriel5238 5 лет назад
Islam
@noprofitmaximierung
@noprofitmaximierung 12 лет назад
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium [19th century aspirin] of the people".- Karl Marx
@Motaro76
@Motaro76 15 лет назад
Anime I have seen in your favs!
@shkoder123
@shkoder123 14 лет назад
what kind of missionary Christians is this group?
@101logic
@101logic 14 лет назад
You too bro, keep safe!
@Rodriges1987
@Rodriges1987 15 лет назад
bravo topfutbolli..jam shum dakord me ty!!
@hansjalv
@hansjalv 13 лет назад
"Let's go tell the world about God". No, let's go tell the world about marxism-leninism; that's what is needed - now, more than ever before.
@Lenin502
@Lenin502 15 лет назад
Long live great comrade Enver Hoxha! Down with organized religion! Long live Communism!
@user-te1vk6xl9d
@user-te1vk6xl9d 3 года назад
@Sulejman The Albanian Mbyllë gojën myslimanë muti
@radurambo
@radurambo 14 лет назад
@bombaKS Do you also have atheists?
@southpark123secret
@southpark123secret 14 лет назад
why do some maps say albania is muslim ?
@ValaDrinit
@ValaDrinit 14 лет назад
@alb0zfinest "its meant to be" i got you i got you. but thats only for the religious peple :/ there's a nice quote, something along these lines " give a man a fish, you'll feed him for a day, give a man religion, he'll starve praying for the fish"
@chinesenutter
@chinesenutter 11 лет назад
I did, in fact 56.7% is Muslim, 10.03% is Catholic, 6.75% is Orthodox and 2.5% are atheist, the rest being "Other" i.e. unaffiliated. I think I know my research well enough, and this is from the Census 2011. And if you say Albanians don't care about religion then why do you say they hate one another?
@radurambo
@radurambo 14 лет назад
What is the actual religionm of Albanians from Albania? I know that the kossovars are muslims, aren't they?
@xplosivelilly
@xplosivelilly 11 лет назад
If albanians lose their islam, you will eventually be converted to christianity by the serbs and catholics, and albanian identity wud fade away. that is why albanians converted long ago in the first place; in an effort to prevent losing albanian identity.
@chinesenutter
@chinesenutter 11 лет назад
very funny, but you should remember that Albania went through decades of communism. That 80% that you say is an over-estimate, most Albanians now a days are actually atheist, be they Catholic or Muslim. I know, since I've met many of them, check the statistics as well Mr. Bosniak.
@dobrotnik
@dobrotnik 15 лет назад
Yes, Slovenija is richer
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
There is much hatred between Albanian catholics and muslims that no one talks about... most Albanians do care about religion, especialy christians. Albania is majority muslim... look at the results of the census that was done in 2011
@harisbbbbaaa
@harisbbbbaaa 13 лет назад
Ottoman empire was most religious free empire. If you take a look at other empires at that time they were forcing people to convert to Christianity. Either die or live like a Christian. Its true that muslims were privileged, but still nobody was forced to Islam because that is the important rule of Islam.
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
Are you a christian?
@xplosivelilly
@xplosivelilly 11 лет назад
damn this was more than 10 years ago...
@shkoder123
@shkoder123 15 лет назад
I am happy that Albanian have chance to know Jesus. I got converted to christianety
@ILIROOS
@ILIROOS 15 лет назад
09:45 did he say, fucked up??
@RomiosHellas
@RomiosHellas 14 лет назад
This video is wrong. The Orthodox Church is for everyone in Albania not just in Greeks.
@arditbrahimi5612
@arditbrahimi5612 11 лет назад
Albanians were not christian but orthodox catholics.. also..Albanians were not always catholic they have evolved as a whole nation for centuries.
@Kynos1
@Kynos1 11 лет назад
Hoxha's and later Ramiz Alia's rule was very brutal and I do not condone what they did to political opponents in any way, but getting religion out of the public life was not a bad thing. But, I emphasize it, the way they did it was absolutely barbaric and wrong. I mean, the communists executed people for importing religious literature and priests for baptizing children. That's just plain horrible and inexcusable. Hoxha was too much of a fanatic.
