We Test Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV's 38-Mile Range Claim with a Long-Range Lunch Run! Does It Pass? 

What? That's miscalculation. .. You are using only gas usage in calculation but while calculating mileage you added ev km also to wrongly calculate 100mpg... You should say 100miles per $ amount (both ev charging cost and gas cost)

​@@akhere07 While true,home electricity is vastly cheaper than gas for propulsion. So in my example, in order to go 38 miles you need to use about 18kWh of electricity. At the national US average of about 13.5 cents that would cost $2.34, or 6.2 cents a mile for that 38 miles. That same 38 miles with the 23mpg the gas Outlander gets in the city at $3.50 a gallon would be $5.76. Which means the PHEV saves you $3.42 a day, or on 6 days a week (work plus one shopping day) saves $20.52. at 50 out of 52 weeks a year that's 1026 bucks. Now comes the problem. The gas edition with AWC comes in at about 32k. The PHEV, more like 40k. That means about 8 years to pay the difference with just that much charging. Now you know why PHEVs aren't popular unless they get significant rebates. In Canada some provinces the PHEV gets 10 grand off making it the obvious choice. The only way it makes sense is if you can force other people to pay some of it for you.

Don’t be conned by the 7 seat stuff. Have you seen the legroom, or tried the headroom? It’s a marketing gimmick. It’s not quite so impressive when you consider that you can only carry very young children in that third row.

@@Vinnie101a Perfect for puppers though.

@@Snerdles : Definitely. You’ve nailed that one. David. Just not good for humans unless they’re puppy size tho. 🐶

Yep 👍

@@liquidcooled877 Yup, and you are also wasting your money especially when the fast charge rates are based on time.

I didn’t understand this either.

Because of charging network? I assume not Tesla.

I have a 2018 Cadillac CT6 2.0E plug-in and also just over 100 mpg. Also have seen 200 mpg tank of gas and 3,000 miles range!

It’s meant to be charged overnight, not fast charged.

65k miles in a year? When do you sleep? 😂

@Jethro Stuff Not Enough...that's for sure. My sister was in an accident almost a year ago on Feb 6th and has been on life support in Vancouver Washington, I live in Joshua tree so I make the 2k round trip quite frequently. Approx.15 hrs straight through and 1,012 miles one way. Had BMW I3 and loved it but not good for a road trip like this. So phev splits difference for me as I commute locally otherwise for college and work.

@@kristianmurin3696 Wow, sorry to hear that. Also, how strange is this: I live in Vancouver, WA.

@Jethro Stuff Small world! Beautiful place beside the Hayden island Bridge. Hahaha I commute from hillsboro when I'm up there so that Bridge is the bane of my existence currently. Below is my sister crash story. I share it in hope to find what caused accident. Was inconclusive Last night, Portland Fire & Rescue (PR&R) responded to a rollover accident at 10:00 pm around 3400 SW Scholls Ferry Rd. American Medical Response (AMR) arrived first on the scene and treated a female victim about 30 feet from the damaged car. When PF&R’s Truck 4 arrived, they assisted with moving the victim further from the car, which had caught fire and started to burn through the power lines above. PF&R's Water Tender 16 arrived and worked to extinguish the fire, which had burned through the power lines and started arcing on the ground near the car. Fire crews, along with AMR, were then able to assess the victim away from the dangers of the burning car, due to the bravery of two Portland citizens - Eli Bowden and Michael Hartung. Before Crews could arrive, these two young men were parked near the accident, waiting for rescue crews when the car caught fire. Without concern for their own lives, they pulled the one victim from the car and took her to a safer place away from the car so she could be treated. The victim was critically injured during the accident and was unconscious when Eli and Michael pulled her out of the burning car. Because of their courageous acts, she has a fighting chance to survive. The accident victim was quickly assessed by AMR and was entered into the Trauma System. The condition of the victim is unknown at this time. PF&R would like to thank both Eli and Michael for their bravery!

Awesome, more details please. Does yours have the 1500W AC outlets?

I live in Queenstown NZ and have just bought one that I will get in Sept. how’s your opinion of your car now? Still happy with it?

@@savannahjackson8513 Still happy with it :) I would love to drive around Queenstown - it handles so well - awesome 4WD. Down side is the cold in winter will possibly reduce your range for 3 months of the year - maybe 65km and steep hills drain the battery faster, but is an ideal Queenstown SUV (assuming you drive mostly 50-80km a day)

@@gmilne13 That’s great. Thanks for replying. Yes, I only drive about 50-60 kms a day… but occasionally we do road trips, so we wanted an ev, but didn’t want range anxiety driving around NZ

Here's my 1 year 10k miles follow up I have 63 mpg in dash since new. I've towed a trailer four times in the appalache Hills and used the roof rack 6 month. I never do more than 150 miles/day (1 time/month). It's been an awesome suv. It handles a lot better than my 2015 v6. I've change the crappy 18 in falken before the delivery. I've stayed with 235 60 18 summer and winter (studded Conti Xtreme winter). If you're on the fence, I'd say just buy it.

