Mitchuation | The Steve Dangle Podcast 

Three things are certain in life....death, taxes, and SDPN recording before news breaks.

Keefe just got hired by the devils 😭😂

of course this comes out right as Keefe gets hired

Adam to be so sure Marner won't screw the Leafs is so wild after seeing how his last contract negotiations went

It wouldn’t be an SDP episode if big news breaks after they finish the podcast episode 😂 Keefe to the devils

Steve Dangle asking for the trade a year ago: "Trade one of them and lose the deal, but we need change" Steve now that a trade seems imminent: "If we trade Mitch for Konecny we better get 5 other assets and they better be good!"

BACK TO BACK SDPN DAYS BABY!!!!!

Jesse & Adam really speaking out both sides of their mouths when discussing scratching Matthews & Marner at the cost of a regular season win, after drumming on incessantly after the Game 7 loss about picking up more regular season wins to win the division and play a weaker opponent in round 1. Those two opinions contradict each other.

Perfectly timed podcast episode 🎉

Re Marner convo: Marner’s cap hit is 10.9 and then he’s a UFA. I don’t think he will fetch as much in a trade as people seem to think especially if zero $ is retained.

My prediction is Mitch won’t get traded at all 😂. Berube will say “I can fix him”

The Dallas defenseman everyone talked about that one summer was Julius Honka

Mike Sullivan USA head coach not Canada

Keefe vs Dubas in the Metro. Wild.

As a Vegas fan all vegas/Marner trade proposals begin and end with we have no room to pay for Marchessault yet supposedly can fit in Marner, especially with the amount of depth we are about to lose in free agency. I'll be nice and say the trade package that Jessie presented is..... not desirable, We would not have a 3rd defensive pair or 4th line (3rd line might even be sus) and a ton of our top guys are old/injury prone (stone/pietro/eichels missed time/hertl who knows). This isn't even getting into Marners playoff inadequacy, I think when Marner gets traded it will be to some fringe playoff team that's trying to get over the hump like a Detroit. Someone is going to give Marchy 9 mil this offseason and it wont be vegas it doesn't fit the m.o. of the front office or sadly make sense. They will let him walk to resign 1 or 2 of stephenson/carrier/amadio and try and extend theo/logan thompson in July because as mentioned in the podcast theo/hague/kolesar are all UFA next season and so are both goalies they need to keep cap open to prepare for this not lock in 10+ for 8 years on another forward it just turns us into an older version of the leafs.

I don't think the golden knights would even do marner for theodore straightup. Theodore had almost a point a game last year even though he was injured, and is a rightshot number 1-1.5 d. Marner is an arguably overpaid play driving high scoring winger with an NMC that the entire league knows is being shopped on an expiring deal. You are getting max 75 cents on the dollar, especially from a team like Vegas. Look at the return for Hanifin. Start there and move up because Marner is a better player, but don't move that far up

These trades are pipe dreams

Man, it's always funny to hear fans talk about trades. If you guys are expecting this type of a return when Mitch has the ultimate say on where he goes, you're going to be massively disappointed. First off, if Marner blocks a trade, the Leafs aren't going to sit him until December or play him on the 4th line. Give me a break. Second, why would any NHL team give up the farm to get a guy that you are so blatantly desperate to get rid of? You think other teams aren't going to know the spot that the Leafs are in? Of course they know, and they won't overpay. The teams that would overpay, Utah, Seattle, Winnipeg, LA, Marner's not waiving to go to those types of teams, in my opinion. The point Adam made should be the mentality of Leafs fans, if you trade Marner, the most important thing you'll get back is cap space to actively re-tool the team in the right way. I don't see a team that Mitch would be willing to waive for that will be sending you back anything massive. What I think happens is Mitch ends up blocking some trades from Utah and San Jose type teams, then the Leafs will be forced to decide whether to roll with him or to take less value on a trade from a team that Marner is willing to go to.