@nordicbloodal254
@nordicbloodal254 11 лет назад
wtf are you tolking about ... im catholic albanian and im proud ,, catholics protected albanian identity ,, that is te reason why serbians bombardec catholic albanian churches in siege of shkodra in 1912
@KingofMuz
@KingofMuz 14 лет назад
@xplosivelilly First they were not killed! Thats not true. Only priest and that pack (rich people) were jailed or fled. And what you say is ridiculous albania was 1944 when Hoxha came to power, the poorest country. And there was a hell of improvements. And if you want to say that anti-religious teachings make countries poor. Than you forgot that the most religios countries are the poorest. Second yourself friend on mprovements first and then on problems.
@abduljabbar9737
@abduljabbar9737 11 лет назад
Athens used to be an albanian village some years ago! Arvanites (Albanians) liberated greece from ottomans etc. Ali Pasha Tepelena ruled Greece like albanian Muhammad Ali Pasha did! Cameria, Athens, Corfu and big parts of morea were inhabited by albanians for many centuries! You are right greeks live in cities like himara, saranda etc. but much more albanians live in greece than vice versa! How many rights do albanians have in greece which is in the EU?? Its a shame than greece is in the EU!!
@ChristianMakedonec
@ChristianMakedonec 11 лет назад
13:24 He said: ''Religion is in our hearts, it cannot be bought or sold'' and ''They cant succed'' Ignorance is among all of us but that... That's worse than ignorance. The turks ruled balkan over 500 years and forced christians to join the Islamic religion. Who does that connect to what he said? Well if it cannot be sold or bought then all Albanians have a christian heart.
@ethnikhart
@ethnikhart 16 лет назад
EXACT !!!
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
Another thing is that before it was easy to know if a person is muslim or catholic for example a name like Hasan, Rexhep , Enver, Ibrahim you knew 100% that person belonged to islamic faith. A person with the name Mark , John , Joseph , Viktor you knew it he would be catholic or orthodox. Today things have changed youth and kids especially muslims have Western names , melissa , Joan , Jurgen , Stella etc etc now you dont have a clue what religion that person might be
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 6 лет назад
albokk1 you are correct with this Albanians have lost their identity and another reason is that after the fall of communism when Albanians left to go and work around Europe they changed their names so that they can “FIT IN” with society.
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
Well i dont care if youre catholic. Bosniaks and Albanians have same enemies in balkans.
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 6 лет назад
Edi Bosnic very true Islam united us that’s why we like each other that’s not the case with Christianity because Croatia and Serbia aren’t friends and hate each other
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
Nope , i am an albanian "muslim" but i have lot of catholic friends in albania nobody cares what religion you we care more if you are from the city or from villages/mountains areas or if you are from south or north albania. That is what people from albania identify with, "cultured" people from the city whether muslims or catholic or orthodox always stick together against the unruly , rude villagers who are moving into cities everyday. Qytetar=from city Katunar=village
@Bes1987
@Bes1987 16 лет назад
Albania has a rich catholic history, Skenderbeu, our national hero, is known in the Vatican as the Champion of Christ, we've had many prists, many martyrs,a catholic saint and even a Pope, Pope Clement XII.
@Ckomon
@Ckomon 15 лет назад
Maybe in some cases. But you should know that a large portion of the Communist party was made up of Christians - not Muslims. The Communists had the greatest support in Korce.
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
"Albanians in Kosovo have much more pride" For alot of different reasons , albanians there were always a minority and always threatened by christian slavs , so they kept their national identity very strong. Thats why they tend to be more nationalistic then people in albania are more religious as well but still young people there are the same in my country. They may a little more religious but they are MODERATE , they drink alcohol , dont go to mosque etc etc
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 6 лет назад
What kind of Muslim is that though going against every Islamic rule that doesn’t make them moderate ,moderate only means that they follow the basics of Islam like the 5 pillars I don’t know who told you but being moderate doesn’t mean drinking alcohol and not going mosque in fact it’s the complete opposite.