Not really, EA gets a bad wrap because they are the most used and largest CCS charging network in the US. Yes I agree that third party charging networks are crap compared to Tesla's super charging network that is why more Manufactures are building their own. If and when super charger open up to non Teslas I think you will see similar issues because all though the CCS plug is standard though out the US each car manufacture uses different software to charge, again I could be wrong.

@@andreiionescu205 those are for your house

@@andreiionescu205 I think there a West coast-based company, they don't do a lot of DC fast charging to my knowledge they are mostly focused on home AC charging. I think one of the chargers in Alaska that used was a flow DC charger

I agree!!

You can thank Volkswagen for Electrify America because of the diesel emissions scandal.

You’d think people with an EV channel would know basic EV stuff. But as proven daily, RU-vidrs don’t know as much as they portray.

I'm all for larger battery size and faster charging rates in PHEVs. Land Rover PHEVs have 38 kWh batteries now, for example. RAM 1500 Revolution with range extender may be considered a series PHEV, with battery capacity over 100 kWh, most likely. Great evolution and options for people like us in mountain regions where PHEV gives us the natural backup plan.

@@ThatGrizzlyGuy They're not portraying to be experts. They're just taking us along for the ride. If you're so angry with RU-vidrs, maybe you should get rid of RU-vid.

Fr this is real world testing with your every day average joes y’all need to calm down

@@ThatGrizzlyGuy Mitsubishi literally says you can fast charge this vehicle.

which means you dont need gas......which means this is the wrong choice.

Had mine for 5 years and most of the time it was town driving so always electric, but when I wanted to hitch up my 1.5t caravan and head away it was using the gas and electric combination with none of the range limitations of a pure electric. Made it a great choice for me.

Overpriced?

Definitely not overpriced. Let me know, I can get you the lowest price. 😀

So what's your point?? You installed 220v charger, why don't you say results of charging of 220v??? Or differents between charging times of 110v and 220v???

@Momcilo Pucar 120V charge time from 10% to 100% is about 7-8hrs. 220V charge time from 10% to 100% is about 2h to 2h 45min.

@@momcilopucar8749 You may want to consider something less aggressive next time, like “how have you liked the 220? What differences have you noticed? Thanks!” That’s all. Have a nice day. 😊

The outlander is just better at off road...

Chademo is also bi-directional and so can do vehicle to home and vehicle to grid.

chademo, CCS, doesn't matter, it's too expensive to pay for a fast charger on a 20 kWh battery. But the chademo does allow for V2H charging to provide emergency energy to your home if needed.

If everyone took your advice you would have Chademo to yourself!

This vehicle is made for Japan with no extra cost to provide Chademo in worldwide sold cars: it is simpler to keep it on together with AC plug rather than remove it and leave just an AC port the way most PHEVs are built.

same but 2022, bit smaller battery but in 11 months of ownership, it's been 4 fill ups.

EPA numbers are almost never right

These is a car that makes a lot of sense it most of your trips are 20-40 miles the just gas efficiency isn’t great

no, it doesn't.

@@Poxenium well, in all fairness it did 10 to 5 years ago.

@Zoltán Kárpát it does in my area, there are no fast charges and heading to our family's cottage we would get there with not much range left in the winter time. And we usually have several vehicles and we all couldn't charge once we get there. Maybe in a few more years the dc charging station drought will change and a bev would be the way to go.

@@bartz118 AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!

@Richard Joash Tan. Hahaha! Good for you.

California¿

@@jzila9900 when is the last time you you heard someone in the US refer to a provincial government?

@@jghall00 ok dickhead , Never heard of that word before until now

Why wouldn't it be... It's a PHEV, by design the gas engine will kick in to help get to speed and then shut off. That's exactly how my 4XE works, it spends about 60% of it's time in all electric and only 40% running the engine.

I think it's 230HP or so, should be no problem for a car that size. Not super fast but not underpowered.

@@whidbeyhiker4364 just thought it would be a cool video

It has 248HP and 332lb-ft, it won't struggle as much as the gas version and also instant torque.

Why are new vehicles tested,tested and tested? There’s no guessing in car production!

As a reference: Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 2 door coupe with V8 engine is almost 4200 pounds. Other Mustang GT coupes are almost 4,000 pounds. Tesla Model 3 Long Range 4 door sedan with large trunk is about 4,000 pounds. With a 350 to 400 mile range, drive for 4 or 5 hours, stop to plug in, take a piss, eat a snack or have lunch while charging to 80%. Drive an additional 3 hours and 200 miles and stop at the hotel to call it a day. How many 1,000 to 2,000 mile hurry up vacation road trips do most people take in a year?