You guys are high on something if you think Shea Theodore is going to Toronto for Marner 🤣🤣🤣

Mitch Marner is so good when we are looking to trade him 😂😂

Adam: the preds getting marner makes no sense, they need a goal scorer Also Adam: islanders makes sense…they have no finishers but…. What lol!?! I think both teams would. Thing is I don’t think the islanders could possibly give us what we need other than cap space and draft picks. People are dreaming if they think Dobson would be available

I know Adam is being sarcastic.. but I just wanna make sure he realizes that 90% of his "scenarios" involve taking in 7m+ in cap from trading out Marner (10.9m) and then signing 2-3 players at 5m+ each... Not entirely sure how you fit that all under the cap XD

Ironically, if Keefe had benched Marner or Matthews when they weren't going, all the other guys would fall in line and step up. Happened in San Antonio with Coach Pop and Tim Duncan. He would get onto his best player/Hall of Famer. All the other players saw that Duncan wasn't immune.

Thanks for making me apart of your guy’s podcast that was a exciting surprise!

Devils about to fork the Leafs

The Hockey Gods look at the New Jersey Devils, raise an eyebrow and smile at one another.

To me, LA Kings seem like an obvious fit for Marner. They want & need high end players and they have plenty of depth but lack the high end. Jim Hillier is familiar with Marner too. Something like Moore and getting a high end D prospect in Brandt Clarke could be the way to go. Acquiring established high end defensemen are impossible. You have to find one before the breakout like Minny did in the Fiala trade by getting Faber.

Also I’m gonna need the boys to learn and put respect on the name of pending UFA defenseman Matt Roy. He’s arguably the best defensive defenseman on the market (yes even better than Pesce). He’s big, a right shot, physical, and is elite defensively. He’d be the perfect Rielly partner.

"I'ma give Noah Gregor your minutes, no you're not, and if you are that's why we're gonna lose." That mindset is exactly why a Canadian team hasn't won a cup in 31 years.

these guys and hypothetical trades are one of the funniest thing on youtube. They always have this belief that people will overpay toronto for trades.

keefe to the devils lmfao. i’m fully expecting the devils to beat the leafs in 6 games in the first round because the “hockey gods” hate toronto.

Tie Domi once autographed a cheque for my grandmother at a Longos😂

Brother just missed the Keefe news😂 EVERY TIME!

Going way back, my extended family grew up next door to the Maloneys. Ran into Dan Maloney many years after he had retired in a pub. Thought I'd say hello.... Before I was able to explain who I was, I got the "look." Like Steve I thought "well it's been a good run, guess this is it." Once I explained who I was, he was very friendly, but for a moment I was preparing to meet my maker.....RIP Dan.

Jesse has now got my hopes up for a Marner Theadore trade package

For wrestling fans enforcers look at you like Haku, Darcy Tucker looks at you like Brian Pillman.

Fuller

YES! Got Adam Wylde working the Monaco Grand Prix.

1:25:26 once we traded for faulk and signed him. I knew Petro was gone. And i still hate that move to this day and. The way the GM constructed the defense is the reason why we wanted him gone when Berube got fired

Could you guys do a save of the playoffs segment at some point? Don’t know if you guys did that at some point but thought I’d recommend it.

Král is my favorite player. I've been a fan since he was with the Spokane Chiefs in the WHL. I am super happy to see him come back to North America.

The thing about Mitch Marner is that, if you want to threaten him by putting him on the 4th line (or scratching him entirely), what's the first thing the Leafs are gonna do if they struggle? What happens if they lose their first 2-3 games of the season next year, you don't think Mitch gets a promotion? C'mon. So I mean, the viewer has a point. Mitch could just simply say he likes Toronto, doesn't want to waive his NMC, and wants to test free agency next year. That doesn't mean he WON'T waive it, but no one knows. There have been 0 credible reports about what Mitch's preference is. None. Zilch.

One of the meanest enforcer stares is that of Brian McGraten

To the shock of no one they're massively over estimating the value of mitch marner

Steve, the full sentence is "Oh no! It's Mojo Jojo!" Or, in Australian, it's "Aur naur! It's Maurjaur Jaurjaur!"

From Keefe to the Chief, Lets gooo lol

Weird to be this early. As a Blues fan I'm happy for the Leafs and the hiring of Chief.