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 3 года назад
@Kenneth Kuehnle well a Muslim is he who submits his will to god , and if god says don’t do those things then we as Muslims should follow that rule. That’s the thing we’re not supposed to live for the dunya but the akhirah. The dunya is a paradise for the disbelievers but a prison for the believers and the akhirah is a paradise for the believers and a prison for the disbelievers...
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 3 года назад
@Kenneth Kuehnle that’s fine , that’s why Christianity and other religions aren’t taken seriously anymore and numbers dwindling. Gods word doesn’t change for the sake of human desires. Just goes to show the difference between Islam and the others. Goodnight to you
@freedom_5891
@freedom_5891 13 лет назад
This video is toooooo OLD. Albania has changed a lot.
@xplosivelilly
@xplosivelilly 14 лет назад
no it's not. albania was the world's first athiestic state in 1967, religious persons from all faiths were killed, jailed or fled. If that's the case why albania is so poor and one of poorest countries in europe? it shows that religion has nothing to do with it, it's just the policies of the government
@speeddemon8977
@speeddemon8977 3 года назад
Enver Hoxha did a good thing for banning religion now Albanians are orthodox, Catholic and muslim we respect all religion but real religion to Albanians is Albanisem
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
.So besides the fake curtain or the "splendor" in times of need you understand who is a trusted friend or no.
@salro99
@salro99 14 лет назад
@YourOpinion you must be so proud. have you ever thought that it helps your 'enemies' to have all the christians in one place?
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
You seem to want albania to be muslim and religious sorry but you will not find that in albania . Every year in june 1.5 million albanians go to the church of St. Anthony in the mountain of Kruja were miracles are suppose to happend and the funny part MANY of them are muslims hahah
@MH-jg6vk
@MH-jg6vk 6 лет назад
albokk1 there will come a time when Albanians will join together with the Turks and be part of the second Ottoman Empire. We Albanians have lost our identity that’s all
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
We know that Ancient Greece gave so much to the world.Still you are generalizing all the Albanian.Close with Greeks lived the Thracian etc but still didn't let nothing for the future.We also know that Egyptian civilization gave a lot to the Greeks and so on in "circle" with other cultures.Greek language was the lingua franca of the Ancient word,so the element of assimilation was present too.I can read Varnalis of the present and Sophocles of the past,being no Greek doesn't limited
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
And i will tell you in this society ,where degradation of values its present,when i can do whatever i want with the help of "money".I am proud to come from a small country,to speak four language and have the possibility to adapt whenever i want and feel good in that,cause i can be Denis the Cosmopolitan guy and Denis who understand but they don't understand him..Have a nice day.
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
me to comprehend the power of the word and be an outcast.You talked about our independence,yes was hard and painful cause one vital branch of so-called Albanian helped in 1821 the Greek nation for their independence.That is another story anyway..The split was created by religion,and still has a strong echo in the concept of who is really an Albanian.Greeks invented the mythical idea that if you were christian you are Greek and the opposite for Turks.I am a orthodox Albanian and i never
@IanHunedoara8
@IanHunedoara8 14 лет назад
@1337yalla These might be Deshmitaret E Jehovait who have been recently active in Prishtian as of late. It is only natural that Prefti Jenoulatos would take umbrage to them for they will not make inroads among Catholic or Myslemet.
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
Albanians never cared about religion compared with nations or peoples we were pagans , converted to christianity then converted to islam . Let me give an old quote which most albanians live by "dont look at mosques or churches the religion of Albanians is ALBANISM" . In bosnia were you are from you are divided by religion lines , "I am muslim i am catholic" Even if you are atheist if you have a certain name you will be "muslim or catholic" something that albania doesnt have
@maxime32
@maxime32 14 лет назад
Put aside childish ethnic and religious condemnations, replete with unholy language...and don't be provoked by it either. You should all agree that sending these half-witted missionaries with their simplistic theology but rivers of wealth to convert those whose religions were destroyed by the State is beyond distasteful. Indeed, targeting one's evangelisation towards other Christians is a violation of canon law. Of course, these kids don't know or respect canon law.