Nothing wrong with chademo you fool

In the U.S. and Europe, correct. Chademo is still widely used in Japan. It’s unfortunate that they don’t offer a non-Japanese version with CCS, but that would add a lot of design and manufacturing cost.

If you do away with Chademo plugs just imagine how many 350kW CCS units will be clogged up with slow charging PHEVs using them. I have recently seen 2 Land Rover PHEV owners being berated by Tesla owners (we have no superchargers in this part of Scotland so Tesla owners have to use the local 50kW DCFC) for plugging in their 50kW capable cars that take less time to charge than a Tesla a 50kW unit due to the LR’s smaller battery pack. I have to declare ani Teresa - I own a Mini Cooper SE (BEV) and a diesel Land Rover Defender- before you ask the price of the Defender PHEV is ludicrously high here in the U.K. - it costs me less to own a BEV and a diesel 2020 Defender than to buy the Defender PHEV.

Not me. A PHEV with a DC charge port is pure GENIUS, AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!

@@RichardJoashTan okay my reasoning why a DC fast charge is stupid on a plug-in hybrid, if you just want to run on battery only for longer trips why not just buy an EV. With a plug-in hybrid with a DC fast-charge all you're doing is carrying around an extra drivetrain. I wouldn't buy one

@@chrishansel9324 better than a huge battery fool

AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!

@@RichardJoashTan I can’t wait to get mine! I would high five you if I could!

Around the world they still sell good

Evo X: hold my beer.

At that point, would it be cheaper to just drive it as HEV and skip the charger?

The battery is only 20kw with EA charge $0.41 per kWh, max still less than $10

@@amirdjohan432 Still high for EV driving range under 40 miles. HEV would only use 1 gal. of gas for $3

@@ThisGuyRides sorry my reply for Jon Corra's comment, which he said it cost me a lot.

The new outlander phev has a heat pump, like the rav4 prime. So cabin heat is from the battery. Unlike the hyundai/kia offerings which require the engine to run for heat.

Then you have a HYBRID which is not an EV.

I have one also in Sydney Australia the highest trim Exceed Tourer. I agree all your points and also buyer's regret.

What is real leather? Do you use 3rd row? Btw, is it worth the pay extra CAD9000 for phev if my driving is very less and mainly happens over weekend?

At one time it was best selling PHEV.

Or, if they really want to save money, they can buy live animals and slaughter the meat themselves. So You see, sometimes “thoughtful” suggestions don’t have a practical application to the audience.

AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!

@@LukeEdward I was not aware you were the spokeswoman for the audience, my bad. As far as practicality goes, your cute little outfit doesn't look like anything I wear at the ranch, perhaps you could give some helpful tips to the city folks about slaughtering and butchering the animals that you eat. As to my financial comment, It's been proven time and time again that a healthy lifestyle leads to lower health costs as we age. I'll use myself as an example, worked 13 days in a row outside, 2 separate jobs, 6ft 4in at 213 lbs and 70 years old.

I came to say the same thing. This car will NOT charge at 50kW. And EVERY EV slows down drastically at 80% on a fast charger. In addition, you're driving in 33F temp, so unless you turn the interior heat completely off, you're going to run the heat pump to keep the cabin warm. There's no way to get full range with the heat on. You don't seem to know anything about the car you're testing. It doesn't make your review very valuable. You need to research the vehicle you're testing before you embarrass yourself like this. I am glad to see the car can perform as well as it did for the weather conditions and terrain it was driven in. 2.6 miles per kWh is pretty good for a car this size, the weather conditions, and I'm assuming you had the heat running the entire time.

Why?

@@KalleSWBeck Pretty simple reason... More opportunities to charge and get "bonus" Electric Mode driving when we happen to encounter a good charger near our destinations, even when stopping only for a smaller amount of time. L3 could be 5x faster than L2 -- even just 3x faster would be of value, to reduce charge time from 2 hours to 40 minutes hour for example. More like it! L3 chargers are available by the Clark Planetarium, for example.

Going to hardly ever use the DCFC though. Most of the time, you will just be charging at home on L2.

Not quite. As long as it has a J1772 connector alongside it.

The Outlander PHEV has both, not just the CHAdeMO.

Give it a 100 MWh battery and you can drive it anywhere

@@bigdavedayday1581 cant drive a 100 MWh battery. That is 1 million pounds.

Well, Chademo is silly in US market. But I could see situations for fast-charging a PHEV, if you arrive at your destination for a short period before returning, or if stopping for longer than just to get gas on a road trip, it would be nice to be able to top up the battery.