Blues fan. We protected faulk krug and parayko, but we left tarasenko unprotected as he was at odds with the organization after his shoulder situation. Management was hoping (IMO), that seattle would take vladdy. Instead they took the younger cheaper no injury history dman vince dunn. They just signed krug and faulk, and parayko is (was) a big mobile dman and a fan favorite so it was those 3 by default that got protected.

Love the title! Lol

Always makes me laugh that you guys get owned by Boston in the play-offs, year in year out... and your fave pizza joint is Boston Pizza 🤣

I met George Laraque in a hotel lobby in Montreal. I recall him as being one of the premier enforcers in the league. He didn't have "the look" at least on the day I met him.

7:38 interesting discussion, btw Adam Berube has high cheek bones because he's first Nations (that's why his nickname is Chief lol)

The Leafs might gain a lot more by trading Marner for a bunch of picks and prospects over vets and active players, the liberated cap space is what is important here and a classic hockey deal (player vs player) limits greatly the amount of potential dance partners. Freeing the 10.9 first opens up so many opportunities in free agency and/or for multiple smaller trades later on. Hell even if the Marner trade is underwhelming the Leafs might have the last laugh as long as most of the 10.9 is freed up.

Crazy idea: Put Marner on defence

Bettmen won’t let a Canadian final happen ever as long as he is running the league

Anyone got the video of Thornton saying lay off us we're in first place?

On the discussion of Vegas and Marner. I was thinking it would be an interesting trade if VGK offered up: Daniil Chayka, Brendon Brisson, and a top 4 defensemen (or hague). Maybe toss in a mid round pick. That would help TOR get younger with some future NHL help on the blueline (right side) and Brisson a bit of a top 9 potential sniper! Thoughts? would love to hear on a future pod.

1:49 I had the same as Adam Leafs vs Oils were my final 2

Lawson Crouse A 2ND AND 3RD ROUND THIS YEAR gives the Laffs back their 2nd round pick in 2025 and frees up 6 mil in cap space for the next 3 years. Then sign Montour or Myers

Detroit will take a swing for Marner.

Penguins Fan here, if you make the Dubas Loves His Guys shirt. I totally would buy one.

It’s also very true. I personally think we won’t win the cup with reilly as our #1 d man. He isn’t Josi, makar, hedman, level etc. Reilly been here 11 years and we haven’t won with him. He isn’t 2017, 72 point mo anymore.

anddddd Sheldon Keefe is the coach of the Devils now

Steve in those shady rays looks like Colbert doing his Biden impression.

since retiring in 2021 Pekka Rinne has been the goalie coach for the Finnish U20 program. Would it be worth brining him in to work alongside or replace Curtis Stanford? Rinne is 2cm taller than Joseph Woll and 2cm shorter than Hildeby (Who will likely spend time with the leafs next season) Goailes of note that learned from Rinne in Nashville are Chris Mason and Juuse Saros.

Bo Bichette just hit a home run from the cleanup spot as i'm watching the part about them not hitting a HR from the cleanup spot lol @1:38:25

Adam doing the WCF is just insulting to the WC😂😂😂😂

13:35 "It feels oldschool" Yepp!

In order for the leafs to fix there goaltending and defence would be to trade marner in the Calgary deal I have proposed they also would need to keep knies mcmann Robertson holmberg on the team also bring up Cowan and minten that’s enough there to make 2 very cheap lines if they have any hopes of resigning domi and bertuzzi and adding at least 2 UFA defenceman

I think Tre will leave room to go after Zadorov this year from the Canucks. He was trying to trade for him at the deadline and Zadorov said he wanted to be traded to toronto before they shipped him to Vancouver

Adam is on the fricking ball about the alternate captains on the fricking leafs.

On the ref talk here: why doesn’t the NHL have ref cam footage? The IIFH shows fun and handy ref cam POV shots… 🤔

Go through cap friendly... hard to find a trade

hearing so much talk about my old coach, Shea Theodore, is pretty cool. It'll be sad to see him go, but if this trade does somehow happen, it wouldn't be the worst, especially if losing marchy is going to happen.