@albanianTE
@albanianTE 15 лет назад
Man.. he is greek.. thats why he looks soo.
@101logic
@101logic 14 лет назад
Actually lol you might be the decedents of the Illyrians but it has not been proven. The name Illyria was known to Greek and Roman authors. Illyria was actually a Greek word. If the Illyrians were instinct, so that means that Albania is a new nation with a different language completely different looking people towards the neighboring countries. The thing is not even the Albanians know who they are and where they come from?!
@anp4all
@anp4all 14 лет назад
I was in project Aero in 98` but certainly there was no conquest. I know this is done for fund-raising reasons anyway...
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
denied my origin.Why not?!In most of the world besides the academic circle and a hand of cultured people, few people give a damn of our Balkans "veritas:I will tell you that in the waves of the life i been dealing with a lot of people,from "cultured","great" country that have left marks in history,and they didn't have the basic concept of hospitality,altruism,honor,strong heart and trust
@revilore14
@revilore14 13 лет назад
oh no,the knights of the cross are returning,in their luggage the message of ignorance
15 лет назад
come now again and see the changes in Tirana. this material is old and not attendible.
@3wisemenproductions
@3wisemenproductions 13 лет назад
@3wisemenproductions i mean the other orthadox cleric
@albpeter
@albpeter 16 лет назад
The faith of Albanians is ALBANIANISM no religion but life in the natural logical and rational life.
@Gjon777
@Gjon777 16 лет назад
The way you speak it sounds like you have never picked up a Bible in your life.
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
@ChosenTheOnexxx Not steal part that dont belong to them,just to repare the unfair verdict of London Congress that left half of Albanian outside their country.Great Albanian its a myth,ethnic Albanian its a fact.I cant hate without a good reason,and i dont want to act innocent here,i dont like even Albanian insults toward other countries.Its natural when i see somebody that insult my country in this way to get mad.I think you have the same problem.Anyway we cant resolve nothing here.Good day
@Gjon777
@Gjon777 16 лет назад
+1 May God return the faith Paul brought to Albania in Romans 15:19
@PlanetariumVagatio
@PlanetariumVagatio 13 лет назад
rastaman need to come to albania and convert the country by giving out free weed
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
You say Albanians dont care about religion, but Catholics in Albania care... they insult Albanian Muslims all the time here in comments. You need to talk to them not me.
@salro99
@salro99 14 лет назад
i'm reading the comments, and i think this might be the award-winner for the most trolled video of all time. my god you people.....the past doesn't matter as much as the present, and the future trumps all, so why get bogged down in pointless arguements about the genetic history of Albania? no race is ethnically pure all the way down, and no nation has a monopoly on goodness, or evil. some individuals on the other hand may be wicked to the core.....
@ethnikhart
@ethnikhart 16 лет назад
Islamis ,Orthodhoxism , Catolicism and others its a forein influence for albanians .
@vasilis83
@vasilis83 14 лет назад
Albanians already know about God and faith. You Americans can help them with investments and other things. They need their daily bread, not some american-style movies or theatre.
@ganilleshi
@ganilleshi 13 лет назад
lbanians are not Arabs. The majority converted to Islam relatively recently under Turkish Ottoman rule, and Albanian culture was first solidly Catholic. We Albanians,descendants of the Illyrians, are Catholics from the time of the Apostles Without Catholicism there would be no Albanian people, language, culture, or traditions Albanians consider Christianity their patrimony, their spiritual and cultural inheritance. Albanian people are not very religious.
@101logic
@101logic 14 лет назад
No because I have studied this already in History class in college so this news is old to me and 100% I know im right! Come back when you have proof that your nation has history. Thank you and good bye man!
@belamiable
@belamiable 14 лет назад
@ChosenTheOnexxx The only reason that im replying this time,its the need of correction in your "hate language".First a slave or a passive nation could'n keep their language an have big positions in Otoman empire.I hate them for a lot o reason,but at least, a country with few million people stood strong,and apart the formal change of the religion,they did pretty well.We have the Romanian people that for a short amount of times,lost their Dacian language for a mix of vulgar latin.
@RecitimHumeid
@RecitimHumeid 13 лет назад
SubhanAllah there is worthy of worship only one god without any partners and that is Allah..And i bear witness that muhammad may he rest in peace is the messenger of Allah !!! Im verry happy and greatfull that allah has shown me and many other albanian the light of the true way and path .. SubhanAllah islam worl best religion.. ! May allah guide jou all inch allah !
@1ngatirana
@1ngatirana 14 лет назад
...no one will come to Albania to really help Albanians. The race is to convert as many people as possible. It goes for everyone that with a smile or a proffessional handshake pretends to profess the word of God, Be it The Christian Orthodox figures, be it the Imams, the Evangelists, Catholics, Menonites, the list goes on and on. Please look at the hands of religious figures! Do they have the hands of a hard working man, even though they preach that work is honorable?
@bradleiby
@bradleiby 16 лет назад
its sad
@ILLYRIAN11
@ILLYRIAN11 16 лет назад
relgion is a set of rules with one must follow in life to go the so called heaven, thats all it is!!!
@xplosivelilly
@xplosivelilly 12 лет назад
@dardanoilir you can be a proud muslim or catholic, you just have to tolerate other pple beliefs :)
@pcbiotic
@pcbiotic 15 лет назад
lesh lesh.. kush mutin i ve keto video lol
@MusicOfEpirus
@MusicOfEpirus 16 лет назад
lol... please don't pollute our muddy land and hay stacks!
@Alcetes
@Alcetes 15 лет назад
In this film has been shown many religious groups within only one seems like fundamentalists the evangelicals with their helicopter.
@iviwest
@iviwest 15 лет назад
go now to tirana its a cool city now :)
@shkoder123
@shkoder123 14 лет назад
I don't understand why Albanian are Muslims? at first Albanian was Pagans, than Christians, and after Turks occupied Albania and the neighbor countries, for 500 years, they killed Albanian who refused to become Muslims, because the whole wrold, we know Albanian history,
@birobiro889
@birobiro889 13 лет назад
@dardanoilir me qart se kaq , te njejten gje doja te shprehja
@labeate
@labeate 15 лет назад
nyalba cili a problemi jot me "kosovart"?...
@gamezoone
@gamezoone 15 лет назад
ONE SOLUTION! REVOLUTION
@nordicbloodal254
@nordicbloodal254 11 лет назад
where I speak for Bosnians I understand Serbian Muslim,,, if we are all yes why you don't let Albanian to came there without a visa ,, even in Serbia I can go ,, why Bosnia don't recognize Kosovo ?
@albokk1
@albokk1 11 лет назад
Once more , i am only "muslim" by name Thats it , i dont celebrate bayram or go to the mosque . Same goes with all the people i know who are "muslim" as well. "It seems to me you suffer from infeirority complex" LOL i have illyrian Blood proud to Albanian just because me family converted 200 years ago to escape taxes doesnt make me muslim. I am ALBANIAN , "i never met an Albanian catholic who is shamed of his religion" I know albanian catholics who are Atheist so what .
@pierpaolodeiulis7783
@pierpaolodeiulis7783 3 года назад
Jackals
@IC1101
@IC1101 11 лет назад
and since youre a christian and tolerant you woudnt mind seeing muslim preachers coming to albania right? hypocrite
@gianni9197
@gianni9197 15 лет назад
hi thats a shock whats the meaning of this video publishing. thats nonsence one. the albanian relegions is only one albaniaself. we may are very poor but in relegions field we are from oldest nations in the world never 4get than paliself visit and proclaim the cristianbelives in iliria and 300 year p.c was theConstadin who established the church 4 first time the today cristendom is his masterpeace of him of course ,the firt bisantin empire in constandinopolis he was alb. mother Teresa great
@101logic
@101logic 14 лет назад
Its a fact. period!
@ilesekulov
@ilesekulov 14 лет назад
@Nationalist1912 hahahahahah don't make me laugh for Constantine and Justinian
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