Bob Probert has a stare

29:54 @sdpn How is Adam so sure that 16 and 44 refused to do post game media after Game 7? Pretty sure, upper management/PR are the ones making decisions regarding on what players will be made available post game. Specifically to Mo, who I think is an incredible leader and probably the real captain of the team, I don't think he would ever refuse to media after a tough playoff, season-ending loss, if it were up to him. To me, he's one of the most accountable guys on the team and the heart and soul of this team (see Ridley Grieg incident and end of season brutally honest comments about how close they are to a cup). I'm pretty sure in almost each of the past season-ending losses, Mo is one of the guys doing post game media. I just don't know if it's fair to say these guys refused to do media after Game 7, if they never had control of making that choice in the first place.

47:00 Tavares getting all the strays.

We've got a Mitchuation...

ultimate death stare, Dave Semenko.

Great episode guys!

I had Paul Cross as my teacher lmao wow what a small world! Truly an amazing professor though!

I don't think Marner makes anything next season after his bonus is paid July 1. You don't need to retain on Marner.

I absolutely can’t wait for Treliving to give you guys your Huberdeau trade so you can be miserable too ;)

This Sunday is the biggest day of the year racing.. F1 in morning.. Indy 500 afternoon (hopefully) Nascar Evening

5:37 it'll be bittersweet, but Steve Dangle is right. Chuck with even fewer fucks to give is going to be hilarious

I like that trade thought by Jesse and here's why. I only have one year with Shea Theodore. However, Tavares comes off at the end of next year opening up 11 million dollars to try to re-sign him and Kolesar with next year. Like in the current situation I see what Steve is saying but having probably 13 million available between Tavares coming off and 2 mill more cap room, it is a good move. I mean, no way Vegas says yes to that but I would love it.

As a Finnish NHL fan (rooting ”Finnish” teams) Oilers vs Rangers is my worst nightmare. I’d hate that so much. Imagine Edmonton winning 🤮

Accountability is to the team and not to the fans or the media!!

Last time I was this early, my gf dumped me

Ernie Johnson has made it VERY clear that he can't be bought. He has pretty deep ties and a loyalty to TNT Sports and the Atlanta area (TNT's HQ is in Atlanta and also close to where he went to college at Georgia). His father, Ernie Sr., also worked for TBS for nearly 40 years as well and was treated very well by the network, which Ernie really respects. Plus, EJ also has other commitments under the TNT Sports banner. He's one of the hosts of the MLB on TBS panel and is also one of the hosts for TNT Sports' half of the package that they split w/CBS for the March Madness tournament. He's not leaving.

It has been reported in Nashville that Saros , 2 defencemen and a draft pick are being offerred for Matthews.

Your off on the penguins. It was goaltending that kept them out, the "old" guys were still superstars and they did have young guys, especially during the end run. Differential tells a big story.

If the NHL doesn't want that Dallas goal to be a goal, make the crease bigger. They made it smaller so these goals would count. The call was horrendous. You can argue on the ice its fast sure, but the review shows both skates don't go into the blue until he's pushed.

brayden yaeger (1st round pick for the pens last year) won a championship and had an amazing year with moosejaw

Marner to Seattle is interesting, but I cannot imagine Seattle - a team that couldn't score last season - moving out the only guy they have who consistently scores goals in McCann. The point of them going for Marner would be for Marner to set McCann up. A forward like Tolvanen or Bjorkstrand makes more sense. Larsson might make sense for them to move out as long as they had a plan to get a 1RD replacement.

Boys, why is nobody mentioning a Marner to Buffalo trade? ( besides the fact that he’s probably light us up every time we play the Sabres..) It works for both teams, Marner alongside Tage Thompson sounds pretty sick. In return, how does Bowen Byram+ ( high pick or maybe young high ceiling forward ) sound? Seems to me like a win/win scenario 🤷‍♂️

how has buffalo not been brought up? they have cap space, they have an abundance of defense and they need a set up guy for tage.

I have a bad feeling we're going to see a Courtnal for Kordic trade. An "old school" coach gets hired and demands a tough guy to toughen up the roster.

Maybe SDPN panel on Amazon Monday night Hockey with CJ in the cone of silence

The only thing I question about Berube is that he couldn’t squeeze any contribution out of Kyrou. I didn’t like his contract when it was signed, but I’m always looking to be wrong. Kyrou just sucked. And he wasn’t benched or moved down the lineup until the season was already pretty much lost.